Hey all!
First post here, just have a few questions regarding the Honk Kong version of s20+
First, I see it is unlocked so I can use it with any carrier I please (I am planning on switching to verizon from sprint). I believe it will work with Verizon but I wanted to verify if the bands (4G LTE specifically) will work with the phone. (I honestly dont think I have 5G in my area so that isnt crucial if it doesnt work )
Secondly, If I decide to root it (Im 95% sure I can even if it's the Snapdragon 865). Will I have every feature I would have if I had the US one? If not, will rooting be able to achieve unlocking all the features I would be able to use in the US.
Thanks in advance!
theRonimal said:
Hey all!
First post here, just have a few questions regarding the Honk Kong version of s20+
First, I see it is unlocked so I can use it with any carrier I please (I am planning on switching to verizon from sprint). I believe it will work with Verizon but I wanted to verify if the bands (4G LTE specifically) will work with the phone. (I honestly dont think I have 5G in my area so that isnt crucial if it doesnt work )
Secondly, If I decide to root it (Im 95% sure I can even if it's the Snapdragon 865). Will I have every feature I would have if I had the US one? If not, will rooting be able to achieve unlocking all the features I would be able to use in the US.
Thanks in advance!
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Question 1
Yes
Questions 2 & 3
What features are you referring to? If it's calling features the answers are no and no.
varcor said:
Question 1
Yes
Questions 2 & 3
What features are you referring to? If it's calling features the answers are no and no.
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Oh so I wouldnt even be able to call? Interesting
theRonimal said:
Oh so I wouldnt even be able to call? Interesting
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No, your questions are would I have EVERY and ALL features as the US device. The answers are no because you won't have Carrier Aggregation and possibly no VoLTE.
I just bought the s20 ultra lte, I'm going to run it on Verizon. I'll let you know once I receive it.
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I got my S20 Ultra exynos version and it works great with Verizon. The only thing is that I am missing is wifi calling
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I need some help! I don't know if this has been answered, I've looked and I haven't found a topic on this
I want to buy this phone on Amazon because I don't wanna add a line and I wanna use my Amazon Credit Card so I wanna buy this on there
but I'm lost of which unlocked version works with T-Mobile LTE
any help will be appreciated!
and sorry Mods if you wanna mode this thread to the Q&A Section, seems more of a question than General Information of the device, Thanks!
blacknet101 said:
I need some help! I don't know if this has been answered, I've looked and I haven't found a topic on this
I want to buy this phone on Amazon because I don't wanna add a line and I wanna use my Amazon Credit Card so I wanna buy this on there
but I'm lost of which unlocked version works with T-Mobile LTE
any help will be appreciated!
and sorry Mods if you wanna mode this thread to the Q&A Section, seems more of a question than General Information of the device, Thanks!
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IIRC, and I'm only answering because I haven't seen anyone else pitch in yet, only the T-Mobile variant works completely with T-Mobile (obviously).
The next closest one is the AT&T variant, but I think I remember reading that you might not get full LTE support (dual band use) on it.
For the most part, all of the GSM variants will work on T-Mobile, but you will not get LTE connections, at the most, just 3G.
When I was searching for the G3, I remember bumping into that problem of no Tmo LTE bands on the unlocked variants.
So, I just went with the Tmo branded 851 and flushed the receipt down the toilet (after making a copy, of course )
JustLok said:
IIRC, and I'm only answering because I haven't seen anyone else pitch in yet, only the T-Mobile variant works completely with T-Mobile (obviously).
The next closest one is the AT&T variant, but I think I remember reading that you might not get full LTE support (dual band use) on it.
For the most part, all of the GSM variants will work on T-Mobile, but you will not get LTE connections, at the most, just 3G.
When I was searching for the G3, I remember bumping into that problem of no Tmo LTE bands on the unlocked variants.
So, I just went with the Tmo branded 851 and flushed the receipt down the toilet (after making a copy, of course )
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thanks haha for the response but yeah I guess I'm gonna have to do the same!
Hey, I plan to buy my Galaxy so from Samsung rather than my carrier (ATT). I have a couple questions. Will I just be able to add the Sim currently in my Galaxy say or will I need a new one? Also, will I have to take it into the store?
Just put your existing soon card in and away you go. No need for anything else. It's what I did when I got my Note 8 from Samsung.
If you buy it from Samsung, the phone it's unlocked, so you can use any valid SIM (including the one you are currently using now).
Samsung has an unlocked model available on their website along with carrier specific models. I would think the carrier specific models are the same as the phones you would get at a AT&T or Verizon store. Correct me if I'm wrong.
dmb219 said:
Samsung has an unlocked model available on their website along with carrier specific models. I would think the carrier specific models are the same as the phones you would get at a AT&T or Verizon store. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I'd like to know this as I would like an unlocked bootloader but.... I would like the Carrier version for some additional features like VoLTE/VoWifi.
