Samsung S20 UK Exynos / Snapdragon - Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions &

HI all,
The response to this will probably dictate where I purchase a new S20 from.
I've been using Apple for years, but wanted to move to Android for a while. I though the S20 looked like a safe bet to make that jump, however reading the reviews on-line - the UK Exynos version appears to suffer from bad performance, bad battery life and compatibility issues.
I've thought about getting the HK version from Wondamobile, but VoLTE and Samsung pay would not work. I wonder if I would be able to flash the phone with the UK firmware? If I could, would it trip KNOX?
I don't do any gaming, I just want a decent phone that's not an Apple. Is it worth the hassle for the Snapdragon or shall I just get the UK version of the phone and get on with my life?

lordofarch said:
HI all,
The response to this will probably dictate where I purchase a new S20 from.
I've been using Apple for years, but wanted to move to Android for a while. I though the S20 looked like a safe bet to make that jump, however reading the reviews on-line - the UK Exynos version appears to suffer from bad performance, bad battery life and compatibility issues.
I've thought about getting the HK version from Wondamobile, but VoLTE and Samsung pay would not work. I wonder if I would be able to flash the phone with the UK firmware? If I could, would it trip KNOX?
I don't do any gaming, I just want a decent phone that's not an Apple. Is it worth the hassle for the Snapdragon or shall I just get the UK version of the phone and get on with my life?
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Is impossible to use UK exynos firmware in a HK snapdragon version.
I have a HK snapdragon s9+ and is not possible, and it's true Samsungpay and others don't work. I was thinking the same but with this exynos bull**** a my previous experience I have decided to skip on s20 series and hope for the Note with better exynos chip or better optimize, or s21 [emoji1787]
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theholyguy said:
Is impossible to use UK exynos firmware in a HK snapdragon version.
I have a HK snapdragon s9+ and is not possible, and it's true Samsungpay and others don't work. I was thinking the same but with this exynos bull**** a my previous experience I have decided to skip on s20 series and hope for the Note with better exynos chip or better optimize, or s21 [emoji1787]
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Do you think WIFI calling and VoLTE will work on the HK version in the UK? I don't think i'd miss Samsung pay, I could just use Google Pay

lordofarch said:
Do you think WIFI calling and VoLTE will work on the HK version in the UK? I don't think i'd miss Samsung pay, I could just use Google Pay
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I'm in Switzerland, wifi calling work, VoLTE just work after one year I still don't know why maybe swisscom fix it. Samsung Pay and others never worked.
For a 1200 gbp phone I think don't worth the headaches you might have.
Forget it. Buy exynos or wait. I will wait until August to see if Samsung manage to optimize camera and soc exynos, or for the Note.
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TMobile Galaxy Note10+ 5G WAITING ROOM

