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Note 8.0 note taking vs 2014 10.1

So I'm thinking of picking up a Note 8.0, and would like to ask two questions before I do so.
1. Is the note taking quality (inking, lack of lag, etc.) on the 8.0 the same as the 2014 10.1 edition?
2. How is the screen quality on reading an ebook or PDF? Any pixelation?
Thanks in advance.

Han Solo 1 said:
So I'm thinking of picking up a Note 8.0, and would like to ask two questions before I do so.
1. Is the note taking quality (inking, lack of lag, etc.) on the 8.0 the same as the 2014 10.1 edition?
2. How is the screen quality on reading an ebook or PDF? Any pixelation?
Thanks in advance.
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1. Cannot compare as have not tried Edition 10.1, but if you mean free-hand note taking then I don't feel any lag/latency in s-note or write app as well as few others. There are some apps (vector) that have some lag, but that imo is more due to app internal issues than device itself. Handwriting recognition obviously has lag and latency by design.
2. My primary purpose is notes/drawing and lots of reading, and find it very good, (much better than having a secondary 24" HD monitor in portrait).
Unless you are reading very tiny(micro italic text) font rendering is very good. It also has setting of making text more legible (smoothing/anti-aliasing/ClearType) that also helps a bit.
Just get some decent book reader app and that's all. I can't tell any pixelation even with it as close as 3 inches from eyes and that I consider good enough for all practical purposes than pixel peeping/hunting. Sure there are some jagged edges if you look close for them but unnoticeable for any normal reading/viewing distance.
My only gripe is the aspect ratio with digital magazines I have subscriptions for. pdf /CBZ/CBR as those usually suit more to 4:3 than to 16:8 (white space in portrait fit width mode), but so is the issue with any other tab too samsung or otherwise other than the iPads).

Han Solo 1 said:
So I'm thinking of picking up a Note 8.0, and would like to ask two questions before I do so.
1. Is the note taking quality (inking, lack of lag, etc.) on the 8.0 the same as the 2014 10.1 edition?
2. How is the screen quality on reading an ebook or PDF? Any pixelation?
Thanks in advance.
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1. I like it a lot. I use for my College Courses many times. I also take pictures of handouts so I can keep it in my notes(I lose worksheets easily).
2. You can notice the pixels if you look closely. If you are reading normally it should not be a problem. I use it to read many textbooks and casual reading books.I also watch netflix very easily.
note 10.1 Should be better(That is why it is more expensive) but if you want just a to go tablet, Note 8.0 is for you
P.S.: If you can wait longer, Samsung will probably release a 2.0 version of the tablet. Should probably be much better.

Thanks for the responses!
I bought the 8.0 a few days ago, and while I like the compact design and the screen size, I can't get past the slight pixelation while viewing PDF's (I sold my retina mini to get this, so I'm used to a very good display).
I'm going to return it and go for the 10.1-14. I need a tablet for work and school, both of which require frequent note-taking and PDF annotation. I simply can't wait for an 8.0 refresh, since I only have 14 days to return.
Oh well.
Great tablet, almost perfect.

Han Solo 1 said:
Thanks for the responses!
I bought the 8.0 a few days ago, and while I like the compact design and the screen size, I can't get past the slight pixelation while viewing PDF's (I sold my retina mini to get this, so I'm used to a very good display).
I'm going to return it and go for the 10.1-14. I need a tablet for work and school, both of which require frequent note-taking and PDF annotation. I simply can't wait for an 8.0 refresh, since I only have 14 days to return.
Oh well.
Great tablet, almost perfect.
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I have both and the 10.1 2014 Edition is much better for constant note taking. The 10.1 is much snappier as well.

How does the battery life compare between the two?

FaeMinx said:
How does the battery life compare between the two?
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The Note 10.1 2014 has much better battery life.

[Q] Samsung Note 10.1 2014 or Sony Experia Z2

Have troubles deciding which of those 2 above mentioned tablets I should go for, the Samsung Note 10.1 2014 or the Sony Experia Z2 Tablet.
What are your thoughts about this, what would you recommend based on your user-experience?
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Note2014 pros: SPen, highres display, better battery life.
But Z2 is great hardware with its water and dust proof protection and NFC (useless for me)
rest is here http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=6145&idPhone2=5677
Personally for me SPen (especially air view feature) is biggest advantage over rivals.

