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[Q] CM Roms / Call Quality

Is anyone else experiencing an extremely muffled in call mic with CM roms? I have tried several different CM/CM based roms and all are doing the same thing. Both 4.3 and 4.4 roms. Wife started complaining that she couldn't hear me soon after I flashed a CM rom, so I left myself a voicemail, flashed back to a stock based rom, and left another voicemail. Difference is night and day. I have tried reflashing the stock radio over top of the CM flash, but no noticeable difference.
Anyone else experiencing this, or have any ideas on how to fix? This is very annoying, but not enough to make me give up Kit Kat. I usually just talk louder into the phone.

Are you on T-Mobile?
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Sorry. I should have included that in the original post. E980 on AT&T

argolfermd said:
Sorry. I should have included that in the original post. E980 on AT&T
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It's a known issue with no fix in sight. What's worse is using the speakerphone. There's a huge amount of ocho.
After struggling with this device for some weeks, I finally sold it, and honestly, do regret that. Even with stock ROM, it was a great value for the money, but I'm sorta hoping for something similar in the future.
IF the LGOG Pro had an unlocked bootloader and was as fully supported and functional as other devices by CM/AOSP, it would probably have been the last device I ever bought until it literally could not power on anymore.
It's such a shame that LG has abandoned it the way that they have, but if you've ever wondered why LG is getting their ass handed to them in the smartphone market by Samdung, this lazy attitude toward supporting fantastic hardware is a good example to illustrate why.
Their solution is to simply leave the market and put their focus elsewhere.
So sad.
Where's the company that understands how powerfully they could position themselves in the market by being friendly with the Open Source community?
They don't exist.

[Q] Non-carrier firmware vs carrier firmware

Hello all,
I'm just wondering, do you guys notice or know of any real difference b/t the unlocked/non-carrier firmware that's out there and the carrier-specific firmware from T-Mobile for the M8? Is one considered better than the other?
Please share your thoughts with us!
Thank You,
RockStar2005

RockStar2005 said:
Hello all,
I'm just wondering, do you guys notice or know of any real difference b/t the unlocked/non-carrier firmware that's out there and the carrier-specific firmware from T-Mobile for the M8? Is one considered better than the other?
Please share your thoughts with us!
Thank You,
RockStar2005
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I know my experience with the M7 (yes i know its an M8 forum but still somewhat relevant) is Yes, the carrier firmware was better.
I had a Stock TMO branded M7. I did the full conversion to make it a GPe unit. It was nice but i had some signal issues. It was better with the TMO radios but ultimately i put it back to stock TMO and for me i got the best results like that.

IAmSixNine said:
I know my experience with the M7 (yes i know its an M8 forum but still somewhat relevant) is Yes, the carrier firmware was better.
I had a Stock TMO branded M7. I did the full conversion to make it a GPe unit. It was nice but i had some signal issues. It was better with the TMO radios but ultimately i put it back to stock TMO and for me i got the best results like that.
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No I think the M7 experience is definitely still relevant!
Ok, you're the first one so far here to say that. So the radios change based on the firmware? Why is that? I mean, why would the radios be affected by the firmware? Seems to me it'd be better to leave the radios alone and let them remain how they came.
My previous OTA was from T-Mobile, but in order to get updated ViperOne M8, I had to get the firmware for 2.22 and T-Mo wasn't deploying it. They apparently just approved it on the 18th, but as u prob read above, I'm not even sure if they've deployed it, and what it contains. I seem to have as much signal quality as before. I just wish they'd have VoLTE deployed for the M8s. That would be great.
RockStar2005

I have been with T-Mobile less then 2 years. Prior to that i was with sprint over 10 years. I got most of my "radio" experience flashing different radios for the Samsung GS2.
That device was super finikey when it came to radios. I also found at the time that 3 different network vendors set up most of the CDMA network in the USA for Sprint. So for me having a specific radio work well meant that same one might not work so well up north. Samsung was also known to not have very good hardware / antennas (when i say radios i am referring to the firmware for the specific device.) So while my devices hardware stayed the same Samsung was making software tweaks during each revision of software.
But to keep it simple, Yes, different versions of radios can work differently in each device. Thats even with stock radios. Then if you add stuff like a GPe radio to a stock unit, or what i had with my M7 using a GPe ROM with a TMO radio. It always pains me to see people who post about using carrier A phone unlocked with carrier B network. Those people will never get the most out of their hardware network wise because carrier B has worked with the manufacturer to make sure their device is created to be specific to their network. Sure an unlocked will work but not at 100% efficiency. It could be a hardware limitation, could be some software that is baked into the ROM to make it work better, or even as simple as TMO baking in WiFi calling with their network.
I mean look what happened to the Note 3 for TMO. Originally it shipped with LTE not even enabled. The hardware was there then BAM, with an OTA LTE was enabled. Flash forward to the last few months, 2 separate updates for VoLTE. Those are radios updates that are specific to the hardware in the Note 3.
Hopefully someone else can chime in as well. Id hate to think im the only one.

