com.samsung.android.kgclient malware? - Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers

I can't disable this apk because it says it's an admin app but when I look at the list of admin apps it's not there. It shows it's Payment Services? Any advice on how to remove this would be greatly appreciated. If you need any info from me please let me know.

Pretty sure that is part of Samsung Pay.
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com.samsung.android.kgclient is not malware
It is an app from Samsung and it's called "Payment Services".

check data/system/enterprise.db

Hosehead said:
Pretty sure that is part of Samsung Pay.
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Yeah, Samsung crapware. I hate it.
No way to uninstall or disable as it's preset as system administrator. Can't clear it's cache, and useless if you don't want this feature!
Another worthless Samsung free martin.
Like to rabbit punch the rat at Samsung who forced this down our throats.
Feel the wuv...

I use it all the time. To each his own.
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Hosehead said:
Pretty sure that is part of Samsung Pay.
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Hosehead said:
I use it all the time. To each his own.
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Great if you do but otherwise it serves no purpose.
The worst piece of bloatware on the phone other than Knox. Both run in the background.
I don't need Samsung playing big sister...

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com.samsung.android.kgclient is "samsung payment service" and part of "knoxguard.apk" - if you diable (freeze) or remove (uninstall) it, after boot into system you get a message "the phone is locked bcause you uninstalled payment service..." there is another XDA thread regarding unlocking this by editing a file in /data/systems...
What you can do is blocking its internet access in afwall+ ...
Anybody knows how to completed remove knox+payment service in android 10?

monicaONxda said:
com.samsung.android.kgclient is "samsung payment service" and part of "knoxguard.apk" - if you diable (freeze) or remove (uninstall) it, after boot into system you get a message "the phone is locked bcause you uninstalled payment service..." there is another XDA thread regarding unlocking this by editing a file in /data/systems...
What you can do is blocking its internet access in afwall+ ...
Anybody knows how to completed remove knox+payment service in android 10?
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I wish
I hate that crap... it's set as a invisible administrator so you can't package block it or disable it.
No way to stop Samsung Payment from loading even if you don't use it.
KMLS Agent is another one...

monicaONxda said:
com.samsung.android.kgclient is "samsung payment service" and part of "knoxguard.apk" - if you diable (freeze) or remove (uninstall) it, after boot into system you get a message "the phone is locked bcause you uninstalled payment service..."
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no issues whatsoever with. kgclient disabled
also .spay and .spayfw

raul6 said:
no issues whatsoever with. kgclient disabled
also .spay and .spayfw
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Say me please, how you disable kgclient and don't have locking smartphone.

using an older version of Adhell with still active key

monicaONxda said:
com.samsung.android.kgclient is "samsung payment service" ...
What you can do is blocking its internet access in afwall+ ...
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As for me I observed a service named "device services" in AFWall. Blocking this causes high battery drain. After some reseach I found that this is the kgclient.
Anybody with same experience?

can/has anyone try/tried these commands :
this takes away the ability to execute a wakelock,and it should/maybe prevent running (actively) in the background.
(@ shell+root)
appops set com.samsung.android.kgclient WAKE_LOCK ignore
appops set com.samsung.android.kgclient RUN_IN_BACKGROUND ignore
appops set com.samsung.android.kgclient RUN_ANY_IN_BACKGROUND ignore
permission manager X can do it as well (if your a GUIperson only )

starbright_ said:
As for me I observed a service named "device services" in AFWall. Blocking this causes high battery drain. After some reseach I found that this is the kgclient.
Anybody with same experience?
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Yeah it's a little b*tch. (XDA has auto censor, how quaint)
These are always at it as well.
UID 1000 Android Services, can be firewall blocked almost all the time with zero impact.
UID 10044 Google Play Services*, can be Firewall blocked a lot of the time, needed for Gmail, Gmaps, Playstore.
Firewall blocking these pigs saves a lot battery for me.
*I keep Google Play Services package disabled except when needed. Even when PBed some of it's apks continue to run. Google Backup Transport Services and Framework use it a lot too if they're allowed to run.

device services ...do you mean com.sec.android.sdhms ?
thats the device health service (battery stats,..)
while it can be (fw)blocked,I havent found a way to remove it.
not even pm hide (which worked wonders for the game.gos service ) worked
even with pm uninstall,the package is back within seconds ...
one possibility would be to remove RUN_IN/ANY_BACKGROUND with appops/permissionmasterX.

