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Pixel XL ROM/Recovery/Root Questions

I'm thinking about picking up a Pixel XL soon (currently still using a Nexus 6) and I kind of just assumed that development on the Pixels was moving fine, until I started looking into it tonight, only to find that there is still only RC versions of TWRP that sound super buggy, and Lineage doesn't even have official builds for either device because of some issue with Google Apps and the partition system on the phone.
So, this leads me to a few questions:
1) Is the TWRP RC2 build for the Pixel XL fairly stable, functional and safe to use? I only ever really do the very occasional backup/restore within TWRP and flash stuff, so as long as the basic functionality is working I'd be happy.
2) This whole two partition thing sounds like a bit of a nightmare to me and sounds like a way riskier setup. Is it easier to brick this phone than other phones that use a normal partition layout, and is it possible to recover from something like that fairly easily?
3) For anyone that uses Invisiblek's unofficial Lineage builds, do they work fine? I know it has some crashing issue when trying to record multiple 30 FPS videos in succession, but that doesn't matter to me at all really. Is it possible to simply flash the official Lineage root file on this unofficial build to have the built in root, or would I be required to use SuperSU?
4) I see people talking about vendor images, and something about the phone getting hot or having super high CPU and memory usage until they reflashed this image. What is this about?
Thanks in advance to anyone who is able to answer any of my questions!

admiralspeedy said:
I'm thinking about picking up a Pixel XL soon (currently still using a Nexus 6) and I kind of just assumed that development on the Pixels was moving fine, until I started looking into it tonight, only to find that there is still only RC versions of TWRP that sound super buggy, and Lineage doesn't even have official builds for either device because of some issue with Google Apps and the partition system on the phone.
So, this leads me to a few questions:
1) Is the TWRP RC2 build for the Pixel XL fairly stable, functional and safe to use? I only ever really do the very occasional backup/restore within TWRP and flash stuff, so as long as the basic functionality is working I'd be happy.
2) This whole two partition thing sounds like a bit of a nightmare to me and sounds like a way riskier setup. Is it easier to brick this phone than other phones that use a normal partition layout, and is it possible to recover from something like that fairly easily?
3) For anyone that uses Invisiblek's unofficial Lineage builds, do they work fine? I know it has some crashing issue when trying to record multiple 30 FPS videos in succession, but that doesn't matter to me at all really. Is it possible to simply flash the official Lineage root file on this unofficial build to have the built in root, or would I be required to use SuperSU?
4) I see people talking about vendor images, and something about the phone getting hot or having super high CPU and memory usage until they reflashed this image. What is this about?
Thanks in advance to anyone who is able to answer any of my questions!
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Hello,
I think I can answer some of your questions...
1 - TWRP is stable enough for the usual tasks. Some people seem to have issues with restoring partitions on RC2 and end up with some partitions word. Some others say they have no problems. Who's right, who's wrong, is it a particular scenario that makes this problem occurs, I don't know. I just use RC1 without issue...
Also, you are not obliged to install TWRP. You can "fastboot boot twrp.img" RC1 version, do your things and reboot. If you want to stay on stock firmware, it's a nice feature, since you won't have to reflash stock boot.img to take an OTA (Recovery is now part of the boot.img unlike older version which had a proper recovery partition).
2 - I feel you here. I felt scared as well the first time I had to deal with the beast. The only advise I can give you is: read, read and... read again. It's not so hard once you understand how it works. Also, you can still ask for some help if you are unsure, people here are really helpful!
Some users have bricked their devices and those got fixed. But as far as i remember, none that got hard bricked (I only read the Pixel XL forum since two months, so of course I may have missed some ).
3 - I'm a Pure Nexus user. Works very well, if you are looking for a stable alternative. :angel:
4 - I have never had this problem, sorry... But just take a look at this if you want to know the vendor.img is: https://plus.google.com/+JeanBaptisteQueru/posts/akHWypRNEn3
Every months with new security patch, a new vendor.img is included in the factory image or OTA.
If you install lineage OS from maybe April 2017 you'll likely have to flash N2G47E vendor.img which you can find here: https://developers.google.com/android/images inside the factory image archive.
If you install lineage OS April updates, you are fine with this vendor.img.
But in May, you'll have to flash a new vendor.img. Usually you will be notified by the ROM developer, which vendor.img is needed. Considering Google sometimes release two or three builds every months.
Hope that helps a little bit... :good:
Good luck...

