Hello I'm a redmi note 8 4/64gb user. I bought the chinese version six months ago and flashed it to the indian version, still MIUI though.
But after about 3 to 4 months of using i started to notice stutters and occasional force closing of apps/games now and then.
furthermore, when i use an app for a lomg period and then go back to home (to make a call or take a note), the system launcher takes a Long time to respond and it just shows my wallpaper, the homescreen takes a lot of time to load.
Because of this I'm sick of MIUI and it's ram management. Now i want to know what will be the best rom in which I'll never have to deal with the above problems.
In short, i want a stutter-free, anti-forceclosing and good ram management ROM for my redmi note 8 4/64.
PS: it would be better if that rom had a an option to manually control network like gsm only or LTE/WCDMA or LTE only
and suggestions?
Lineage OS 16 (android 9) by darkjoker is a brilliant option for what you're asking for. No stutters, rootable up to the latest version of magisk and ram management seems perfect.
Hope this helped.
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Let me preface this by saying that this is in no way a device comparison thread.
Now that that's out of the way, I want to talk about the RAM. We have 4GB. I have noticed that if I have a web page open in the browser I can go back to it at any time without it having to reload. This is killer!. I have been wanting that for so long. My Nexus 6 can do that up to a point, but even it will start refreshing after a while. I have yet to see the Zenfone 2 do it once. The frustrating thing is, I have a GS6 also and it will do that after only a few apps are opened. It's one of the things I really hate about that phone and which makes it irritating to use.
Here's the thing: Both the GS6 and Asus are running earlier versions of Lollipop, before the memory issues were supposedly fixed. I'm pretty sure that Samsung just has some super aggressive memory management going on. But why doesn't the Zenfone 2 suffer from the memory leak? Why is it not having the same RAM issues that the Nexus 6 had on 5.0? I suppose Zen UI could have something to do with it, but none of the other OEMs have been able to fix the RAM issues with their overlays. Is it just the sheer amount of RAM that makes it less noticeable?
Sound off. Either way, I'm thrilled with the performance of this phone.
My zenfone 2 is getting delivered today. I'm VERY much looking forward to Android 5.1 on it. When my Nexus 5 went from 5 to 5.1, it was sooo much better. I'm expecting the zenfone 2, s6, etc, to see similar improvements.
nathan118 said:
My zenone 2 is getting delivered today. I'm VERY much looking forward to Android 5.1 on it. When my Nexus 5 went from 5 to 5.1, it was sooo much better. I'm expecting the zenfone 2, s6, etc, to see similar improvements.
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5.1 Made my Nexus 6 a totally different phone. But the Zenfone 2 is really solid right now. While I'm sure that 5.1 will only make it better (especially the "all cores at once" change), I have zero complaints about performance with this phone.
Combination of Clean Boost thing, as well as a massive amount of RAM.
When I'm idle, I hang around 1.3GB RAM used. I can leave a ton of stuff open in the background for immediate opening and I still only hit around 2.5GB RAM usage. I imagine playing huge games will eat up the rest. The management along with the amount is what makes it so smooth and easy to multitask.
Zenfone 2 will soon get a 5.1 upgrade with a 64 bit os which will make the device a god Eagerly waiting for the 5.1 upgrade. The only thing i wish for is to see some Aosp roms like cm, pa on this device.
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Zenfone 2 will soon get a 5.1 upgrade with a 64 bit os which will make the device a god Eagerly waiting for the 5.1 upgrade. The only thing i wish for is to see some Aosp roms like cm, pa on this device.
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Where has ASUS said 5.1 upgrade will bring 64bit OS?
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Zenfone 2 will soon get a 5.1 upgrade with a 64 bit os which will make the device a god Eagerly waiting for the 5.1 upgrade. The only thing i wish for is to see some Aosp roms like cm, pa on this device.
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Razr-i has a CM (port) rom out.. Only thing I've done with it so far is pull a few apks (ex: calculator) and binaries (ex: htop) off of it
I can totally notice the ram leak, my ZF2 ram idles around about 2+gb out of the box. Because it has so much ram you will not notice it.. my nexus 6 with the ram leak patch idles at 1.3gb.. I can only imagine the beast of a fine this will really be.. But I cannot complain, my ZF2 was free thanks the North America launch event asus gave away the 64gb model.
It is possible they included a patch for the memory leak prior to release of their phone. Either that or it some how doesn't apply to the intel atom processor and how it may handle ram.
Strange... I'm on the 2 GB version, and I have constant problems with apps getting closed, presumably due to swapping. Sometimes it gets so bad that even opening Chrome will close out every other app. Normally, I can't seem to keep more than a couple apps open before they start getting swapped out - maybe Hangouts and my podcast app. Is anyone else seeing similar behavior, and/or have a workaround? The "boost" function doesn't seem to do much to help.
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Strange... I'm on the 2 GB version, and I have constant problems with apps getting closed, presumably due to swapping. Sometimes it gets so bad that even opening Chrome will close out every other app. Normally, I can't seem to keep more than a couple apps open before they start getting swapped out - maybe Hangouts and my podcast app. Is anyone else seeing similar behavior, and/or have a workaround? The "boost" function doesn't seem to do much to help.
