Battery replacement: slow charging? - Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers

Here we goes guys,
I finally received all parts to refresh my Panda Pixel 2XL.
New screen (Ixifit)
New USB-C port (Ixifit)
New battery
New display adhesive
Because I'm on reddit, I shared my experience and a nice guys tell me this:
'You will have charging problems after you replace the battery. I've done a few, all "original batteries", two of the phones charging times went from two hours to 8-9 hours to fully charge.'
"Maybe you have gotten a different battery. But I tried two different batteries in one phone and another battery in a second phone. Both phones, even after cycling the batteries, took 8-9 hours to charge from 20-30% to full. Using the original charger. I tried new cables and charging pucks. Resetting the phone etc. Even putting the old battery back in, still had the same 8-9 hour charging time. There must be something in the firmware that doesn't like loosing power(when the battery is disconnected). I don't know. I have to warn customers now before I change them out. Hopefully you will have better results."
Is it possible that phone software doesn't support a true power cut off (or removed battery) and charge slowly the new battery?
What is your experience about this because now I'm scared.

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[Q] -Battery monster

My rhodium the (Tilt2) makes batteries fail within three-four hours. My first battery from the manufacturer worked fine for about five months, then the battery began to get hot after some light usage; turned the phone off. Battery did not charge afterwards. Used my warranty for a new battery, that battery worked for about four hours then didn't charge any longer.
Tried- New battery, New USB cable, Different A/C charger
What could it be?
Cyanide00311 said:
My rhodium the (Tilt2) makes batteries fail within three-four hours. My first battery from the manufacturer worked fine for about five months, then the battery began to get hot after some light usage; turned the phone off. Battery did not charge afterwards. Used my warranty for a new battery, that battery worked for about four hours then didn't charge any longer.
Tried- New battery, New USB cable, Different A/C charger
What could it be?
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The process of elimination says it's your phone. Explain your problem and get a warranty repair or exchange on it.
Bob is right. Similar things were happened with some of the 16gb micro sd cards. My dad had to get 3 replacement tp2's because the sd card was too powerful for the slot or something like that. They pulled out some bs excuse. Anyways, it is fixed now. Hopefully you have the ridiculous 6 dollar a month plan.. haha

Weird battery charging issue (stuck at 83% in all ROMs)

So,
I've flashed three or four ROMs over the last week (with a few different kernels) and they're ALL having the same issue:
I use the "miagi method" to fully charge the battery, but when the phone is ON, the blue LED comes on when the phone is still reading 83%. I turn it off, plug in, and after a few minutes it's at 100%. I've wiped stats, flashed ROMs and kernels and the problem persists.
I don't know if this is having an actual effect on battery life, but it sure is annoying.
lattiboy said:
So,
I've flashed three or four ROMs over the last week (with a few different kernels) and they're ALL having the same issue:
I use the "miagi method" to fully charge the battery, but when the phone is ON, the blue LED comes on when the phone is still reading 83%. I turn it off, plug in, and after a few minutes it's at 100%. I've wiped stats, flashed ROMs and kernels and the problem persists.
I don't know if this is having an actual effect on battery life, but it sure is annoying.
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I'm going to assume you've been to this forum?
Personally, with all the phones, re-roots, re-flashes, and Odin flashing I've done I've had no need to do any battery edits, so I am limited on experience. My question to you is this: Does it hang at 83% for a while when in use, or does it immediately begin to drop percentage as if the battery never charged beyond that point? I know that sometimes after a reboot, my phone will go from 50% to 20%, but then hang at 20% for hours since it is in actuality at 50%.
If none of that helps you at all, my suggestion is this. I found the same thing for half the cost several months ago elsewhere if you look. It came with 2 batteries, one for me and my wife. The included batteries are notably not quite as good as the original samsungs. However, carrying an extra battery gives flexibility, and the wall charger does a faster and more effective job at charging any battery.
Plus, then you'll have a battery while you're other one charges!
RandomKing said:
I'm going to assume you've been to this forum?
Personally, with all the phones, re-roots, re-flashes, and Odin flashing I've done I've had no need to do any battery edits, so I am limited on experience. My question to you is this: Does it hang at 83% for a while when in use, or does it immediately begin to drop percentage as if the battery never charged beyond that point? I know that sometimes after a reboot, my phone will go from 50% to 20%, but then hang at 20% for hours since it is in actuality at 50%.
If none of that helps you at all, my suggestion is this. I found the same thing for half the cost several months ago elsewhere if you look. It came with 2 batteries, one for me and my wife. The included batteries are notably not quite as good as the original samsungs. However, carrying an extra battery gives flexibility, and the wall charger does a faster and more effective job at charging any battery.
Plus, then you'll have a battery while you're other one charges!
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++ on This .... I've used that calibration method (the 2nd one, off method) and it worked well for me.
hi i can solve this just follow simple steps
discharge your battery upto 17 percent
than use back camera with flash on take pictures with flash your phone will power off suddenly after 2 to 10 pictures.
just plug in charger issue is resolved your battery will be charged upto 100 percent