Lineage OS 15.0 Dev Thread [DISCUSSION]

Figured we should have a thread set up for discussion, has anyone started work on this? Maybe we should get a hangouts group started.

When does the development starts?
I don't know the procedure of ROM development. Are devs waiting for the oreo update from HTC?

Some devs already work on Oreo aosp, but it's not that easy to get it working on the 10 so that everything works. Maybe even stock will be earlier here than custom Roms like aosp and los
Sent from my HTC 10 using XDA Labs

Don't really know about LOS but AOSP based is already here...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/development/rom-official-pure-fusion-os-oreo-t3694203/page2
P.S why is there a Dev in the Title?

Is there any news?

kingfared said:
Is there any news?
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Lineage has a whole site with news and downloads and everything: https://www.lineageos.org/
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Honestly Annoying said:
Figured we should have a thread set up for discussion, has anyone started work on this? Maybe we should get a hangouts group started.
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You can't start a "Dev thread" if you aren't a dev on the project; you can only start a "Nag thread".

Sorry for unqualified question. I know the new site but I don't know where to find dev threads. If you can help me I'll be glad.

My question is why do some older phones have LOS 15.0 and we don't yet. You'd assume the newer phones get priority. My old HTC M8 has a fully functional LOS 15.

Ndaoud360 said:
My question is why do some older phones have LOS 15.0 and we don't yet. You'd assume the newer phones get priority. My old HTC M8 has a fully functional LOS 15.
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That device still has an active developer working on it. crpalmer, the user who brought 14.X to HTC 10 seems to have moved on to newer devices.

hope it will have LOS15.1

Even though Raymon left development does this mean there are no los 15 for us?

As already stated by fagyi, once he solves all bugs on aosip 8.1 he will build los.

15.1 Running flawless albeit hot sometimes!
Ladies and Gentleman,
I have been lately at the lack of instruction that some of the devs have in their OP in regards to the kernel challenges with running back and forth between nougat and oreo. All I want for my recently required and gently used HTC 10 was a simple and pure rom that I can theme and run unhindered of bloat and unneccesary tweaks without having to gut the rom with titanium backup. With that said, in my constant frustration over the past two weeks I have been able to get Lineage os 15.1 running flawlessly on my device as of yesterday with everything working including the camera and tethering. The speaker volume is a bit low, but I can live with that.
To run this as with the other 8.0 rom you have to be on nougat kernel. IF you are already running Oreo- stock or otherwise, you will have to downgrade your kernel being s-off. Generally I don't pay for sunshine but since i got a great deal on this used phone i coughed up the $25 bucks to fix my phone after deciding I wanted to run modified oreo without having to read 1100 pages of posts.
Personally I have Sprint as a provider so I used a combination of OMJs kernel flashing instructions
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-htc-10/development/ruu-sprint-htc-10-1-24-651-3-t3379257
along with this post to downgrade effectively:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/solution-imei-signal-downgrade-oreo-8-0-t3748999
Download Rom from here:
https://www.cyanogenmods.org/forums/topic/lineageos-15-1-for-htc-10-android-8-1/
Now I tested this rom by flashing multiple times and I could not get any version of gapps to work but then i discovered a work around that will help. But before I get there let me explain everything I did. Some steps may be unnecessary depending on where you are coming from but i think nougat kernel is a must. I did not ruu after kernel flash.
1. Flash kernel using adb.
2. Boot straight into bootloader then Wipe and then fix persist per wonders never ceases post.
I had issues with going back to nougat kernel and had to type these instructions in the twrp terminal to get my persist back:
To fix : failed to mount '/persist' (invalid argument)
Type this in twrp terminal:
make_ext4fs /dev/block/bootdevice/by-name/persist
MAKE SURE YOU DO CLEAN WIPE all internal and format data. Fix ext4 after.
3. Resend twrp from adb.
4. Flash lineage Rom
5. Flash Magisk
6. Boot to Rom and install from Magisk G-apps systemless framework
This will not show up as being installed in magisk anymore after you install gapps. Gapps overwrites it somehow. But if you try to install gapps by itself, it will fail and crash when you boot to the rom.
7. Reboot to twrp and flash nano gapps.
8. clear cache, format data
9. profit!
Finger print scanner, Camera and everything is working. have not found any issues yet. Since I am kinda excited at getting back to LOS because i couldn't get it for my Bolt, i wanted to share with everyone else that fagyi's work is payoff.