Just put in my pre order. Hope it comes before the 6th. Will keep posted if credit card gets charged or get shipping notification
But...
Why?!
Stop hijacking threads. Please stay on topic
stu5797 said:
Stop hijacking threads. Please stay on topic
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This is on topic.
Why do you share this with us?
I saw T-mobile website say note10+ 5g will come with Android 10, anyone can confirm?
From:T-mobile
Other than the 5G feature, how is the Samsung Galaxy Note10+ 5G different than the current Samsung Galaxy Note10+?
In addition to all the great features of the Samsung Galaxy Note10+, such as the large 6.8” QHD+ display, intelligent S Pen, and powerful battery, the new Samsung Galaxy Note10+ 5G will have the 5G-enabled modem and come with the new Android 10 OS out of the box.
What model number and CPU on 5G model?
Nice to have an intelligent response! I really can't believe I seem to be the only one that pre-ordered this phone. Usually the pre-order waiting room threads are huge.
I will let you know if it actually comes with Android 10 once I receive mine.
I'm using Note10+ and I'm still not sure 600Mhz vs mmWave. So I still planing but look like T-mobile only giving deal on pre-order
o601 said:
I saw T-mobile website say note10+ 5g will come with Android 10, anyone can confirm?
From:T-mobile
Other than the 5G feature, how is the Samsung Galaxy Note10+ 5G different than the current Samsung Galaxy Note10+?
In addition to all the great features of the Samsung Galaxy Note10+, such as the large 6.8” QHD+ display, intelligent S Pen, and powerful battery, the new Samsung Galaxy Note10+ 5G will have the 5G-enabled modem and come with the new Android 10 OS out of the box.
What model number and CPU on 5G model?
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On the Samsung Members app, it says Android 10 with OneUI 2 is due in January 2020.
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Is the tar img available for this model?
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asafegous said:
Is the tar img available for this model?
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Look on Sam Mobile...
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I too am trying to find the model# for this unit. I can confirm that the Note 10+ 5G for T-Mobile will only support low and mid band 5G, and mid-band only comes after the Sprint merger happens, as they own that spectrum. This model will not/never support mmWave with the truly blazing speeds.
That said, I think it's going to be a long time before we really (if ever) get to enjoy mmWave, given its inability to penetrate much. The coverage just isn't going to be there for a while. The Sprint (=> T-Mobile) spectrum seems a good compromise as it'll have better penetration plus higher speeds.
I'm planning to stop by T-Mobile store on Friday and possibly do a JUMP! upgrade from Note 9.
I have Verizon 5G N976V on TMB and not picking up any 5G yet. From what I read Verizon has Qualcomms's X50 modem chip while ATT and TMB will have X55 modem for different bands - go figure
Is this really 5G? The coverage map shows WAY too big of an area. Looks like LTE-E.
stu5797 said:
Nice to have an intelligent response! I really can't believe I seem to be the only one that pre-ordered this phone. Usually the pre-order waiting room threads are huge.
I will let you know if it actually comes with Android 10 once I receive mine.
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My question is genuine
Why are you sharing this with us?
Is the T Mobile 5G Variant something special?
Is it specially hard to get?
Pre ordered mine. Actually cheaper than a regular note10 plus right now somehow for me.
Imagine this one is bootloader unlocked like the sprint 5g Samsungs!
Has anyone pre-ordered and done the trade in? I have tried and it keep erroring out on me.
BladeRunner said:
Has anyone pre-ordered and done the trade in? I have tried and it keep erroring out on me.
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I did a trade in, but I did the whole process in the store...
BladeRunner said:
Has anyone pre-ordered and done the trade in? I have tried and it keep erroring out on me.
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I did it last night thur T-mobile apps
Pre-Order....... Tmobile is Co-owned by EE.
EE Released the Note 10+ 5G model at launch. Ive had my phone since August.
As others have stated though, Android 10 wont be released until Jan 2020. A few device may get it leaked early (I think one is already reported) But Samsung do this every release.
An official build gets leaked to a few devices early. Unsure the purpose of this, if its marketing or a hope it leaks out so they can get a few last fixes in before official release.
it has 256gb and im not happy about that.
i have a line unused i will use for this phone. i plan to walk into a store friday to pick one up. the tforce rep didnt give me a nice feeling that the phone would be in my hands by friday if ordered online. i prefer to go the unlocked route and was hoping sammy would have it on their site but no luck yet.
im getting one simply because im an early adopter of electronic products, and here in LA my frequented areas are in 5g. I do understand its 600mhz spectrum...

Unlocked US or wait for International unlocked?