justin22 said:
device services ...do you mean com.sec.android.sdhms ?
thats the device health service (battery stats,..)
while it can be (fw)blocked,I havent found a way to remove it.
not even pm hide (which worked wonders for the game.gos service ) worked
even with pm uninstall,the package is back within seconds ...
one possibility would be to remove RUN_IN/ANY_BACKGROUND with appops/permissionmasterX.
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That's Samsung Device Health Management Service. I can, but don't package disable it.
It's not a menace on my device but each device is different. Not showing up on the firewall; probably grouped together in the UID1000 group which I do firewall block as it's a little b*tch.
It's currently running. I can package disable it to see what it's dependencies are...
Update, blocking it seems to do nothing that I can spot yet however it doesn't seem to be causing trouble either.

how did you disable it / or see whats it dependencies are ?
I block stuff only by appname,not UID within AFwall+

justin22 said:
how did you disable it / or see whats it dependencies are ?
I block stuff only by appname,not UID within AFwall+
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I use package disabler. Sometimes Karma shows the UID number with a few of the system apks. As for dependencies mostly by observation, wysiwyg.

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MS allows background apps!

From Engadget....Finally, audio in the background.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/29/microsoft-loosens-up-enables-windows-phone-7-apps-to-run-beneat/
Yeah, and even before it has been released here in the US. Signs are looking good that MS will continue to support its new OS.
"Background apps", that is those that can run behind the lockscreen, were always possible! Does does however not mean multitasking.
The only thing that changed here is that the certification requirements removed the requirement about asking the user to be able to run behind the lockscreen. Yes, the application itself was required to ask for permission.
However there's exactly nothing that stopped an application from doing so to begin with.
All it required was setting the PhoneApplicationService.ApplicationIdleDetectionMode property. It has been there since the beta SDK was released.
Tom Servo said:
"Background apps", that is those that can run behind the lockscreen, were always possible! Does does however not mean multitasking.
The only thing that changed here is that the certification requirements removed the requirement about asking the user to be able to run behind the lockscreen. Yes, the application itself was required to ask for permission.
However there's exactly nothing that stopped an application from doing so to begin with.
All it required was setting the PhoneApplicationService.ApplicationIdleDetectionMode property. It has been there since the beta SDK was released.
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It's true that the requirement to ask permission is gone, but in most cases the app would freeze when you lock the device, and resume a few seconds after you unlocked it again.
You can't deny this change is an improvement.
Good news everyone!
cPT.cAPSLOCK said:
It's true that the requirement to ask permission is gone, but in most cases the app would freeze when you lock the device, and resume a few seconds after you unlocked it again.
You can't deny this change is an improvement.
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It's a certification requirement that changed. The operating system did not change.
And setting that goddamned property I referred to keeps the applications running under the lockscreen NOW already.
Aerik said:
Good news everyone!
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Well nothing much has really changed.

[Q] Why so many apps ask to activate Location, when not necessary?

Hello,
I noticed that several apps I install require that I enable my location/position.
For several of them my location has nothing to do with the purpose of the app.
For instance: Bubble Birds.
I was wondering why??! And also, are the developers using the users' location info for some reasons?
Thank you.
This is something that irks me too, and is often a deciding point on whether I buy/install said app.
I can see it as being used for statistical purposes, but still brings out the conspiracy theorist in me.
I think it might be for ads. Maybe it is for stats though
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The "ID_CAP_LOCATION" capability is included by default when creating a new project. If the location requirement is derived from this, it could mean that many developers just haven't removed it before submission, making it look like the application needs location info. This would probably be pointed out during submission, though. Maybe it's for the ads?
Thank you for all the answers.
I suppose it's not for the ads. I live in France and, luckily, all the ads are totally irrevelant and in English.
arturobandini said:
Thank you for all the answers.
I suppose it's not for the ads. I live in France and, luckily, all the ads are totally irrevelant and in English.
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On my App, I have a trial mode that uses ads. If you pass the location information to the adControl, it enhances the selection process for the ads and will provide better focused ads, which also enhances money the developers receive.
AFAIK, WP7 doesn't support the ability to say "no" to the location and still use the app. If you decline the location, the application will not run. It would be nice to deny access to Location to the app, and still let the application run.
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On my App, I have a trial mode that uses ads. If you pass the location information to the adControl, it enhances the selection process for the ads and will provide better focused ads, which also enhances money the developers receive.
AFAIK, WP7 doesn't support the ability to say "no" to the location and still use the app. If you decline the location, the application will not run. It would be nice to deny access to Location to the app, and still let the application run.
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Well they have a very strict policy with the location service, it should be comppetely turned off from within the app if the user desires, i had an app with a button to activate and find the current location and it failed certification since the user could not bypass this button! If the user does not want to supply his location dont press te button and the location service will remain off, but this was not strict enough there should have been an extra switch to deactivate this button....
Weird policy really really weird

