Anyone care to guess how many Galaxy S20 Model's you have to chose from? It's 27 which is ridiculous and that number doesn't include all the separate Carrier Branded devices! Just review some Question and Answer Threads and it is clear Samsung has gone rogue. What's the driving force for this vast array of devices within the same Model Line? That's easy to answer, competition and profits.
First one needs to settle on an SoC, Exynos or Snapdragon? Since Samsung has to pay a licensing fee to Qualcomm for Snapdragon powered variants they stick with their homegrown chip (Exynos) whenever possible, which saves them millions of dollars every year. Up until lately it was no big deal, the Exynos SoC was widely praised, mainly because the bootloader was unlocked and it's processing speeds. The last couple of years haven't been so kind for Exynos. The main fault falls squarely on Samsung, they tried to compete with iPhone benchmarks by increasing the speed on Exynos's Single Core Processor, without addressing the side effects, overheating and battery drain. Not only has this frustrated many users, calls for change are being made by major Samsung shareholders.
So now that the word is out, many users in regions where the Exynos variant is dominant are purchasing Snapdragon devices and hoping they will have access to all the features their Local Service Provider offers. So what do we end up with? In a nutshell, a lot of frustration. Will this firmware work, should I try to modify my CSC, can I enable eSIM, will my 5G work, will I have VoLTE or WiFi Calling, how about Carrier Aggeration, Carrier Bands and what about Updates? In many cases you won't know what works until you try, which in some cases doesn't solve the original issues and actually makes matters worse. Then throw in Carrier locked or unlocked devices, locked or unlocked bootloaders, bloatware, warranties and the list goes on and on and on.
It's great we have resources here for help but it's also very obvious there should be solutions at the very top, Samsung needs to reboot!
Yip Exy is not as great, but still plenty good, I have the S20+ and have no overheating or battery drain, I get 7 odd hours SoT and 60 to 70 hrs between charges, I don't do gaming though, which may or may not be an issue, sure not the 10 hrs SoT or 90 odd hours between charges that my Huawei Mate 20 Pro gave, and the Huawei cameras are just way better, but the Samsung UI is more polished, and, as a package the S20 is tough to beat imho.
Jostian said:
Yip Exy is not as great, but still plenty good, I have the S20+ and have no overheating or battery drain, I get 7 odd hours SoT and 60 to 70 hrs between charges, I don't do gaming though, which may or may not be an issue, sure not the 10 hrs SoT or 90 odd hours between charges that my Huawei Mate 20 Pro gave, and the Huawei cameras are just way better, but the Samsung UI is more polished, and, as a package the S20 is tough to beat imho.
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The Exynos device is a decent smartphone but the chip needs to be redesigned or replaced. The problem isn't just Exynos, it's Samsung. They make very good smartphone's but they're all over the board with way too many models. Look at iPhone, Pixel and Huawei, they sell millions of devices without anywhere near the number of variants.
Samsung has entered into an alliance with AMD. Rumor has it a Radeon CPU powered Galaxy device could arrive in 2021. This suggests Samsung may want to move beyond Exynos chipsets and focus their in-house manufacturing efforts on memory chips since they already have a major slice of the memory chip market. According to recent benchmarks the Radeon CPU is 2.5 times faster than the fastest android chipset on the market.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...set-update-galaxy-s20-smartphone-upgrade/amp/
Their biggest hurdle is with Qualcomm. A federal court in the US has ruled Qualcomm must change it's business practices and renegotiate the license agreement it has with Samsung. Once that's been settled we may see a uniform SoC in the Galaxy lineup.
varcor said:
Anyone care to guess how many Galaxy S20 Model's you have to chose from? It's 27 which is ridiculous and that number doesn't include all the separate Carrier Branded devices! Just review some Question and Answer Threads and it is clear Samsung has gone rogue. What's the driving force for this vast array of devices within the same Model Line? That's easy to answer, competition and profits.