heyChristo said:
Ladies and Gentleman,
I have been extremely pissed off lately at the lack of instruction that some of the devs have in their OP in regards to the kernel challenges with running back and forth between nougat and oreo. All I want for my recently required and gently used HTC 10 was a simple and pure rom that I can theme and run unhindered of bloat and unneccesary tweaks without having to gut the rom with titanium backup. With that said, in my constant frustration over the past two weeks I have been able to get Lineage os 15.1 running flawlessly on my device as of yesterday with everything working including the camera and tethering. The speaker volume is a bit low, but I can live with that.
To run this as with the other 8.0 rom you have to be on nougat kernel. IF you are already running Oreo- stock or otherwise, you will have to downgrade your kernel being s-off. Generally I don't pay for sunshine but since i got a great deal on this used phone i coughed up the $25 bucks to fix my phone after deciding I wanted to run modified oreo without having to read 1100 pages of posts.
Personally I have Sprint as a provider so I used a combination of OMJs kernel flashing instructions
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-htc-10/development/ruu-sprint-htc-10-1-24-651-3-t3379257
along with this post to downgrade effectively:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/solution-imei-signal-downgrade-oreo-8-0-t3748999
Download Rom from here:
https://www.cyanogenmods.org/forums/topic/lineageos-15-1-for-htc-10-android-8-1/
Now I tested this rom by flashing multiple times and I could not get any version of gapps to work but then i discovered a work around that will help. But before I get there let me explain everything I did. Some steps may be unnecessary depending on where you are coming from but i think nougat kernel is a must. I did not ruu after kernel flash.
1. Flash kernel using adb.
2. Boot straight into bootloader then Wipe and then fix persist per wonders never ceases post.
I had issues with going back to nougat kernel and had to type these instructions in the twrp terminal to get my persist back:
To fix : failed to mount '/persist' (invalid argument)
Type this in twrp terminal:
make_ext4fs /dev/block/bootdevice/by-name/persist
MAKE SURE YOU DO CLEAN WIPE all internal and format data. Fix ext4 after.
3. Resend twrp from adb.
4. Flash lineage Rom
5. Flash Magisk
6. Boot to Rom and install from Magisk G-apps systemless framework
This will not show up as being installed in magisk anymore after you install gapps. Gapps overwrites it somehow. But if you try to install gapps by itself, it will fail and crash when you boot to the rom.
7. Reboot to twrp and flash nano gapps.
8. clear cache, format data
9. profit!
Finger print scanner, Camera and everything is working. have not found any issues yet. Since I am kinda excited at getting back to LOS because i couldn't get it for my Bolt, i wanted to share with everyone else that fagyi's work is payoff.
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If you are so frustrated about stuff you get for free than just stay stock and stop being frustrated.......mwuhahaha funny how the world works these days......oh and by the way, you don't downgrade your kernel, you downgrade your firmware.
Cheers, have an absolutely fabulous Sunday

