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Getting a new battery for your Universal - a guide

I've just purchased my THIRD extended battery for my MDA PRO, and I have learned quite a lot over the past few years so I will share some of this information with you, in the form of a buyer's guide to getting a new battery for your HTC Universal.
Types
There are THREE different physical types of replacement battery (PU16A) available for the HTC Universal. These are:
Standard (original) type battery. These are the same size as the battery that came with your Universal when you originally purchased it, so they do not increase the size or weight of your device and do not need a new back cover. They vary in rated capacity from 1600 to 1750mAh, and are the cheapest to buy.
Extended battery. There are 3 or 4 different brands of this type floating around, and they vary in rated capacity from 3150 to 3800mAh. At the moment the 3150mAh 'Cameron Sino' brand is by far the most widely available on eBay. These are also cheap, and actually offer the best price/mAh rating of all (bang for buck). These also significantly increase the size and weight of your device, and they require a new back cover (which should always be included when you buy the battery).
Ultra extended battery. There are 3 different brands of this type: The 4800mAh 'Cameron Sino' which is the cheapest, the 5000mAh Worcell which is a LOT more expensive, and at the very top we have the 5200mAh Mugen which is VERY expensive indeed. This type of battery increases the size and weight of your device even further, and includes a new back cover which is larger than the one found on 3xxx mAh batteries (although in my opinion it does look better!).
My main point is that within each type, the various different brands of battery are all physically identical, that means they have exactly the same components as each other. It is possible that they may have been made in different factories, eg. some in Japan and some in China, although to be honest I doubt this as it just does not make financial sense to produce this product in anywhere other than 1 factory.
Quality issues
The first 3200mAh battery I purchased was faulty, my phone just displayed a red light and refused to boot no matter what I did. The replacement was fine however, and I have been using it until today as my new 4800mAh battery has just arrived
Reading through these forums, it seems that quite a few people have experienced the "red light" issue on new batteries purchased from eBay sellers in Hong Kong. This is not common at all, but there is a small risk that it can happen.
In my opinion though, the massive amount of money you can save by purchasing the battery from eBay is more than worth this risk (all sellers should replace faulty batteries anyway). The 5200mAh Mugen battery for example is nearly five times more expensive than a Cameron Sino 4800mAh from eBay, and this is close to the actual cost of an entire second hand HTC Universal! So from the Ultra category I think only the 4800mAh battery is good value, the 5000 and 5200 models are just FAR too expensive for such little extra benefit - which you are highly unlikely to notice anyway.
Coming soon: Photographs of the 3 different types of battery that are available.

thanks for the tip man

I just ordrered 5200 one from Murgen, hoping to review it soon

original battery
Hi
can someone tell me where to buy the original 1620mAh battery for my o2 exec?
Thanks

sl9 said:
There are THREE different physical types of replacement battery (PU16A) available for the HTC Universal.
My main point is that within each type, the various different brands of battery are all physically identical, that means they have exactly the same components as each other.
I think only the 4800mAh battery is good value, the 5000 and 5200 models are just FAR too expensive for such little extra benefit
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Sorry for my first post on this board to be a whinge, but I've found the post extremely useful until I realised it doesn't quite make sense. Are the 4800/5000/5200's the same or different?
Not trying to be picky, but I would actually love to know as I've recently got a 2nd hand universal, and my battery is dying before I get back home from work. This thread seems like it has a lot of info which will be very useful/interesting to me, once it's cleared up.

They are not the same, 4800mah is cheapest and pretty massive and deliveres best bang for the buck performance... 5000 and 5200 models are much expencive and delivers not too much better performance than 4800mAh model...

Building battery for Uni
There is also a possibility to build your own battery for Uni and this hand-made battery is very useful where you don't find the battery for your device....like me.
There is no battery available in my country for Uni and I've built the battery for my device last year, which is still working great.