Six,
No you explained that rather well! My cousin has the Note 3 so I know what u said about the last part (on VoLTE) is def true. I wish HTC would hurry the F up and give us M8 ppl VoLTE. Would be nice. And make it available everywhere, not just major cities (it's avail in Chicago, but I live 25-30 min away).
I have a buddy who works for U.S. Cellular corporate, and he said the same thing. Unlocked phones, esp ones sold by one carrier but used on another's network, don't work AS well as when the phone is made for your carrier's network. International phones at least I believe work fine if released OFFICIALLY in the U.S. (i.e., Sony's Xperia Z2, which is ONLY avail that way in the U.S.), because they've been tested on ALL carrier networks/bands, but that's diff than using say a Sprint phone on T-Mobile's network, I believe. (Or using a phone that wasn't approved for all the major U.S. carriers.)
So far you're the only who seems pro-carrier firmware/OTAs, but that's ok. That's why I started this thread, so I can get all sides of the story. But if you read the previous posts, the other posters make a compelling argument that's pro-noncarrier. It sounds like in my situation I'm fine, b/c I'm pretty sure the int't M8 was tested on T-Mo's bands already. The firmware would just go along with that same data, so I don't think I'm having any loss of quality. Now if I carrier-unlocked my phone and tried it on Sprint or Verizon, or even AT&T......... then I would expect a loss of quality at some level.
Thanks,
RockStar2005

Agreed. I see merits in both custom roms, stock roms, GPe Roms and Cyanogen.
Back in the GS2 days i was a big fan of using some of those custom ROMS guys would cook up. It fixed a lot of issues with Android.
But for ME, since 4.2.2 and up, i have been happy with stock ROMs.
In fact i almost always ran custom roms on my older devices and only recently started to leave them stock.
The last thing was when TMO gave me 3 GB free tethering, that was the last thing i might have rooted for.
My note 3 is stock, my M8 is still stock. and my back up M7 is stock (after putting GPe on it for a few weeks and testing stuff out).
I for one use my M8 as my daily phone and my Note 3 as my back up / game device.
For example, today at lunch i had local news streaming on my M8 while my Note 3 was tethered to my M8. On my Note 3 i was playing a few games while i waited for my food then answered a few emails and chatted with a friend on Hangouts.
With TMOs recent 4.4.3 update my M8 seems to run better then before and i feel im getting better battery life out of it.
Cant wait for my Note 3 to get 4.4.3 or 4.4.4. Also really looking forward to Android L on both of the units.
The way i look at it is what are YOUR pros and cons. LOL.

IAmSixNine said:
Agreed. I see merits in both custom roms, stock roms, GPe Roms and Cyanogen.
Back in the GS2 days i was a big fan of using some of those custom ROMS guys would cook up. It fixed a lot of issues with Android.
But for ME, since 4.2.2 and up, i have been happy with stock ROMs.
In fact i almost always ran custom roms on my older devices and only recently started to leave them stock.
The last thing was when TMO gave me 3 GB free tethering, that was the last thing i might have rooted for.
My note 3 is stock, my M8 is still stock. and my back up M7 is stock (after putting GPe on it for a few weeks and testing stuff out).
I for one use my M8 as my daily phone and my Note 3 as my back up / game device.
For example, today at lunch i had local news streaming on my M8 while my Note 3 was tethered to my M8. On my Note 3 i was playing a few games while i waited for my food then answered a few emails and chatted with a friend on Hangouts.
With TMOs recent 4.4.3 update my M8 seems to run better then before and i feel im getting better battery life out of it.
Cant wait for my Note 3 to get 4.4.3 or 4.4.4. Also really looking forward to Android L on both of the units.
The way i look at it is what are YOUR pros and cons. LOL.
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My "pros and cons" list involves having all pros and NO cons! lol
I think I'll prob just wait for the T-Mo OTAs from now on, but then again, b/c I have ViperOne, I won't know when they get deployed unless I constantly revert back to stock. Ughh! I guess so far I haven't really noticed a difference in signal and call quality since installing a non-carrier firmware, though it's only been like not even 2 weeks yet since I did it.
That's cool though that you're so happy with it. Perhaps your posts are an indication that T-Mobile has gotten better with their overall quality, and so that's something to look forward to for when I do go back to stock (whenever that is lol).
Thank You,
RockStar2005

