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I'm looking to spend on Note 10 plus 5G, currently on Verizon but the biggest question that I couldn't find the answer is if in the future, I will have to stay with Verizon forever if I want to use 5G on this phone.
Samsung released different snapdragon models for each carrier, but what if I want to switch to Tmobile or AT&T with this phone? Is there a workaround to make these phones work with different carriers, especially with 5G?
S10 5G is out for many months, but I couldn't find a thread showing portability. Although selling the phone for a discounted price and buying other one that works on different carrier is an option, looking to find if it is practical to use 5G when we switch carrier.
Thank you
Cashreedhar said:
I'm looking to spend on Note 10 plus 5G, currently on Verizon but the biggest question that I couldn't find the answer is if in the future, I will have to stay with Verizon forever if I want to use 5G on this phone.
Samsung released different snapdragon models for each carrier, but what if I want to switch to Tmobile or AT&T with this phone? Is there a workaround to make these phones work with different carriers, especially with 5G?
S10 5G is out for many months, but I couldn't find a thread showing portability. Although selling the phone for a discounted price and buying other one that works on different carrier is an option, looking to find if it is practical to use 5G when we switch carrier.
Thank you
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once its sim unlicked it will workbwith other carriers.. ive tried it on multiole sims from dif carriers
The lte radios should be the same, the 5g will never work across carriers for now considering theyre taping into different spectrum. Modems and antenna designs are different between the different 5g methodology each carrier adopted.
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once its sim unlicked it will workbwith other carriers.. ive tried it on multiole sims from dif carriers
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That is very nice to hear. Does the phone work with other carriers once sim unlocked without changing the phone software? Does 5G work on other carriers too, if the bandwidths match? Thanks
coilbio said:
The lte radios should be the same, the 5g will never work across carriers for now considering theyre taping into different spectrum. Modems and antenna designs are different between the different 5g methodology each carrier adopted.
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I may not understand much details of these modems, however my understanding is that there are some 5G bands common between carriers.
Verizon holds 76% of total available 28GHz spectrum bands and and 48% 39GHz 5g spectrum bands.
At&T holds 40% of 39GHz bands and Tmobile holds 12% of 28GHz bands. If I'm not mistaken the modem in Note 10 5G model supports 600MHz which is new Tmobile band. So, if Note 10 modem supports those 2 5G bands on verizon, technically it should work on at&t and t-mobile too? Although these may work in different cities as of now
Yes and no, I don't know if it has the right antennas, they matter to match the signal length and the obvious is how locked the radio is.
You forget Verizon are evil about keeping their phones there.
It could be the phone is capable but will never be able because it's a Verizon phone and they nerfed something.
coilbio said:
Yes and no, I don't know if it has the right antennas, they matter to match the signal length and the obvious is how locked the radio is.
You forget Verizon are evil about keeping their phones there.
It could be the phone is capable but will never be able because it's a Verizon phone and they nerfed something.
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In the past we were able to unlock blocked antenna bands using Qualcomm QPST tool and hope there will be possibilities in the future. It's not that Verizon is evil, it applies to all carriers. There has been court ruled regulations that enabled users to take their device to other networks, but blocking 5G would be inconvenience to users, as we all know 5G is the future. I'm going to grab a Note 10 plus 5G for now
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In the past we were able to unlock blocked antenna bands using Qualcomm QPST tool and hope there will be possibilities in the future. It's not that Verizon is evil, it applies to all carriers. There has been court ruled regulations that enabled users to take their device to other networks, but blocking 5G would be inconvenience to users, as we all know 5G is the future. I'm going to grab a Note 10 plus 5G for now
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technically they wouldnt be blocking anything if they just dont include the antennae/functionailt.. its then up to the user to research and purchase if it suits their needs.
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After Verizon unlocked the phone, surprisingly 5G works with Tmobile without any modification. Of course not all the bands. Haven't had 5G signal so far and suddenly when I'm standing near a 5G antenna in downtown Manhattan, I had full signal
I have the same phone. I was not able to see 5G with TMobile or AT&T. I am also not able to get the Verizon hardware off my phone. ( boot logo, etc.) Any work arounds?
Odd. I have the 5G on VZW thats unlocked. My phone works fine with my TM SIM but does not pickup 5G even though my OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren gets 5G.