A new Nexus 7 user desperately seeking advice:

Ok,
The nexus 7 is my very first tablet that I bought last week.
I need to keep Google at bay to some degree and guard my privacy. My tablet is not rooted but I need a top notch privacy application.
A link to an xda post about the best Nexus 7 apps would be nice too.
I chose the Nexus 7 to avoid the Vendor bloatware/crud but Google had movie, books and other crud to remove. Sheesh!
klepto said:
Ok,
The nexus 7 is my very first tablet that I bought last week.
I need to keep Google at bay to some degree and guard my privacy. My tablet is not rooted but I need a top notch privacy application.
A link to an xda post about the best Nexus 7 apps would be nice too.
I chose the Nexus 7 to avoid the Vendor bloatware/crud but Google had movie, books and other crud to remove. Sheesh!
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(You should have posted in General or Q/A Thread about this) but what exactly are you looking for? Everyone seems to be worried about Google's Privacy issues, and I'm not sure why.
Movies and books are a big reason why people buy tablets..
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You can just disable them if you want.
Opethsgh747 said:
Movies and books are a big reason why people buy tablets..
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And in my opinion Google's apps work pretty well anyways.
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klepto said:
Ok,
The nexus 7 is my very first tablet that I bought last week.
I need to keep Google at bay to some degree and guard my privacy. My tablet is not rooted but I need a top notch privacy application.
A link to an xda post about the best Nexus 7 apps would be nice too.
I chose the Nexus 7 to avoid the Vendor bloatware/crud but Google had movie, books and other crud to remove. Sheesh!
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I share your sentiments. Unfortunately it is hard to do without rooting.
If you don't want your calendar and contacts on Google, be sure to turn off "sync" in their settings. Turn off sync in all apps you don't want to share with the world. Use Adaway app.
Avoid Google searches and use DuckDuckGo or Ixquick instead.
LBE security suite, firewall apps (I use Avast but there are others) help.
Look at Xposed Framework installer (there's an xda thread) and the XPrivacy Module.
Hope this helps.
Anderson2 said:
I share your sentiments. Unfortunately it is hard to do without rooting.
Look at Xposed Framework installer (there's an xda thread) and the XPrivacy Module.
Hope this helps.
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I heard that there are some risks involved with that application I broke down and rooted my Nexus 7 and installed AppOpsX. Is the app you suggest much better?
Not familiar with with Appopsx. Sorry.
Have had no problems with what I recommended.
Anderson2 said:
Not familiar with with Appopsx. Sorry.
Have had no problems with what I recommended.
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Xprivacy is excellent but as soon as I enabled the module SuperSu went nuts and wouldn't allow root access for other apps.
Interesting. Doesn't do it on my Nexus 7 2013 with Android 4.3. Maybe something on KitKat.
I would suppose so as I enabled shell access with Xprivacy.. I'll keep testing.. It's too great to give up on.
Xprivacy is great, it is working fine with Cyanogenmod 11. I have to tweak it every now and then but it is far and above better than any privacy based app I've ever used.
Don't forget to wear your tinfoil hat. Lol.
Out of curiosity, what exactly are you worried about?
Actually it should be obvious, if you go to your Google account via desktop Google has a log of where you have been via GPS. It has voice prints from Google Now, it keeps wifi passwords and much much more. I don't work for Google so I don't know how trustworthy they are with other people's data. I wouldn't want any company to have all my information at their fingertips.
Some companies sell your information, others use it to profile you so that they can show ads that are closer to your liking. Trust is everything.
