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Thinking about buying, need some advice...

I'm on the fence between waiting for the N5 or getting the OG Pro.
Is the OG Pro difficult to root, flash custom recovery, CM 10.2, etc? (That's what I really want the device for)
Is the bootloader locked?
Any basic suggestions or tips would be appreciated.

The boot loader is locked. However, there is a work around called "Loki", hence the roms, which btw run great on the G Pro.
But I'd advise you to wait for the N5 due to it having a fully unlocked boot loader , more accessories and more support by both Google and XDA.
I will buy one for sure.

donalgodon said:
I'm on the fence between waiting for the N5 or getting the OG Pro.
Is the OG Pro difficult to root, flash custom recovery, CM 10.2, etc? (That's what I really want the device for)
Is the bootloader locked?
Any basic suggestions or tips would be appreciated.
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OG Pro is simple to root, both cwm and twrp recoveries are easily available and working, and there is an official CM 10.2 available which is a nightly, so daily updates
So if these are your only considerations, you can buy the OG Pro with your eyes closed.
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vivebatu said:
OG Pro is simple to root, both cwm and twrp recoveries are easily available and working, and there is an official CM 10.2 available which is a nightly, so daily updates
So if these are your only considerations, you can buy the OG Pro with your eyes closed.
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My only concern is that I don't know if the 980H is the same as the 980.
The 980H is the Panama version, the ROM from which is a popular flash option for this model in a Stock ROM. I'm actually in Panama, and this is where I'll purchase.
What about the root, recovery options? Should I use the one's for the 980? I don't see any for the H variant.

donalgodon said:
I'm on the fence between waiting for the N5 or getting the OG Pro.
Is the OG Pro difficult to root, flash custom recovery, CM 10.2, etc? (That's what I really want the device for)
Is the bootloader locked?
Any basic suggestions or tips would be appreciated.
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OG Pro is a GREAT Device in its own way. If you need Removable battery, Micro SD slot then this device is suitable.
N5 has is pros and cons. U get latest S800 processor, direct updates from google, but only 16 or 32GB storage and non removable 2300 mah of N5 is no near to 3140mah of OGP. And LG will MOSTLY update OGP to 4.4 Kitkat by end of this year.
It is easy to flash custom roms on this device, well easier than HTC phones and there is going to be lot of development in future for this device. This device also have OFFICIAL support from Cyanogen mod team.(Correct me if i'm wrong).
For me OGP is better option than most of the other phones out there right now.

StarkV5 said:
OG Pro is a GREAT Device in its own way. If you need Removable battery, Micro SD slot then this device is suitable.
N5 has is pros and cons. U get latest S800 processor, direct updates from google, but only 16 or 32GB storage and non removable 2300 mah of N5 is no near to 3140mah of OGP. And LG will MOSTLY update OGP to 4.4 Kitkat by end of this year.
It is easy to flash custom roms on this device, well easier than HTC phones and there is going to be lot of development in future for this device. This device also have OFFICIAL support from Cyanogen mod team.(Correct me if i'm wrong).
For me OGP is better option than most of the other phones out there right now.
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Don't you think that LG will eventually patch the bootloader exploit and end the party?
That's what bothers me about it, because Samdung did basically the same thing recently with Knox.

donalgodon said:
Don't you think that LG will eventually patch the bootloader exploit and end the party?
That's what bothers me about it, because Samdung did basically the same thing recently with Knox.
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with custom roms we don't need official OTA updates anymore plus they're slow with the updates anyway

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with custom roms we don't need official OTA updates anymore plus they're slow with the updates anyway
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Just as long as those features aren't tied to the bootloader, then there's no problem, but if the case of Samdung's Knox bootloaders have illustrated anything, it's that this is always an option.
Without the Knox bootloader, 4.3 update broke Wi-Fi, Sound, etc. It's what pushed me to sell the S4 and be done with Samdung once and for all.

donalgodon said:
Just as long as those features aren't tied to the bootloader, then there's no problem, but if the case of Samdung's Knox bootloaders have illustrated anything, it's that this is always an option.
Without the Knox bootloader, 4.3 update broke Wi-Fi, Sound, etc. It's what pushed me to sell the S4 and be done with Samdung once and for all.
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Well Samdung are floating in the sky because of lots of sales and huge profit (about $10 billion i guess!!) so they don't care about the developer community and moving against it like Apple. Samdung is not apple but they don't understand it. they want to provide security on their devices like Apple does. Thats what they are trying with something called Knox bootloaders. This is one of the reason that kept me away from getting a Note 3. LG has long way to go before they become like Samdung. So i wouldn't worry about it for atleast 2 years! LOL

