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I just added an EVO to my family plan and my family member picked the white EVO with Hardware Version 4. I noticed that the camera makes a click sound when you open the stock camera app and when you close the stock camera app. I thought it was a defect so I had to fight with Sprint to exchange it.
Now she is on the 2nd white EVO with hardware version 4 and it also clicks. Has anyone else experienced this or do we have another defective phone on our hands? The only reason I ask is becasue I have 2 other EVO's on my family plan that do not make a sound when the app is opened or closed. This is not to be confused with the shutter sound either.
There is no sound when opening or closing my camera app, but my EVO is hardware version 0003. I was able to make the camera click when opening and closing it by going to Menu-Settings-Sound and then selecting the "Audible Selection" (play sound when making screen selection). Yet, that same clicking sound, as indicated, is heard whenever I selected anything so I doubt you're hearing that sound when making other selections or you would have stated so. Is there a sound setting in the camera's menu setting that you can change? There isn't one with my version with the exception of silencing the shutter.
004s have different camera hardware than other EVOs, so this is most likely the culprit. My 003 doesn't make any noise (however, I'm not running Sense, so different app). Does it sound like the shutter opening and closing, like when you take a photo? I'm talking about the actual sound, not the sound from the speakers. My Evo used to make that noise when turning the "flashlight" on or off. I haven't noticed it since I've been using AOSP Roms, but it was there when I was on stock.
It is clearly a different sound than the stock shutter sound. It may just be explained by the use of different hardware on version 4. The last thing I wanted was to have a defective phone outside of the 30 day return policy.
Can anyone with hardware version 4 confirm the clicking sound when opening the stock camera application?
That click is normal for me. I've had it on HW 0002 and 0003. It happens on my other friend's Evo as well. Don't worry about it. It never caused any problems for me.
That click is completely normal, all 6 of the evo's i've had do it when opening the camera app and closing it. Its just the sound of the lens opening up and closing. It does this so the lens doesnt get fried during the day if its in bright sunlight.
when you start your phone up(around 20 seconds into the white HTC screen) you hear the shutter then too.
lol mine used to open and shut when playing angry birds
So Nokia is going to fix the " memory management " of the Lumia 900 to fix the data loss issue. I hope they also fix the following issues, and please feel free to add to it.
1. Volume control for music play back doesn't work with screen locked.
2. Camera button doesn't wake the phone every time.
3. In lower light (like 1/2 the lights off in an office) level the screen for the camera looks blue and like there is electrical interference. Like white noise on a TV, but blue.
4. Power management, when plugging into a power source it sometimes takes up to 10 seconds for it to chime and recognize its being charged. Also when it runs out of power it just shuts off, no graceful " Good Bye ". Also, it has no idea how much power is left. Will say 1 day 15 hours for a full charge, and 2 hours for 25% left.
5. The touch sensitivity is not as good as other handsets. It takes more thumb swipes to get top to bottom of home screen then it should. The screen should keep scrolling even after you remove your thumb.
6. The volume level of "1" is waaaaaay too loud. I like the max volume (30), but there needs to be something between "kind of loud" @ 1 and "mute" @ 0.
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So Nokia is going to fix the " memory management " of the Lumia 900 to fix the data loss issue. I hope they also fix the following issues, and please feel free to add to it.
1. Volume control for music play back doesn't work with screen locked.
2. Camera button doesn't wake the phone every time.
3. In lower light (like 1/2 the lights off in an office) level the screen for the camera looks blue and like there is electrical interference. Like white noise on a TV, but blue.
4. Power management, when plugging into a power source it sometimes takes up to 10 seconds for it to chime and recognize its being charged. Also when it runs out of power it just shuts off, no graceful " Good Bye ". Also, it has no idea how much power is left. Will say 1 day 15 hours for a full charge, and 2 hours for 25% left.
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It was bound to happen.
I would highly suspect the fix coming will be extremely limited to the memory managment issue. Its the only way many assume the speedy release has gotten past AT&T testing.
The other 'bugs', are only bugs if Nokia says they are. Will they be fixed? Good question. I cannot imagine seeing them next week. Maybe in a Tango or pre Apollo release.