Tomal: That sounds very interesting, what is the battery life like? And what chemistry is it, Lithium Ion, Lithium Ion Polymer or something else?
Could you take a few pictures? I would love to see it!

orb3000 said:
Hi
can someone tell me where to buy the original 1620mAh battery for my o2 exec?
Thanks
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Hey Orb3000, try this site. I do a lot of shopping with them - never had a problem
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/cat/XDA-Exec-Batteries.htm

Vipeone said:
Hey Orb3000, try this site. I do a lot of shopping with them - never had a problem
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/cat/XDA-Exec-Batteries.htm
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Thanks a lot mate!
Do you know a place in the USA? as it´s closer to my country so I can save in shipping costs.
Cheers

Will it make a difference if I use a qtek 9000 or imate jasjar battery on my xda exec? Will it have any adverse effects?

orb3000 said:
Thanks a lot mate!
Do you know a place in the USA? as it´s closer to my country so I can save in shipping costs.
Cheers
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Sorry just actually noticed Your on the different continent.
try this then
http://www.longlast-battery.com/lan...at=111&Cat=9&gclid=CI2LioKSsZUCFQyN1Qod4GEljg
alisarmadkhan said:
Will it make a difference if I use a qtek 9000 or imate jasjar battery on my xda exec? Will it have any adverse effects?
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Don't think so as they are actually the same model of HTC Universal just branded with other company's name.

Vipeone said:
Sorry just actually noticed Your on the different continent.
try this then
http://www.longlast-battery.com/lan...at=111&Cat=9&gclid=CI2LioKSsZUCFQyN1Qod4GEljg
Thanks a lot mate!
Just a quiestion. Does this battery is bigger in size than the original one? I never saw a titanium batteryinstead of the original litium
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orb3000 said:
Thanks a lot mate!
Just a quiestion. Does this battery is bigger in size than the original one? I never saw a titanium battery instead of the original litium
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It's normal Li-Ion battery. "TITANIUM" is just a logo or summit like this

New battery but same power off problem
Hi all.. I bought a new battery for my i-mate jasjar because the old battery is causing a abnormally power off between 70% and 90%. With the new battery the problem is same but now power off between 60% and 70%.. What's happening? Plz! Help Me.

rildomoraes said:
Hi all.. I bought a new battery for my i-mate jasjar because the old battery is causing a abnormally power off between 70% and 90%. With the new battery the problem is same but now power off between 60% and 70%.. What's happening? Plz! Help Me.
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Welcome to the forum
Please READ the Wiki, there is a section of battery problems
Good luck

What does one have to do AFTER getting a new battery? Do we need to fully charge it, or fully discharge it? Please let me now as my battery arrives on wednesday.

I made a fully discharge then fully charge, but the problem continues.

Maybe the new battery isn't that new as the seller claims???

[Q] Could someone measure the size of their batteries?

hello everyone
I want to get the S3 extended battery kit, but i'm unsure if it will fit my phone. i have the Japanese S3 (SC-03E) and i've been told that the batteries are different sizes, however i've never seen anything solid or gotten any solid information weather they are different. i've attached some pictures of my battery measurements (inches-left, centimeters-right). could someone please take measurements to see which battery can i buy? even better if someone has the official samsung galaxy s3 extended battery kit.
moreover this thread shows that there are different batteries but it shows no measurements so i have no idea which battery would fit my phone http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1942765

Battery Size
Edgrr000 said:
hello everyone
I want to get the S3 extended battery kit, but i'm unsure if it will fit my phone. i have the Japanese S3 (SC-03E) and i've been told that the batteries are different sizes, however i've never seen anything solid or gotten any solid information weather they are different. i've attached some pictures of my battery measurements (inches-left, centimeters-right). could someone please take measurements to see which battery can i buy? even better if someone has the official samsung galaxy s3 extended battery kit.
moreover this thread shows that there are different batteries but it shows no measurements so i have no idea which battery would fit my phone http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1942765
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I have the Hyperion 4200 mAh battery (http://www.amazon.com/Hyperion-Exte...44&sr=8-7&keywords=galaxy+s3+battery+extended) from Amazon. I measured it with a crappy paper tape so the measurrements may be off by 0.5 mm but this is what it measures - 50 mm wide x 62 mm long x just under 1.1 mm thick.
Hope that helps. If the battery doesn't fit, you can always return it to Amazon. I've had amazing good luck with this one and the one I originally bought for my Charge. Totally satisfied with both.