Right now I'm torn between just going to Best Buy (since in the states) or just getting it directly from Samsung.
The carrier versions will have the standard carrier bloat pre-installed.
I can't find the exact band specifications of each of the models... Does anyone know if the hardware/antenna chips will be the same on T-Mobile vs. unlocked from Samsung? I am assuming there are certain bands missing from the unlocked version if you plan on using T-mobile's network, but I can't confirm this....
Best Buy's doing a $100 off if you preorder on Friday just heads up.
StykerB said:
Best Buy's doing a $100 off if you preorder on Friday just heads up.
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And if you have an s8 or other qualifying phone you can get a total of $450 off I believe on Friday from Best Buy.
Nightwind Hawk said:
I can't find the exact band specifications of each of the models... Does anyone know if the hardware/antenna chips will be the same on T-Mobile vs. unlocked from Samsung? I am assuming there are certain bands missing from the unlocked version if you plan on using T-mobile's network, but I can't confirm this....
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I too had the same questions and this is what I found. I don't know how accurate it is.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/Ar9mx/samsung-sm-g965u-galaxy-s9-td-lte-samsung-star-2
uzupan said:
I too had the same questions and this is what I found. I don't know how accurate it is.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/Ar9mx/samsung-sm-g965u-galaxy-s9-td-lte-samsung-star-2
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It looks like the answer to our question is on this page: https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-s9-sm-g960-g965-model-number-differences/
The T-Mobile version seems to be missing the following, in comparison to the unlocked US version:
4G FDD LTE B71 (600 mhz) - This is T-Mobile's new spectrum... this seems important to have (just google t-mobile 600mhz)
2G CDMA and 3G CDMA - I don't believe this matters to us
3G TD-SCDMA B34 and B39 (2010 and 1880mhz) - I assume these will be missed if outside LTE coverage?
But in general, the unlocked version seems to support more bands than the Tmo version
So, it seems if one is on the T-Mobile network and plans to stay there, they really should get the T-Mobile version of the phone.... someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Deathman20 said:
I'd like to know this as I would like an unlocked bootloader but.... I would like the Carrier version for some additional features like VoLTE/VoWifi.
Right now I'm torn between just going to Best Buy (since in the states) or just getting it directly from Samsung.
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You do know that unlocked isn't meaning unlocked bootloader right? It's meaning unlocked bands
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I'm with AT&T and I'm pretty sure there will be no wifi calling on any phone other than the AT&T version. That's a feature I want. If it doesn't matter to you an unlocked phone may be for you. I don't know for a fact that wifi calling won't work on an unlocked S9 but if it does, it will be the first. I don't want the extra carrier apps but they aren't going to cause me any grief on a beast like this phone. I'd rather have the services the carrier provides if I'm going to use them. If It turns out that wifi calling works on the unlocked S9, I may revise my plan but I doubt that will happen. I'm pretty much done with the rooting/modding stuff so that isn't an issue. Even the master hackers are going with stock phones d/t the features and security.
Dear Friends,
Hope everyone is well. As a side effect of having wealth of knowledge, reading through the forums here I believe the answer to my question is still, "yes" however, I would still like to confirm and make sure:
If I buy a Verizon Note 8 today, whether it's from Ebay, Swappa, Craigslist and etc and whether the user did or did NOT update to the latest Bootloader version and firmware version (Oreo)... Is it still possible to use some combination of firmware, Bootloader, CSC and etc to convert the Verizon Note to an AT&T Note or the unbranded US Note 8 and still have unrestricted, full functionality on AT&T?
If, yes, indeed, can you please point me to the right guide and files so that I can go through my purchase?
Appreciate your help in advance!
Any input, friends? Trying to buy a Note 8 based on your expert opinions ?... Thanks!
I converted my VZW note 8 to AT&T and used it flawlessly for a few months. This was before Oreo was released. I've since switched it back to VZW.
While on AT&T, volte & wifi calling worked as well.
ProFragger said:
Any input, friends? Trying to buy a Note 8 based on your expert opinions ?... Thanks!
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It is always best to get the carrier brand you intend to be on....
But if you can't pass on a deal, yes you can follow switching carrier guide to turn a Verizon Note into an ATT Note....
On the one hand if you need to move between carriers or around the world, it be better to get the Verizon phone even for the AT&T network because it gives you CDMA + Quad-Band GSM. If you are going to stick with one carrier, if you get a newer phone, it will probably support 100% of their current and soon-to-be bands while the Verizon might only support 90%. That might make a difference in aggregation. Depending on the company, they might not allow you to use aggregation or VOLTE or Wi-Fi calling without their branded phone, although ajent above has had luck with at least 2 out of 3 of those by using a Verizon phone on an AT&T network.