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Well Samdung are floating in the sky because of lots of sales and huge profit (about $10 billion i guess!!) so they don't care about the developer community and moving against it like Apple. Samdung is not apple but they don't understand it. they want to provide security on their devices like Apple does. Thats what they are trying with something called Knox bootloaders. This is one of the reason that kept me away from getting a Note 3. LG has long way to go before they become like Samdung. So i wouldn't worry about it for atleast 2 years! LOL
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Well, their protection scheme is similar. I forgot what they call it, but it's all the same sort of sham. It releases the corporation from liability for warranty service, regardless of what the issue is, if the "protection" flag is tripped.
I find myself dreaming often about what it would be like if a company (like LG, which is smaller than the competition) threw everything they had behind the Open Source and Development community and just made their devices with folks like us XDA members in mind! How many millions of us are there now? We probably buy more gadgets as a group than any other segment of the global population as a whole, yet we are basically ignored and treated like criminals.

donalgodon said:
I find myself dreaming often about what it would be like if a company (like LG, which is smaller than the competition) threw everything they had behind the Open Source and Development community and just made their devices with folks like us XDA members in mind! How many millions of us are there now? We probably buy more gadgets as a group than any other segment of the global population as a whole, yet we are basically ignored and treated like criminals.
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True!!! But the companies always think about the mass market first who are non-tech people who just buy and use the phone as it is..
The issue is warranty! when the phone is being used for development there is always risk of hard brick unless u know what you are doing with the phone. They don't want people messing their devices themselves and claim warranty for it. That is why the bootloaders are locked and flagged if unlocked for development purposes.
Which device did u decide to buy anyway??

StarkV5 said:
True!!! But the companies always think about the mass market first who are non-tech people who just buy and use the phone as it is..
The issue is warranty! when the phone is being used for development there is always risk of hard brick unless u know what you are doing with the phone. They don't want people messing their devices themselves and claim warranty for it. That is why the bootloaders are locked and flagged if unlocked for development purposes.
Which device did u decide to buy anyway??
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Yeah, that's the reality, but I think there's a situation where companies can say, "Look, here's literally everything you need. All the documentation, sources, drivers, binaries... everything. You can play with your device all you want, but you assume that responsibility if something goes wrong." Then, they ought to make the flashing and modding tools part of the package. Make them robust, and invest in safe flashing systems. Fewer issues as a result.
I don't think it's fair that companies should be made to pay for stupidity, and I accept it as a cost of doing what we all love to do. This is what I thought the "Google Edition" devices were going to be all about, but even there, we still face a situation where so many things aren't provided properly.
I am hunting down a E980. To me, it represents the best value for the money right now. My plan is to use the Loki bootloader exploit, slap CM 10.2 on it and never look back. In fairness, LG's UI is a bit too colorful for my tastes, but it isn't anywhere near as hideous as Samdung's Touchwiz circus clowns on acid abomination.

donalgodon said:
I am hunting down a E980.
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Nice! :good:
I'm sure you will have great time with the device.

donalgodon said:
My only concern is that I don't know if the 980H is the same as the 980.
The 980H is the Panama version, the ROM from which is a popular flash option for this model in a Stock ROM. I'm actually in Panama, and this is where I'll purchase.
What about the root, recovery options? Should I use the one's for the 980? I don't see any for the H variant.
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Can anyone confirm this root method works on US Sprint Note 7?

Hey everyone. I just got my Note 7! My old phone is rooted and I'd like to do that to my new Note. From my understanding, only non-US phones with EXYNOS chipsets can be boot-unlocked/rooted, Qualcomm WONT WORK from what Ive read. So does this method here work? http://www.androidinfotech.com/2016/08/samsung-note-7-sprint-n930p-marshmallow-firmware.html The model numbers are the SAME as mine.

I think you should try it and let us know. I'm sure as hell not going to be the guinea pig.

koolcat7 said:
Hey everyone. I just got my Note 7! My old phone is rooted and I'd like to do that to my new Note. From my understanding, only non-US phones with EXYNOS chipsets can be boot-unlocked/rooted, Qualcomm WONT WORK from what Ive read. So does this method here work? http://www.androidinfotech.com/2016/08/samsung-note-7-sprint-n930p-marshmallow-firmware.html The model numbers are the SAME as mine.
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I don't trust that article any more than a flashing pop up that claims I'm the winner of a million dollar give away. Don't do it. If it's legit, it'll make its way to XDA. Until it's on XDA, don't even think about it.

