My name is vicky , i am a normal user and using many phones past years ,and have big knowledge about flashing roms and recovery.
Currently i am using note 8 redmi and as usual Miui rom
My question is that many governments from many countries said that chinese app send private data to there communist party (china) , is that possible for a rom that can send such type of data to there parent (china) ?
I am an indian , and like other started boycotting china and there products ,but my pointer stuck at rom ,if ROM do same thing or not ?
Bcz it(Miui) does that then i want to switch to other custom rom
vickyfule said:
My name is vicky , i am a normal user and using many phones past years ,and have big knowledge about flashing roms and recovery.
Currently i am using note 8 redmi and as usual Miui rom
My question is that many governments from many countries said that chinese app send private data to there communist party (china) , is that possible for a rom that can send such type of data to there parent (china) ?
I am an indian , and like other started boycotting china and there products ,but my pointer stuck at rom ,if ROM do same thing or not ?
Bcz it(Miui) does that then i want to switch to other custom rom
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Such a loaded question. Since the hardware is from China anyway, the chips are made in China , so that fact if you use custom ROM or not, is little affect. Even with custom ROM made from source, the prebuilt device driver 'blobs' are China made.
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Hi,
I'm having Redmi 1s India version.
I installed Chinese ROM on Redmi 1s just to check n test the ROM. After that I did WipeAllData using recovery mode. And finally updated to 45 India ROM. After update I can still:
1. See the Theme app in Chinese lang. Like the most of themes are listed in Chinese lang and as far i can tell in India/Global ROM it will be purely in english and themes will be different.
2. Default browser is showing everything in Chinese.
3. If I do the factory reset few ofhe apps will not be there after reset like MI Chat messagner, flipkart app(anyway this can be ignored ), Office app etc. I cant see office app at all now.
What is going on? Even after flashing it with Global latest ROM, why still its behaving like Chinese ROM.
Could you please help out here?
P.S. I root it and before installing 45 Global ROM i unroot it.
Thanks
try some other rom. and then again flash the miui rom or MiRed rom which you'll find in development section.
SSRupal said:
What is going on? Even after flashing it with Global latest ROM, why still its behaving like Chinese ROM.
Thanks
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I played with my redmi in same way .....on the recieving day.... but there's a solution to it..
Since you removed all your data you wont mind flashing fastboot ROM ( Indian Version http://bigota.d.miui.com/JHCMIBF35.0/armani_global_images_JHCMIBF35.0_4.3_in_d693c8bd92.tgz )
There have been many updates latest being 45 ( still on Android 4.3 though )
DONOT delete factory reset /data Format in recoveries as all these apps ( WPS office / Flipkart and Country Zone info ) are in /data and Redmi behaves like a chinese device and scare you in browser and Theming apps.
Hi,
Im in Europe and a bit lost with redmi note 5 , pro or not pro.
I have here officialy the 4gbRam with sd636.
Front Camera is 13mp.
Here sold as redmi note 5 (pro) version.
Is it the pro version or not ?
Anyway, are the others diffs i should take care about ?
Are they both considered as whyred ?
rodolphe06 said:
Hi,
Im in Europe and a bit lost with redmi note 5 , pro or not pro.
I have here officialy the 4gbRam with sd636.
Front Camera is 13mp.
Here sold as redmi note 5 (pro) version.
Is it the pro version or not ?
Anyway, are the others diffs i should take care about ?
Are they both considered as whyred ?
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Hi
You have the Chinese version of the Redmi Note 5 the India version has a 20 no front camera.
Sent from my Nokia 7 plus using Tapatalk
Pro extension name is only really used in India, where they have the Redmi 5 Plus(Vince) relabeled as RN5.
Depending on what they seller provided, you might have China or Global Version.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/wiki/specs/redminote5
Thanks, last thing if i red correctly, i shall not worry anymore about :
- unlock bootloader global as it seems to work again no more error 81.....
- compatiblity with customs Roms
Correct ?
Also is/will global version be able to flash miui10 ?