First one needs to settle on an SoC, Exynos or Snapdragon? Since Samsung has to pay a licensing fee to Qualcomm for Snapdragon powered variants they stick with their homegrown chip (Exynos) whenever possible, which saves them millions of dollars every year. Up until lately it was no big deal, the Exynos SoC was widely praised, mainly because the bootloader was unlocked and it's processing speeds. The last couple of years haven't been so kind for Exynos. The main fault falls squarely on Samsung, they tried to compete with iPhone benchmarks by increasing the speed on Exynos's Single Core Processor, without addressing the side effects, overheating and battery drain. Not only has this frustrated many users, calls for change are being made by major Samsung shareholders.
So now that the word is out, many users in regions where the Exynos variant is dominant are purchasing Snapdragon devices and hoping they will have access to all the features their Local Service Provider offers. So what do we end up with? In a nutshell, a lot of frustration. Will this firmware work, should I try to modify my CSC, can I enable eSIM, will my 5G work, will I have VoLTE or WiFi Calling, how about Carrier Aggeration, Carrier Bands and what about Updates? In many cases you won't know what works until you try, which in some cases doesn't solve the original issues and actually makes matters worse. Then throw in Carrier locked or unlocked devices, locked or unlocked bootloaders, bloatware, warranties and the list goes on and on and on.
It's great we have resources here for help but it's also very obvious there should be solutions at the very top, Samsung needs to reboot!
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i doubt its competition and prices.. i feel its more of a regional/carrier customization thing.. in theory the exynos models are all the same and snap models r all the same so not sure how this changes their profitability much, they just make the phone then brand it
i for one am all for it.. ppl shoukd research and with plenty options creates more of a selection that ppl can choose from
I have some S20 models supported Carrier Aggregation Combinations here: https://cacombos.com . Exynos models list is incomplete because have to test many networks to complete list. If you have Samsung device, please share your phone modem log so i can complete list: https://mt-tech.fi/en/how-to-get-4g...ions-from-your-android-phone/#Samsung_Devices .
One important think know: Exynos models doesn't support Carrier Aggregation combinations used in US and vise versa. Asiant variant Qualcomm may work fine in Europe but lack maybe combinations support with B20 example. Only way to confirm supported combinations are from modem log because Samsung doesn't list these in device specs.
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My old phone broke and I had to run out and get a new one on short notice. I went with the Galaxy S4 from a T-Mobile store (SGH-M919).
I am happy with the phone overall, but I place great importance on getting the best value (I don't want to pay the same money for an inferior product). After doing some research, I've found the "8-core" GT-I9500 available on Amazon for roughly the same price. It seems that the Exynos version is more powerful and will have better battery life (compared in this video). The drawback, of course, is that it doesn't have LTE support (although it should work on HSPA).
In addition, now there's the "nexus" version with an unlocked bootloader coming down the pike. My previous phone also had stock Android (HTC Desire-Z / T-mobile G2), and I was extremely happy with it, especially the speed of updates and the fact that I was always getting new features OTA.
So, should I keep the version I have, or get another one and return this phone?
I want to make sure I'm getting the best experience, would giving up LTE support slow down my internet noticeably? Or is T-Mobile HSPA fast enough?
Any difference between the versions if I'm traveling internationally (I can unlock the T-mobile version after 60 days, so that's not an issue, I'm talking about band support, particularly in China)
Should I even consider the stock android / Google version? If I keep the one I have, I plan to root it and will probably use a custom ROM, and it seems there are plenty around for this version, so is the Google unlocked bootloader even an advantage? (only indication it is was is some of the posts in this thread, indicating that the Google version will get updates faster but that the S4's advanced sensors won't work on it). Then again it's also speculated they have the same hardware, so if that's true I could just flash my phone to the Google version and there would be no difference.
Note: I'm not looking to change to another model of phone besides the Galaxy S4. The HTC One is less powerful, has no SD support, and a non-replacable battery, otherwise I would have chosen it.