[Q] Replacement Batteries

This will be a quick one.
My battery is starting to be a bit rubbish, so I am looking at getting a new, higher powered one.
I have found these on ebay that look ok, but I wanted to throw it out to u guys to see if any of u have bought them.....
2100mAh 100% GENUINE SAMSUNG GALAXY S3 i9300 BATTERY 2100mAH NFC FIT GALAXY S3 GT-i9300
2300mAh SAMSUNG GALAXY S3 SIII i9300 HIGH CAPACITY Li-ION SMARTPHONE BATTERY
2850mAh GOLD 2850 mah SAMSUNG GALAXY S3 i9300 Li-ION SMARTPHONE BATTERY
3800mAh 3800mAh High Capacity Battery for Samsung Galaxy S3 i9300
I don't want to go for one of those super high power, double size batteries, cos I like the fact I have a slim phone.
I've had many bricks in the past and I do not want to turn my nice slim S3 into an old Nokia size brick, lolz.

Check out this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2411923
Maybe gives you some more options.
Sent from my Nexus 7 (2013)

I have also been wanting to replace my battery, I just wanted to ask which of the original battery is better i have seen :
cell made in Japan assembled in China
cell made in Korea assembled in Vietnam
cell made in Korea assembled in china
Made in China
Made in Korea
Im sure there are others. I would guess anything made and assembled at same plant would be best, please correct me if im wrong.

You get what you pay for, I pay for a warranty I can trust as cheap batteries are too dangerous.
There's also a specific section for accessories.

boomboomer said:
You get what you pay for, I pay for a warranty I can trust as cheap batteries are too dangerous.
There's also a specific section for accessories.
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I get that, totally, and I have been looking at batteries, not their prices, if u know what I mean.
Jut wondering if anyone has had any dealings with these batteries.
Also, I know there is a accessories sections, but this was a question, so I asked it in the Q&A section.

I have only ever used Anchor battery and found them faultless .
Their was a post in Accessories at one time .
jje

Anchor or Anker? I also use Anker, just had a problem with my set of year old ones starting to swell -they replaced them both without quibble.

JJEgan said:
I have only ever used Anchor battery and found them faultless .
Their was a post in Accessories at one time .
jje
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Anchor or Anker? I also use Anker, just had a problem with my set of year old ones starting to swell -they replaced them both without quibble.
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I looked on their site and only found a 2200mAh battery, the bigger ones are double sized with the retrofit back plate.
Stock battery is only 2100mAh, so the Anker one isn't that much better =/

If the battery fits inside the standard back plate then it is the same capacity (or even less) as the standard battery, it's physically impossible for it to be any greater. Any advert saying a higher capacity for the same size is lying, so avoid.
Main point about the Anker is having two batteries, so you charge outside the phone and always have a fully charged spare to hand.

boomboomer said:
If the battery fits inside the standard back plate then it is the same capacity (or even less) as the standard battery, it's physically impossible for it to be any greater. Any advert saying a higher capacity for the same size is lying, so avoid.
Main point about the Anker is having two batteries, so you charge outside the phone and always have a fully charged spare to hand.
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I'm not going to question ur knowledge about this, but how can u have different mAh "AA" batteries, that are all the same size in that case??
I don't want to have to carry around a second battery with me all the time, this is why I was looking at different bigger capacity batteries =/

You can buy AA batteries in many different forms, alkaline, NiCad, Li-ion etc. Each has a different power density, with Li-ion being the highest. Standard S3 batteries are already the highest density so can't be bettered, if it were that easy then Samsung would have already done it.
The only way to get more capacity is to increase the physical dimensions, don't take my word for it try Wikipedia.