I would like to taste, but surely prefer custom rom
@Stransky ahh you have the nokia7+. Wanted to buy it but this bootloader stuff frozed me
rodolphe06 said:
Thanks, last thing if i red correctly, i shall not worry anymore about :
- unlock bootloader global as it seems to work again no more error 81.....
- compatiblity with customs Roms
Correct ?
Also is/will global version be able to flash miui10 ?
I would like to taste, but surely prefer custom rom
@Stransky ahh you have the nokia7+. Wanted to buy it but this bootloader stuff frozed me
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Yes, you can flash miui10 !
-Make sure you have bootloader unlocked and TWRP. First make a full backup with TWRP.
-Also logout of your miui account.
-- files you need. Obviously you need the miui rom, lazyflasher-no-verity-opt-encrypt.zip and the google 3 installer (also magisk as you want to root)
Check on youtube on what to wipe and install procedure. If you have titanium you can backup your programs and settings too. I also use sms & calllog backup .
I would stay away from the custom roms for now as they are not as good at the moment (but will improve)
Hi,
there is a good offer for a Note 8, but it is the chinese version.
Which problems are to expect? What's to to switch the phone completly to a version to use in Germany?
Regards
Robert
robert_b said:
Hi,
there is a good offer for a Note 8, but it is the chinese version.
Which problems are to expect? What's to to switch the phone completly to a version to use in Germany?
Regards
Robert
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You can switch from chinese to global rom(or indian rom if you want inbuilt call recording option) after unlocking bootloader and debloat it all after rooting..Or maybe just flash custom roms .
robert_b said:
Hi,
there is a good offer for a Note 8, but it is the chinese version.
Which problems are to expect? What's to to switch the phone completly to a version to use in Germany?
Regards
Robert
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Hello Robert
I have ordered CN version Oct, and i have been using it ever since. Out of the box you will get 18w charger with adapter which is very good, i live in Bosina, both sims are working fine 4G works too. There is not much to be worried about in CN version it works great it gets latest builds of MIUI (compared to other versions). Only thing that was kinda a nitpick and kinda annoying for me from start is that you get few standard Chinese apps that you can delete, and some of main Mi apps keep giving notifications in CN like mi videos and very other few, but rarely and they can be blocked. When you power on a device for a first time and creating Mi account you will have to install gapps which you can do over integrated mi store as i can remember (just type google no need for Chinese fonts). After doing that and logging into your google account i recommend you to unlock bootloader, you will have to make a request for unlocking it takes 160+ hours for it to get approved. Install xiaomi.eu rom which is cleaned and optimized CN miui for global users with xiaomi devices and regular updates and builds. I am currently using xiaomi.eu rom its fast, it has also ability to update it with updater in system. Anyway it is up to your preference what you want from device, you can try to install global firmware without unlocked bootloader you can try, if you want or some other custom rom with unlocked bootloader.
Best regards
So, im tired of Google contacts and calendar...and my Poco F3 came with that pre-installed instead of Xiaomi/MIUI ones.
My question is: can i install via Mi Flashtools the ROM of Mi11i or Mi11x to archieve that?
I have try installing the apk for Miui contacts and dialer but they wont work, wont Open after installing. But the Miui calendar works fine.
Course i love the Miui stock launcher better than POCO launcher too.
Can i do what i say above?! Thanks
sun_is_shinning said:
So, im tired of Google contacts and calendar...and my Poco F3 came with that pre-installed instead of Xiaomi/MIUI ones.
My question is: can i install via Mi Flashtools the ROM of Mi11i or Mi11x to archieve that?
I have try installing the apk for Miui contacts and dialer but they wont work, wont Open after installing. But the Miui calendar works fine.
Course i love the Miui stock launcher better than POCO launcher too.
Can i do what i say above?! Thanks
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I suggest you unlock your bootloader and Flash a xiaomi.eu Rom(Lots of videos on YouTube FYI) via TWRP . It has MI Dialer and Contacts. Don't flash Stock ROM of other regions or sub brands.