Most people make a big deal about carrier OTAs. So you really dont need to revert back to check for them. As long as your active on the boards you will know when a device gets an OTA.
I failed to mention that part of why im happy with stock is because devices are now getting to the point where they are so fast that having bloat ware on them doesnt noticeably slow down the devices like they used to. At least i dont notice it. Pluse with 4.2.2 they allow you to "disable" most apps you dont want to use. So thats another plus.
Back in the day i used to root and do the custom ROM for extra battery life, or tethering, or to make the device snappier.
I honestly would have thought that someone else might have chimed in by now and added their 2 cents.

IAmSixNine said:
Most people make a big deal about carrier OTAs. So you really dont need to revert back to check for them. As long as your active on the boards you will know when a device gets an OTA.
I failed to mention that part of why im happy with stock is because devices are now getting to the point where they are so fast that having bloat ware on them doesnt noticeably slow down the devices like they used to. At least i dont notice it. Pluse with 4.2.2 they allow you to "disable" most apps you dont want to use. So thats another plus.
Back in the day i used to root and do the custom ROM for extra battery life, or tethering, or to make the device snappier.
I honestly would have thought that someone else might have chimed in by now and added their 2 cents.
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Six,
Yeah, that's true. Or I can check on T-Mobile's update site, though there may still be some delay b/c of how they deploy OTAs: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-10366
I've noticed that too, and before I got ViperOne and also Titanium Backup, I was disabling several apps too. Though I prefer to just uninstall them.
RockStar2005

Six,
I talked to one of the ppl at Team Venom, and he said he has T-Mobile and recommends just taking T-Mobile's firmware updates for better cell reception. I'll do that from now on. But for now, if anyone is interested, I have here a link to the latest radio image file for the M8 (as of 8/27). Just download and "install flash" in TWRP.
And if you're rooted and want to get rid of the "red splash" screen during boot-up, try flashing the attached mod! :victory:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/beucjivbc4i9y3u/RadioUpdate_2.22.531.5_1.19.213311491.03G.zip
Thank You,
RockStar2005

So... My question now.. I'm one of those buy vzw m8 take over to T-Mobile. I'm running viper 2.3. It runs great. But vzw never updated to newest firmware.so my question I guess is... Can I flash a T-Mobile radio or firmware to my vzw phone? I kinda know the answer, but I'd rather ask. So if I can.. that'll be great!
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I know on the M7 that would brick the unit.
The CDMA and GSM units had different hardware and flashing any GSM ROM into a CDMA unit bricked them.
I want to say the same holds for the M8.
Can someone else confirm that for me?

IAmSixNine said:
I know on the M7 that would brick the unit.
The CDMA and GSM units had different hardware and flashing any GSM ROM into a CDMA unit bricked them.
I want to say the same holds for the M8.
Can someone else confirm that for me?
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Yeah thanks I kinda figured that, but you know it never hurts to ask, especially if it has the potential to maybe work out.
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Then maybe would it be better for me when Verizon gets the ota for 4.4.3.... I should implement that, and then.... Redo my rom?
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Could we use the Linux kernel bug CVE-2015-1805 to root our LG G4's running MM?

I don't know how this will be able to help our situation with locked bootloaders, but I am sure the intelligent among us could somehow use this.

I suppose this would be possible. But I'm pretty sure LG will close that with the next security update (if they can be bothered to issue one, we're still waiting for the February update.)

xrad said:
I suppose this would be possible. But I'm pretty sure LG will close that with the next security update (if they can be bothered to issue one, we're still waiting for the February update.)
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http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-updates-lg-g3-and-g4-march-security-patch? now I wish H815 would get it. Amazing to see a carrier phone appear to get this first.

xrad said:
I suppose this would be possible. But I'm pretty sure LG will close that with the next security update (if they can be bothered to issue one, we're still waiting for the February update.)
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Yes, that is true. But the choice of updating is in the hands of the user. I am sure a lot of people want to use MM on their G4 but cannot let go of root. This can/may provide a middle-ground for these people. They can have root and MM, albeit an outdated version, which in my opinion is better than nothing.