@klepto You can close location reporting, and it won't have a log of where you've been. I don't know what a "voice print" is, but google now is all about collecting information about you, i know this answer is frustrating but if you want privacy don't use google now. It keeps wifi passwords for your convenience, who would google sell your wifi password, your neighbour? Every company you ever used have all information you give them at their fingertips, but they cannot use it as they like because you are protected by law, you are not trusting and you shouldn't trust any company, you are trusting the law. As for the OP, first decide which information you want to hide from them, for example are you trying to hide your searches, or your messages etc, then search/use the app that hides it. There is a project like this if you are interested: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1715375
klepto said:
Actually it should be obvious, if you go to your Google account via desktop Google has a log of where you have been via GPS. It has voice prints from Google Now, it keeps wifi passwords and much much more. I don't work for Google so I don't know how trustworthy they are with other people's data. I wouldn't want any company to have all my information at their fingertips.
Some companies sell your information, others use it to profile you so that they can show ads that are closer to your liking. Trust is everything.
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It's hardly important, or a big deal though. If you're concerned about what they do/can do with the data, read their policies.
Dan1909 said:
It's hardly important, or a big deal though. If you're concerned about what they do/can do with the data, read their policies.
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I agree with the OP. Many others do too. Privacy may be a thing of the past but one can try.
When identify theft becomes more rampant than it already is, more effective privacy laws will probably be enacted. Till then, some of us prefer to lock our home's front doors - even though we are well aware that they can be kicked open. Not everyone has joined the Facebook groupies who share all their private moments for all to see.
Anderson2 said:
I agree with the OP. Many others do too. Privacy may be a thing of the past but one can try.
When identify theft becomes more rampant than it already is, more effective privacy laws will probably be enacted. Till then, some of us prefer to lock our home's front doors - even though we are well aware that they can be kicked open. Not everyone has joined the Facebook groupies who share all their private moments for all to see.
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I agree with you though, privacy is important.
However, the information google use/take isn't ever going to cause an issue to my life, so there's no reason for me to get worked up worrying about nothing. So what if they have some records of where I've been, or any wifi passwords I've let them save, what negatives can actually happen arising from that?
Fair enough if it's just a matter of principle, but there's no actual need to worry about anything happening.
Dakura said:
@klepto You can close location reporting, and it won't have a log of where you've been. I don't know what a "voice print" is, but google now is all about collecting information about you, i know this answer is frustrating but if you want privacy don't use google now. It keeps wifi passwords for your convenience, who would google sell your wifi password, your neighbour? Every company you ever used have all information you give them at their fingertips, but they cannot use it as they like because you are protected by law, you are not trusting and you shouldn't trust any company, you are trusting the law. As for the OP, first decide which information you want to hide from them, for example are you trying to hide your searches, or your messages etc, then search/use the app that hides it. There is a project like this if you are interested: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1715375
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The problem with that thinking is that 1 your expecting them to obey the laws and 2 you don't know what level of protection they or their partners that they share your info with have in place, and how easily it can be uses to steal your identity. What is a internet the if "is" your neighbor we give out our email address freely with that if they hax Google they can now remotely access your WiFi and put a keystroke logger on your network. Sounds a bit far fetched but just think just because you live in a good neighborhood don't you still lock your doors at night?
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Medical app not compatible - is it potentially achievable for me to get it to work?