Milyenair said:
I have the same phone. I was not able to see 5G with TMobile or AT&T. I am also not able to get the Verizon hardware off my phone. ( boot logo, etc.) Any work arounds?
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nope.
the n976v only has vzw and gcf csc codes on it which both use the vzw sales code n network code.. changing carriers should work but on network as the csc should recognize this and load the correct apns n such but the bootani n vzw stuff is there to stay..
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Odd. I have the 5G on VZW thats unlocked. My phone works fine with my TM SIM but does not pickup 5G even though my OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren gets 5G.
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not odd.. its a vzw branded 5g device.. its hit or miss on other 5g networks.. they typically use different bands and frequencies and 5g variants dont contain full csc for other carriers like the non 5g devices
So I'm having an issue, I'm trying to get my phone to work with Total Wireless but for some reason I cannot adjust the APN and they can't send me an update to my sim card. I can get the calls and text to work and it shows 4g but no data due to the incorrect APN. Its all grayed out with no way to add or configure it. The IMEI also says its not compatible with Total Wireless which is weird since all other verizon phones have worked before except this Note 10+ 5g.
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So I'm having an issue, I'm trying to get my phone to work with Total Wireless but for some reason I cannot adjust the APN and they can't send me an update to my sim card. I can get the calls and text to work and it shows 4g but no data due to the incorrect APN. Its all grayed out with no way to add or configure it. The IMEI also says its not compatible with Total Wireless which is weird since all other verizon phones have worked before except this Note 10+ 5g.
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CamachoDjr said:
So I'm having an issue, I'm trying to get my phone to work with Total Wireless but for some reason I cannot adjust the APN and they can't send me an update to my sim card. I can get the calls and text to work and it shows 4g but no data due to the incorrect APN. Its all grayed out with no way to add or configure it. The IMEI also says its not compatible with Total Wireless which is weird since all other verizon phones have worked before except this Note 10+ 5g.
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Where did you buy this phone? I had the same issue, when I changed the code to GCF from VZW. I had to send the phone back to Samsung, as the local samsung experience store couldn't even understand the problem. GCF is for Samsung diagnostic purposes only and they had to change the motherboard board on the phone in order to fix the issue. If your carrier 5g mmwave band is one of the band used by Verizon, you'll be able to use 5G with this phone. I was able to use 5G in NYC with TMOBILE, but not when I moved to a different state.
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Odd. I have the 5G on VZW thats unlocked. My phone works fine with my TM SIM but does not pickup 5G even though my OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren gets 5G.
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I can relate the issue you're facing. I was using this phone with TMobile 5G in NYC, but when I moved to different state, I can't get the 5G reception. In order to understand this further, you need to understand the frequencies supported by TMobile and frequencies owned by Verizon. TMobile shares one of Verizon's mmwave band (only around 25%) and these antennas are limited to only few metro cities. Even if you live in one of those big cities, you need to stand close to the 5G antenna in order to get the 5G signal. I remember that I had to stand within 50ft from the antenna in order to get 5G signal (downtown Manhattan near Meridian Lane and Water st).
So I'm new to this. Ive got a Note10+ 5G from Verizon (SM-N976V). Ported over from Verizon to At&t. Works fine accept its on 4G LTE (no 5G... the Samsung S9+ went over to 5G no issues). I am told if I flash the phone to the unlocked firmware it should get rid of the Verizon "lock" and work. I have tried this as per help form Android Central however having no success flashing... I am not exactly that savvy with this stuff... Please help
elliwigy said:
once its sim unlicked it will workbwith other carriers.. ive tried it on multiole sims from dif carriers
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elliwigy, please let me know how you got your SM-N976V to work on other carriers. I've been trying to get mine to work on Visible and I can not change the APN settings.
mbmallette said:
elliwigy, please let me know how you got your SM-N976V to work on other carriers. I've been trying to get mine to work on Visible and I can not change the APN settings.
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You can network unlock it pretty easily even if the phone isn't paid off yet. Download setedit by 4a from the play store:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xyz.paphonb.systemuituner
and change the setting "vzw_network_lock" from a 1 to a 0. You'll have to buy the expansion pack from 4a to have a foreground guardian that'll prevent it from going back to a 1.