heyChristo said:
Ladies and Gentleman,
I have been lately at the lack of instruction that some of the devs have in their OP in regards to the kernel challenges with running back and forth between nougat and oreo. All I want for my recently required and gently used HTC 10 was a simple and pure rom that I can theme and run unhindered of bloat and unneccesary tweaks without having to gut the rom with titanium backup. With that said, in my constant frustration over the past two weeks I have been able to get Lineage os 15.1 running flawlessly on my device as of yesterday with everything working including the camera and tethering. The speaker volume is a bit low, but I can live with that.
To run this as with the other 8.0 rom you have to be on nougat kernel. IF you are already running Oreo- stock or otherwise, you will have to downgrade your kernel being s-off. Generally I don't pay for sunshine but since i got a great deal on this used phone i coughed up the $25 bucks to fix my phone after deciding I wanted to run modified oreo without having to read 1100 pages of posts.
Personally I have Sprint as a provider so I used a combination of OMJs kernel flashing instructions
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-htc-10/development/ruu-sprint-htc-10-1-24-651-3-t3379257
along with this post to downgrade effectively:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/solution-imei-signal-downgrade-oreo-8-0-t3748999
Download Rom from here:
https://www.cyanogenmods.org/forums/topic/lineageos-15-1-for-htc-10-android-8-1/
Now I tested this rom by flashing multiple times and I could not get any version of gapps to work but then i discovered a work around that will help. But before I get there let me explain everything I did. Some steps may be unnecessary depending on where you are coming from but i think nougat kernel is a must. I did not ruu after kernel flash.
1. Flash kernel using adb.
2. Boot straight into bootloader then Wipe and then fix persist per wonders never ceases post.
I had issues with going back to nougat kernel and had to type these instructions in the twrp terminal to get my persist back:
To fix : failed to mount '/persist' (invalid argument)
Type this in twrp terminal:
make_ext4fs /dev/block/bootdevice/by-name/persist
MAKE SURE YOU DO CLEAN WIPE all internal and format data. Fix ext4 after.
3. Resend twrp from adb.
4. Flash lineage Rom
5. Flash Magisk
6. Boot to Rom and install from Magisk G-apps systemless framework
This will not show up as being installed in magisk anymore after you install gapps. Gapps overwrites it somehow. But if you try to install gapps by itself, it will fail and crash when you boot to the rom.
7. Reboot to twrp and flash nano gapps.
8. clear cache, format data
9. profit!
Finger print scanner, Camera and everything is working. have not found any issues yet. Since I am kinda excited at getting back to LOS because i couldn't get it for my Bolt, i wanted to share with everyone else that fagyi's work is payoff.
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I'm kinda confused by what you said. Is that ROM for Oreo firmware or Nougat?

Musthafa-Noor said:
I'm kinda confused by what you said. Is that ROM for Oreo firmware or Nougat?
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Nougat.

heyChristo said:
Nougat.
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Maybe was wrong. Maybe was Oreo firmware. Switched to this and had to go the other one. Sometimes I just go into a flashing rage and can't rememember what happened after.

https://www.cyanogenmods.org/forums/topic/lineageos-15-1-for-htc-10-android-8-1/
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I'm using that ROM build of 15.1 on my HTC 10 (Android 8.1), and it works pretty good actually. besides a few minor issues.
Unlocked Bootloader from HTCDev, Running latest TWRP Recovery, S-On (for me at least was not needed to turn this off), Latest Magisk (which seems to pass the Safetynet check) / Busybox.
I changed the Kernel afterwards to "kernel_htc_pme_aosp_tabp0le_eas_4.02-O" (from tabp0le) because it has the "performance" cpu governor that i can enable using Kernel Adiutor.
The bugs i encountered so far :
- Camera apps open slowly, except for "Open Camera" , not a big issue.
- HTC Sense Launcher doesn't seem to work, just get the famous (app has stopped) message, but maybe it's a conflict with my GAPPS installation
- Only 1 speaker works, HTC10 has Boomsound with 2 speakers on stock rom, 1 is a treble speaker, the other one is kinda like a small subwoofer for the low frequencies.
Is there any soundmod that would enable both speakers again?

There is not any mod to do that. But the dev of this ROM is working on getting the bottom speaker working.

I just saw that a new build-version is released for HTC10.
lineage-15.1-20180624-UNOFFICIAL-pme.zip

Switching from SuperSU to MagiskSU

Okay so after getting tired of safetynet and other issues Google has put on us I'm wanting to switch to magiskSU but Everytime I tried I bootloop and have to clean flash my rom. This is what I'm doing
1. Flashed unSU in twrp
2.flashed stock boot.img
3. Flashed the magisk.zip
4.got an error saying it failed to install magisk.zip
But whenever I try to reboot to system (I've tried reinstalling SuperSU and without reinstalling as well) I got a bootloop Everytime can someone instruct me or tell me what I'm doing wrong?