Hi,
I use continuous glucose monitoring to monitor my blood sugar, as I am a type 1 diabetic. The CGM I use uses Bluetooth to sync with an app (Medtronic's Guardian Connect app) and gives blood sugar data, safety alerts etc., but this app is only compatible with selected Android phones, which doesn't include any Oneplus phones. I really like the Oneplus 7t so I would rather not sell it if possible, so I was thinking of trying to make it compatible with the Oneplus and removing the phone model block. This has been done before with a different medical manufacturer's CGM app ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t/help/medical-app-compatibility-t4015519 ), so I think it should be possible. Given my lack of programming ability, I was wondering if there are resources anywhere that might help with learning how to do this? Obviously they're not going to tell me "This is how you make this specific app work", but I'm just hoping to find some general resources on this type of coding. I have searched around with no success as I am not sure where to look. I gather it would take more than simply changing the buildprop file to trick the app into thinking it's a compatible phone.
Thanks.
Would help to know the app and what issues you're having. Is it not showing up in the play store? Does it give an error?
ziddey said:
Would help to know the app and what issues you're having. Is it not showing up in the play store? Does it give an error?
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Sorry, not sure how I managed to omit all those details. The app is Guardian Connect (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.medtronic.diabetes.guardianconnect&hl=en). I am able to download it, but when I open it it says "incompatible with your device", as it's only officially compatible with a limited subsection of Android phones (https://guardianconnect.medtronic-diabetes-mena.com/en_gb/app-compatibility). However, the Dexcom app that I linked in the first post also has limited compatibility, yet people have managed to get it to work with other android phones, so I'm cautiously optimistic that it will be possible for me to do the same.
I can't link URLs properly yet as I'm a new user, so I had to add those spaces in the links.
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Riveon said:
Sorry, not sure how I managed to omit all those details. The app is Guardian Connect (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.medtronic.diabetes.guardianconnect&hl=en). I am able to download it, but when I open it it says "incompatible with your device", as it's only officially compatible with a limited subsection of Android phones (https://guardianconnect.medtronic-diabetes-mena.com/en_gb/app-compatibility). However, the Dexcom app that I linked in the first post also has limited compatibility, yet people have managed to get it to work with other android phones, so I'm cautiously optimistic that it will be possible for me to do the same.
I can't link URLs properly yet as I'm a new user, so I had to add those spaces in the links.
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Hello. Just wanted to inform you that I inserted the working links on your behalf (at least I assumed so).
I hope you'll find a solution for the issue soon.
Oswald Boelcke said:
Hello. Just wanted to inform you that I inserted the working links on your behalf (at least I assumed so).
I hope you'll find a solution for the issue soon.
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Thanks for that
I have diabetes and want to use this app for checking my blood glucose level continiously on my oneplus 8pro phone but the app says its not compatible with the device. I don't know how to solve this problem.
Is there anybody who can help us with this?
Have you you guys tried to email the developer of the app to fix this?
I have diabetes and want to use this app for checking my blood glucose level continiously on my oneplus 8pro phone but the app says its not compatible with the device. I don't know how to solve this problem.
Is there anybody who can help us with this?
v.konvict said:
Have you you guys tried to email the developer of the app to fix this?
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Yep, they weren't helpful at all though, unfortunately - they just gave a generic "keep an eye on the compatible device list" response. In the end I gave up and sold a Oneplus and got a Samsung.
Hi!
I just had contact with medtronic Belgium and they said; the more people call us the more 'problem cases' go to the IT'ers in America. So they mean how faster the problem will be solved so just give them a call
Greetings
https://m.apkpure.com/guardian-connect-us/com.medtronic.diabetes.guardianconnect.us/download?from=details
Needs stock, unrooted, bootloader locked, oos10
How can we fake the phone ID for an app?
HueyT said:
https://m.apkpure.com/guardian-connect-us/com.medtronic.diabetes.guardianconnect.us/download?from=details
Needs stock, unrooted, bootloader locked, oos10
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Can this unlocking of phone be done for two other apps from Medtronic as listed below please?
CareLink™ Connect - Apps on Google Play
Diabetes data sharing
play.google.com
MiniMed™ Mobile - Apps on Google Play