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Can anyone else check theirs and see. I feel kind of Jipped...I bought this phone in full from Verizon and now I check the bands to find out it may not support all the 5G bands. I have tmbile, Sprint, and Verizon 5g in my city and I intended on using it. Yes I have all 3 phone carriers.
what app did you use to see what the bands are?
I have same problem the 5G doesn't show how I can fix it ????
I think that band menu changes based on sim card inserted. Try with different sim card which uses that band
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what app did you use to see what the bands are?
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I think it is QuickShortcutMaker on google play
It is discussed in the following thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s20/help/samsung-band-lock-exynos-t4071125
Good evening all,
I recently purchased an unlocked snapdragon S20 Ultra 5G and I am unable to get the Network Mode option under Mobile Network. Is there any way I can enable without having to wipe the phone?
I am currently on AT&T and in the LA area where 5G is available (I checked on the map)
Thank you!
xxxrichievxxx said:
Good evening all,
I recently purchased an unlocked snapdragon S20 Ultra 5G and I am unable to get the Network Mode option under Mobile Network. Is there any way I can enable without having to wipe the phone?
I am currently on AT&T and in the LA area where 5G is available (I checked on the map)
Thank you!
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Are you currently on ATE4?
In order for me to have wifi calling and 5G I had be running ATE6 U CSC from G988US.
Go to this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s20/how-to/g988u-g988u1-firmware-links-flashing-t4054133
Read thru it you'll see what to do
JDBarlow said:
Are you currently on ATE4?
In order for me to have wifi calling and 5G I had be running ATE6 U CSC from G988US.
Go to this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s20/how-to/g988u-g988u1-firmware-links-flashing-t4054133
Read thru it you'll see what to do
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Thank you for your reply!
I went ahead and followed the tutorial again and no success..
I am getting 5Ge which is not true 5G just a little gimmick AT&T has pulled. Notice in the screen shot how it says LTE still.
And I still don't have the option to select the network mode.. Which leads me to believe that that is what is blocking 5G from happening.
I'm currently in the Modesto area which according to the AT&T website should be one of the few cities to have it here in California..
I'm beginning to think this Snapdragon version I purchased has the band locked for some reason...
I have found out why I wasn't receiving 5G, my AT&T plan had to be set up with AT&T Elite or AT&T Extra plan. Without that I wasn't able to access the 5G network. It's a little mind-boggling that we have to pay extra to access 5G.
xxxrichievxxx said:
I have found out why I wasn't receiving 5G, my AT&T plan had to be set up with AT&T Elite or AT&T Extra plan. Without that I wasn't able to access the 5G network. It's a little mind-boggling that we have to pay extra to access 5G.
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Paying extra for 5G is pretty standard. Besides having faster download speeds, what advantage(s) do you have over 4G, receiving a text or email 3 seconds sooner? I'm holding off until networks are built out and Service Provider standards are defined. In the future when more 5G utilities are widely available it makes perfect sense but for now I can't justify spending more for a 5G Device and additional Service Provider fees.
I have a bootloader unlocked, rooted Galaxy S20 Ultra SM-G9880 (Hong Kong version) that I am using on T-Mobile. However, I had some doubts about how it interacts with the various bands.
The phone does not support some of T-Mobile's LTE bands, and it does not seem to support any of their current 5G bands. Is there any way to change this with CSC changes or any other trickery?
Would AT&T be better for any of this?
When I use the Samsung band selector app, I see that NR B41 is supported. This is the Sprint spectrum that T-Mobile is repurposing, correct? Does that mean additional 5G and LTE coverage once the rollout is complete?
Another user was having problems enabling carrier aggregation. Is there a way of doing this?
Jonah50 said:
I have a bootloader unlocked, rooted Galaxy S20 Ultra SM-G9880 (Hong Kong version) that I am using on T-Mobile. However, I had some doubts about how it interacts with the various bands.
The phone does not support some of T-Mobile's LTE bands, and it does not seem to support any of their current 5G bands. Is there any way to change this with CSC changes or any other trickery?
Would AT&T be better for any of this?
When I use the Samsung band selector app, I see that NR B41 is supported. This is the Sprint spectrum that T-Mobile is repurposing, correct? Does that mean additional 5G and LTE coverage once the rollout is complete?
Another user was having problems enabling carrier aggregation. Is there a way of doing this?