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Yes, that is true. But the choice of updating is in the hands of the user. I am sure a lot of people want to use MM on their G4 but cannot let go of root. This can/may provide a middle-ground for these people. They can have root and MM, albeit an outdated version, which in my opinion is better than nothing.
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I agree considering I'm still on LP because I will not let go of my root access. I'm in no rush to upgrade either but it doesn't hurt to not be too left behind compared to my brother

spartan268 said:
I agree considering I'm still on LP because I will not let go of my root access. I'm in no rush to upgrade either but it doesn't hurt to not be too left behind compared to my brother
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I was foolish enough to update to MM, I've since stopped using the device completely except for answering calls, and I am really sad about that. With the leather back, curved screen, replaceable battery, and back buttons this is one of my top phones. Yes, I know I can downgrade, but I don't want to be bothered by that. I like the new MM features enough to not downgrade, yet I hate not having root, the ad-blocking, the tweaking of my phone to my liking. I've already decided on not buying any phones except nexus. But sadly I am stuck with this phone till the next nexus comes out.

Hello,
I was wondering if someone with the right skills could do it.
https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2015-1805
In the bug's description it's said that Linux kernels before 3.16 are affected by this, I'm using 20e which runs 3.10.84 so theoretically exploitable.
I work with software development but web/mainframe mainly, anyone with a few hax0r skills willing to work on this?
I would certainly donate for this cause.

Hey, LG, why not unlock the bootloader so we can update what you can't?

Seriously. Why doesn't LG unlock the bootloader on these phones so that we can get custom updated roms? They're abysmal at releasing updates, and that locked bootloader is the only thing holding us back from having a much better device. My factory unlocked G8 hasn't received a single update since release. This is pathetic.

I advise everyone not to mess around within the options menu of the new update. It's a buggy mess. LG tried to act like they are pushing out updates, instead they released a glitchy crap for OS10. My "2nd display" button doesn't do anything anymore, I'm about to do a factory reset the 3rd time since the update. (Sprint unlocked LG G8). As of now, this phone is unreliable to be used as a daily driver.

dollarpapa said:
I advise everyone not to mess around within the options menu of the new update. It's a buggy mess. LG tried to act like they are pushing out updates, instead they released a glitchy crap for OS10. My "2nd display" button doesn't do anything anymore, I'm about to do a factory reset the 3rd time since the update. (Sprint unlocked LG G8). As of now, this phone is unreliable to be used as a daily driver.
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Weird. I was on the 20a beta and had 0 bugs other than animations, which I ended up using another app for

antintin said:
Weird. I was on the 20a beta and had 0 bugs other than animations, which I ended up using another app for
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Bro how do I downgrade, so that I get the official update please help me since I have the sprint version too, did you do that? Or are you still in beta 20a

Yhamel23 said:
Bro how do I downgrade, so that I get the official update please help me since I have the sprint version too, did you do that? Or are you still in beta 20a
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I can't update cause it's broken I'm still on pie. Join the LG V50 telegram group to get the updated downgrade guide

While I don't have any comments on this particular issue, it is kind of ridiculous that the community could update the phone to Android 10 almost instantaneously, whereas the lag introduced by phone manufacturer AND phone plan provider results in enormous delays on the order of 6-months to never.

They released the bootloader unlock for the V50 but not the G8 which makes my brain go "???"...
really can't wrap my head around it. They just dodge questions about it too. Stupid company.

Frau Son said:
They released the bootloader unlock for the V50 but not the G8 which makes my brain go "???"...
really can't wrap my head around it. They just dodge questions about it too. Stupid company.
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Only for the European v50 anyway which few people have

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Only for the European v50 anyway which few people have
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that's usually the case
I don't have a problem with that because I myself own an G8S, so the European variant of the G8
we'll see what's going to happen (probably nothing, because LG is made of a bunch of id*ots apparantly)

Question Pixel 6/Pixel 6 Pro December update PAUSED

Welp, it's about time they finally said it:
Pixel 6 December Update Situation Just Got Worse
Google confirms it has paused the December update for Pixel 6 lineup due to connectivity bug. When is a fix coming? Not until late January.
www.droid-life.com

And there you have what many had thought! Good old googleeeee

So for the few like myself that got it pushed to my phone on MetroPCS (TMobile), what does that mean? I haven't had any dropped calls but my speeds have been slower and battery has been worse than what I remember with November patch.