Insulin pump display
play.google.com
Same error message as original post...
I am using an Asus ROG 5s Pro
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help
Can't use unlocked bootloader or rooted phones for medical apps as less secure
volkslove said:
Can this unlocking of phone be done for two other apps from Medtronic as listed below please?
CareLink™ Connect - Apps on Google Play
Diabetes data sharing
play.google.com
MiniMed™ Mobile - Apps on Google Play
Insulin pump display
play.google.com
Same error message as original post...
I am using an Asus ROG 5s Pro
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help
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https://apkpure.com/developer/Medtronic%2C%20Inc.
Here is the list of all Medtronic's apps. Download the APK, then select the file from your Downloads folder in the Files app.
You may be prompted about the app being from an unknown source or risk to your device. Ignore the warning, tap OK, yes, or allow if prompted.
Hope this helps and as the post above already said I would consider calling Medtronic customer service and asking them to make the app available to all phones.
KemikalElite said:
https://apkpure.com/developer/Medtronic%2C%20Inc.
Here is the list of all Medtronic's apps. Download the APK, then select the file from your Downloads folder in the Files app.
You may be prompted about the app being from an unknown source or risk to your device. Ignore the warning, tap OK, yes, or allow if prompted.
Hope this helps and as the post above already said I would consider calling Medtronic customer service and asking them to make the app available to all phones.
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Was actually hoping for a work around to use on phones that are not on the compatible list, i.e. for the app to not check for phone compatibility before starting.
volkslove said:
Can this unlocking of phone be done for two other apps from Medtronic as listed below please?
CareLink™ Connect - Apps on Google Play
Diabetes data sharing
play.google.com
MiniMed™ Mobile - Apps on Google Play
Insulin pump display
play.google.com
Same error message as original post...
I am using an Asus ROG 5s Pro
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help
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I second this; rooted OnePlus 8 Pro running an A12 custom ROM
Personally I've actually come pretty close and was able to hide both Root and Developer Options from being detected using XPrivacyLua, but was unable to get MagiskProps working properly to get around the final "Your Phone is Incompatible" by spoofing as a Google Pixel (one of the primary "approved" devices) message, even after trying multiple older APKs combined with clearing data/cache
Zilch163 said:
I second this; rooted OnePlus 8 Pro running an A12 custom ROM
Personally I've actually come pretty close and was able to hide both Root and Developer Options from being detected using XPrivacyLua, but was unable to get MagiskProps working properly to get around the final "Your Phone is Incompatible" by spoofing as a Google Pixel (one of the primary "approved" devices) message, even after trying multiple older APKs combined with clearing data/cache
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Thanks.
Actually the logic behind limiting the compatible devices boggles my mind because, other than replicating the screen of the insulin pump and sending data downloaded from the pump to health care providers, the app does not allow pump to accept commands from external devices. So I do not see what the concern is with allowing more devices to use the app...
volkslove said:
Thanks.
Actually the logic behind limiting the compatible devices boggles my mind because, other than replicating the screen of the insulin pump and sending data downloaded from the pump to health care providers, the app does not allow pump to accept commands from external devices. So I do not see what the concern is with allowing more devices to use the app...
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There is no logic, just retarded medical industry bureaucracy BS.
I've contacted customer support multiple times and asked them the same question, only to get the same useless response of pretending to "pass on my feedback".
It's actually one of the reasons I wanna find out how to work around the problem even more; like who needs them to take proper control of a medical device that I own.
Would also be amazing to get a Wear OS app that displays the same or similar information to the app, but I don't see that being made by Medtronic for at least a decade.
Zilch163 said:
I second this; rooted OnePlus 8 Pro running an A12 custom ROM
Personally I've actually come pretty close and was able to hide both Root and Developer Options from being detected using XPrivacyLua, but was unable to get MagiskProps working properly to get around the final "Your Phone is Incompatible" by spoofing as a Google Pixel (one of the primary "approved" devices) message, even after trying multiple older APKs combined with clearing data/cache
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Hi! Im struggling with getting this app working on my rooted xiaomi. Do you remember how exactly did you bypass those checks with xprivacylua?