Hi all
In the past I’ve had to buy international variants for the best possible coverage when traveling. Even the US unlocked did not cover as much as their international unlocked counterparts.
I spend a lot of my time overseas so I’m willing to have less then ideal coverage in the united states.
I’ve tried to look up information on the bands but so far have not had much look comparing to see if I should preorder the s20 ultra unlocked in the states or just wait until I go abroad and purchase the international version in a few months when I leave again. Even if I don’t get the deals on preorder.
Which would really be a downer if there isn’t a difference and I could buy it now with all the perks of the promos.
Can anyone enlighten me on if the unlocked US version or international unlocked variant would be more suited to travel outside the States?
Or is their a difference this time?
Thanks!
I have this same question, but here is my dilemma....
The US version work have a snapdragon and a $200 credit at samsung's website for pre-orders but the international version with have the ability to be rooted. Now i have the oneplus 7 pro, with root, i am able to force 90hz refresh rate on ALL apps. If i can root the s20 ultra, i can swap in a kernel that allows 120hz at qhd on alll apps, which is pure gold in itself.
the Kong kong and Latina american variants historically have been snapdragon AND rootable so you can have the better processor wnd root.
that said there has also not been a ton of development for those particular variants which i mever understood since your getting the best of both worlds
I'm in the same boat. My current GS8+ is international variant specifically because of dual sim and root.
I'm conflicted with all the international versions not getting things like 5G vs international. I pre-ordered, I still can cancel my order...
What's the likelihood that US Unlocked version can be rooted within few months? Anyone know if they're adding additional locks to it?
XtremeMaC said:
I'm in the same boat. My current GS8+ is international variant specifically because of dual sim and root.
I'm conflicted with all the international versions not getting things like 5G vs international. I pre-ordered, I still can cancel my order...
What's the likelihood that US Unlocked version can be rooted within few months? Anyone know if they're adding additional locks to it?
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It is my understanding that traditionally, US unlocked version is SiM unlocked but bootloader locked. Therefore, the likelyhood that it will be rootable in a few months will be the same as with other recent phones, next to zero.
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yeah, that's what I'm afraid of..
In thos age of hacking and malware. You couldnt pay me to have a rooted phone. The only advantage was titanium backup and that only half ass works when restoring data. Not worth it.
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johnwayne27 said:
In thos age of hacking and malware. You couldnt pay me to have a rooted phone. The only advantage was titanium backup and that only half ass works when restoring data. Not worth it.
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Viper4android!
very hard choice
- Snapdragon 865 is more power efficient and more powerful ( 10 % against exynos SOC)
but forget root
- Outside US 5G networks aver very very limited
- The exynos will receive more updates
- US version has only one card sim slot
johnwayne27 said:
In thos age of hacking and malware. You couldnt pay me to have a rooted phone. The only advantage was titanium backup and that only half ass works when restoring data. Not worth it.
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You couldn't be more wrong. But hey. Your choice.
Ricardo_G said:
very hard choice
- Snapdragon 865 is more power efficient and more powerful ( 10 % against exynos SOC)
but forget root
- Outside US 5G networks aver very very limited
- The exynos will receive more updates
- US version has only one card sim slot
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5G is all over Europe.
force70 said:
the Kong kong and Latina american variants historically have been snapdragon AND rootable so you can have the better processor wnd root.
that said there has also not been a ton of development for those particular variants which i mever understood since your getting the best of both worlds
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suppp force
so i'm struggling with the choice too, either the SA (latin american snapdragon) or exynos .
I don't really care about development beyond TWRP and Root , not sure what to do
From what I have seen there are also various versions of the international unlocked, some are dual sim and some ha e different bands (with or without 5G).
masri1987 said:
suppp force
so i'm struggling with the choice too, either the SA (latin american snapdragon) or exynos .
I don't really care about development beyond TWRP and Root , not sure what to do
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long time no talk bro, hope all is well?
the snap would be my choice,it will be rootable, could be already for all i know. plus the 865 is far superior to the exynos is pretty much every category.
for me the choice would be easy lol.
force70 said:
long time no talk bro, hope all is well?
the snap would be my choice,it will be rootable, could be already for all i know. plus the 865 is far superior to the exynos is pretty much every category.
for me the choice would be easy lol.
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which model #'s should i be trying to get?
I'm asuming SA is south american models with S865
When's the last time we crossed paths? It wasn't 3xl was it?
Hope you staying safe from teh cabrona virus
masri1987 said:
which model #'s should i be trying to get?
I'm asuming SA is south american models with S865
When's the last time we crossed paths? It wasn't 3xl was it?
Hope you staying safe from teh cabrona virus
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the Hong kong and brazil model number is just SM-G9880. no N,W Or anything else. but they both would be 865s yep.
couldnt have been the 3XL cause i didnt get one, def been awhile though. Im not on as much as I used to be...too many snowflakes lol.
Corona virus has everything shut down here in Ontario, Canada. movies, restaurants, gyms (that one hits hard with me being a bodybuilder).
its crazy.
what about the "N" Korean version? is it rootable? im debating whether to get the international one or the korean version. I want to be rooted with viper4android
yes it should be its exynos.
Korean/ international basically the same thing hardware other than possibly being capable of different network frequencies.
you cannot cross flash Korean and international firmware however if that matters
ive had lots of both and never had issues with either.
Player04 said:
what about the "N" Korean version? is it rootable? im debating whether to get the international one or the korean version. I want to be rooted with viper4android
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This may help you decide.
https://sea.pcmag.com/smartphones/3...-americas-first-unlocked-all-carrier-5g-phone
Im on att. What i wont be able to use the 5g network if i get an international verion. I might get the us verison then

