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Guys,
I have been rooting my devices for countless years now, but Iately I found myself wondering why.
So, I decided not to root my S4. So far, so good:
- Blokada works great for ads (and until one month ago AdHell was an even better alternative)
- Tasker does its job as well using Autoinput (obviously, I had to rewrite all my tasks)
- I had given up on Xposed a long time ago, due to Safety Net violations.
In essence, I believe that stock + OTAs + Knox works well and I don't need to root.
Wha are your experiences with no-root workarounds?
Wouldn't bother tbh, S4 rom forum is dead, only been 2/3 roms made!
I use to root all the time, back since I had the first HTC desire.
As of recent i haven't and I'm not missing it, S8+, Tab S4 and Samsung A5.
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Root?
To make decent backups using TitaniumBackup.
To transfer data to/from the ext. SD card using ssh/scp/rsync.
To disable lots of unneeded/unwanted 'standard' tools.
Root makes you a owner of your gear. Without root the device can do with you whatever.
Firewall, freezing unwanted apps, fighting against Google nosy curiosity. Making sound better with magisk modules.
But Samsung is stupid with their bad strategy, they don't respect warranty if your device is rooted.
Best solution is Xiaomi or OnePlus, but they haven't tablet with such great screen like Samsung galaxy tabs S series
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Astania said:
But Samsung is stupid with their bad strategy, they don't respect warranty if your device is rooted.
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Samsung may not, but according to european legislation the vendor is responsible to provide warranty for an appropriate period of time, at least one year.
Simple answer yes root is need please also note i was well against root i was gutted that i rooted my Tab S4 LTE Model that I rushed into without the research!
But since Samsung gave us the middle finger last month by denying us the KNOX API Key for Adhell 3 root is a must if you truly want to enjoy ad free bloatware free Tab S4 experience!
ROOT ROCKS!
sciurius said:
Root?
To make decent backups using TitaniumBackup.
To transfer data to/from the ext. SD card using ssh/scp/rsync.
To disable lots of unneeded/unwanted 'standard' tools.
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Hello what does this do "ssh/scp/rsync"? Does it transfer apps to sd card?
marvi0 said:
Hello what does this do "ssh/scp/rsync"? Does it transfer apps to sd card?
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For simplicity, scp is a network file copy tool and rsync is a network file sync tool. They use ssh as a network protocol.
For details, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Shell
rooting is the first thing to do with each device before it connects to network and start calling home.
rooting is a must: bloatware removal, adblocking, privacy, modding, security. you can install dnscrypt, force adguard on vpn and with adaway. you can enable call recording. you can have adfree usable youtube. you can include any app in parallel apps. you can modify the extra button. you can have same gestures on every phone (xposed Edge). you can have Swiftkey improved. you can crystalize agressive apps (3C). you can run your scripts. you can backup (titaniumbackup). all those thousand of settings in hundreds of apps backed up. endless possibilities.
for me i have to have adblocking, device identifiers masking, encryption and call recording on each device before first turn on (or second, but networks off). otherwise it has to be turned off. like in case of Xiaomi where you need to wait 2 weeks to unlock - i didn't touch the new phone until it was unlocked then rooted. #principles
doggydog2 said:
rooting is the first thing to do with each device before it connects to network and start calling home.
rooting is a must: bloatware removal, adblocking, privacy, modding, security. you can install dnscrypt, force adguard on vpn and with adaway. you can enable call recording. you can have adfree usable youtube. you can include any app in parallel apps. you can modify the extra button. you can have same gestures on every phone (xposed Edge). you can have Swiftkey improved. you can crystalize agressive apps (3C). you can run your scripts. you can backup (titaniumbackup). all those thousand of settings in hundreds of apps backed up. endless possibilities.
for me i have to have adblocking, device identifiers masking, encryption and call recording on each device before first turn on (or second, but networks off). otherwise it has to be turned off. like in case of Xiaomi where you need to wait 2 weeks to unlock - i didn't touch the new phone until it was unlocked then rooted. #principles
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Hi. I haven't had an android device for many years before this tab. Before that, I had a Note 2 on which i used to root and also have different roms running frequently.
I'm also considering rooting my tab s4 for a long time now. Could you share some more detailed about customizations that are available for tab s4 if I'm not willing to go to stock android roms? I'm asking about modifications to the offcial samsung based firmware.
Thanks
mayank_nigam said:
Hi. I haven't had an android device for many years before this tab. Before that, I had a Note 2 on which i used to root and also have different roms running frequently.
I'm also considering rooting my tab s4 for a long time now. Could you share some more detailed about customizations that are available for tab s4 if I'm not willing to go to stock android roms? I'm asking about modifications to the offcial samsung based firmware.
Thanks
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Same here, staying with rooted samsung firmware to enjoy the samsung extras. I will later setup a thread with debloat and list of verified modules to install. Also with a root guide, as i couldn't find one for encryption-only people.. found 10 guides but noone is using encryption. weird!