WeUseLord- said:
Okay so after getting tired of safetynet and other issues Google has put on us I'm wanting to switch to magiskSU but Everytime I tried I bootloop and have to clean flash my rom. This is what I'm doing
1. Flashed unSU in twrp
2.flashed stock boot.img
3. Flashed the magisk.zip
4.got an error saying it failed to install magisk.zip
But whenever I try to reboot to system (I've tried reinstalling SuperSU and without reinstalling as well) I got a bootloop Everytime can someone instruct me or tell me what I'm doing wrong?
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What carrier/rom/update/etc?

WeUseLord- said:
Okay so after getting tired of safetynet and other issues Google has put on us I'm wanting to switch to magiskSU but Everytime I tried I bootloop and have to clean flash my rom. This is what I'm doing
1. Flashed unSU in twrp
2.flashed stock boot.img
3. Flashed the magisk.zip
4.got an error saying it failed to install magisk.zip
But whenever I try to reboot to system (I've tried reinstalling SuperSU and without reinstalling as well) I got a bootloop Everytime can someone instruct me or tell me what I'm doing wrong?
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In Short. Currently for our device to have magisk, you need to use the boot image that @joemossjr and @Uzephi developed with Magisk support. Then install the magisk app. No zip install.
Refer to Joe's thread for the boot image at this link
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z2-force/how-to/how-to-root-moto-z2-force-t-mobile-t3672933
I would have went into detail and used a short link, but my head is currently throbbing so this is easier lol.
Edit: then realized your replied a minute before I Uzephi haha.

Uzephi said:
What carrier/rom/update/etc?
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Spring stock rom on the original August update
Sent from my Moto Z (2) Force using XDA Labs

Acoustichayes said:
In Short. Currently for our device to have magisk, you need to use the boot image that @joemossjr and @Uzephi developed with Magisk support. Then install the magisk app. No zip install.
Refer to Joe's thread for the boot image at this link
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z2-force/how-to/how-to-root-moto-z2-force-t-mobile-t3672933
I would have went into detail and used a short link, but my head is currently throbbing so this is easier lol.
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I know but when I tried that method and just installing the boot.img through twrp it failed and gave me a boot loop as well
Sent from my Moto Z (2) Force using XDA Labs

WeUseLord- said:
Spring stock rom on the original August update
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I would suggest updating to November. I have a rooted magisk image, but you need to flash the decryption zip to get it to boot. If you update to November, I am going to release a flash-all type zip sometime today (after I fiddle with getting 4.4.107 upstream done) and working on a Google Pixel 2 skinned ROM for us here shortly with oem bloat completely removed

WeUseLord- said:
I know but when I tried that method and just installing the boot.img through twrp it failed and gave me a boot loop as well
Sent from my Moto Z (2) Force using XDA Labs
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Have to ask this general base question of course lol. are you trying to dirty flash or did you do a full clean install?
But in general, what Uzephi said, as this is his project. I'll let him go ahead and take over. Goodluck

WeUseLord- said:
I know but when I tried that method and just installing the boot.img through twrp it failed and gave me a boot loop as well
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You using stock kernel? To get crypto changes in 4.4.101-103 added, it breaks encryption on our phones and will cause a boot loop due to Motorola's dirty code. Hopefully when Oreo ROM drops (since Google is kinda telling oems to stay upstreamed) it will fix those issues in our stock ROMs.

Uzephi said:
I would suggest updating to November. I have a rooted magisk image, but you need to flash the decryption zip to get it to boot. If you update to November, I am going to release a flash-all type zip sometime today (after I fiddle with getting 4.4.107 upstream done) and working on a Google Pixel 2 skinned ROM for us here shortly with oem bloat completely removed
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That's nice I think I'm gonna stick with SuperSU for now this phone is confusing
But one thing I must ask will we have a customisable rom like CM or something like that soon?
Sent from my Moto Z (2) Force using XDA Labs

WeUseLord- said:
That's nice I think I'm gonna stick with SuperSU for now this phone is confusing
But one thing I must ask will we have a customisable rom like CM or something like that soon?
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Hard to say. Those of us that have tried hard bricked the device. Not readable via USB and wouldn't boot anything after the flash.