Rumor has it, that the "nexus" version, is based off the SGH-M919. Just the software is different. So in theory, once the nexus version drops, the modders would be able to reverse engineer the software and make it so that we can flash it onto the T-Mobile version. I'm not sure about having the 8-core GT-I9500. People are saying it isn't truly an octacore phone, nor will we ever need all the cores active at the same time.
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The octa core is two quad core chips put together. I highly doubt it's THAT much better than ours. I personally have no issues with mine. Honestly, I think you're getting more with the T-Mobile variant. You can unlock it and use it on any GSM carrier. I would keep what you have. This phone rocks!
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The octa core is two quad core chips put together. I highly doubt it's THAT much better than ours. I personally have no issues with mine. Honestly, I think you're getting more with the T-Mobile variant. You can unlock it and use it on any GSM carrier. I would keep what you have. This phone rocks!
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Hi elsbb,
How can i understand that my M919 is locked?
I put my diffrent carrier SIM (AVEA) its not asking unlock code.
Thanks for your help...
1) No your browsing wont be slowed down significantly, but not a feature I would personally give up
2) Not that Im aware of, however the T-Mobile variant I think has better band support overall, cannot remember 100% over the top of my head
3) Not really, its rumored to be hardware wise the same as the T-Mo variant.....Also the T-Mo variant which you have is bootloader unlocked already, not sure why you put that as strong point for the Stock Android variant?
Overall I would say stick with what you have, support wise your better off than the international variant (if your into custom roms, development should be stronger overall for the US variants, And the Google version offers nothing over what you can get with 10 min of your time with the phone you have currently.
-W.Feather
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I want to make sure I'm getting the best experience, would giving up LTE support slow down my internet noticeably? Or is T-Mobile HSPA fast enough?
Any difference between the versions if I'm traveling internationally (I can unlock the T-mobile version after 60 days, so that's not an issue, I'm talking about band support, particularly in China)
Should I even consider the stock android / Google version? If I keep the one I have, I plan to root it and will probably use a custom ROM, and it seems there are plenty around for this version, so is the Google unlocked bootloader even an advantage? (only indication it is was is some of the posts in this thread, indicating that the Google version will get updates faster but that the S4's advanced sensors won't work on it). Then again it's also speculated they have the same hardware, so if that's true I could just flash my phone to the Google version and there would be no difference.
Note: I'm not looking to change to another model of phone besides the Galaxy S4. The HTC One is less powerful, has no SD support, and a non-replacable battery, otherwise I would have chosen it.
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Thanks everyone who responded for the useful info. I now feel confident about keeping the M919. It's not worth giving up LTE for the tiny improvement in performance (and less custom ROM support) of the quad core, and since the M919 has an unlocked bootloader already, I don't think there's any reason to get the Google version.
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Hi elsbb,
How can i understand that my M919 is locked?
I put my diffrent carrier SIM (AVEA) its not asking unlock code.
Thanks for your help...
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I can't personally confirm it, but this thread may have the info you're looking for.
If you have inserted another carriers sim (that is not your own), and it still functions with data, voice, and text, it is sim unlocked.
skyblue34 said:
Hi elsbb,
How can i understand that my M919 is locked?
I put my diffrent carrier SIM (AVEA) its not asking unlock code.
Thanks for your help...
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The performance gains would be little if any in real world usage, battery life would be better by a small amount IIRC, however I am personally able to go two days or more with low usage, or a day without issues with heavy streaming and ~3hr screen on time, YMMV
-W.Feather
Just Another User said:
Thanks everyone who responded for the useful info. I now feel confident about keeping the M919. It's not worth giving up LTE for the tiny improvement in performance (and less custom ROM support) of the quad core, and since the M919 has an unlocked bootloader already, I don't think there's any reason to get the Google version.
I can't personally confirm it, but this thread may have the info you're looking for.
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I have two primary uses for the tablet in question:
1. I will be using it as a GPS navigation unit on my motorcycle. And it will be used to play music thru my motorcycle's speakers.