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You can't change to a US CSC on your device. Some users are reporting 5G works only on SIM2. Carrier Aggregation isn't compatible in the US with the SM-G9880. I have the Hong Kong variant on T-mobile and 4G LTE works fine.
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You can't change to a US CSC on your device. Some users are reporting 5G works only on SIM2. Carrier Aggregation isn't compatible in the US with the SM-G9880. I have the Hong Kong variant on T-mobile and 4G LTE works fine.
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Would you happen to know if our imei works with 5g on t mobile? I just switched last month from att. On att, you would have to call and give an att imei in order for 5g to work and I'm wondering if t mobile is the same way or if it works out of the box with our imei.
Also, I have an SD card and seems like I cannot have a Sim on slot 2 and an SD at the same time, do you happen to know if an esim will get 5g?
m_reyna_16 said:
Would you happen to know if our imei works with 5g on t mobile? I just switched last month from att. On att, you would have to call and give an att imei in order for 5g to work and I'm wondering if t mobile is the same way or if it works out of the box with our imei.
Also, I have an SD card and seems like I cannot have a Sim on slot 2 and an SD at the same time, do you happen to know if an esim will get 5g?
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That's a question for T-mobile. It's not a question of your IMEI, it's whether or not your device's available 4G and 5G bands are compatible with T-mobile. I don't know what model you have but if it's a US model eSim isn't available on S20 devices. Only Exynos devices have eSim capabilities.
varcor said:
That's a question for T-mobile. It's not a question of your IMEI, it's whether or not your device's available 4G and 5G bands are compatible with T-mobile. I don't know what model you have but if it's a US model eSim isn't available on S20 devices. Only Exynos devices have eSim capabilities.
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I have the same model that's been on topic... The SM-G9880...
SM-G9880 isn't eSim enabled, only Exynos variants offer this. 5G may work, take it to your local T-mobile store and see if they can set it up. Often times information coming from a CSR over the phone isn't reliable. If it worked with AT&T on SIM 1 T-mobile it MAY work as well however many users have stated it only works on SIM 2. Even though T-mobile's 5G network has a larger coverage area they can't match the speed of AT&T's mmWave network.
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That's a question for T-mobile. It's not a question of your IMEI, it's whether or not your device's available 4G and 5G bands are compatible with T-mobile. I don't know what model you have but if it's a US model eSim isn't available on S20 devices. Only Exynos devices have eSim capabilities.
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I know that some people were trying to enable eSIM on rooted Snapdragon S20 Ultra devices. Did anything ever happen with that?
Jonah50 said:
I know that some people were trying to enable eSIM on rooted Snapdragon S20 Ultra devices. Did anything ever happen with that?
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If you root the device I suppose it's possible to override an eSim block on the SM-G9880 but I'm not aware of anyone achieving it. The only Snapdragon variant which offers eSim at this time is the Galaxy Fold. I don't understand what the value of eSim is on a Dual SIM device. Even if you travel to a different country it's a simple choice, keep the SD Card in or use both SIM's and rely on internal memory for storage.
Did anyone try using BRI CSC to see if CA works in the USA?
Can anyone explain what's the whole deal with the 5G mmWave & Sub-6 ? I'm asking because I'm in Romania, on Orange carrier, and have 5G plan. I had a Xiaomi Mi 11 which had 5G signal, but now with my P6P only LTE. Also no voLTE and no voWIFI.
I checked with them(Orange), they reset my network, tried eSIM, tried another SIM, still only LTE.
I get about 200 mb\sec, but I pay for 1.2 gb\sec(I know it won't be that fast, but with the Mi 11 I had about 450-500 mb\sec, and lower pings in everything). Does anyone know how to enable voLTE at least?
The only thing I could find from Google was this article https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/10082009?hl=en
Have you gotten the December update for your P6P yet? I believe it has some 5G fixes, although I don't use 5G so I can't speak about it first hand.
google blocks 5g in countries it is not sold in.
clipdawg05 said:
google blocks 5g in countries it is not sold in.
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Is there any way that I could enable it via custom rom/recovery/kernel, or magisk mods ?
5g not yet, but volte and vowifi yes
so is tmobile Ultra Capacity the same as MMwave?
Blitzz.666 said:
Is there any way that I could enable it via custom rom/recovery/kernel, or magisk mods ?