tgtoys said:
I don't trust that article any more than a flashing pop up that claims I'm the winner of a million dollar give away. Don't do it. If it's legit, it'll make its way to XDA. Until it's on XDA, don't even think about it.
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I found this! Going to try here in a bit, hopefully succeed. http://forum.xda-developers.com/spr.../root-super-leaky-bros-sprint-galaxy-t3447202

Before you jump into rooting your phone, I want to make sure that you understand some of the consequences. The biggest of these for me is tripping Knox and not being able to use Samsung Pay.
EDIT: It says that it doesn't trip Knox. Without a custom recovery it isn't worth it to me, but things are moving in the right direction.

chazglenn3 said:
Before you jump into rooting your phone, I want to make sure that you understand some of the consequences. The biggest of these for me is tripping Knox and not being able to use Samsung Pay.
EDIT: It says that it doesn't trip Knox. Without a custom recovery it isn't worth it to me, but things are moving in the right direction.
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Doesn't trip Knox, STL no Android pay or Samsung pay.
I really miss custom roms (switched to a Verizon Note 5 and now Note 7) but if I can get root, Xposed, and CPU control I'll be ecstatic.

Just so you all know, I tried the Leaky Bros root and it WORKED! My Note 7 runs great and has root. Big thanks to "cruckus" and "freeza" for making this possible! Its a development stock rom build, runs very smooth. http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-note-7/how-to/root-super-leaky-bros-sprint-galaxy-t3447202

S9 worth buying now, or wait?

Now that 1+ has screwed over the 6T with an even bigger design. I've been thinking of going for the S9. I held an S8 in my hand last week and the size is just perfect.
But i'm wondering about root. If i'm understanding it correctly, one should buy the exynos version as there's no root for the sd version, right?
Are there downsides to rooting that havne't been fixed yet?

If you want to root then forget about the US Snapdragon version. If done correctly I don't think you would run into many problems with the Exynos phone. I would look through this forum and read the posts that may show any problems you may face. You have to do a bit of wading to get through some but there's some good info here and plenty of help available.

Tel864 said:
If you want to root then forget about the US Snapdragon version. If done correctly I don't think you would run into many problems with the Exynos phone. I would look through this forum and read the posts that may show any problems you may face. You have to do a bit of wading to get through some but there's some good info here and plenty of help available.
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And does the s9 have a strong developer community?

fusk said:
And does the s9 have a strong developer community?
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Have a look through the Exynos dev forums

So, S9 doesn't have any DRM features you lose when rooting?
Also, i don't know if the dev community is strong by looking at the dev forums.

fusk said:
So, S9 doesn't have any DRM features you lose when rooting?
Also, i don't know if the dev community is strong by looking at the dev forums.
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Read.

Oel said:
Read.
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I would advise against unless you get some kind of great deal. The phone is decent nothing overley better than anything else, and the US versions are lock down tight, other versions seem to be full of hassles.

I am very impressed with the s9!( Exynos version)
I am facing some issues when running multiple apps together I mean Spotify facebook Instagram messenger snapchat and browsing the same time with 3 tabs there is some lag which is for a few seconds only
i barely see my s9 freeze but it happened
(at least is faster than my old pixel xl- I am never gonna left Samsung for google ..the optimization on a battery is better on my s9 the camera the AMOLED screen and useful futures wich you gonna get on the next Android version on stock )
PS go for it, if you using the phone all day long with heavy tasks take the s9 plus with 6 GB ram is gonna be worth it!

mc_365 said:
I would advise against unless you get some kind of great deal. The phone is decent nothing overley better than anything else, and the US versions are lock down tight, other versions seem to be full of hassles.
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It is very expensive, but i've found deals for around 555$, and that's for the exynos version. SD isn't available here.

Rooting s20+ or not

How many guys have rooted their s20+?
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lol

I bought my Exynos S20 specifically because I was planning to root it, and I have never owned an Android phone that was rootable without rooting it. I think this may be my first. Software is great, features are great, and I don't want to break Samsung Pay because MST is ridiculously useful.

I have the S20+ 5G D/S and like many others I've rooted every Samsung phone I've ever owned. But until a custom recovery comes along and a decent Rom and Kernel. I'll stay non rooted. Its not to bad if I'm honest.

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and I don't want to break Samsung Pay because MST is ridiculously useful.
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which region are you in that MST works on Samsung pay?

whatsisnametake2 said:
which region are you in that MST works on Samsung pay?
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US on 985F

TheNetwork said:
I bought my Exynos S20 specifically because I was planning to root it, and I have never owned an Android phone that was rootable without rooting it. I think this may be my first. Software is great, features are great, and I don't want to break Samsung Pay because MST is ridiculously useful.
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US on 985F
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in the UK we don't have MST with Samsung pay, so there's not much incentive to use it over Google pay, which I find more transparent in daily use.