WeUseLord- said:
That's nice I think I'm gonna stick with SuperSU for now this phone is confusing
But one thing I must ask will we have a customisable rom like CM or something like that soon?
Sent from my Moto Z (2) Force using XDA Labs
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To build off what Uzephi said. It's not that rom's wont be capable. It's just working with new things that are being implemented and changed until something starts going right. The jump to Nougat changed a lot of things with security and the switch to Oreo is changing even more that Google is wanting to push for android that inadvertently also affect security and compatibility.
This is speculation, but since they introduced Kotlin, I feel like they are trying to alter everything over the long run to become more streamline and compatible around it. Especially given they can control the progress of the script language to help them better. Which will really show true or false come mid next year.
We are lucky that Motorola sticks to a super close to stock experience because it's one less issue to deal with when playing with the new code and functions to try to get things to work. I'm really optimistic on this stuff because I like doing things that people think can't be done. So I believe that there will for sure be more customization and capabilities as we figure things out. Just takes time and effort. We worked for months and months on the S8 where people said impossible, and ended up getting it. So i have faith on this.

Acoustichayes said:
To build off what Uzephi said. It's not that rom's wont be capable. It's just working with new things that are being implemented and changed until something starts going right. The jump to Nougat changed a lot of things with security and the switch to Oreo is changing even more that Google is wanting to push for android that inadvertently also affect security and compatibility.
This is speculation, but since they introduced Kotlin, I feel like they are trying to alter everything over the long run to become more streamline and compatible around it. Especially given they can control the progress of the script language to help them better. Which will really show true or false come mid next year.
We are lucky that Motorola sticks to a super close to stock experience because it's one less issue to deal with when playing with the new code and functions to try to get things to work. I'm really optimistic on this stuff because I like doing things that people think can't be done. So I believe that there will for sure be more customization and capabilities as we figure things out. Just takes time and effort. We worked for months and months on the S8 where people said impossible, and ended up getting it. So i have faith on this.
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Motorola already admitted the Z series will not be a part of Project treble meaning we need to try different vendor files to see if builds work. Sadly the ones used for the Z1 and wahoo mixed together cause the phone to go haywire and brick itself.

Uzephi said:
Motorola already admitted the Z series will not be a part of Project treble meaning we need to try different vendor files to see if builds work. Sadly the ones used for the Z1 and wahoo mixed together cause the phone to go haywire and brick itself.
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And I understand that this means lack of simplicity in developing custom rom's. But it doesn't mean incapability. From what I understand as well, that treble can be implemented at a later date even though it will not be included with the initial Oreo update. You are working on a pixel rom conversion if I am correct right? Because I might have an idea...
But treble is still def exciting to think about being able to have one rom work on many different phones without modification. I honestly haven't divulged too far into it, but what are the odds of tearing apart the code and possible making support for it ourselves? I'm all for ridiculously long spans of working towards absurd goals hah

Acoustichayes said:
And I understand that this means lack of simplicity in developing custom rom's. But it doesn't mean incapability. From what I understand as well, that treble can be implemented at a later date even though it will not be included with the initial Oreo update. You are working on a pixel rom conversion if I am correct right? Because I might have an idea...
But treble is still def exciting to think about being able to have one rom work on many different phones without modification. I honestly haven't divulged too far into it, but what are the odds of tearing apart the code and possible making support for it ourselves? I'm all for ridiculously long spans of working towards absurd goals hah
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Unless Motorola can repartition the phone, Treble won't come out, it needs a vendor partition. I can say at least on my Sprint phone the OEM block is about 1.5 GB when there is only about 200 MB of data on it, so they can splice that to save user data. Only other way is to repartition /system or /userdata for the space needed for the new partition.
Yes, I am doing a pixel conversion ROM. Tried just booting the pixel /system and it didn't work. I am taking assets from the Tamien and putting them into our November update using SuperR.