Here
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Here
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how did you root yours? I'm having issues
OcazPrime said:
how did you root yours? I'm having issues
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like described..similarly to others, without encryption disabler.
Hello,
I have the Samsung S20 Ultra and I'm extremely impressed with it. However I'm paranoid about the integration with Google and the tele-metrics.
The phone is amazing and makes my iPhone 11 feel like 4 years old, the battery is better, the screen, it's fast - the first time I've considered switching full time.
What is the best way to improve privacy on this device?
Is there a way to install xLuaPrivacy, or it root needed?
Is there a custom ROM that has privacy features?
Is there a firewall I can use to control traffic out?
I'm a little out of date with the development world as I last had a Samsung Note 4.
ProcurementCoordinatorNSA said:
Hello,
I have the Samsung S20 Ultra and I'm extremely impressed with it. However I'm paranoid about the integration with Google and the tele-metrics.
The phone is amazing and makes my iPhone 11 feel like 4 years old, the battery is better, the screen, it's fast - the first time I've considered switching full time.
What is the best way to improve privacy on this device?
Is there a way to install xLuaPrivacy, or it root needed?
Is there a custom ROM that has privacy features?
Is there a firewall I can use to control traffic out?
I'm a little out of date with the development world as I last had a Samsung Note 4.
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There are private dns and VPN options built into the device (at least the unlocked ones), which you can point at any service you want, so you just need to find one that suits your specific needs or run your own at home (which you can do easily with even the cheapest Raspberry Pi and the free Pihole app). It's always best to use this method rather than local software - it's less resource intensive, doesn't require root, and gives you more assurance that things are working the way you think they are.
As above, pihole & dns.adguard.com
For maximum security, do not root the phone.
And put the apps you feel that require more security on secure folders. That's an extra layer of protection there. There is a dedicated chip for encryption and security on the s20 just for the purpose of security and privacy.
If u know what u are doing, you can even root the phone, miss out on knox and secure folders, but install other more interesting stuff like firewall to control what apps get to use internet.
For me, secure folders, vpn is good enough.
I love the extra privacy of the secure folders.. It has its own phone book, phone app.. It's like a second phone in there and not accessible from outside.
And you can hide many things in there Including apps. Just rmb to switch off notifications from the app in secure folders..
I have a wife that loves digging through my phone.. You can customize the secure folder name and icon. I even put it on my app drawer.
You can also freely move stuff in and out of secure folders.
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ProcurementCoordinatorNSA said:
I have the Samsung S20 Ultra and I'm extremely impressed with it. However I'm paranoid about the integration with Google and the tele-metrics. What is the best way to improve privacy on this device?
Is there a way to install xLuaPrivacy, or it root needed?
Is there a custom ROM that has privacy features?
Is there a firewall I can use to control traffic out?
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If you want to get away from Google, then you need a Google-free phone. Something that runs LineageOS. Of course, installing LineageOS requires rooting, which also compromises security to a degree. So it is a trade-off. But if you are *really* paranoid about Google tracking you, then you need to get rid of everything Google, including Google Play Services. And the only way to do that is by using a phone without Google Play Services preinstalled.
xPrivacyLua requires Magisk, which requires unlocking the bootloader. If you have a Exynos model, then you can unlock the bootloader. If you have Snapdragon, then you can't. And any software firewall will require access to system files, which is impossible without root.
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As above, pihole & dns.adguard.com
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Agreed. I use Pi-hole at home, and dns.adguard.com as my default DNS. Both are very effective at blocking ads, but neither are comprehensive solutions for extremely privacy-focused individuals.
vash_h said:
I have a wife that loves digging through my phone. You can customize the secure folder name and icon. I even put it on my app drawer.
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This is OT, but if your wife (or anyone else) is constantly snooping your phone, then there are obviously trust issues that should be addressed.
I use adguard + nordvpn + dns to block all ads and to control the Internet filtering better.
With ADB commands you can uninstall all bloatware and unnecessary stuff or disable them with package disabler Pro.
I'm on snapdragon and waiting for root release so I can use more privacy apps with magisk/xposed.
ProcurementCoordinatorNSA said:
Hello,
What is the best way to improve privacy on this device?
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Go into your Private DNS settings then go to nextdns.io to setup your free account
dv8ed said:
Go into your Private DNS settings then go to nextdns.io to setup your free account
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Any ideas which filter blocklist is stopping my S20U from checking for firmware updates?
If I set private DNS back to automatic it works fine, using nextdns kills it
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Any ideas which filter blocklist is stopping my S20U from checking for firmware updates?
If I set private DNS back to automatic it works fine, using nextdns kills it
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Sorry don't know I updated my phone to ATE4 on 6/1 not sure if I started using nextdns before or after 6/1 can't remember.
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Any ideas which filter blocklist is stopping my S20U from checking for firmware updates?
If I set private DNS back to automatic it works fine, using nextdns kills it
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Disable blocklists one at a time until you can check firmware again, and you'll have the answer.