*I will most likely be using the headphone jack, or possibly some kind of usb audio out / charger (if I can find such a product) to send audio to an amplifier on the motorcycle. Or possibly via bluetooth.
2. When not on the bike I will be using it mostly for watching videos on it, via plex, netflix, memory card, etc.
Questions:
Network/ Internet connectivity:
I live in Canada B.C.
At first I only cared about a basic WiFi only note 8.0, but now I'm thinking I might be inclined to put on a network in the future, and would like to keep that door open(maybe).
1. If I import a USA note (AT&T):
a. will it work on our networks, fido/rogers/bell/etc
b. I will have to root it and flash it with a custom rom to do that right? and if that is true, will I notice any complications in the future?
Note 8.0 vs tab4 pro
I have already done a bit of research into this but thought I would ask a bit on the subject
The tab4 pro looks overall better, but also more expensive.
!. The only spec difference that I would really care about is the higher resolution screen that the tab4 has. would any one say it's a major difference in reality?
2. Are there any other notable feature that the tab4 has over the 8.0 that I might be overlooking?
Thank you for your help. any amount input is welcome.
Are you talking about the tab pro 8.4 or a tab 4 8.0? I really like the 8.4 tab pro. The screen is amazing on it but I'm not going to count my note 8.0 out either as the picture quality has been plenty satisfying to me. The tab pro has the newer faster processor with a far better gpu. Had I not gotten my note at such a cheap price I would have gotten the tab pro 8.4. That being said I think that if you find a really cheap price on the note 8.0 it's worth it. I'm not disappointed with mine at all. Far as getting an AT&T branded note you'd probably have to sim unlock the device to use it on a Canadian network.
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Are you talking about the tab pro 8.4 or a tab 4 8.0? I really like the 8.4 tab pro. The screen is amazing on it but I'm not going to count my note 8.0 out either as the picture quality has been plenty satisfying to me. The tab pro has the newer faster processor with a far better gpu. Had I not gotten my note at such a cheap price I would have gotten the tab pro 8.4. That being said I think that if you find a really cheap price on the note 8.0 it's worth it. I'm not disappointed with mine at all. Far as getting an AT&T branded note you'd probably have to sim unlock the device to use it on a Canadian network.
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I was referring to the 8.4tab and 8.0 note.
You remind me about my nature, bang for the buck, is probably the biggest factor.
I guess it will come down to which ever one I can save the most on, relatively.
I find when entering the $300+ for a tablet, I get in the zone for I might as well upgrade my laptop instead.
Thanks for the reply.
Not sure about GPS other than it works fine on Wi-Fi.
Video decode in my experience is good, it can generally play most Blu-Ray video fine via MakeMKV (Basically decrypt and remux into Matroska). YMMV with subtitles and audios and third party apps. It's not as powerful as a Snapdragon 800 but very nice (and has more codec support than my Nexus 5 when both are compared at stock).
Can't say anything about USB audio out as I've never dealt with that.
If you only care about HSPA+ service anything supporting 1900 / 850 Mhz will work and as far as I know all cellular ready models support those. I don't know about the LTE bands up there. Unlike us in the USA, Canada pretty much uses the same frequencies for all the carriers.
If you get the AT&T model you will have to get it SIM unlocked by AT&T before hand. I am not sure that can be done from Canada rather than while on AT&T's network as I've never tried it. Typically you have to stick in a SIM from another carrier and enter a code. On T-Mobile with my Galaxy S3 it took a few weeks to get the code via e-mail after supplying my data via phone; YMMV. You would want to SIM unlock before rootinng; bootloader unlock is different than SIM unlock; and custom ROM's don't SIM unlock your device.