Animesh Singh said:
I suggest you unlock your bootloader and Flash a xiaomi.eu Rom(Lots of videos on YouTube FYI) via TWRP . It has MI Dialer and Contacts. Don't flash Stock ROM of other regions or sub brands.
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I suggest flashing China ROM directly instead... Miui.eu is unstable garbage , feels like a bad custom ROM with all of it's FPS drops and random lag spikes.
I tried China developer build while I was on my downgrade spree and I can say performance was immensely better . Everything else tho not so much ...
Better than EU for sure but I prefer global over it. Google services and everything else...
sun_is_shinning said:
So, im tired of Google contacts and calendar...and my Poco F3 came with that pre-installed instead of Xiaomi/MIUI ones.
My question is: can i install via Mi Flashtools the ROM of Mi11i or Mi11x to archieve that?
I have try installing the apk for Miui contacts and dialer but they wont work, wont Open after installing. But the Miui calendar works fine.
Course i love the Miui stock launcher better than POCO launcher too.
Can i do what i say above?! Thanks
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Unlock your bootloader & flash Xiaomi.eu Custom ROM. It's the best version of MIUI and includes Mi Phone (with Call Rec) & Mi Contacts.
The China ROM doesn't contain Google Services and is generally not optimised for Use outside of that region.
dreamytom said:
Sounds like user error.
Unlock your bootloader & flash Xiaomi.eu Custom ROM. It's the best version of MIUI and includes Mi Phone (with Call Rec) & Mi Contacts. Don't flash Mi 11X ROM onto the Poco F3.
And don't flash the China ROM. It doesn't contain Google Services and is generally not optimised for Use outside of that region.
The user above me is full of ****.
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Lmao man you shouldn't be qualified to talk about performance at all. Based on your post from before your use case scenario is so light that you can't even notice lack of performance from 870 chips.
I've talked to users having same issue I've described literally few days ago , on top of that I've tried myself both EU and VN versions and both felt like custom ROMs in terms of severe performance instability. So much so that I'm not using either of those but waiting for features in those ROMs to come to global users.
Have you flashed China ROM ???
Tried it for yourself before calling someone out ? I really doubt that's the case. It feels and performs leagues above miui VN or EU
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Lmao man you shouldn't be qualified to talk about performance at all. Based on your post from before your use case scenario is so light that you can't even notice lack of performance from 870 chips.
I've talked to users having same issue I've described literally few days ago , on top of that I've tried myself both EU and VN versions and both felt like custom ROMs in terms of severe performance instability. So much so that I'm not using either of those but waiting for features in those ROMs to come to global users.
Have you flashed China ROM ???
Tried it for yourself before calling someone out ? I really doubt that's the case. It feels and performs leagues above miui VN or EU
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I've never used China ROM, but Xiaomi.eu Custom ROM is based on China ROM...how can performance be much different ? Android Vanilla is much more smooth for sure, but.. the China ROM ?
You also say Global is better than EU/EEA, but there isn't much difference. The EU ROM just tries to be GDPR comform.
Edit: I've also run Geekbench Benchmark on my Xiaomi.eu ROM and its about what I expect. Other phones with SD 870 have similar results. The clunky feeling comes from MIUI in general...
dreamytom said:
I've never used China ROM, but Xiaomi.eu Custom ROM is based on China ROM...how can performance be much different ? Android Vanilla is much more smooth for sure, but.. the China ROM ?
Sorry for saying you're full of sh*t, but you also say Global is better than EU/EEA, but there isn't much difference. The EU ROM just tries to be GDPR comform.
Edit: I've also run Geekbench Benchmark on my Xiaomi.eu ROM and its about what I expect. Other phones with SD 870 have similar results. The clunky feeling comes from MIUI in general...
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dreamytom said:
I've never used China ROM, but Xiaomi.eu Custom ROM is based on China ROM...how can performance be much different ? Android Vanilla is much more smooth for sure, but.. the China ROM ?
Sorry for saying you're full of sh*t, but you also say Global is better than EU/EEA, but there isn't much difference. The EU ROM just tries to be GDPR comform.