boomboomer said:
You can buy AA batteries in many different forms, alkaline, NiCad, Li-ion etc. Each has a different power density, with Li-ion being the highest. Standard S3 batteries are already the highest density so can't be bettered, if it were that easy then Samsung would have already done it.
The only way to get more capacity is to increase the physical dimensions, don't take my word for it try Wikipedia.
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S4's battery isn't much bigger, but capacity is much higher.
Personally I carry two slim zerolemons charged at 40% with me all the time.

me and wife have zerolemon 2300 in our gs3's, fit under original back door and they come with 180day warranty. only downside is no NFC. But to me its the Best 20 buck investment ive made as far as accessories lol.

boomboomer said:
The only way to get more capacity is to increase the physical dimensions, don't take my word for it try Wikipedia.
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I am very sorry if I sounded rude in my last post to u, I really didn't mean to, I know nothing about batteries so thank u for the information
1slow4G said:
me and wife have zerolemon 2300 in our gs3's, fit under original back door and they come with 180day warranty. only downside is no NFC. But to me its the Best 20 buck investment ive made as far as accessories lol.
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I've found the zerolemon 2300mAh batteries on eBay, HERE and I have also done some web searches about them, they look pretty good and I haven't found any bad reviews. 200mAh bigger than stock, and tested to be that capacity too, so must be true. I'm thinking of going for these, will just have to get a US to UK plug adaptor to go with the charger, lol.

Adam3Sixty said:
I am very sorry if I sounded rude in my last post to u, I really didn't mean to, I know nothing about batteries so thank u for the information .
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? No, you weren't at all rude -I wouldn't suggest anyone accept 'internet advise' without cross checking it against something else.
The batteries you've chosen have a modest claim for capacity so are probably genuine. Only drawbacks are the limited warranty and return postage, if ever required. The desktop battery charger I have looks identical, plugs into a standard micro usb charger so you might not need an adaptor.

Has anyone ever tried the momax battery ?
http://shop.momax.net/?sp=&p=6&cat2=637&cat1=113&cat0=46&id=3901&cat1=113&cat0=46&new=&more=&lang=en

Add my vote for the ZeroLemon 2300's. I've been using one for a while and it's great.

catman51 said:
Add my vote for the ZeroLemon 2300's. I've been using one for a while and it's great.
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I've had very good experience with the ZeroLemon 2300 too.
Very good battery life with Carbon ROM.

My friend is also using the Zerolemon battery, I'm still doing fine with my stock battery.

Any batteries available for ZF2 with higher capacity?

That would be great! Not just from ASUS but even from a 3rd party vendor.

blazzer12 said:
That would be great! Not just from ASUS but even from a 3rd party vendor.
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This does QuickCharge 2.0 in AND out: http://www.amazon.com/Qualcomm-Certified-Aukey-10400mAh-Supported/dp/B00UBDI7EC
It's pretty compact too. I use a lot of Aukey products; at first I thought they were a knockoff Anker but they're just as good.
There's also this one with the same capacity, but it's longer and has two ports and an LED flashlight. So it's basically same capacity, but do you want portability or flexibility.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B011U0AY22?psc=1
So it should charge your battery as fast as the ASUS charger.

Product F(RED) said:
This does QuickCharge 2.0 in AND out: http://www.amazon.com/Qualcomm-Certified-Aukey-10400mAh-Supported/dp/B00UBDI7EC
It's pretty compact too. I use a lot of Aukey products; at first I thought they were a knockoff Anker but they're just as good.
There's also this one with the same capacity, but it's longer and has two ports and an LED flashlight. So it's basically same capacity, but do you want portability or flexibility.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B011U0AY22?psc=1
So it should charge your battery as fast as the ASUS charger.
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I am sorry if I cause any confusion, but I meant batteries that go into the phone not power banks like the ones you linked.

blazzer12 said:
I am sorry if I cause any confusion, but I meant batteries that go into the phone not power banks like the ones you linked.
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Isn't the battery non-removable?