If you want 8" and a S-Pen you have no options. Only other alternative would be an Tegra Note 7; I believe they've started making an LTE model but I'm not sure. Personally if you don't want the pen, I'd go with the Galaxy Tab 8.4 Pro because it's got a more powerful processor and a higher resolution panel. If it's all the same to you by all means save money. The Note 8 is likely at it's end of retail life pending a newer version so prices are going down (at least in the USA they have; my fiancee got hers in Alberta last month for $349 and I think they're now $329 here in Georgia).
Feature wise is probably improved MultiWindow mode and anything you like about Samsung's 4.4 tabs that isn't available on 4.1/4.2 era devices like the Note 8. I'm not sure what functionality we're getting in our 4.4 update (AFAIK 3G and Wi-Fi, not AT&T model).
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Not sure about GPS other than it works fine on Wi-Fi.
Video decode in my experience is good, it can generally play most Blu-Ray video fine via MakeMKV (Basically decrypt and remux into Matroska). YMMV with subtitles and audios and third party apps. It's not as powerful as a Snapdragon 800 but very nice (and has more codec support than my Nexus 5 when both are compared at stock).
Can't say anything about USB audio out as I've never dealt with that.
If you only care about HSPA+ service anything supporting 1900 / 850 Mhz will work and as far as I know all cellular ready models support those. I don't know about the LTE bands up there. Unlike us in the USA, Canada pretty much uses the same frequencies for all the carriers.
If you get the AT&T model you will have to get it SIM unlocked by AT&T before hand. I am not sure that can be done from Canada rather than while on AT&T's network as I've never tried it. Typically you have to stick in a SIM from another carrier and enter a code. On T-Mobile with my Galaxy S3 it took a few weeks to get the code via e-mail after supplying my data via phone; YMMV. You would want to SIM unlock before rootinng; bootloader unlock is different than SIM unlock; and custom ROM's don't SIM unlock your device.
If you want 8" and a S-Pen you have no options. Only other alternative would be an Tegra Note 7; I believe they've started making an LTE model but I'm not sure. Personally if you don't want the pen, I'd go with the Galaxy Tab 8.4 Pro because it's got a more powerful processor and a higher resolution panel. If it's all the same to you by all means save money. The Note 8 is likely at it's end of retail life pending a newer version so prices are going down (at least in the USA they have; my fiancee got hers in Alberta last month for $349 and I think they're now $329 here in Georgia).
Feature wise is probably improved MultiWindow mode and anything you like about Samsung's 4.4 tabs that isn't available on 4.1/4.2 era devices like the Note 8. I'm not sure what functionality we're getting in our 4.4 update (AFAIK 3G and Wi-Fi, not AT&T model).
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A funny thing happened to me last night.
For the longest time I was under the impression that NON-RT Windows tablets were quite expensive and quite large. Then I find out that there are 8inch full version windows tablets with decent specs and a reasonable prices.
So in short now i'm after a windows 8 tablet, the lenovo miix 2 and thinkpad 8 being my first choices.
Edwii said:
A funny thing happened to me last night.
For the longest time I was under the impression that NON-RT Windows tablets were quite expensive and quite large. Then I find out that there are 8inch full version windows tablets with decent specs and a reasonable prices.
So in short now i'm after a windows 8 tablet, the lenovo miix 2 and thinkpad 8 being my first choices.
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Venue Pro 8.0 would be my choice.
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Venue Pro 8.0 would be my choice.
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I had one for a day before I returned it.
First of all it has no GPS, so right from the start it got eliminated from my options.
Secondly it's speaker is TERRIBLE, even at full volume It was barley audible in a quite room. With my Air conditioner on i couldn't even listen to a movie. I don;t know if the lenovo has better audio but can't be much worse if anything.
I have no idea why anyone on xda site or other development places would by snapdragon. I just bought s8 and learned that they are no cuctom roms no kernels since bootloader for north america is locked due to corporate greed and lack of right regulation other than self lobbing corruption. (normal gov should slap companies for locking it should be prohibited) and i feel that i was spat in the face. Same way just can buy bloody snobbish applephone and what's the difference. Don't buy snaprdagon, buy from another location for exynos or buy another phone. Don't let them spit in your face. Coz they will continue to do so.