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Disable blocklists one at a time until you can check firmware again, and you'll have the answer.
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Yea I know that, but rather than spending all that time I wanted to know if anyone already knew
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Yea I know that, but rather than spending all that time I wanted to know if anyone already knew
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This please
*Detection* said:
Any ideas which filter blocklist is stopping my S20U from checking for firmware updates?
If I set private DNS back to automatic it works fine, using nextdns kills it
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Odd, I've been using nextdns for over a month and on 2 June I was able to download & install ATE6 (the Australian releases are always slowwwww ...).
You can look at your nextdns logging to see what's being blocked when you try an update. The results are pretty much live; I used the logging to work out what was causing an app problem and whitelisted a few sites based on the blocked results in the log.
Hello,
I've decided to come back to Android after seven years using iOS and the one thing that bothers me the most is the excessive amount of preinstalled bloatware (in Samsung devices, to be more precise).
Searching at the forum, I've seen some posts about CCSWE, Package Disabler Pro, and ADB, which seem to do the job.
However, I was looking for a more "lazy" solution to disable such apps, meaning that I do not want to root my device or installing ADB.
Hence, my question is: can I disable every single bloatware by simply accessing Settings > Apps? If not, can either CCSWE or Package Disabler Pro do the trick? Do they need root access?
Thanks in advance for your sage advices
aacury said:
Hello,
I've decided to come back to Android after seven years using iOS and the one thing that bothers me the most is the excessive amount of preinstalled bloatware (in Samsung devices, to be more precise).
Searching at the forum, I've seen some posts about CCSWE, Package Disabler Pro, and ADB, which seem to do the job.
However, I was looking for a more "lazy" solution to disable such apps, meaning that I do not want to root my device or installing ADB.
Hence, my question is: can I disable every single bloatware by simply accessing Settings > Apps? If not, can either CCSWE or Package Disabler Pro do the trick? Do they need root access?
Thanks in advance for your sage advices
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Non of those options require root
Some / most of the bloatware can be disabled from settings > apps > apps info page
Some can't and needs one of the above options
aacury said:
Hello,
I've decided to come back to Android after seven years using iOS and the one thing that bothers me the most is the excessive amount of preinstalled bloatware (in Samsung devices, to be more precise).
Searching at the forum, I've seen some posts about CCSWE, Package Disabler Pro, and ADB, which seem to do the job.
However, I was looking for a more "lazy" solution to disable such apps, meaning that I do not want to root my device or installing ADB.
Hence, my question is: can I disable every single bloatware by simply accessing Settings > Apps? If not, can either CCSWE or Package Disabler Pro do the trick? Do they need root access?
Thanks in advance for your sage advices
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I use PD MDM: https://www.packagedisabler.com/
Buy direct from their site. Been running it for over 3 years, with over 1 year on the 10+, it's stable, very low power consumption.
This is the lazy way plus it will disable apks that you can't kill in settings.
The optional interactive widget allows you to toggle checked apks on/off by touching the widget. Useful for apps like Playstore that you use but don't want running all the time. Will block carrier updates too.
I recommend PD.
Alright, guys.
Thanks for your inputs.
Hi there,
as a new owner of a fantastic Galaxy Tab S7+ I noticed, that there is a lot of Samsung Bloatware on the Tab. Most of it can't be deinstalled and even not deactivated.
Is there any way to get rid of this bloatware?
And which of these apps is save to remove?
On my Huawei P30Pro you can deinstall the bloatware via ADB. Is that possible on the Samsung too?
ericDraven77 said:
Hi there,
as a new owner of a fantastic Galaxy Tab S7+ I noticed, that there is a lot of Samsung Bloatware on the Tab. Most of it can't be deinstalled and even not deactivated.
Is there any way to get rid of this bloatware?
And which of these apps is save to remove?
On my Huawei P30Pro you can deinstall the bloatware via ADB. Is that possible on the Samsung too?
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Yes it is. Here is a link to a website that gives a list of stuff that can be removed via ADB. Obviously you need to tailor it to suit your specific use needs. I dumped a lot of uneeded apps from my tablet using this list. It also gives you pretty thorough instructions and some suggested useful apps.
How to Remove Samsung Bloatware without Root (ADB)
If you want to remove bloatware on your Samsung Galaxy S10, S20, Note 10 or Galaxy Tab, here is a list of safe to remove Samsung bloatware.
technastic.com
I have a S22 in the US (Snapdragon) and I was wondering if there is a way to get rid of the installed apps from Samsung on the device. Like "Messages" and others because I have found other apps that I like better. Without being able to root my device I'm not sure if there is a way to remove the preinstalled apps.
JimReid said:
I have a S22 in the US (Snapdragon) and I was wondering if there is a way to get rid of the installed apps from Samsung on the device. Like "Messages" and others because I have found other apps that I like better. Without being able to root my device I'm not sure if there is a way to remove the preinstalled apps.
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use this https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...oat-tool-tweaks.4147837/page-35#post-87842237
Takes me to something to record not to remove apps.