Uzephi said:
Unless Motorola can repartition the phone, Treble won't come out, it needs a vendor partition. I can say at least on my Sprint phone the OEM block is about 1.5 GB when there is only about 200 MB of data on it, so they can splice that to save user data. Only other way is to repartition /system or /userdata for the space needed for the new partition.
Yes, I am doing a pixel conversion ROM. Tried just booting the pixel /system and it didn't work. I am taking assets from the Tamien and putting them into our November update using SuperR.
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I know there are few devs out there working on making it work on non treble phones. Repartitioning and adding a vendor partiion wouldn't be the issue with making it work. Rather trying to get the vendor source for drivers to add to it, and if they need to be reworked to add support. I've been off for a few months with health issues so I'm still getting back into things with oreo, but that seems to be the biggest issue at the moment that I could find.
When my health is back to 100 percent within a couple weeks I will dive into work with you and aid in any way possible for this. To me, trying to get driver source and make it work sounds fun. but we are far off topic now for this post so I'll leave this here haha.

Has anyone tried a treble ROM on the Tab s4?

There are unfortunately no ROMs specifically for this device yet, but has anyone tried to use a generic treble ROM on this device?
Thanks in advance

I have tried several treble ROMs, the majority don't even boot. Lineage os worked but was buggy. The more stable one was Havoc, if I remember correctly.
I was interested in the Q developer ROM but it didn't work. I'm back to the stock pie Rom, since there is no Netflix HD support on those treble roms.

gtaadicto92 said:
I have tried several treble ROMs, the majority don't even boot. Lineage os worked but was buggy. The more stable one was Havoc, if I remember correctly.
I was interested in the Q developer ROM but it didn't work. I'm back to the stock pie Rom, since there is no Netflix HD support on those treble roms.
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Hi Mate, I've been trying to flash a working GSI rom but had no success so far(have an SM-T830). In the past have built ROMs for Tab A 10.1 and flashed them many times with TWRP and Odin so I just cannot understand am I retarded to not being able to flash a working one or what? Have managed to put TWRP 3.3.0.0 and TWRP 3.3.0.1 on the device. Have tried my own arm64_aonly image first. Then an original AOSP one, then a Lineage OS version, at the moment I am just downloading Havoc. The result (apart from the havoc) was always the same. The flashing went through successfully and when I rebooted into system the very fist image came up and boot looped from there. I am always able to go back to TWRP and try another image or through odin can restore the factory image but none of the GSI images seem to be working. So, here is my question. As you managed to get a Lineage and Havoc working, can you tell by looking at it what am I doing wrong please:
1.: OEM unlock
2.: TWRP install with odin
3.: Boot straight into TWRP to prevent being overwritten
4.: TWRP: format data
5.: Flash system image (arm64_aonly)
From here have tried so many things like,
- booting straight into system
- booting back to recovery
- flashing the force_decryptor or how the hell is that called
- formatted data again as the decryptor suggests
The result was always the same, boot looped from the very first image. It seems like that the image is not getting flashed and even if TWRP says was flashed right it is just not there. I'm literaly pulling my hair as it was so easy and straight forward with the Tab A 10.1, but with this ….. thanks for your answer in advance

anyone have any luck with treble GSIs? i can only get arrowos to boot and even then i cant install gapps.

droidbot1337 said:
anyone have any luck with treble GSIs? i can only get arrowos to boot and even then i cant install gapps.
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I used AOSP 9.0 and LineageOS 16 with OpenGApps Pico and both work but are very buggy.

After hours of trying to figure this out myself i ended up finding two ROMs that work for me. I was running stock Android 9 with september's security updates when testing these out:
Roms that i tried, that did NOT work:
BlissOS
ArrowOS
Lineage16
The ROMs that DID work for me were:
phunsson's Treble Experimentations
microG ufOfficial
The only 2 bugs that i've seen so far have been a small graphical glitch of quickettings not staying within the bounds of the pulldown and MTP not working at all. These are both present in both ROMs (The microg ROM uses phhusson's rom as the base). Neither of these bother me all that and i'm very happy to be able to move to microg and not have all the google/samsung bloat hogging my tablet and constantly trying to ping their motherships.
Here's a great list of Generic System Image (GSI) ROMs that you can click scroll through and try downloading and flashing to your device to see if you have any luck.
My process of installing phunsson's GSI ROM:
Reboot to TWRP,
Do a factory reset (Wipe > "Swipe to Do Factory Reset")
Install Image
Reboot
Took about a minute and a half displaying the bootanimation before it got to the home screen for the first time. If it's loading for more than 5 minutes then that ROM definitely isn't going to work with your device.
Hope this helps someone out there trying to get away from their bloated Samsung One UI.