Product F(RED) said:
Isn't the battery non-removable?
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Nothing is ever completely "non-removable", mate.

Easiest solution would be a usb power case, although i haven't seen any for this phone so far.

Changing the battery on this phone is a fairly simple process, especially if you have fixed a phone before. The toughest part is the glue, but a little heat goes a long way. Just fixed the screen and changed the battery on a Mate 2, and I think that's a little more complex than the ZenFone 2. The biggest challenge would be finding a higher capacity battery that the firmware would recognize.....and that would fit.

Sammaul said:
Changing the battery on this phone is a fairly simple process, especially if you have fixed a phone before. The toughest part is the glue, but a little heat goes a long way. Just fixed the screen and changed the battery on a Mate 2, and I think that's a little more complex than the ZenFone 2. The biggest challenge would be finding a higher capacity battery that the firmware would recognize.....and that would fit.
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The only company that I think would make an extended battery for this is ZeroLemon. They are the only ones I've seen to use creative shapes to take advantage of extra room in the Z dimension. The only thing that would stop them from taking it on is plain economics. They would have to see that this phone is not only popular enough, but also enough nerds like us to justify dumping resources into R&D for it.

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Isn't the battery non-removable?
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http://www.myfixguide.com/manual/asus-zenfone-2-teardown/
ZenFone 2 uses a 3.8V 3000 mAh lithium polymer battery, model is C1191424
It can be removed.

Help
Hello, first and most important: "Sorry for my english", anyone knows where to buy the batery C1191424 in case of be necesary?.
Thanks!!!

hello all,
was wondering since, zenfone max has the same dimensions as ZF2 would it be possible to port the 5000 mah battery on to ZF2.
Thnx

i would love to have my battery capacity change too.. if there is anyone that can know about this its asus..

Guys, I had never see replacement battery for non-removable battery products..you can wish for battery-covers but I don't get the point, the phone in already very big and heavy (170 grams are already a lot), if you increase battery (and it's not possible in the original case, maybe only Mugen is able to do this, but I don't think they will produce a battery for a non-removable product) it will will become a brick and you can use it to build your new house Seriously, I think it's better to buy a powerbank (I use the Xiaomi 10400 and it's great). Asus won't release a new battery for this phone, removing the original battery you will void warranty. For me, no chances.

I am considering the zenfone 2 as an option for my next phone. Thing is, i dont like the idea to have after 2-3 Years get rid of the phone because the battery is gone.
I searched the web and didnt find a original or third party replacement battery.
Is that possible? Any Ideass guys?

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I am considering the zenfone 2 as an option for my next phone. Thing is, i dont like the idea to have after 2-3 Years get rid of the phone because the battery is gone.
I searched the web and didnt find a original or third party replacement battery.
Is that possible? Any Ideass guys?
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This should be official Asus parts reseller http://www.asusparts.eu/partfinder/Asus/Mobile/ZenFone/ZenFone 2 ZE551ML#Battery

Hey Marco!
You made my day! :good::highfive:
Thx for the link!!
Greetings from Germany . . .

Doesn't matter if you see the point or think the phone is already too big. I want a battery case much like the ZeroLemon case for the Galaxy Note series. I dont care how big or bulky my phone is, I have huge hands and I would prefer to have a phone that lasts two days instead of one that looks pretty.

I myself have looked for either a bigger battery, or a case, and have found nothing...
Unfortunately the only solution would be to carry a power bank of some sort. I guess the phone isn't that popular .

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Hello, first and most important: "Sorry for my english", anyone knows where to buy the batery C1191424 in case of be necesary?.
Thanks!!!
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I purchased mine in AsusParts, took 2-3 weeks cause it ships from Asia to Europe and then to your country, installed and everything works fine ATM.
Before, I tried at AliExpress but they sent the wrong battery, I think Zenfone 5 has the same battery with a different connector (check my thread about screen replacement in Q&A section for more info)

Yeah, I have tried to find something like that without success.