Thanks for the answer, but you also know just specs don't say anything about use in real world.
I am interested in hearing what people think of their tablet. Your comment about the S Pen is also something i like, i use a pen with my Surface Pro and i really enjoy it.
But, real life experiences is what i hoep to hear in here

CheopsChefren said:
Thanks for the answer, but you also know just specs don't say anything about use in real world.
I am interested in hearing what people think of their tablet. Your comment about the S Pen is also something i like, i use a pen with my Surface Pro and i really enjoy it.
But, real life experiences is what i hoep to hear in here
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Maybe I`m not clear enough, I own Note 10.1 2014 and my brother just bought Z2 tablet and I have ability to compare side by side these tablets. After playing with both I`m confident in my choice and never regret my decision about Note 10.1, especially when it comes to battery life and display.
However I have to say Z2 is more stylish and significantly lightweight and slim.

Thanks Kornelius. Glad to hear you have experienced both tablets.
And good to hear youy choose the Samsung Note 10.1,, which makes me think about that one more.

Note 10.1 wins
I don't have a Z2 tablet but I have a Z1 phone, Note 3 and this Note 10.1
The thing I don't like about the Z1 was the lack of hardware buttons.
I don't like how part of the screen is wasted to provide these buttons on the Z1 as well as other Android tablets I've owned like Nexus 7, Asus TF101, TF201, TF300, TF700, Padfone Infinity.
Having gone from Dell Streak 5 to Note 1, Note 2, Note 8, Note 3, and Note 10.1 I feel kind of lost sometimes without the hardware buttons.
I feel like Samsung got it right, and Google Nexus and all the onscreen button camp got it wrong.
I even prefer the back button on the right as it has better ergonomics being directly under my right thumb as a right hander when using devices 2 handed.
And then there is the S-pen and Sketchbook Pro that puts the Note tablet on a different level.
If I was buying on looks and form, it would be Z2 looking pretty.
If I needed to use it with function over form, Note 10.1 wins easily.

[Q] Pro 8.4 vs S 8.4. Worth the price difference?

I'm looking to buy 8.4 inch tablet. From what I read, both are very good tablet. The difference of price here is about 70 AUD.
I don't really care about AMOLED vs LCD- both are fine.
I'll most probably run it on custom ROM. Tab Pro already has official CM support and established community. I'm not sure about Tab S, it's is too early to tell at this stage. I also notice Tab S is slightly thinner and lighter. Tab S runs on 3GB ram compared to 2GB of Tab Pro.
Probably you guys can give an opinion whether the price difference is worth it. Is there any other factor that makes one better than the other?

In regards to custom ROM support, I would think the Tab Pro 8.4 would get more support because of the Snapdragon 800 processor. In America that processor is very popular and used by different manufacturers, so developer support is strong. The S 8.4 has a Exynos processor, which I'm not sure of developer support.
This video compares the Pro 8.4 vs. S 8.4

In addition to the above answer, if you are not going to root and will need Knox for security, go for the Tab pro. If you will root the device, get the Tab S because it has 3gb memory and it will certainly help.
I prefer the screen of the Tab Pro S. It is brighter and I have not had any problem with the 2 units I have used. I have also bought the Tab S 8.4 and the 10.5. Their screen were pinkish when viewing webpages with white background. I can also see purple fringing on top of icons and letters, while I see green fringing at the bottom.
I suggest go to a local store and try them both, only you can really make the best decision for yourself.
Good luck

If you actually don't care about the screen I would 100% get the tab pro 8.4. The snapdragon 800 is a better SOC than the exynos in the tab s. Your tablet will be quicker and developer support will always be more active with the snapdragon compared to the exynos. I currently have the tab pro 8.4 and it's perfect in every way except for the screen. I got spoiled with my note 3 and now I'm not sure I can stand reading off the tab pro in bed at night.
tl;dr if you don't care about the difference in screens, save your money and get the better performing tab pro 8.4

superkevx said:
If you actually don't care about the screen I would 100% get the tab pro 8.4. The snapdragon 800 is a better SOC than the exynos in the tab s. Your tablet will be quicker and developer support will always be more active with the snapdragon compared to the exynos. I currently have the tab pro 8.4 and it's perfect in every way except for the screen. I got spoiled with my note 3 and now I'm not sure I can stand reading off the tab pro in bed at night.
tl;dr if you don't care about the difference in screens, save your money and get the better performing tab pro 8.4
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I use lux lite from google play to reduce the brightness at night.