motomotomotoG said:
After hours of trying to figure this out myself i ended up finding two ROMs that work for me. I was running stock Android 9 with september's security updates when testing these out:
Roms that i tried, that did NOT work:
BlissOS
ArrowOS
Lineage16
The ROMs that DID work for me were:
phunsson's Treble Experimentations
microG ufOfficial
The only 2 bugs that i've seen so far have been a small graphical glitch of quickettings not staying within the bounds of the pulldown and MTP not working at all. These are both present in both ROMs (The microg ROM uses phhusson's rom as the base). Neither of these bother me all that and i'm very happy to be able to move to microg and not have all the google/samsung bloat hogging my tablet and constantly trying to ping their motherships.
Here's a great list of Generic System Image (GSI) ROMs that you can click scroll through and try downloading and flashing to your device to see if you have any luck.
My process of installing phunsson's GSI ROM:
Reboot to TWRP,
Do a factory reset (Wipe > "Swipe to Do Factory Reset")
Install Image
Reboot
Took about a minute and a half displaying the bootanimation before it got to the home screen for the first time. If it's loading for more than 5 minutes then that ROM definitely isn't going to work with your device.
Hope this helps someone out there trying to get away from their bloated Samsung One UI.
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Did AOSP 10.0 work for you? I haven't been able to get it to boot. Strangely AOSP 9 and LOS 16 are the only ones I've had luck with.

@last1youlove whoa! You got LOS to work? What kind of magician are you? That one never booted for me. The only ROM I got working was ArrowOS and it has a few bugs. I really want to get HavocOS to work but it's a no-go!

droidbot1337 said:
@last1youlove whoa! You got LOS to work? What kind of magician are you? That one never booted for me. The only ROM I got working was ArrowOS and it has a few bugs. I really want to get HavocOS to work but it's a no-go!
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Strange, How did you go about installing it?

last1youlove said:
Did AOSP 10.0 work for you? I haven't been able to get it to boot. Strangely AOSP 9 and LOS 16 are the only ones I've had luck with.
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I have not. I just really wanted an AOSP based ROM and i had gotten to the point where i had reflashed the stock firmware 3 times through ODIN because I messed up 1 thing or another. So once i got a functional ROM that worked great I just decided to stick to it. Also I don't think Android 10 has Xposed support yet, and i need that in order to enable Signature Spoofing for MicroG's FakeStore.

Help needed for Treble Roms

Hey guys,
I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong. I can't get any treble rom to work. I have four scenarios:
1. Rom don't get over Sony logo.
2. Rom don't get over bootlogo of the rom.
3. Rom boots (Descendant, Havoc), but I have no Wifi (Mac 02:00:00...)
4. Only roms by MartinX work, but fingerprint sensor is really Bad.
What can I do? What is the correct sequence of flashing the different images? Why and when do I need them?
Hope someone can help. I am on firmware 52.0.A.11.32

I was able to use GSI rom's by following the guide here in first post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz2/how-to/gsi-roms-installation-guide-t3914603
I attached a pic (last one is RR) with the rom's i booted successfully. But it was some time ago, when i did that, so i can't say something about the current GSI's.

Thank you for your answer!
Btw I tried a few hours yesterday but I did not had any success.

Like i said, i have not tried current GSI's.
Maybe they have to be permissive to boot...?

Hi @JimmyTheFirst, did you manage to boot any GSI/Treble system on XZ2C? I try to flash RR but I get the same problems as you.

I managed to boot Havoc 2.6. All above don't work for me. Descendant and Pixel Experience also works, but nö ViperOs Or RR.
In this moment I'm waiting for a new update of Pixel Experience, but I think it could take some weeks.