" Memory Management " is a pretty vague reason for something not working. I can see that affecting all of the above issues.
P.S> Also At$t is planning a update to Windows phones them selves that would present another chance for Nokia to use Firmware to fix issues.
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" Memory Management " is a pretty vague reason for something not working. I can see that affecting all of the above issues.
P.S> Also At$t is planning a update to Windows phones them selves that would present another chance for Nokia to use Firmware to fix issues.
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The constraints involved in how they release this quick fix, I cetainly don't know...nor would anyone here. What you say sounds right, and I personally would love to see everyones issues resolved, do you reasonably think they will be on this fix update?
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The constraints involved in how they release this quick fix, I cetainly don't know...nor would anyone here. What you say sounds right, and I personally would love to see everyones issues resolved, do you reasonably think they will be on this fix update?
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it is very possible
Nokia is pushing an update on 4/16. Perhaps it will fix some of these things - we'll see.
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So Nokia is going to fix the " memory management " of the Lumia 900 to fix the data loss issue. I hope they also fix the following issues, and please feel free to add to it.
1. Volume control for music play back doesn't work with screen locked.
2. Camera button doesn't wake the phone every time.
3. In lower light (like 1/2 the lights off in an office) level the screen for the camera looks blue and like there is electrical interference. Like white noise on a TV, but blue.
4. Power management, when plugging into a power source it sometimes takes up to 10 seconds for it to chime and recognize its being charged. Also when it runs out of power it just shuts off, no graceful " Good Bye ". Also, it has no idea how much power is left. Will say 1 day 15 hours for a full charge, and 2 hours for 25% left.
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1. that's by design of the OS, so probably not. volume does change with screen off if using a headset with volume controls though.
2. are you holding it for a few seconds and pushing all the way in? i haven't had this issue come up personally.
3. that noise is because the camera is bumping the ISO higher to compensate for the low light, if you manually choose a lower ISO it should go away and also result in a clearer picture (but you will have to hold the phone more steady if you don't use a flash with low ISO)
4. i hope they can fix this one all other windows phones i've had have the charging chime come almost instantly after plugging in. the reason the time remaining quote is inconsistent is that it recalculates it based on actual usage, so if you use the phone heavily for a while and then check, it's going to show much less time remaining because it assumes similar usage patterns. it's the way the OS works and not something nokia can really change.
I get the feeling that Nokia, At$t, and Microsoft have a pretty tight relationship at the moment. Concessions are made, Microsoft backs down on over all updates in exchange for critical update to be expedited. Nokia pays a premium for At$t to adopt their flagship phone, At$t will let them expedite the fixes needed for the phone, and all of theirs investment to succeed.
One more issue I've noticed: The volume level of "1" is waaaaaay too loud. I like the max volume (30), but there needs to be something between "kind of loud" @ 1 and "mute" @ 0.
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1. that's by design of the OS, so probably not. volume does change with screen off if using a headset with volume controls though.
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With the other windows phones I've tried if you are listing to music with plane-jane headphones, you can turn vol up and down with the screen off. The NL900 is the first one I've had this issue with. It's an issue cause I have plane-jane headphones that don't support anything but listening to music.
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it is very possible
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I think not. I hope so. In order for these things to get included, it means they must have been working on them awhile. Heck, think about it, for them to fix this memory issue so quick, they had to be aware of it....before the device went on sale. If thats the case, you could reasonably say, they shipped defective devices...knowingly.
I'm keeping mines anyway. Best defective device I've ever had....since my last android.
I also hope they give you an option to turn off haptic feedback of the hardware capacitive buttons in case it's not an OS limitation.
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3. In lower light (like 1/2 the lights off in an office) level the screen for the camera looks blue and like there is electrical interference. Like white noise on a TV, but blue.
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I notice this very clearly too but I've come to realize that if I change the setting of "Scenes" from Auto to any other different value (except Night) this problem goes away.
My assumption is that the phone is getting the auto setting to Night mode in lower light conditions (although it should be calibrated for even lower light because night mode is not really needed for a 1/2 light situation).
Lower the ISO or change your scene mode and I think this problem will be corrected. I use the "Landscape" mode as it seems to compensate well the white balance for internal conditions.