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I have no idea why anyone on xda site or other development places would by snapdragon. I just bought s8 and learned that they are no cuctom roms no kernels since bootloader for north america is locked due to corporate greed and lack of right regulation other than self lobbing corruption. (normal gov should slap companies for locking it should be prohibited) and i feel that i was spat in the face. Same way just can buy bloody snobbish applephone and what's the difference. Don't buy snaprdagon, buy from another location for exynos or buy another phone. Don't let them spit in your face. Coz they will continue to do so.
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Not that i disagree with you but you said you dont understand why anyone would buy a snapdragon but you yourself bought one lol?
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force70 said:
Not that i disagree with you but you said you dont understand why anyone would buy a snapdragon but you yourself bought one lol?
sent from my Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
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I assumed that it was for all s8's. that there will be at least a few for snapdragons and didn't check well before i buy, i own s7e exynos and was having much confidence in samsung, but they are as a leaf that bends to every wind that blows on them. I also have tab s2 810. exynos while only snapdragon t813 version of it gets new development only. unpredictable. I would have bout snapdragon only if it was dirt cheap compared to exynos dirt cheap.
I was eyeing unlocked s9 for a while but then i realized if i can't get custom rom in a year after warranty ends and i can't take full control of my phone. Scumsung will not keep updating this phone indefinitely. i can't put latest lineage on it, so WTF am i going to do with it. I already have one motorola rooted lineage phone that i can probably put pie based lineage on it when it becomes available. Excellent support here. My last scumsung phone was galaxy s3 which i rooted and custom rommed. No problems. I must've gone throught 7-8 verizon locked bootloader phones which i could not root and had to get rid of. This is seriously insane. I can't understand why cripple such flagship in us&a. Of course i won't touch s9 or any future scumsung phone which will have permanently locked bl. Same for verizon or any others. Motorola, Huawei don't cripple their phones. Will be looking into those.
Hi guys,
I live in Europe(Croatia) where only the exynos version of Note 10+ is available. I am looking for a new phone and my wish number 1 is Note 10+, but the snapdragon variant.
If I decide to import it from somewhere, will it work here? I am even ready to risk and go without a warranty.
I was googling it, but find contradictory information. So I decided it is better if I open a new thread for it.
There are a lot of questions I want to ask
What version to import? Will I receive software updates? Will I have all network bands? What about regional unlock?
Thank you.
I think you won't have any problem provided you import the unlocked international version (if there is one where you want to import from).
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Thx, but which one of these(SM-N975F (Europe); SM-N975F/DS (Global); SM-N975U (USA); SM-N975U1 (USA unlocked); SM-N975W (Canada); SM-N9750/DS (LATAM, Brazil, China); SM-N975N (South Korea)) is unlocked international version?
If you are referring to global SM-N975F/DS, it also has exynos: https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note10+-9732.php#sm-n975f-ds
You'll find all Note 10+ available models here: https://www.phonemore.com/models/samsung/galaxy-note-10-plus/
Based on SAMMOBILE site, which has all firmwares for all Note 10+ models (https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-note-10-plus/firmware/#SM-N975U1), I understand that, in fact, any of the models can be locked to a certain cellular network or unlocked. So the unlocked version should be international also. The only thing that will make a difference between same Note 10+ model sold in different countries is the ability to record phone calls, which is restricted in some countries. Regarding firmware updates, there should not be any problem, you will only get the updates when they are officially released for the country you bought the phone from.
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Really don't care about phone calls recording...I just want a functional phone.
Do you have any suggestions on where to buy it? EDIT: preferably from Europe
third party sellers are the only way you will get a snapdragon phone in europe, the entire european market is on Exynos, so you would either have to find a site willing to export to your country or a local seller who imports the phones. either way it won't be from a first party phone shop.
then if you do import you have to watch the sim unlocking rules, as the european phones need to use a european sim for a short period before unlocking to work for other countries, so buying from a reseller who has already done the network unlock meaning you will always be getting an opened box devices with no guarantee it's new and likely no warranty.