According to the post, if you aren’t experiencing issues after the update, no action is required and just rock out until the late January update. Unless you want to factory reset and revert back to the November update.

selayan said:
So for the few like myself that got it pushed to my phone on MetroPCS (TMobile), what does that mean? I haven't had any dropped calls but my speeds have been slower and battery has been worse than what I remember with November patch.
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I doubt if it means anything. You can always flash the November image, although dirty flashing (not wiping), especially when "downgrading" can cause more issues and trouble than it's worth. Hopefully this Monday, January 3rd we'll get the regular monthly update, and if so, your current December version will be superseded anyway. Edit: I missed that the source Google article said fixes would come out in late January, so I'm now not expecting a new update until then or even the first Monday of February.

Im alright without the Dec. update, no issues with mine besides the AOD all of sudden does no respond. Found an an app that took care of that issue plus not notification indicator now

Figures, I already factory reset last week after the December update so I wouldn't want to flash a stock November image at this point. I have some other issues with the phone like the one user posted with lines across the screen on videos but have not been able to get in contact with support. Will try to after the holidays and hope they don't give me the run around.

I'd really like to know where the fault is. The modem or some other partition?
In November, I would drop calls in dead spots. In December I would just lose call audio and have to call that person back.

More fan fair:
Google paused the December Pixel 6 update, but is just admitting to it now
The Google Pixel 6 December 2021 update rolled out to a select few. Now, Google is finally admitting that update's problems.
www.androidauthority.com

Boo Google! What the heck is going on? Late January?
I guess I'll be using my 4 XL one more month then...

I guess Google now knows why Samsung doesn't use their own modems in their phones, especially in the US.
But hey.....look at all these cool animations they introduced in A12

It's a very capable modem but no other phone on the market has it. Samsung hasn't documented any differences from the international S20 or S21. Only thing it doesn't seem to support the moment is VoNR for voice over 5G.
But I've said this previously, Samsung rewrote the modem for December. The blame likely lies with them.

I have a really bad feeling about all of this.

So also on the Dec update and things seemed good until I noticed today that my Amazon apps (Music and Shopping) both appear to be crashing and complaining about either Chrome not being updated (when it IS), and/or no internet connectivity, when both 5G and/or WiFi are available and all other stuff works fine.
Not sure if this is related at all, but this only started today after I tried to install Amazon shopping, now Music and Shopping don't work right.

I had the same problem with Amazon apps. I was able to get them to work by disconnecting my VPN.

banshee28 said:
So also on the Dec update and things seemed good until I noticed today that my Amazon apps (Music and Shopping) both appear to be crashing and complaining about either Chrome not being updated (when it IS), and/or no internet connectivity, when both 5G and/or WiFi are available and all other stuff works fine.
Not sure if this is related at all, but this only started today after I tried to install Amazon shopping, now Music and Shopping don't work right.
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LLStarks said:
It's a very capable modem but no other phone on the market has it. Samsung hasn't documented any differences from the international S20 or S21. Only thing it doesn't seem to support the moment is VoNR for voice over 5G.
But I've said this previously, Samsung rewrote the modem for December. The blame likely lies with them.
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Lol "capable" modem.. Ok buddy

opz187 said:
Lol "capable" modem.. Ok buddy
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Capable as in it can combine 5G signals when most other phones can't or don't have it enabled.
I was worried earlier this year that it couldn't. I should've worried more about all these goodies and even basic call functionality being untested.

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Nice, thanks man! Worked perfectly.
Now I did temp disable AdAway earlier and that did not seem to fix it, maybe I did not fully restart the app then, but now its good.
Now on my previous LG V60 I used AdGuard for years and had no issues with Amazon apps, not sure why AdAway would be different?

LOL ... "If you aren’t experiencing issues after the update, no action is required and you’re apparently very fortunate." (Google: "If you are not experiencing mobile connectivity issues, no action is required.") ... not exactly a very solid (software) engineering analysis ...
Apparently I'm one of those "very fortunate" people ... upgraded manually and I have not had any issues at all since the upgrade (4G network in Belgium). On the contrary, since upgraded, phone has been working flawlessly for me.
Hopefully we'll get a bit better explanation than just "we found and fixed the problem".
Happy end of year festivities for all of you ... stay healthy and safe !