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Looks like today majority of Europe is getting Nougat update on HTC 10.
How is update working for you, regarding bugs and stability? I'm kinda scared of updating it, since the Nougat update ruined my Oneplus 3.
just do it. its great
I actually got my new HTC 10 yesterday, and Nougat today, in the Netherlands.
So far no issues at all.
Does it have any affect on battery life?
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Does it have any affect on battery life?
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for me battery life is a little better on N
I think it's a good improvement, but I have had the occasional issue with screen touch sensitivity, for example, on page scrolling - sometimes if I scroll and hold my finger still, the page flickers up and down, and sometimes it scrolls to the start or end hyperfast. Also when using Swype, it sometimes completely misreads the initial finger movements, inserting more characters than I've passed over . These don't happen often enough to be a problem, but they didn't happen before and make me wonder if the screen sensitivity has been tweaked up a bit in some way.
Have been on N for a good 3 weeks already? Generally, the phone is performing admirably, day to day performance is faster, snappier.
However, with all the improvements being made, there are still some bugs that have yet to be quashed, mainly the in built camera app.
Right now, with the camera in Pro mode, whenever I am adjusting more than 1 variable ie; shutter speed & iso, the tap to focus refuse vehemently to work.. Also, live preview for shutter speed never goes past 3-5 seconds. In the past, when I max out the shutter speed (@16 secs) I will most definitely get a blown out image, for now, 5 seconds onwards doesnt seem to make any difference, until you actually take a shot... As a frequent user of the phone's awesome camera to take low lit shots, this is rather disastrous.
My phone is a Taiwan set, so I dunno if these issues are exclusive. Do chime in if you encounter similar problems with the camera app too!
PS: am using another photography app that does manual and RAW (manual camera) works pretty sweet!
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I think it's a good improvement, but I have had the occasional issue with screen touch sensitivity, for example, on page scrolling - sometimes if I scroll and hold my finger still, the page flickers up and down, and sometimes it scrolls to the start or end hyperfast. Also when using Swype, it sometimes completely misreads the initial finger movements, inserting more characters than I've passed over . These don't happen often enough to be a problem, but they didn't happen before and make me wonder if the screen sensitivity has been tweaked up a bit in some way.
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exactly. that page flickers up and down. Scrolling in Stock rom is not as smooth as it is in LOS rom. This issue alone makes me sad every time I use my phone. HTC why you do this. No idea if it is good in MM rom. After seeing your post.. I would downgrade to 6.0 just to see how it works.
It's good, definitely more efficient but you'll not have xposed and from what I've read the likelihood is Slim that well get it, I think it's because the base has changed so much and continues to change meaning it has to be modified greatly, this is the only thing I miss. Certain devs also haven't updated their apps. For example Kodi wasn't updated, might be now but wasn't a little while ago.
Personally I think the trade off for performance and stability is worth it.. I wouldn't go back. Plus with the pixel launcher and a decent theme the phone really flies.
So far so good
No problems here, updated on Tuesday.
It was working just fine. I was listening to YouTube while I was doing other things over a Bluetooth device. Stopped YouTube, put it in my pocket, and ate dinner. Went to walk my dog, and it wouldn't play any audio. When I went to call someone to check, I only had "Speaker" as an option along with Bluetooth. I tried my Bluetooth stack by toggling it off, and rebooting the device. When stock Android 11 came up, got at System UI error after unlock. Hoped it was a glitch and turned on Bluetooth, it reconnected, but no audio, and mic doesn't pick up volume. Turned it off, did a reboot and had the headphones turned off also. got the System UI error and it doesn't show any option for audio on call for anything but Speaker. Thought crap, did a Factory format, same. Reinstalled via ADB the same version, same issue and still had the System UI crash on unlock.
Did a wipe back down to 8.0, and I didn't verify the phone worked first, but no system UI crash. Installed 10.0, and no crash on System UI, but only had speaker. Updated to latest 11.0 with the updates, and it got the System UI errors each time. I'm rolling back to 8.0 right now to verify, but I am flummoxed. Everything else works, but I have no phone option and get system UI Crashes. When I call, it vibrates, but no audio when I pickup or when I speak into the mic (used a land line to verify). Since it is Out of Support I had been considering getting a new phone, but this was still viable until today (wish Google had released a 5XL). I'm going to go back to 8.0 and test, also going to test a ROM (not sure what would be recommended, been happy with vanilla for a while, but loved Paranoid Android way back in the day on my Samsung stupid long named Nexus powered by Sprint).