Edit: I've also run Geekbench Benchmark on my Xiaomi.eu ROM and its about what I expect. Other phones with SD 870 have similar results. The clunky feeling comes from MIUI in general...
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Nah the geekbank benchmark makes 0 sense when we are talking about random frame drops and stuttering lmao... But anyways it still is worse for you so yeah.....
Those random lags and stutters that you blame miui for are nonexistent on proper miui ROMs - China or global , I moved to get away from the stuttering and **** performance and am happy to report I've seen next to none ever since.
Idk what miui EU Devs are doing but it's essentially custom ROM regardless , they broke something 100% , be it by removing functionality from some crucial miui service or whatever the performance is not there.
EU version is supposed to offer higher performance in all use case scenarios over global by allowing for higher thermal limits when performance mode is activated , yet the experience is much worse with or without performance mode....
China or global only , miui EU is a joke. Based on China but trying to imitate global and ends up being worse than both lmao
Rstment ^m^ said:
Nah the geekbank benchmark makes 0 sense when we are talking about random frame drops and stuttering lmao... But anyways it still is worse for you so yeah.....
Those random lags and stutters that you blame miui for are nonexistent on proper miui ROMs - China or global , I moved to get away from the stuttering and **** performance and am happy to report I've seen next to none ever since.
Idk what miui EU Devs are doing but it's essentially custom ROM regardless , they broke something 100% , be it by removing functionality from some crucial miui service or whatever the performance is not there.
EU version is supposed to offer higher performance in all use case scenarios over global by allowing for higher thermal limits when performance mode is activated , yet the experience is much worse with or without performance mode....
China or global only , miui EU is a joke. Based on China but trying to imitate global and ends up being worse than both lmao
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I'm talking about Xiaomi.eu Custom ROM, not Stock MIUI for EU region, those are 2 different things.
If you have problems, run 3DMark Firestrike and compare against other SD 870 phones.
dreamytom said:
I'm talking about Xiaomi.eu Custom ROM, not Stock MIUI for EU region, those are 2 different things.
If you have problems, run 3DMark Firestrike and compare against other SD 870 phones.
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I know what you're talking about lmao read better before you jump to reply.
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I know what you're talking about lmao read better before you jump to reply.
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I have read it, but it's hard to tell from your messages if were talking about the Custom ROM. Some people mistake Xiaomi.eu for official Xiaomi ROMs for Europe.
Regardless there isn't much difference between Global & EEA. EEA has a toggle for ads directly in the Android Setup while the other doesn't, and some other changes so its GDPR compliant. There are no differences regarding performance.
I agree that China ROMs are the best if you want pure performance on MIUI. People only use xiaomi.eu because it's convenient, but it can never be the same as the official stuffs, after all it's just a frankenstein ROM that was modified directly then released without any actual optimization.
Saphira209 said:
I agree that China ROMs are the best if you want pure performance on MIUI. People only use xiaomi.eu because it's convenient, but it can never be the same as the official stuffs, after all it's just a frankenstein ROM that was modified directly then released without any actual optimization.
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im about to unlock my bootloader today cause the thing of "wait 168 hours" sh*t" and today i have free time...
One last question, xiaomi.eu ROM have the dolby atmos built in as the stock ROM?! Thanks in advance.
sun_is_shinning said:
im about to unlock my bootloader today cause the thing of "wait 168 hours" sh*t" and today i have free time...
One last question, xiaomi.eu ROM have the dolby atmos built in as the stock ROM?! Thanks in advance.
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Yeah
Hello people.
If I want to flash stock firmware with "MiFlash" do I have to unlock the device and the bootloader?
I mean, it is stock firmware.
Also, wondering if this applies if I want to flash the Mi 11x firmware?
Currently running Global firmware for Poco F3, MIUI 12.5.4.
I used to have Samsung before and flash all the time, but since they started with the Knox tripping thing I stopped and now I'm a little rusted.
I changed to Xiami and couldn't be happier.
Thanks for your support
jpdediego said:
Hello people.
