The unlocked version of this phone doesn't seem to be compatible with Verizon's 5g mmwave and many features like wifi calling, hd audio, and hd video calling are not available on the unlocked 5G like the original Razr that was a Verizon exclusive. Any help is appreciated. This is highly frustrating. Just don't know why these features can't at least be enabled while just using 4G LTE.
Wifi calling is unsupported by verizon on their end, mmwave is unsupported because afaik verizon is the only one that tried pushing for it. As far as hd audio I'm assuming you're talking about VoLTE which mine does perfectly fine on Verizon, you may have to call verizon and have them switch your line to LTE only as that's how my line is set up due using oneplus devices. As for video calling I'm really not sure how any of it works, I thought it gets routed through duo?
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So I've decided to jump back on HTC ship with HTC 10.
The website says "The Unlocked version is compatible with AT&T and T-Mobile".
I assume that means radio bands compatibility only? And the features like Voice over WiFi will be still t-mobile branded only?
Asking existing HTC community if that's the case for the previous models?
And are there any other cons/pros of getting t-mobile branded version vs global?
Especially looking at OS updates frequency from HTC vs T-mobile.
Almost everything works for T-Mobile. From what I gathered of what was answered. Wifi calling, and VoLTE yes. In flight and RCS is a no.
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T-mobile specific features like VoLTE and Wifi calling will be fully supported by the unlocked version on HTC.com
Source: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Unlo...rts-T-Mobiles-VoLTE-and-Wi-Fi-calling_id80185
Thank you!
These are great news! I'm glad I went with unlocked version!
I'm tired of all the t-mobile bloatware and dragging of android updates.
Yea no enhanced voice services im guessing
I wonder if HTC will have interest in adding EVS and RCS down the road. I don't see why they wouldn't...
Wow this is HUGE IMO. No more requirement to load TMOUS FW or RUU so that VoLTE and WiFi Calling work!
Does wifi calling and Volte TMobile works on the device? I'm planning on buying one soon I just wanna know
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Not on T-mobile in the US.
I've seen some people who say it does and some who say it doesnt. I have AT&T and no VoLTE, but it might not be enabled with my carrier yet (I just opened the account less than one month ago).
I have the Verizon version and I don't get wifi calling or VOLTE.
Doesn't bother me as I'm always best wifi.
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Not on T-mobile in the US.
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So VOLTE AND WIFI CALLING doesn't work at all on the unlocked version? That sucks
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Not for T-mobile. I called T-mobile and they blamed Motorola. I called Motorola and they blamed T-mobile. Maybe WiFi calling in a future update. I have my "enhanced calling via LTE" setting checked but haven't seen the VoLTE icon ever pop up. I've always had volte on my other phones. So I know it's available in my area.
VoLTE should work on T-Mobile. Both the unlocked MOTO Z and MOTO Z Play have been certified by T-Mobile. You won't see a VoLTE icon in the menu. However you can check it by making a phone call and if the phone stays on LTE you know its working. VoLTE probably will not work on the Verizon version of the phone but only on the unlocked model.
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VoLTE should work on T-Mobile. Both the unlocked MOTO Z and MOTO Z Play have been certified by T-Mobile. You won't see a VoLTE icon in the menu. However you can check it by making a phone call and if the phone stays on LTE you know its working. VoLTE probably will not work on the Verizon version of the phone but only on the unlocked model.
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What about wifi calling?
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What about wifi calling?
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Nope. No WiFi calling. I confirmed with both T-mobile and Motorola. Plus if you Google it, there's an article confirming Motorola is not supporting wifi calling on T-mobile.
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What about wifi calling?
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You would think that Motorola would see it in their interest to support wifi calling on T-Mobile. It would certainly make the MOTO Z more attractive to T-Mobile users. Other unlocked phones from Google, Samsung, Apple, and HTC support both VoLTE and wifi calling on T-Mobile. In spite of this Motorola shows no interest in supporting this.
Volte on tmobile yes no Wi-Fi caling
I am a windows 10 mobile user on AT&T, and know that the device itself has a lot to do with VoLTE being active. What on the Moto Z Play enables/provisions/or is missing for VoLTE/Enhanced LTE to function (files\binaries\etc..). VoWiFi is seperate from VoLTE I thought...correct?