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Are you rooted? I got rid of all the bloatware, installed greenify, disabled a bunch of non essential apps from starting using auto-start, and I'm not having any issues at all. I have the 2 GB version as well.
Unlocked, Insecure boot, rooted, all the junk uninstalled.
1.0GB RAM usage after the phone being on for ~16 hours.
151MB Cached
2.6GB Free
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With messaging, books, and email open...stock. There is still a memory leak issue, the only thing is with the 4 gig version you have so much available most cannot tell a difference.
Kernel has KSM support, and init scripts reference a missing init.ksm.rc.
Per https://source.android.com/devices/tech/ram/low-ram.html, the normal settings are:
write /sys/kernel/mm/ksm/pages_to_scan 100
write /sys/kernel/mm/ksm/sleep_millisecs 500
write /sys/kernel/mm/ksm/run 1
Personally, I don't have any complaints about battery life on the zf2, so ymmv with drain from ksm.
Normally saves around 100-150MB, a few times upwards of 300MB. But regardless, this bandaid will not help if you're still barely afloat even after discounting cache.
Can either unpack boot.img and modify the ramdisk (now that bootloader can be unlocked) or use an app / init.d script.
Kernel Adiutor https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grarak.kerneladiutor works well
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Strange... I'm on the 2 GB version, and I have constant problems with apps getting closed, presumably due to swapping. Sometimes it gets so bad that even opening Chrome will close out every other app. Normally, I can't seem to keep more than a couple apps open before they start getting swapped out - maybe Hangouts and my podcast app. Is anyone else seeing similar behavior, and/or have a workaround? The "boost" function doesn't seem to do much to help.
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I face the same problem.... Asus needs to fix it soon.....
After rooting and removing crapware, I see apps getting closed down after opening 2-3 other apps. Really annoying, and not something I'm accustomed to coming from the OnePlus One, Nexus 5, or even the Nexus 4.
Hi everyone, I'm new here, and this is my first post.
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I'm not actually new to this site, since I've got huge amounts of help in the past thanks to the guys here. I am creating this thread because I looked up on these forums and couldn't find a post about my concern.
You see, I'm a Zenfone 2 64GB/4GB 551ML owner and I'am pretty happy with it. The bloatware was not a big deal to me since it can be removed easily, and some ZenUI apps are quite nice though. Sometimes, I wish ZenUI was a little bit more alike to pure Lollipop in terms of UI and UX with those smooth and beautiful animations included, but anyway, that's not the point of this thread.
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I am here to ask any of you, ZF 2 owers if you have experienced disappointment when it comes to performance of this cheap little monster. This phone is amazingly fast (for the price) and smooth (most of the time) but there's something that bugs me quite a bit: those so-called 4 GB of RAM seem to be non-existant. I mean, come on! Zenfone 2, you have 4 GB or RAM, behave like so!
When I finally let go my anxiousness of having about 2 GB or free RAM at max (I might yet flash CM 12.1 or something to remove some bloatware apps completely to ensure I get 2.5 3 GB of free RAM), I notice this guy does not keep apps on RAM cache, I have like 3 open apps and when I open a fourth one and get back to the first one BOOM!, the cachè clears itself and have to open it again. It is not actually a big deal since it takes about 2 seconds or less to open the app again from the Recents screen but COME ON!! You have 4 GB for usage!!
I watched a video on Youtube of a dude testing the ZF2 endurance and it kept open like 5 games, kinda heavy games like GTA San Andreas, Nova and some Zombie ones of which I forgot the names. I even noticed the RAM management was better on Performance Mode but even then, it doesn't keep many apps open, more than 6 apps open mean one of the apps must be opened again. :s
Question:
So, is this a common problem? Am I the only one? Is this not a problem?
Thank you in advance. Regards!
It's probably auto start manager cleaning up apps
Yes this is annoying, auto start manager closes apps that are not set to "auto start". To fix this you either set the apps you want to keep in the background to "auto start" or disable (freeze) the auto start manager.
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Interesting...
Thank you for your replies.
I'm gonna test it today if it is the problem and post an update about it.
Hey there!
I have a ZE551ML (2.3GHz/64GB/4GB). Like most of the Zenfone 2 users, I have had two major issues on this phone. The battery drainage and the RAM leakage, both caused by the dreaded Android OS.
Earlier we blamed it on the 5.0 Stock Lollipop firmware, hoping it will get fixed with Marshmallow. But now on the beta MM, I continue to have the same issues (I cleaned flashed).
But thanks to Marshmallow's new Memory manager, I saw that the kernel has taken up almost 1GB of the RAM. (For comparison, the OnePlus One MM drains around 200MB). And I'm sure, whatever causes this to happen is also the culprit behind the Android OS battery drainage.
Now maybe, we could blame it on the Intel CPU, since most apps are optimized for Snapdragon devices. But then, wouldn't it affect all the Zenfone 2s with Intel CPUs? Why is it that some have excellent kernel performance?
Since I'm not a developer, I couldn't dig more into the situation, but I hope some developer will see this and help us out. It's a wonderful phone except for the Kernel hogging up the battery and the RAM.