Yeah I would have never used phone pay apps if it weren't for MST honestly, so few places here have even google or apple pay, it's basically pointless to take the time to look and see if you should pull your phone or credit card out, it was much faster and simpler to just pull your credit card out and assume no one had the NFC paystations.

here in the UK, since I started using Google pay a few years ago, I've literally never not been able to use it.

Google is a one-stop shop that liked to store everything we own... password and financial information as well... one good hack will have access to all of that data... which is why as a rule of thumb, i dont like saving my passwords that allow access to say, my bank.. its in my head.. thats it.. not stored anywhere... and google pay and the such was disabled when I rooted my s8... and going to the s20+ soon, these pay features do not interest me because I and many others here know how easy it is to hack and get into those apps. I will not use them for this reason... too much information stored in any 1 location is just asking for trouble... and what happens when someone clones your phone and starts using your pay app?
But I dont wanna get too far off subject... right now, you can only root an Exynox and it blows their security fuse in the process... better than their old knox I guess for Samsung, but sucks for those who will never try to open their phone... maybe someone will find a work around for it.... But we can upload new roms on a SnapDragon I hear?!? Its the bloatware that is of major concern to me and if we can flash a new rom and get rid of it... thats something... I dont really see any ROMS out for either phone... my s8 is a Exynox SM950F...
So do I order an Exynox that I can unlock again, or is someone using this time stuck in your house to root the Snapdragon and start making roms?

Question Unable to Unlock Bootloader. What Phone Should I Switch to?

I have the UK Exynos variant (SM-S901B) of the S22. I have tried for about 2 weeks everything I've found about how to get the OEM Unlock option to appear, and nothing has worked. I've played with the dates, reflashed the stock ROM, and even actually waiting 8 whole days with the phone powered on the whole time. Nada.
To be clear, I can see the OEM Unlock option if I go into Developer Options immediately upon boot. I can then toggle and untoggle it all I like, but the option then disappears (if I back out and then return into Developer Options, OEM Unlock is gone). Attempting to unlock the bootloader fails regardless. Unless anyone has any other ideas, I've given up on being able to root this phone.
My question is if I sell the S22, what phone should I get instead? People don't seem to be as happy as I had expected with the Pixel 6 Pro. Any other suggestions for a new phone? The going rate on Swappa for a mint condition S22 is about $550. I don't want to put any more money into it. Must be rootable!

I found another thread with a UK variant having this issue in June.
Link here: Unable to unlock bootloader Samsung Galaxy S22 SM-S901B/DS
Yuna said:
> "Custom binary (VBMETA) blocked due to remaining installment balance"
That's seems like another layer of protection by Samsung, so that you first pay off the loan for the phone, and then you can root it.
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At the current last post of the thread dated Jul 21, 2022, the OP is still stuck.

post-mortem said:
My question is if I sell the S22, what phone should I get instead? People don't seem to be as happy as I had expected with the Pixel 6 Pro. Any other suggestions for a new phone? The going rate on Swappa for a mint condition S22 is about $550. I don't want to put any more money into it. Must be rootable!
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The Pixel 6 Pro is not nearly as buggy or awful as people would have you believe.
Remember, the vast majority of online comments and reviews are by hardcore fans expecting perfection OR midwits who think they're really tech savvy and aren't.
If you can actually get $550 for you S22 right now, DON'T HESITATE. Do it while the value is great.
The worst case scenario with a Pixel 6 is that you will have a new one that you can use to immediately trade-in for high value at Pixel 7 launch or with the S23 series if you want to try that.

vonDubenshire said:
If you can actually get $550 for you S22 right now, DON'T HESITATE. Do it while the value is great.
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I saw that thread, and it took away much of the hope I had. I also read reports that installing Android 12 made people lose the ability to root. I think Samsung must have done something evil to us.
I'll be upgrading from an OG Pixel, so I'll probably be happy with another Pixel. I hadn't used Odin since my SGS3, and I'd really rather stick to vanilla Android. It's so much easier to flash.
God, if only I had known! NIB S22's are going for over $800 on Swappa.

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I saw that thread, and it took away much of the hope I had. I also read reports that installing Android 12 made people lose the ability to root. I think Samsung must have done something evil to us.
I'll be upgrading from an OG Pixel, so I'll probably be happy with another Pixel. I hadn't used Odin since my SGS3, and I'd really rather stick to vanilla Android. It's so much easier to flash.
God, if only I had known! NIB S22's are going for over $800 on Swappa.
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Gonna DM you!