I bought a Snapdragon version N9750 on Ebay, from a seller in Europe. It's working great for me, I live in Sweden. Updates are working, but for example the 2.1 update that have rolled out to Exynos devices still haven't come to my device. But I'm not to stressed over updates anymore
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I bought a Snapdragon version N9750 on Ebay, from a seller in Europe. It's working great for me, I live in Sweden. Updates are working, but for example the 2.1 update that have rolled out to Exynos devices still haven't come to my device. But I'm not to stressed over updates anymore
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How did you get rid of region lock? Or it came in the open box already unlocked?
I'm sorry, I do not have any suggestions. Belimawr said it all. I'm just not sure about what he said regarding the need to use a phone bought in Europe, for the first few days, with an european simcard, in order to have it unlocked. In the days of Note 4, I bought one in Germany (me living in Israel), during a trip, and use it without a simcard, for navigation only or at home on wifi. I never had a local simcard and I bought it (in a big shop) as international version. Never had problems with it, it was unlocked from the beginning. There are many risks you have to take when ordering online, from unknown sources. What's so bad with the Exynos? I have it and I'm very pleased with it.
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Take a look at this thread:
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How did you get rid of region lock? Or it came in the open box already unlocked?
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It came in the box already unlocked :good:
uhi711 said:
Belimawr said it all. I'm just not sure about what he said regarding the need to use a phone bought in Europe, for the first few days, with an european simcard, in order to have it unlocked.
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https://www.coolblue.nl/en/advice/samsung-region-lock-what-is-it-and-how-do-you-get-rid-of-it.html
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What's so bad with the Exynos? I have it and I'm very pleased with it.
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Well, there are many resources on the internet that saying Exynos is inferior in lot of categories.
I don't care if it has slightly inferior CPU speed because it is enough for my needs. I also don't care it is much inferior in GPU speed because I don't play graphic intensive games. I can also live with a slightly inferior camera.
But what I do care is an inferior signal and battery life(bigger standby battery drain, bigger energy consumption for the same workload).
yeah that link posted above is what I Was talking about with unlocking, it isn't much to unlock the "unlocked" phones but it can be a problem if it comes to you brand new and still with the lock in place as you would then need to source a way of doing the time in calls with the sim from the intended region, it's why most imports come open box as they do the phone call before exporting it making the phone technically second hand and likely voiding any warranty directly from Samsung so you would be reliant on the person who sent you the phone. there is also stories about of firms like Samsung not doing repairs on devices outside of their intended regions so any fault would likely need a third party repairer as well.
I've been using the Exynos since it came out and honestly even under above average use I easy get a day out of the battery and as far as performance goes, it does everything I need it to. the big problem with the Exynos Vs SD argument is it goes by benchmarks on phones and chances are in the real world those difference will be that small people wont even notice them under general use. it's always been a problem with technology people look at benchmark numbers and in the real world they generally mean very little as they are done under lab conditions and not actual usage or with devices that have been used day in and day out, it is on clean devices fresh out of the box with little bulk, 12 month down the road the numbers could shift but in truth unless you sit the 2 side by side you are unlikely to actually notice the difference.
personally for me it's easier to just buy the local one as in day to day use you are gaining nothing by taking the extra steps to get one from a different region unless you are specifically going for something like dual sim that might not be in your region or if you are picking the device up cheaper.
Regarding the region lock, if this would be your case, looks like there is an other solution to unlock it, if using a local sim for 5 minutes isn't possible.
Take a look here: https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-Note9/Regional-lock/td-p/650891
Or here: https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5...5G/Regional-Lock-Samsung-10-Note/td-p/1504884
Or here:
https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5...10-5G/European-SIM-card-only-S10/td-p/1296078
So, my point is that if you intend to buy your phone from an european country, then you shouldn't have any region lock problem. In my opinion, the only thing that could make me import a phone from an other country by online ordering would be a big difference in price. But also in this case I would think twice because we should not forget the customs taxes and the shipping fees.