Can I use banking apps on LineageOS with Magisk?

Hi. Apologies for the noob question. Is it possible to get banking apps, PayPal etc to work on lineage ? I've installed magisk but don't know how to configure it, even if it will do what I need. Is there a guide somewhere? Thanks.
aneng64 said:
Hi. Apologies for the noob question. Is it possible to get banking apps, PayPal etc to work on lineage ? I've installed magisk but don't know how to configure it, even if it will do what I need. Is there a guide somewhere? Thanks.
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First of all, you will harm the security of your transactions if you wanted to use banking apps on a rooted phone.
Secondly, if such a banking app will work on a phone with root hidden by magisk, I would advise you to give up such an app or bank for the reason I mentioned in the first sentence.
ze7zez said:
First of all, you will harm the security of your transactions if you wanted to use banking apps on a rooted phone.
Secondly, if such a banking app will work on a phone with root hidden by magisk, I would advise you to give up such an app or bank for the reason I mentioned in the first sentence.
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Why.... precisely? Beyond the generic rubber-stamp warning that rooted/custom ROM devices lack the security of stock builds, what data do you have that proves that running banking apps on phones with root/custom ROMs is likely to result in theft of my money?
aneng64 said:
Why.... precisely? Beyond the generic rubber-stamp warning that rooted/custom ROM devices lack the security of stock builds, what data do you have that proves that running banking apps on phones with root/custom ROMs is likely to result in theft of my money?
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Generally speaking, this is how money can be stolen at the very least, but also more, since identity verification can also be done with bank accounts.
Do not combine "rooted" with "custom", as there is no close relationship.
Oh... I see. Thank you. I have no need for root to be honest. I just need to be running Lineage OS. Is that safe to use unrooted?
aneng64 said:
Oh... I see. Thank you. I have no need for root to be honest. I just need to be running Lineage OS. Is that safe to use unrooted?
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Root does not increase the level of safety. It's good for you to use the original LineageOS, if it exists for your phone, and not use TWRP. It's likely that the bank's app won't object.
Just started to using LineageOS official last release from there website ((lineage-19.1-20230302-nightly-pioneer-signed)) . i have there mindtegapps for google integration. the problem is my carrier money transfer app crashs and doesn't starts. before i changed to LineageOS. this app was working on my phone original rom. is there any thing i can do to try to fix it? like crash logs or something i can try? i tried Google Carrier Services and Android System WebView. but nothing changed. it still crashs. is there away i can know which is the last supprted OS for that app? i mean they could just have not updated there app to newest google framework. idk for sure i am just guessing.
the app name " Orange Cash "
PC is rooted by default. People use banking sites and programs on PCs.
Phone will require same steps to prevent money steal.
Generally it is not the rooted phone by itself is source of trouble but user actions.
If user installs shady autocraticker from google play and give permissions to it thief would not need root to steal money.
To send a link by email or messanger and ask to enters credit card information thief does not need root permissions.
Criminals don't expect phone to be rooted. They pray on inattentive users.
It is often possible to have control of your own device with root and use banking.
Some banks allow to use browser instead of app.
Bank usually would call on the phone to accept login and transactions for additional security.
Decision depends on how much money user has on banking account, and how careful he is.
veseihaty said:
PC is rooted by default. (...)
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That's why there are no PC banking applications/programs.
Using banking applications increases the security of transactions, which using only a web browser does not.
Thanks to apps, banks have the ability to continuously improve security on phones that have stopped getting security patches from the phone manufacturer. The use of push technology makes banking apps a cheap token.
The banks' action on this issue is beneficial to customers.
ze7zez said:
Generally speaking, this is how money can be stolen at the very least, but also more, since identity verification can also be done with bank accounts.
Do not combine "rooted" with "custom", as there is no close relationship.
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What are you talking about? Rooting means *the user* has control over the device, vs the manufacturer. Not giving the user root privileges is all about the manufacturing retaining control over what you do with the device, and being able to push its bloatware on you, and nothing to do with security.
HOW exactly does giving the user root access damage security in any way?
I'm gonna go ahead and say that not only having root access does NOT threaten security, but the other way around, it improves it, as I can remove all the unsafe apps the manufacturer bundled with my phone.
You are wrong, you were asked to back up your claims, and you did not actually do so.
almafuerte said:
What are you talking about? Rooting means *the user* has control over the device, vs the manufacturer. Not giving the user root privileges is all about the manufacturing retaining control over what you do with the device, and being able to push its bloatware on you, and nothing to do with security.
HOW exactly does giving the user root access damage security in any way?
I'm gonna go ahead and say that not only having root access does NOT threaten security, but the other way around, it improves it, as I can remove all the unsafe apps the manufacturer bundled with my phone.
You are wrong, you were asked to back up your claims, and you did not actually do so.
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Read the "Payment Services Directive 2", analyze, understand and acknowledge.
The XDA forum is for discussion, not for answering every question asked. That's what google is for, for example.
Yes, just use magisk delta.
ze7zez said:
Read the "Payment Services Directive 2", analyze, understand and acknowledge.
The XDA forum is for discussion, not for answering every question asked. That's what google is for, for example.
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Why should I care about a European regulation, considering I'm not in Europe, and my bank is not European?
Regardless, said spec doesn't really give ANY justification either as to *why* a rooted phone would actually be unsafer in any way.
You didn't say "Because a stupid spec says so", you said "because of security concerns", of which there aren't any.

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