Experiences with el cheapo battery and chargers

I would just like to share some of my experiences with a cheap 3$ eBay battery (like this one), as well as ultra-cheap 2$ USB chargers.
I bought this battery early January to supplement my GS3's main battery. At first I used it as a backup battery, keeping it in my bag in case my main battery dies. This worked great for a couple of weeks until I could no longer be bothered to swap out the battery every time I needed to charge the other one. So I ended up leaving the eBay battery in full time. At this point I have grown to trust it, seeing as I hadn't had any issues.
Months went by like this, but by the end of March, I was scratching my head as to why my phone wasn't lasting as long as it used to. I guess this change was so gradual that I didn't notice it for long. Now this past week, the battery has had even more trouble holding a charge. It took hours to recharge, and barely lasted with me listening to music, chatting on fb and checking reddit several times a day. It got to a point where one night, it only charged to 90%, and then the next night it charged up to 45%. It also would only charge a few percent at a time when daydream was on.
Now yesterday, by the time I got home ~16:00, the battery died. I plugged it in, but it wouldn't charge - a battery with a warning symbol icon lit up when plugging it in. After a few minutes of fiddling, I managed to get my phone to turn on, but then it almost immediately turned off. A few minutes more, I managed to turn it on and finally charge using the original charger. After an hour, it didn't even reach 20%. This enraged me, causing me to finally hot swap the battery to the original one. Surprisingly, it charged up to 70% in less than 1 hour. Quite a nice change.
Since this morning I've been using it more than normally (large FTP download, streaming youtube), and I still have 60%
I suspect that the low quality anode within the battery corroded very quickly due to the high stresses involved with powering the phone, and charging rapidly. The thing that I often see online, is people being afraid of batteries blowing up or damaging their phones, but this is highly unlikely. The phone has the battery charging circuit built into it, and it will regulate the CV and CC charging cycles itself. It shuts off the phone when the voltage drops too low, and it wouldn't go over 4.2v because the phone wouldn't charge above that. The only damage that a cheap battery can do is to leak or vent inside a phone - hence the need for proper circuitry in the phone.
I also have experiences using absolutely the cheapest batteries in some of my other gadgets. Both of my cameras use the cheapest batteries I could find on eBay - without any problems. Ironically, for my point and shoot, the eBay batteries last longer and display an accurate time estimate. With my DSLR, the 2 batteries that I bought (originally to make a cheap power supply for long timelapses), they work identically, charge identically and fit perfectly. I also bought some protected 18650 batteries for various LED projects I was working on, as well as for my flashlight, but about half of them are now dead - I suspect due to the protection circuit. So yeah, those are my experiences with ultra cheap batteries.
Now, as per the chargers, I mostly use only el cheapo dealextreme or eBay ones. I've had no issues with charging my old iPhone, my SGS3, tablet, and my el cheapo 20$ Huawei phone. However, they don't work well with my Raspberry Pi, iPad and my mom's Android tablet (the touchscreen glitches big time).
So yeah. I don't know what the purpose of this is. Just had to speak out .