Thanks for the heads up regarding the Qualcomm vs Exynos thing, guys!
I love to customize my gadget and an active development community means a lot to me
I was leaning to tab S and now reconsidering my decision on tab pro.
If you own both device, I'd like to know your opinion about how it feels at your hand. I cannot try Tab Pro 8.4 at my local store (samsung decide not to sell it here) so I can only get it from grey imports. Does the difference in weight & dimension a significant one?

Hey I'm in the same position, can't decide what Tablet to get, I have however tried both of them in the shop and can say the Faux Leather plastic of the TabPro is not nice however won't we all be having a case on it anyway? As for the size difference is noticeable however in daily use I doubt it'd really effect anybody.
The price difference is £100 so that also plays a part idk how much cheaper the TabPro is for you. I'm also looking at the Nvidia Shield Tablet - let me know what you think to that compared to the Samsung tablets

acasserole said:
Hey I'm in the same position, can't decide what Tablet to get, I have however tried both of them in the shop and can say the Faux Leather plastic of the TabPro is not nice however won't we all be having a case on it anyway? As for the size difference is noticeable however in daily use I doubt it'd really effect anybody.
The price difference is £100 so that also plays a part idk how much cheaper the TabPro is for you. I'm also looking at the Nvidia Shield Tablet - let me know what you think to that compared to the Samsung tablets
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Nvidia shield is a gaming tablet and Samsung's tabs are casual tablet. It depends on your use case; for me, I'd rather play games on my pc instead of tablet.
What do you think about the weight? does Tab S feel more comfortable? It is very light for an 8.4 inch tablet.

Prokeke said:
Nvidia shield is a gaming tablet and Samsung's tabs are casual tablet. It depends on your use case; for me, I'd rather play games on my pc instead of tablet.
What do you think about the weight? does Tab S feel more comfortable? It is very light for an 8.4 inch tablet.
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The Nvidia shield is close to stock android and has the best chipset out atm? and at a competetive price, the only thing is the weight of it...
And The tab was lighter though it's hard to tell when they have the security attachment things on the back. I tried bending it and it felt pretty solid considering how thin and light it was

acasserole said:
The Nvidia shield is close to stock android and has the best chipset out atm? and at a competetive price, the only thing is the weight of it...
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EDIT: I thought it runs on Tegra 4. It turns out to be Tegra K1 which is a better processor.
I'm not sure about the best chipset. Snapdragon 800 has better clockspeed and only one less core. Exynos 5 has 8 core but a little less clockspeed.
While it might be true that it is close to stock android, Nvidia is famous to keep the source of their SoC, making it harder for devs to develop things. I own LG optimus 2x with nvidia tegra 2 chipset and familiar with frustated devs blaming nVidia for it. Also, You can see that there is little to no development going on Shield's forum.
Qualcomm on the other hand is more developer friendly.

Another difference to note is the finger print scanner on the Tab S

I tested the Pro 8.4 and S 8.4 at a store. The S is noticeably lighter and thinner, but it doesn't matter to me since I always uses cases that add some bulk. I really don't like the Pro's extra height, which makes it a little awkward to hold in portrait mode. Its also harder to find sleeve cases that fit the height, without resorting to a sleeve made for a 10" tablet. The Pro is modeled after the Galaxy Note 3, while the S is modeled after the Galaxy S5. The Pro/Note 3's faux leather back is just matte plastic. The S/S5's back has a rubber-like coating thats soft and grippy. Getting the Pro 8.4 was an easy decision, especially due to the lower price. I can't see the difference between LCD and AMOLED screens.