Hello, I have been with Verizon the last few years and I'm in the market for a new phone. I see on SlickDeals that there is a deal for the Verizon Samsung S10/S10+, but after reading through some of the posts, it seems you can't root the Verizon S10/S10+.
Since I don't need the latest and greatest phone from Verizon, are there any 'older', new in-store models that can be rooted so that I can install a custom ROM, etc?
Thanks in advance!
Your best bet is to get another phone that's not Verizon branded and just activate it on Verizon. You'd be going back a few years to get a Verizon phone that's rootable.
Thank you for this information... a couple of things getting another phone that is not Verizon branded:
- Previously, one would need to make sure they get a 'CDMA' (vs GSM) phone, but is there any technology, etc I need to look for when trying to find a non-Verizon phone?
- I assume if I get a 'non' branded Verizon phone, that some of the Verizon specific features may not work, e.g. WiFi calling, etc?
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Thank you for this information... a couple of things getting another phone that is not Verizon branded:
- Previously, one would need to make sure they get a 'CDMA' (vs GSM) phone, but is there any technology, etc I need to look for when trying to find a non-Verizon phone?
- I assume if I get a 'non' branded Verizon phone, that some of the Verizon specific features may not work, e.g. WiFi calling, etc?
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I can only answer the 2nd part of your question. Once you activate it on a Vzw sim you can flash Vzw firmware and get all the same features
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I can only answer the 2nd part of your question. Once you activate it on a Vzw sim you can flash Vzw firmware and get all the same features
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Thanks for this... that makes sense. The only other things is regarding the Verizon frequency bands - I'm guessing some phones may not have or support all of the Verizon frequency bands.
gil_happy said:
Thanks for this... that makes sense. The only other things is regarding the Verizon frequency bands - I'm guessing some phones may not have or support all of the Verizon frequency bands.
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I have the international unlocked model of the s10+ U1 version on Verizon and yes maybe one or two LTE bands aren't supported but i get 82Mbps down and 12Mbps up depending on location
Hi,
I haven't been able to find a clear answer to this, but does the international S20+ work on AT&T's 5G and mmWave network? From what I can tell the phone has RF support for AT&T's 5G bands including mmWave (n260), but does the phone actually register on their network?
I'm coming from the S7 where I was used to flashing a CSC or OMC for AT&T in order to get VoLET and WIFI calling. Is there ATT CSC or OMC support for this phone yet particularly for 5G and mmWave support? I couldn't really find anything.
Thanks!
Have you visited an ATT Retailer?
varcor said:
Have you visited an ATT Retailer?
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I don't understand your question. What does that have to do with my question?
mattwood2000 said:
I don't understand your question. What does that have to do with my question?
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What don't you understand? You're looking for clear answers since you really can't find anything. First you need to realize ATT Firmware including their CSC isn't compatible with your Exynos SoC. Secondly, why not ask the Service Provider in question (ATT) since they're best suited to resolve compatibility issues?
varcor said:
What don't you understand? You're looking for clear answers since you really can't find anything. First you need to realize ATT Firmware including their CSC isn't compatible with your Exynos SoC. Secondly, why not ask the Service Provider in question (ATT) since they're best suited to resolve compatibility issues?
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Maybe I should have been more clear...What I'm really asking is if anyone currently has an unlocked international variant and is running it on AT&T, and if so, does it connect to their 5G mmWave service?
Its been my experience that the people who work at ATT stores don't know anything about anything. So no I'm not going to waste my time asking someone who will just try to tell me what I want to hear or flat out say no because they don't know what their talking about.
Yes a carrier's CSC is technically not compatible with an international unlocked phone but it still works. There are a whole bunch of people running custom or stock CSCs on non-carrier hardware, myself included.
mattwood2000 said:
Maybe I should have been more clear...What I'm really asking is if anyone currently has an unlocked international variant and is running it on AT&T, and if so, does it connect to their 5G mmWave service?
Its been my experience that the people who work at ATT stores don't know anything about anything. So no I'm not going to waste my time asking someone who will just try to tell me what I want to hear or flat out say no because they don't know what their talking about.
Yes a carrier's CSC is technically not compatible with an international unlocked phone but it still works. There are a whole bunch of people running custom or stock CSCs on non-carrier hardware, myself included.
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Your device isn't compatible with ATT mmWave regardless of the CSC or FW. Nor does it matter that your device operates on the same 4G and 5G frequencies ATT engages. It has to do with ATT Protocols which restrict functionality to select devices.
ATT is by far the worst when it comes to compatibility alignment for Non-ATT devices. If call features, carrier aggregation and services are a priority then stick with your service provider's branded device.