I ask since I recently purchased one of these to have an Android around the house too.
HTC has T-Mobile variant on their website, but I wanted to purchase an unlocked HTC 10 instead and need a confirmation if it will support T-Mobile's features. Main things are: Band 12 and VoLTE, but if it also has WiFi Calling, then even better.
Unlocked devices usually don't support services such as Voice over LTE (VoLTE), Wi-Fi Calling, Mobile Hotspot and LTE Carrier Aggregation. Does the HTC 10 Unlocked edition support those services?
Yes, unlike other mobile phone manufacturers, HTC is proud to offer the best user experience to our customers. We support Voice Services over LTE (VoLTE), Wi-Fi Calling, Mobile Hotspot and Carrier Aggregation. Check with your service provider for details. Our HTC 10 has been built from the ground up for the North America customers and wireless networks. Some services may require the feature to be supported by your mobile operator before it will function on the HTC 10.
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HTC 10 Unlocked Band Support
LTE Bands FDD 2,3,4,5,7,12,13,17,29; 2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE - 850/900/1800/1900; 3G UMTS - 850/AWS/900/1900/2100; LTE - FDD - B28/B12/B13/B17/B29/B20/B5/B4/B3/B2/B1/B30/B7.
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Source: http://www.htc.com/us/go/htc-10-unlocked/
i have an international unlocked and was able to see tmobile band 12 when i was in area that supported it. at the time, i had loaded the US unlocked rom on it.
I purchased the unlocked version and am able to use Wi-Fi calling on T-mobile. The signal is really great too, even indoors!
It is good to know! Thank you all! Do you guys have any feedback about the device? I did read reviews and watched videos, but they usually don't cover much. Are there any issues that HTC hasn't addressed yet and that potential buyer should know about?
Having purchased mine a month ago, I love the phone. Compared to the m9 I had, this phone is amazing. Battery life is surprisingly great, runs quick, takes great pictures, and I have not had a single issue with it. Wi-Fi calling with T-Mo works well. You'll love it.
I've really enjoyed my S7 and want to upgrade to the S9. Later in the year I'll be overseas for almost a year, so I want something that will work with all Verizon bands of LTE, but also not have a firmware lock that would cause it to not work on other bands of LTE overseas. (planning to just use prepaid dataplan sim cards overseas)
I think my two options are to either get a US 'unlocked' version or wait for the 'international' version. My understanding is the primary differences between the unlocked and international version is the 2G/3G coverage for CDMA and possibly slightly different hardware. I'd rather have a phone with CDMA backwards capability, but my prime concern lacking full access to all LTE bands available wherever I am.
I'm not really interested in going any route that would require me to root the phone if there is a way to do it without.
Well the only way to get VZW compatibility is the VZW phone or a US unlocked model. So you're looking at the US Unlocked model at this point.
A listing of all the different model numbers available (per country and carrier) is available here: https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-s9-sm-g960-g965-model-number-differences/
You will probably want to get the phone that works with your primary location the most. I am not sure which countries use which frequencies for LTE in Europe; you will need to research that to see what you may be missing out on.
With my T-Mobile S7, I haven't had any issues when traveling in Europe or Asia. It connects to LTE usually.
So I just did a deep dive of that list:
It looks like the Verizon and Unlocked versions are almost identical (the unlocked US version has B46(5200) 4G TDD LTE, but I'm not sure anyone who uses it)
Looking at 4G FDD LTE it looks like a Verizon or US unlocked phone will have almost complete coverage around the world, notable gaps are B30(2300) in China/Canada/US AT&T, B32(1500) in UK and B71(600) (US Tmobile). I thought that was a bit confusing as you'd expect a US Unlocked phone to service all LTE bands available in the US yet it lacks AT&T and Tmobile bands.
So based on all that information looks like I should just get an unlocked US phone to be totally safe, and I'd likely also be fine getting a Verizon version also.
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Well the only way to get VZW compatibility is the VZW phone or a US unlocked model. So you're looking at the US Unlocked model at this point.
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So I just did a deep dive of that list:
It looks like the Verizon and Unlocked versions are almost identical (the unlocked US version has B46(5200) 4G TDD LTE, but I'm not sure anyone who uses it)
Looking at 4G FDD LTE it looks like a Verizon or US unlocked phone will have almost complete coverage around the world, notable gaps are B30(2300) in China/Canada/US AT&T, B32(1500) in UK and B71(600) (US Tmobile). I thought that was a bit confusing as you'd expect a US Unlocked phone to service all LTE bands available in the US yet it lacks AT&T and Tmobile bands.