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I use lux lite from google play to reduce the brightness at night.
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Yeah I have tried that. Looks like you have a note 3 also. Try reading something in the dark with the note 3 and black background with grey text. Like google play books with night mode turned on or any app with an amoled option. Then try the same with the gtab pro in the dark and you'll notice a huge difference!

I prefer the pro 8.4 against the s 8.4. Its cheaper by a lot and has a more widely used SoC hence more awesome ROMs to choose from.

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Yeah I have tried that. Looks like you have a note 3 also. Try reading something in the dark with the note 3 and black background with grey text. Like google play books with night mode turned on or any app with an amoled option. Then try the same with the gtab pro in the dark and you'll notice a huge difference!
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Yes I know what you mean. It (ASAmoled screen) is nicer when reading at night, but I can't stand looking at it during the day time. I have already returned the Note 3. I only have S4 and Tab pro 8.4 now.

What is better than an Tab S? Anything comparable?

I still love the size and awesome screen etc of the original S1
Of course battery is an issue but i love the 8.4 inch form factor and thinness.
What Android tablet out there trumps the S1?
I cant seem to think of many.

YEP
I picked the last one off Swappa over the weekend. I have had it before but thought the display wasn't that great. I still don't think it's as good as the S2 display despite being higher PPI. The only thing I think comes close is Huawei Mediapad M3. But it doesn't have as strong of a development community at least at this point. Everything else is comparable or better I think. Great display, but not AMOLED. Comparable performance, SD card slot, USB-C etc.

You dont think the S1 display is good?

in term of what? Display & dimension? None to me. I even dumb my tab s2 8.0 and back to tab s 8.4 due to the screen dimension. Since i watch a lot of movie using the tab i hate the big black bar on tab s2. I really hope they did make the storage to 32GB last time... it will last far longer then the current 16GB space. But it more comfortable if you do reading on Tab S2. Gaming wise... well more less the same. It eat battery like nuts... hahaha... In android world the only thing that can give far more better experience IMO are Nvidia Shield. that's it.

Nothing it cannot be beaten in my opinion, It`s the oled display at 16:10 ratio and 10.5" size that makes it the best, the S2 and S3 have an 4:3 diplay, and if your primary use is video/movies it`s the best.
John.

I am pretty happy with the 10.5 Tab S. It does have flaws, but I don't think it's worth to throw it away and buy a new tablet. However, if it dies, there is no way I am buying another Tab S again. I'd probably go for Lenovo's new line of Yoga Tab 3 Plus 10 inch tablets or for the Huawei mediapad M3. If the prices of the new Tab S3 drop down by the holidays, I'd consider one of those too.

I switched to the tab s3 from a tab s 10.5 last week. Loved my S but it started getting pretty laggy and Ive been waiting for months for something decent to come along and check all the boxes. I'm pretty happy do far, waiting for reviews until I decide on what case to get.
Also, Best Buy gave me $100 trade in for an old note 8.0 Att tablet I had laying around and it looks like I can get $150 easy for the tab s so that makes it easier to swallow.
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And the S1 has stereo speakers in the correct location for watching a video in landscape mode, the S2 and S3 has both speakers on one end for use in an portrait mode, good luck getting a stereo effect with that when you are trying to watch a movie.
John.

Has anyone switched from an ipad to tab S4?

I'm currently using an iPad Air 2 looking for an upgrade, my 2 options being the iPad pro and the Samsung tab S4. If anyone has switched from on ipad onto the Tab S4, I want to know whether the change was good or not? I use my ipad for reading books and digitalized notes plus videos from YouTube, Netflix, Prime video. How does Tab S4 fare as a book reader(pdf)?