If I want to flash stock firmware with "MiFlash" do I have to unlock the device and the bootloader?
I mean, it is stock firmware.
Also, wondering if this applies if I want to flash the Mi 11x firmware?
Currently running Global firmware for Poco F3, MIUI 12.5.4.
I used to have Samsung before and flash all the time, but since they started with the Knox tripping thing I stopped and now I'm a little rusted.
I changed to Xiami and couldn't be happier.
Thanks for your support
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For Official ROMs, unlocking bootloader is not necessary. Why do you want to flash the ROM of a different phone? Not recommended doing that...
dreamytom said:
For Official ROMs, unlocking bootloader is not necessary. Why do you want to flash the ROM of a different phone? I don't recommend doing that.
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Well, the bottom line will be just to test and see the difference between MIUI and Poco MIUI.
And it will be only with Mi 11x firmware which is the same phone but "different" brand, no intention of flashing the shark firmware for instance.
I've noticed some difference with my wife's Mi11 and I liked the dialer and she can sort regents in horizontal way.
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dreamytom said:
I think you won't be able to flash a different phones' ROM. Aren't you afraid it would brick your device? The ROM is for a different phone!
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Well, that's why I'm asking here.
At the end it is the same rebranded phone.
Must important will know how to unbrick it just in case
Not sure if I'll try at all
Haha
The difference is the model. Poco F3 and Redmi K40 are the alioth model, while Mi 11X is aliothin. Most custom roms makes the distinction between models at flashing, who isn't the case for stock. There's the slight chance to brick the phone while flashing the China version, plus the baseband aren't the same.
If you like to test pure MIUI instead of Poco MIUI, why not instead extract the desired APKs in Mi 11X ROM and replace them in your Poco F3?
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I have an Indonesian Poco F3. Since Novemeber last year I'm using it with the global firmware and a custom ROM. Back then the only recommended firmware for the ROM was global and I just sticked to that. However, other Regions are also recommended now and I was thinking about switching to the fitting region. But so far I didn't encounter any issues with the global firmware.
Are there any benefits when switch to the region specific firmware, compared to global (I use the phone in Europe at the moment)?
What are really the differences between those firmwares? I couldn't find any useful information on that. I can not image there are hardware differences, since I use another region for several months now and didn't encounter any issues.
Boracho said:
I have an Indonesian Poco F3. Since Novemeber last year I'm using it with the global firmware and a custom ROM. Back then the only recommended firmware for the ROM was global and I just sticked to that. However, other Regions are also recommended now and I was thinking about switching to the fitting region. But so far I didn't encounter any issues with the global firmware.
Are there any benefits when switch to the region specific firmware, compared to global (I use the phone in Europe at the moment)?
What are really the differences between those firmwares? I couldn't find any useful information on that. I can not image there are hardware differences, since I use another region for several months now and didn't encounter any issues.
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The differences are in the themes and some apps like Music which is limited depending on the region where you use the phone, the Indonesian has call recording like the Taiwain and China (Miui dialer) the other Google dialer and google messages, EEA rom for Europe applies GDPR or GDPR.
A lot goes to the Indonesian for the Miui dialer and which has several languages unlike that of China which remains the most evolved.
EUXM=EEA Europe
MIXM=Global
TRXM=Turkey
RUXM=Russia
INXM=India
JPXM=Japan
IDXM=Indonesia
TWXM=Taiwan
CNXM=China
DEV=Public Beta
Have you tried these roms, better than stock and Miui dialer.
Weekly https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/22-8-10.66578/
Stable https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/miui-13-stable-release.64441/
NOSS8 said:
The differences are in the themes and some apps like Music which is limited depending on the region where you use the phone, the Indonesian has call recording like the Taiwain and China (Miui dialer) the other Google dialer and google messages, EEA rom for Europe applies GDPR or GDPR.
A lot goes to the Indonesian for the Miui dialer and which has several languages unlike that of China which remains the most evolved.