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Check on Wonda Mobile. They have a really good reputation and have the snapdragon version available. It looks like all the 5G versions are sold out but they have the non 5G versions at very good prices too.
I live in Russia and use the Hong Kong version and I still haven’t received a firmware update to 2.1, do you have any update information? Thank you in advance
Scripitiscrip said:
I live in Russia and use the Hong Kong version and I still haven’t received a firmware update to 2.1, do you have any update information? Thank you in advance
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I don't think Samsung has released it yet. I'm still waiting for mine as well, and don't see anything official yet:
https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-N9750/TGY/doc.html
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Check on Wonda Mobile. They have a really good reputation and have the snapdragon version available. It looks like all the 5G versions are sold out but they have the non 5G versions at very good prices too.
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Thx, seems they have very good trustpilot score. I might go for it.
Don't need 5G here atm anyway.
Samsung is slower with updating the Snapdragon versions, always a few weeks after the Exynos versions
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I've been using the Exynos since it came out and honestly even under above average use I easy get a day out of the battery and as far as performance goes, it does everything I need it to. the big problem with the Exynos Vs SD argument is it goes by benchmarks on phones and chances are in the real world those difference will be that small people wont even notice them under general use. it's always been a problem with technology people look at benchmark numbers and in the real world they generally mean very little as they are done under lab conditions and not actual usage or with devices that have been used day in and day out, it is on clean devices fresh out of the box with little bulk, 12 month down the road the numbers could shift but in truth unless you sit the 2 side by side you are unlikely to actually notice the difference.
personally for me it's easier to just buy the local one as in day to day use you are gaining nothing by taking the extra steps to get one from a different region unless you are specifically going for something like dual sim that might not be in your region or if you are picking the device up cheaper.
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The SD variant is better in terms of battery efficiency which makes another significant difference that affects the daily use of any owner if we ignore the better overall performance.
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The SD variant is better in terms of battery efficiency which makes another significant difference that affects the daily use of any owner if we ignore the better overall performance.
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I easy get a full day out of it and can sit several hours straight gaming on the phone, the size of the battery unless you are being kept alive by looking at the screen it will get you through a day and I honestly doubt the difference is anything substantial enough to make a difference (you aren't getting 2 days without really light use)
Hi. Hope everyone is doing well here in 2022! First forgive me for any information I lack. I'm just an old guy who prefers to buy cash "new" older top model Notes for a discount because it works for me. Since now the option for the US is between being able to root vs carrier aggregation, having my phone reliable for communication is top priority for me so Snapdragon it is...unfortunately. Saying that, I currently have a Note 8 U1 that still working flawlessly and with CCSWE I'm able to disable what I consider bloatware and apps that I don't use daily and that gives me fantastic battery life even 2 years in. Obviously having the U1 firmware helps not having T-Mobile's crapware installed, including that bright-ass annoying splash logo at boot-up...and that's what I'm getting at.
I would like to purchase a Note10+ 5G (N976U) but I noticed they don't have a U1 version nor know if there is an U1 firmware that could be Odin into it. Again, i would love to avoid any extra bloatware. My other option would be buying a N975U1 but I would be missing the 5G benefit. I'm also unsure if at this moment here in my location (Tucson, AZ, USA) having a 5G enabled phone is a huge improvement for data speeds, especially for someone who gets along well streaming Netflix at 4G LTE (the biggest strain I would put on a phone nowadays). I usually keep my phones for 2 years so I would have to be committed for a 5G...less phone for that time. At last, I emailed the developer of CCSWE and was told it works with the Note 10+, but with Android 11 in it I'm unsure. I would love to someone to chime in on this also. I would appreciate any info and opinions on this. Thank you very much and have a great one!