That's all folks!
I leave stock for CyanogenMod about 1 month (right before beta tester receive MM test) and I think kernel isn't a big problem. The problem is the UI. And it bloatware. I have to disable almost every bloatware (since I didn't root)
Android 5.0 itself having memory bug that using a lot of RAM for animation, turn off transition animation in developer setting to mitigate this problem, and it can be fix with an optimize. But I don't know why ASUS don't fix it.
And another RAM hogging is ZenUI Launcher. A lot of useless function that you don't really need, and it may use up to 300mb of RAM. And it may make kernel use more RAM. Try to use a different lightweight launcher for a while (1 day or maybe few day).
When you reboot your phone, ZenUI Launcher using 30-40mb of RAM, but the more you use, the more it hogging your RAM. You can really tell it by using for a while and after running some casual apps like Facebook or Messenger, ZenUI launcher will have to reload everything, and gaming, it usually have to reload the game when I have to listen/make a phone call or reply a message.
Sometimes you receive some warning/suggestion like: "Something leaked? Protect your privacy now!", and this is the most useless and tricky function when it suggest you to install CM Security or something Security which is actually quite useless and it may/will steal something from your phone.
I'm using CyanogenMod, and it kernel source provided by ASUS. And developers make it great. There are some bugs, but acceptable and usable. When I go to CM, I could play games and use Facebook or do something elsse at the same time which I couldn't do at stock.
ASUS could make their phone better, but no, they have to sell something, and it's the next generation. The Zenfone 3. They have to make people thinking: "My phone is slow, I have to buy a new one, and yeah, I like this ZenUI, and Zenfone 3 is here, price also pretty good, I will get that Zenfone 3".
Hello I have a redmi note 8 pro and recently updated to miui12..before on miui11 I had no issues like lagging and stuttering while using the mobile and also in background running apps out of 6gb 4gb used to be free but after updating to miui12 I have been facing issues like stucking while using apps and the most shocking and upsetting me is only 2gb is free out of 6gb and am unable to get where the other ram is being used..please help to find me where is my ram being used so that I can stop them from being. And yes even after I close all the background running apps it still shows only 2gb free out of 6gb.please help
with the stock launcher i'm experiencing the same problem. using a third party one (lawnchair in my case) the ram usage is the same as on miui 11.
olivrd said:
with the stock launcher i'm experiencing the same problem. using a third party one (lawnchair in my case) the ram usage is the same as on miui 11.
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So the only solution to tackle the issue is to use third party launcher or wait until xiomi releases another update? And also is dual apps working on the third party launcher? Coz back then when using Nova launcher dual apps didn't work for me.
akshay914 said:
So the only solution to tackle the issue is to use third party launcher or wait until xiomi releases another update? And also is dual apps working on the third party launcher? Coz back then when using Nova launcher dual apps didn't work for me.
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don't know if that's the only solution, i've never actually used the system launcher and the dual apps stuff, i've only tried it (the launcher) when the miui 12 came out to check the new options/animations and yes, it slows down the overall experience (at least in my case).
anyway, the os still has its bugs, but they'll eventually be sorted out in the future. in the meantime, you can always report bugs directly to xiaomi via their community app.
olivrd said:
don't know if that's the only solution, i've never actually used the system launcher and the dual apps stuff, i've only tried it (the launcher) when the miui 12 came out to check the new options/animations and yes, it slows down the overall experience (at least in my case).
anyway, the os still has its bugs, but they'll eventually be sorted out in the future. in the meantime, you can always report bugs directly to xiaomi via their community app.
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I don't know why but still my whole ram is being used without any apps opened in the
It`s supposedly better to keep frequently used apps in ram so it does not have to be loaded into memory every time you use it as that uses more cpu and take longer before you can accesses the app, unused ram is supposed to be wasted ram the android system will adjust itself if you want to run a game that requires a lot of ram anyway, That`s what i read anyway when i looked into how android handles it`s memory.
I use to clear the ram when i original bought the phone but i stopped doing it and it`s working fine, no problems though i am a lite user.
Anyway mine show 3gb of 6gb free.
Hello,
I use an old for today's standards Samsung Galaxy J7 (2016) with a custom Android 10 rom with arm64 and OneUI 2.5 functionalities. Unfortunately, due to 2GB of RAM (even with additional 2GB of ZRAM), it's hard to cope with problems regarding apps in background closing right after roughly 1 minute of not using them (Youtube does this a lot) and sometimes apps lagging just while using them normally. So I'm thinking of flashing a Android 9 ARM32 OneUI 1.0 ROM. (My phone never had Pie update officially, so the switch from 8 to 10 was overwhelming.) But before I do that, I want to know what will I lose if I do, so I can see if it'll be worth it. I know that Google is planning to force devs to ditch ARM32, but before they do I want to feel comfortable with my phone. For now, as I've seen the features I will lose, that are valuable to me, are purely cosmetic, such as Video Enhancer and Edge Lighting. But if there are way more of them, please let me know. Basically I'm asking for a full list of changes from 9 to 10 and OneUI from 1 to 2.5.