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you can flash the radio
clipdawg05 said:
google blocks 5g in countries it is not sold in.
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Where did you read this?
Vio281 said:
so is tmobile Ultra Capacity the same as MMwave?
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It's just marketing. 2.5 GHz is the suburban mid-band 5G. mmwave is the very distance limited high-band 5G meant only for stadiums, parks, and dense downtown areas.
Both are marketed as ultra capacity.
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It's just marketing. 2.5 GHz is the suburban mid-band 5G. mmwave is the very distance limited high-band 5G meant only for stadiums, parks, and dense downtown areas.
Both are marketed as ultra capacity.
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I dont know about marketing...UC is consistently 10x quicker than regular 5g for me.
Vio281 said:
I dont know about marketing...UC is consistently 10x quicker than regular 5g for me.
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I've been reading about T-Mobile 5G. Apparently there are three tiers. The first low wave isn't that much faster than 4G. Then included with UC there's medium 2.4 ghz wave which for me is a lot faster. I live in a medium sized city and I pick up UC most of the time. I was able to get 390 Mbps with medium wave. I haven't picked up the ultra high band yet, which is of course UC also.
Blitzz.666 said:
Can anyone explain what's the whole deal with the 5G mmWave & Sub-6 ? I'm asking because I'm in Romania, on Orange carrier, and have 5G plan. I had a Xiaomi Mi 11 which had 5G signal, but now with my P6P only LTE. Also no voLTE and no voWIFI.
I checked with them(Orange), they reset my network, tried eSIM, tried another SIM, still only LTE.
I get about 200 mb\sec, but I pay for 1.2 gb\sec(I know it won't be that fast, but with the Mi 11 I had about 450-500 mb\sec, and lower pings in everything). Does anyone know how to enable voLTE at least?
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The chances are your phone only has Sub6 and doesnt even have the necessary mmWave hardware anyway (unless you bought it in the states) so i wouldn't lose too much sleep over it.
MrBelter said:
The chances are your phone only has Sub6 and doesnt even have the necessary mmWave hardware anyway (unless you bought it in the states) so i wouldn't lose too much sleep over it.
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So my 5g phone can't connect to 5g ? Wow...nice move, google.
If it can't connect to the very short-range mmwave. You still get mid-band and nationwide 5G if your carrier has built it out.
But yes, it is a **** move that Google removes the antenna from Pro models that don't include mmwave. They just shove a piece of plastic to fill out the space.
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So my 5g phone can't connect to 5g ? Wow...nice move, google.
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What do you mean it cannot connect to 5G? Sub-6 will still get you more speed than you'll ever need and of course the main benefit which is capacity, also you're not going to have to stand next to the cell site to even get it, you can be miles away to benefit. mmWave isnt even deployed in most countries because in everyday use it is pointless.
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Absolute nonsense ..
Here in Austria the pixel is not officially sold, 5G and VOLTE still work perfectly.
5G wont work in unsupported countries. At the ss you can see what country is supported in the Europe. You can just google it if you dont belive it (example: "5g blocked in unsupported countries google pixel")
Google blocks it, and is lying that is that countries operators fault. But it is obviously a lie. The theme is discussed from Pixel 4a 5G. Until now on the other pixels with 5G, you could install the magisk module, which unlocked everything, so how come it's the operators fault, if the lock was discovered in the software. Pixels 6/pro have a 5G modem from Samsung, so maybe that's the fault why you haven't yet been able to unlock via the magisk module
In summary, it's not about any frequencies, the Pixel 6/pro supports all 5G frequencies used in Europe. This is Google's fault alone, they are tardy and don't want to solve this problem, and probably just don't give a **** about the other countries. Best to spam on their Pixel forum and in the feedback, maybe they will finally wake up
I don't know if this helps anyone: Check carriers, their 5G networks & their 5G roaming support for Pixel phones. Make sure and choose your country from the drop-down to see the list of carriers beneath.
There's also the section above that Learn which Pixel phones can work with which kinds of 5G.
comediiian said:
Absolute nonsense ..
Here in Austria the pixel is not officially sold, 5G and VOLTE still work perfectly.
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you mix between unsupported countries, and official sales countries. there are so many countries which not official sales of Pixel but google just official supported carrier, and there are so many countries that they dont at all.