But in the event that 8.0 does work, does anyone have any ideas on how to get audio to work again on a more modern android?
Sorry for the ramble, but I'm seriously confused, and it is late.
An issue like yours, that suddenly appears and persists regardless of the version of Android installed is not a good sign. In general, if it were a firmware issue you were having it should disappear upon a clean install of Android. Thus, assuming Android 8.0 doesn't work, and I don't think it will, the only answer left from my perspective is a hardware problem.
As for wishing there was a Pixel 5 XL, the 4a with 5G would fill the bill. Its screen is larger, albeit only 60Hz, and in day-to-day use it's going to sound better than the Pixel 5. The 5 taking a page from the Sharp Aquos and vibrating the entire screen to produce sound isn't something you see every day, and there's a good reason for that.
Hello,
I am relatively new in the Samsung world. Currently, I own a S20U 5G phone, with latest Android (G988BXXU6DUB5)
I have several questions, just put them in a list not to create a lot of threads. I would be really grateful if you could share advice/your experience.
I've noticed some clicking sound when I exit my Camera app and also when I open Settings for this app inside of it. Is it ok? I bet it is somehow related to the lens.
I've also read some articles regarding the autofocus issues. Are those solved? For me it seems to work decently fine, but I am not sure what are the best settings, should I keep tracking autofocus turned of or on.
Also, I've noticed that if I do some AF test with bringing hand relatively close (20cm), and on the background there are some objects contrasting with the background, some grey squares are popping around them and focus seems to be jumping to them randomly. Did anyone notice the same thing? What are those grey squares?
The battery. My SoT is around 4.5-6hrs, on LTE mostly with some calls, a lot of FB and messenger. I've noticed that the battery likes to drop quickly from 100%. Like if after I start using it on 100%, it could drop to 97% during 10-15 minutes of active usage. Then it is going slower, in a normal pace. Is you experience similar?
Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences.
Sorry if questions seem newbie ones, I just need some advice.
1. Yes it's just the camera sensors locking AF
2. AF was vastly improved with updates, there seems to be no issue with it now
3. Grey squares are usually the camera AI trying to find faces to focus on, so anything that might look a bit like a face to the AI it will try locking onto
4. Normal for Samsung devices to lose a few % very quickly, and your SOT time is fine
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3. Grey squares are usually the camera AI trying to find faces to focus on, so anything that might look a bit like a face to the AI it will try locking onto
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Hello, thanks for your answers, it is much clearer now.
I've noticed an odd thing about this specific feature, for example, if my child is moving, it tries to lock onto face with a grey square and if I start shooting, often I get a message "this photo might be blurred" or similar, and it is indeed blurred. Maybe you know how to combat this, if possible? Maybe some specific camera settings?
jdx111 said:
Hello, thanks for your answers, it is much clearer now.
I've noticed an odd thing about this specific feature, for example, if my child is moving, it tries to lock onto face with a grey square and if I start shooting, often I get a message "this photo might be blurred" or similar, and it is indeed blurred. Maybe you know how to combat this, if possible? Maybe some specific camera settings?
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For moving subjects it's best to use Pro camera mode (Tap the "More" button under the view finder > Pro Mode
Set the shutter speed low as possible while still allowing enough light in, you can raise the ISO to get more light without increasing shutter speed (At the expense of noise depending how high you set it), that way you get a lot less blurring on the moving subject, in this case your child
The blurring occurs if the subject moves while the shutter is open collecting light, so the less time it is open, the less distance the subject will have moved, thus less blur
Works best in good light such as sunlight, then you don't need ISO too high and can drop shutter time right down while still getting good exposure
There is also a setting for Auto camera mode in the camera's main settings called "Tracking Auto-focus" which once you tap the screen to focus on a subject, regardless of where it moves to, it should remain in focus