So based on all that information looks like I should just get an unlocked US phone to be totally safe, and I'd likely also be fine getting a Verizon version also.
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So I'm new to Android but i use Verizon prepaid. Will I lose anything by going with the unlocked version or should i stick with a Verizon S9?
I don't use video calling. All i do is text and talk but I've heard that people on Verizon prepaid have issues with unlocked Android phones.
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Would Wifi Calling work with the US unlocked on verizon? I thought that required a Verizon FW to be flashed. I imagine all the other features such as voLTE / HD calling, etc to work on the US unlocked.
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Would Wifi Calling work with the US unlocked on verizon? I thought that required a Verizon FW to be flashed. I imagine all the other features such as voLTE / HD calling, etc to work on the US unlocked.
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Curious about that also
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Would Wifi Calling work with the US unlocked on verizon? I thought that required a Verizon FW to be flashed. I imagine all the other features such as voLTE / HD calling, etc to work on the US unlocked.
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Curious about that also
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I did a cursory review of the wifi-calling FAQ on their website. They don't mention anything about compatibility with Unlocked versions of phones (that I saw). I'd call tech support to ask, but I'd expect there to be a 50% chance of getting the wrong answer from the tech based on my interactions with their support.
There might be some good experience based anecdotes in the Galaxy S8 forum, if it works on an unlocked S8 its a safe bet it will work on an unlocked S9
I think I'll ask in the Verizon subreddit, it seems like they normally have really good information as well.
I'm mostly curious about the LTE TDD Band 46 (5200) - its the only band an unlocked US phone has that a Verizon phone doesn't. 5200 is in the U-NII frequency range, no cellphone service providers use it, but I wonder if it may be used for local LTE networks in the near future. The other advantage is avoiding all the verizon bloat wear, but that may be what allows the Wifi Calling to work!
All this has me thinking I might have to add the extra $80 and just buy the Verizon version. I don't get phones on contract and I've always just paid full price. (Page 2 404 error?)
Apparently the Nov/Dec Samsung s8 firmware update added an option for BYOD carrier provisioning for unlocked s8. Given the similarity, I'd imagine the same to be true for s9. Can someone who has an unlocked s8 confirm?
Well after a little more research I see that if you use Verizon prepaid you lose visual voicemail and WiFi calling even if you use a Verizon phone so there's no need in me paying extra for a Verizon S9. Unlocked it is.
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Well after a little more research I see that if you use Verizon prepaid you lose visual voicemail and WiFi calling even if you use a Verizon phone so there's no need in me paying extra for a Verizon S9. Unlocked it is.
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You might wanna check this as Verizon is starting to implement network locks on some devices as to deter thefts more
Dont know when or what devices but it was a statement Verizon made
So, you're saying the prepaid SIM might not work in an unlocked S9?
I don't think Verizon is keeping Verizon prepaid SIMS from working in unlocked phones they are just locking their phones like Sprint and AT&T still do.
I had no problems with my unlocked Pixel 2 XL that I purchased from Google and my Verizon prepaid, just no visual voicemail.
With AT&T shutting down it's 3G network in about 3 months (and t-mobile in 8 or 9) I was hoping I could get some feedback on getting AT&T's voLTE version (HD Voice) to work on the sprint and/or verizon Z2 force.
With the sprint/XT1789-03 Z2 force and an AT&T sim I do get the option for enhanced LTE services, but when calling LTE drops down to 3G for voice.
If I recall correctly when I tried to get AT&T service with voLTE on a Verizon/XT1789-01 there was no option for enhance LTE services on the stock rom (9/pie).
I did score a really nice AT&T/XT1789-04 pretty cheap, and of course it's voLTE/HD voice works fine on a AT&T sim, but I'd like to have the flexibility of using it on my other carrier branded Z2s.
Anyone else have any luck, seeing how the deadline will be here in a few months?
I appologize ahead of time if I missed this in my XDA searches, I tried to be thorough (I did find the sprint model with t-mobile hybrid flash but nothing conclusive for AT&T).
Thank you.