Chasing_cars said:
I'm currently using an iPad Air 2 looking for an upgrade, my 2 options being the iPad pro and the Samsung tab S4. If anyone has switched from on ipad onto the Tab S4, I want to know whether the change was good or not? I use my ipad for reading books and digitalized notes plus videos from YouTube, Netflix, Prime video. How does Tab S4 fare as a book reader(pdf)?
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I switched from an iPad pro 2017 to a Tab S4 with no regret.
The iPad is a well built device but I wanted something with more possibilities (root) and being consitant with my android phone (Pixel 3)
With Vanced Youtube, no more annying ads
To read pdf I simply use google pdf reader, no problem to open pdf files as big as 450mb so far.
I think this is he best Android tablet you can buy at the moment

Hey,I switched from ipad 6 gen (2018) to tab s4 and I'm dissapointed,I would rather take ipad pro. The screen color saturation is great tho,but it is slower and more laggy. Ipad pro 2,3gen processor has much better performance and I like the interface more on ipad. But I don't use device as a ebook reader.

Rokz1z said:
Hey,I switched from ipad 6 gen (2018) to tab s4 and I'm dissapointed,I would rather take ipad pro. The screen color saturation is great tho,but it is slower and more laggy. Ipad pro 2,3gen processor has much better performance and I like the interface more on ipad. But I don't use device as a ebook reader.
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I switched from an iPad Air 2. I do miss the iPad Form factor but this is a great tablet. But I have been leaving the Apple ecosystem and the iPad was the last thing I had. I moved to a Pixelbook from a MacBook Pro. I believe this is the best Android tablet on the market today like was mentioned earlier. The 16x10 display is good for movie watching and I have felt no lag like previous Android tablets I have used.
I think this is a pretty good video to take a look at: https://youtu.be/q24uD5UgT-0

I've had 2018 ipad pro, but send it back to Vodafone and got myself tab s4. No regrets.
Ipad is certainly nice looking and powerful, but all that power is restricted by IOS.
I mostly use my tablet for netflix, youtube and such, so 4:3 aspect ration on ipad was annoying. 16:10 on tab s4 is much better, minimal black bars on screen.
Only thing I miss from ipad is face id. It works on day and night unlike gimmicky iris/face unlock of Samsung that struggles in dark or if you wear glasses.

I have both the 2017 iPad Pro 10.5 and the Galaxy Tab S4. In my opinion the 16:9 aspect ratio and the vibrant AMOLED display are much better for media consumption as mentioned in the comments above.
There is no denying that the iPad Pro is very quick with the A10x Bionic SoC and 120Hz display but what can you really do with that power? The Galaxy Tab S4 is not quite as fast but it is certainly no slouch and performs very well in most tasks. It would not have any issues for the purpose that you have described.
In addition, the Tab S4 LTE version (T835) can do phone calls and SMS's as well as WhatsApp and various other mobile apps. (Something that iPad has never supported). It also has support for Bluetooth mouse and keyboard which is very handy if you need to do some basic tasks and don't want to carry a notebook with you.
Finally, the USB-C port on the Tab S4 is more versatile due to the Android OS which is less restrictive than iOS. (For example you can access files on an external drive)
I had the Galaxy Tab S3 before and tend to use my Galaxy tablet more often than the iPad simply because of the flexibility. (For example, I wanted to copy photos and videos onto my tablet to show to some family and friends the other day and just couldn't find an easy way to do that with iPad because once the file were transferred, I wasn't able to find them in the video and image viewer, whereas with the Galaxy Tab, I just connected it to my PC and dropped the files onto the memory card, Done!)

its sad they wont make a flagship tablet. theres no reason for it to be slower than their flagship phones. it would be one thing if it was just a little slower than the ipad in benchmarks, but in some areas its like half the perfomance!

An update on this, I finally got myself the Tab S4 and I'm really happy with it!
•The S pen is awesome to use
•the screen is amazing
•UI and animations are smooth
•Speakers are okayish, could have better bass
•All the apps I need work well with the tab and dont look silly/unoptimised
•Battery backup is nice, although havent timed it yet
•Heaphone Jack!
•Youtube in 1440p!
•Better communiction with my Pixel 2( vs ipad)
•Gaming is smooth(Tested Mortal Kombat X, GTASA, PUBG)
This is quite an underrated tablet TBH, most people see SD835 and 4Gb Ram and trun this down but I think its well worth the price. Samsung has promised pie update in March, lets see. So far so good!

Muller21pr0 said:
I am a really fan of iPad
I really want to buy an iPad or just to try it once
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