EUXM=EEA Europe
MIXM=Global
TRXM=Turkey
RUXM=Russia
INXM=India
JPXM=Japan
IDXM=Indonesia
TWXM=Taiwan
CNXM=China
DEV=Public Beta
Have you tried these roms, better than stock and Miui dialer.
Weekly https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/22-8-10.66578/
Stable https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/miui-13-stable-release.64441/
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Nice to know, but I was not talking about the ROM, its only about the firmware.
Boracho said:
Nice to know, but I was not talking about the ROM, its only about the firmware.
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" I use another region for several months now and didn't encounter any issues."
You have changed the rom version, the firmware is included.
The firmware allows the os to work and is specific to your device.
For example: Chinese firmware is for Chinese rom rom.
Whatever the region of the firmware their size is identical and contains exactly the same files but the coding is different.
Xiaomi EU rom use firmware Global ou Chinese to be able to adapt their roms to all devices.
For AOSP roms it's different, since they don't use MIUI OS, the OP can recommend any firmwares.
You can see here that the size of the roms is different according to the regions.
https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/miui/alioth/
And that the firmware have the same size
https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/firmware/alioth/stable/V13.0.7.0.SKHEUXM/
https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/firmware/alioth/stable/V13.0.6.0.SKHCNXM/
Firmware is a type of software that is etched directly into a piece of hardware. It operates without going through APIs, the operating system, or device drivers—providing the needed instructions and guidance for the device to communicate with other devices or perform a set of basic tasks and functions as intended.
NOSS8 said:
" I use another region for several months now and didn't encounter any issues."
You have changed the rom version, the firmware is included.
The firmware allows the os to work and is specific to your device.
For example: Chinese firmware is for Chinese rom rom.
Whatever the region of the firmware their size is identical and contains exactly the same files but the coding is different.
Xiaomi EU rom use firmware Global ou Chinese to be able to adapt their roms to all devices.
For AOSP roms it's different, since they don't use MIUI OS, the OP can recommend any firmwares.
You can see here that the size of the roms is different according to the regions.
https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/miui/alioth/
And that the firmware have the same size
https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/firmware/alioth/stable/V13.0.7.0.SKHEUXM/
https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/firmware/alioth/stable/V13.0.6.0.SKHCNXM/
Firmware is a type of software that is etched directly into a piece of hardware. It operates without going through APIs, the operating system, or device drivers—providing the needed instructions and guidance for the device to communicate with other devices or perform a set of basic tasks and functions as intended.
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I use Lineage, there is no firmware included. In fact, users have problems when using the wrong firmware all the time.
Boracho said:
I use Lineage, there is no firmware included. In fact, users have problems when using the wrong firmware all the time.
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" I use another region for several months now and didn't encounter any issues."
You have changed the rom version, the firmware is included. MIUI ROM
https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/alioth/install
Boracho said:
I have an Indonesian Poco F3. Since Novemeber last year I'm using it with the global firmware and a custom ROM. Back then the only recommended firmware for the ROM was global and I just sticked to that. However, other Regions are also recommended now and I was thinking about switching to the fitting region. But so far I didn't encounter any issues with the global firmware.
Are there any benefits when switch to the region specific firmware, compared to global (I use the phone in Europe at the moment)?
What are really the differences between those firmwares? I couldn't find any useful information on that. I can not image there are hardware differences, since I use another region for several months now and didn't encounter any issues.
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In firmware you have only your phone drivers,like Bluetooth,wifi, network.In regions,the different things in fw are modem and audio drivers.This is why if you flash wrong fw you will have problems with your network/wifi connection and video/audio will be laggy.
NOSS8 said:
" I use another region for several months now and didn't encounter any issues."
You have changed the rom version, the firmware is included. MIUI ROM
https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/alioth/install
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Hey bro, as I said the firmware is not included in the custom ROM. You need to extract it from official ROM. See here: https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/alioth/fw_update
Again my question is if anyone *KNOWS* what and if they are differences in the different Firmware regions, and when to use which region. I don't care about the ROM, my question is just about the firmware.
You confuse CUSTOM ROM as Xiaomi Eu rom and AOSP ROM which are most often port rom from Google Pixel.