Finding the best replacement battery for OnePlus One

Disclaimer: if a seller claims that the battery is original - it's fake. There are no original batteries because OnePlus have stopped the production of accessories for our phone about 2 years ago. Even if there is a leftover stock - it will be degraded just because the Li-Ion batteries lose capacity over time.
Tested batteries:
VHBW: EU only for €17.54, tested as about 2700mAh
HSA for $12.90 - about 3000mAh real capacity, the connector is not properly aligned, longevity is unknown.
Check the last pages for the currently best batteries!

Waiting for feedbacks... I had unpleasant experiences with such high-capacity-chinese-battery-replacement. But if those are good would be awesome

Hmmm...if i'm not mistaken this battery is a bit thicker then original battery so the battery is a bit thicker then you might have a problem with GPS, NFC and Network signal as there will be a minor gaps between the back cover and the connector for all 3 antenna which is located at the back cover....

the PN is BLP571 . but the original BLP571 should be 3100mah.
so this one is not original and i can't find any review on these batteries.

chenrp said:
the PN is BLP571 . but the original BLP571 should be 3100mah.
so this one is not original and i can't find any review on these batteries.
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How not original replacement with highter capacity can be original one?

iPusak Gaoq™ said:
Hmmm...if i'm not mistaken this battery is a bit thicker then original battery so the battery is a bit thicker then you might have a problem with GPS, NFC and Network signal as there will be a minor gaps between the back cover and the connector for all 3 antenna which is located at the back cover....
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I doubt it, as long as the latches are fine - everything should work normally.

nitrobg said:
I doubt it, as long as the latches are fine - everything should work normally.
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You doubt? Just look at original battery when it got expanded due to years of usage...the battery forced the back cover to open a little gaps between the connector and the antenna...that wasn't the worst of it...you have 90% chances that your lcd (in the middle part) will have a little gaps due to thicker battery...
Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

will it transform my oneplus one into a galaxy note 7?

Tried to search on Taobao in China.
But found nothing about that.

iPusak Gaoq™ said:
Hmmm...if i'm not mistaken this battery is a bit thicker then original battery so the battery is a bit thicker then you might have a problem with GPS, NFC and Network signal as there will be a minor gaps between the back cover and the connector for all 3 antenna which is located at the back cover....
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Wait how do you know this battery is thicker?

WangGang said:
Wait how do you know this battery is thicker?
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Bigger capacity means thicker battery then original battery...remember this is 500mAh more then original battery...
Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

not really bro~ it depends on the type of battery used and how they interlace the layers
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this should be +/- the same thickness. i assume this too, as we are doing assumptions here hehe

Just a scam:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62136007&postcount=10
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62175695&postcount=16

Any review?? My battery has damaged and need to replace asap.

exadeci said:
Just a scam:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62136007&postcount=10
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62175695&postcount=16
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Why is it a scam? The reported value is purely cosmetic.

nitrobg said:
Why is it a scam? The reported value is purely cosmetic.
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If the reported value is lower than the real one your phone will treat it as the real value

nitrobg said:
Links to AliExpress: 1, 2, 3, 4
HSA batteries are legit, they make replacements with a higher capacity and across the stores they have a good feedback.
I think that it's worth trying it.
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It is worth trying it. I've used oem batteries in my phones, and they work and fit just fine, however they don't necessarily have that stunningly higher capacity as advertised, and they may not last as long as a high quality original or replacement. My OPO currently has a cheap Chinese battery in it, and it's just fine. It fits better than my swollen old original one, and immediately cleared up inaccuracies in charging, and in the charging light.
I will expect to get at least a year out of it, even though cheap.

Anyone has any links to good, tested replacement batteries?

so this is a bad battery? or you recommend it?

MexiDroid said:
so this is a bad battery? or you recommend it?
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Its a fake mate, 2000mah.
I have seen batteries that look like the oneplus original (red) ones for sale. I would buy those.