[Q] Help new battery not working - Gold 2430mAh battery for Xperia play r800i help

Hi guys my xplay r800i keeps shutting down, it's still the original battery since I got the phone a few years ago so I'm guessing it's a battery issue.
However the stock battery doesn't keep my phone active for long anymore. Every time I use the phone it randomly shuts down within a few minutes sometimes within a few seconds from unlocking the home screen.
For the time being it stays powered on when it's hooked on the charger, but only In a locked stand by state.
I got a new battery but it's a X10Xperia 2430mah 3.7v, got it off eBay.. however it doesn't work or give any power on my phone.
As soon as I put the battery in, I tried to charge it, but nothing happened just a red blinking light, the phone does not turn on, nothing happens, even when I plug in the charger the charging screen does not come up and the phone just blinks red 1x every few seconds.
Is there something I have to do before this battery works or is it supposed to be a plug and play?
Do I have to root the phone so I can use this battery?
I'm a complete noob, but a quick learner, I have never rooted or modified my phone so if anyone has any answers could you please keep it simple for me...
Any help will be greatly appreciated
Many thanks
Maybe your new battery is empty. If you have multimeter check voltage. Empty battery level is at 3.2V and full is at 4.2V
If it's less then 3.2V then phone will not turn on (and will blink red if you try to power it on).
What you can do is to leave it charging and in few hours it should be enough charged to power on phone.
Sent from my R800i using XDA Free mobile app
maybe try an external charger to see if that helps.
I bought a couple of these a few months ago (Same V/mAH rating, labeled as being for an Xperia X10) and believe I was basically ripped off.
The first one I started using seemed like it burned down faster than it should have, so I tested the two "2340mAH" gold batteries against a never used SE BST-41 I have in a drawer and the one I've been using for around 10 months (With lots of charge cycles under its belt).
I overclocked my R800x's CPU to 1.6GHz and played several CPS-2 games under MAME4Droid Reloaded (Basically pegging the CPU 100%). On the stock battery I currently use in my phone this allows me around 5 hours of continuous playtime with my various kernel/OS/hardware tweaks. The new BST-41 got about 20 minutes more than this. The first gold battery ran for about 3.5 hours and the second a miserable 2.5 hours.
I recharged all of them (Once they stated they were at 100% I'd let them sit for at least an hour or two more on charge) and repeated the tests two more times, and the results drifted between +/- 10-15m relative to the first round of testing for each battery.
I have a strong suspicion these are old batteries that have simply had a gold foil sticker affixed to them making them sound better than they actually are. If that's actually the case, you may have in fact bought a dead battery which would explain why it's not working.
I remember a few years ago there were a lot of similar gold foil batteries going around for the iPhone 5 that were simply relabeled, used OEM batteries with various levels of depleted charge capacity due to wear.
(Note, I even tried changing ro.semc.batt.capacity in build.prop to match the stated mAH rating on the gold batteries after these tests and it didn't make a difference for the two gold batteries)

Battery Replacement Problems

Hi, recently I replaced that battery of my mi9se by myself (so it is possible that I screwed up in some way), afterwards the new battery started to last incredibly less than before, having a very strange behaviour concerning its charge level: let's say the phone is charged to 100%, then in the next hour or so the battery drains normally, let's say to 80%, then it starts freefalling to 60/50% then the phone dies at 40/50%. When I connect the charger, apparently the battery is at a dead 0%, it takes very little time to recharge to 100% and the cycle continues.
Obviously this situation is not sustainable in any way, yesterday evening I was on a call with my gf, my phone died at 70%, I connected it to the charger and powered it up, as soon as it booted it was at 10%, then I disconnected it for flipping the connector and it died again... Another boot and it jumped straight to 43%. I don't know what to do...
The situation wasn't so critical at first, but I also tried to order a third battery, but the results are the same.
Another thing to note is that I also changed the charger pcb, the one onto it is soldered the usb-c connector, because it was flimsy af. I thought the cause of my problems may have been the crappy one, advertised as new but probably used, that I ordered from china. But I also tried to replace it with the old original one with no apparent changes besides the fact that now the charger doesn't remain plugged as an added bonus (that was the initial reason that led me to change it in the first place).
Software notes:
I'm currently running the latest official build of lineageOS, I could try to do a software update, but idk if it could change something...
I have root access with magisk (if some low level root operations are needed I should be able to perform them)
I was running Advanced Charging Controller (https://github.com/VR-25/acc), that I uninstalled yesterday when it came to my mind that it may be messing with the battery readings, but without success.
I should also note that I run several calibration cycles as advertised on many forums: charge to 100%, let it die by battery drain and charge it again to 100% without interruption and without powering it up. No improvements.
Sadly I study offsite and I left the old battery at home, so I have to wait till next friday if some solutions involve using the old battery.
Thanks for saving me and my phone, that, beside his battery, it still works like a charm! Switching to lineage seemed to give him another 2/3 years of life and I really wanted to keep it as long as it works.
Thank you very much for your time!

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