What model # buy for unlocked bootloader

I have been doing some research , was looking to get into the unlocked bootloader snapdragon models for obvious reasons..
Here are the following:
S20 Ultra - SA-G988BD Latin American Snapdragon model (should have unlocked bootloader)
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1549755-REG/samsung_sa_g988bdgr_galaxy_s20_ultra_g988b.html
Same thing for S20+ it's a model # beginning with SA.
Are these models truly bootloader unlockable, and how is development for unlockable snapdragon samsung devices?
Where should I be sourcing the purchase from?
known sellers of F\DS versions (exynos) (of all variants)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...hash=item1f0b2b1cc8:m:mSdP4qhLx0dRJgKOI8ClGMw
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...92:m:mo1w8WlyKXHUa-jnEGtmWjg&var=503079501845
If you know of other sellers , sources, please post em up and i'll update OP
I'd prefer to buy the snapdragon model, if i could unlock bootloader and root...
Bump
Any advice? would like to pull the trigger soon
anyone?
Ok so from what I've read and it's everywhere btw..
The Snapdragon variant does not allow bootloader unlocking. However it's probably going to be substantially faster both CPU and GPU, plus more efficient.
The exynos is going to be unlockable.
But the downside is that it's going to be slower, less efficient and if memory serves; developers hate the exynos chipset and the madness that comes with it.
Not very well optimized, but hey it's the price you pay.
If you're not in the EU then the SD is the preferred choice. As the 5G bands appear to be regionally specific, not sure if this will change in the future but from past experiences, if it doesn't exist on launch then don't assume it'll be added later..
I'm losing heart in this device and it's stupid chipset conundrum, plus the price is stratospheric, there shouldn't be a compromise, but obviously there is.
My advice if you haven't commited yet, wait for the OnePlus 8 pro, it'll have the 865, will have 120hz, wireless charging, ip68 and will be unlockable..
Unless you're in the states and your provider locks it down. In which case, get it direct. Pay it off with PayPal finance.
dladz said:
Ok so from what I've read and it's everywhere btw..
The Snapdragon variant does not allow bootloader unlocking. However it's probably going to be substantially faster both CPU and GPU, plus more efficient.
The exynos is going to be unlockable.
But the downside is that it's going to be slower, less efficient and if memory serves; developers hate the exynos chipset and the madness that comes with it.
Not very well optimized, but hey it's the price you pay.
If you're not in the EU then the SD is the preferred choice. As the 5G bands appear to be regionally specific, not sure if this will change in the future but from past experiences, if it doesn't exist on launch then don't assume it'll be added later..
I'm losing heart in this device and it's stupid chipset conundrum, plus the price is stratospheric, there shouldn't be a compromise, but obviously there is.
My advice if you haven't commited yet, wait for the OnePlus 8 pro, it'll have the 865, will have 120hz, wireless charging, ip68 and will be unlockable..
Unless you're in the states and your provider locks it down. In which case, get it direct. Pay it off with PayPal finance.
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ya i'm in the states and yes you are right it seems everywhere,
I really don't want to deal with exynos madness again, i dealt with that on my note 8 korean version and even signal suffered horribly.
I heart the "N" models (the korean variant) is also SD? and locked? is this really true?
I remember back in the day snapdragon Latin american and HK variants were unlockable...
masri1987 said:
ya i'm in the states and yes you are right it seems everywhere,
I really don't want to deal with exynos madness again, i dealt with that on my note 8 korean version and even signal suffered horribly.
I heart the "N" models (the korean variant) is also SD? and locked? is this really true?
I remember back in the day snapdragon Latin american and HK variants were unlockable...
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N version unlock. I use it now
Barcovn said:
N version unlock. I use it now
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bootloader unlocked?
can u show proof?
any update from you guys ? which versions have you purchased?
So i actually can't seem to find the unlockable bootloader snapdragon model anywhere, which one is it?
Any news?
Are the version SM-G9880 and SM-G988N unlockable? Or are every SD versions locked? Does someone have any information about this? I'm considering returning my Exynos version and import the SD one from WondaMobile. Either the G9880 or the G988N depending on whether they're unlockable or not.
N version, oem unlock work. However i can't find any twrp or guide regarding root for snap 865
Yeah, i ordered also a 988N. That's great!
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nobrain3000 said:
Yeah, i ordered also a 988N. That's great!
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Lot of Korean Bloatwares. Hope can root and debloat them soon
Aezhyr said:
Any news?
Are the version SM-G9880 and SM-G988N unlockable? Or are every SD versions locked? Does someone have any information about this? I'm considering returning my Exynos version and import the SD one from WondaMobile. Either the G9880 or the G988N depending on whether they're unlockable or not.
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Barcovn said:
N version, oem unlock work. However i can't find any twrp or guide regarding root for snap 865
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nobrain3000 said:
Yeah, i ordered also a 988N. That's great!
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Barcovn said:
Lot of Korean Bloatwares. Hope can root and debloat them soon
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I ordered the g9880HK snapdragon version from eBay store never msrp. I get it on Tuesday
Barcovn said:
Lot of Korean Bloatwares. Hope can root and debloat them soon
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Can't you remove the bloatware with adb commands?
Just a note to anyone considering the exynos chipset. They Run Hot and Battery life is Terrible! The Snapdragon is also far superior!
Aezhyr said:
Can't you remove the bloatware with adb commands?
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Yess and package disabler works too.
nobrain3000 said:
Yess and package disabler works too.
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What's safe to disable?

Few questions about note 10 plus

Ok, first of all, I am thinking to buy soon between iPad pro 11 or note 10 plus, I know that one is tablet one is smartphone but both has pros and cons.
I live in Europe but if I will buy Snapdragon version will I get updates and warranty in EU or not.
And what about camera quality is this so bad as ppl describing on forum or is just software problem?
Camera is fine. No idea on Snapdragon 10+ warranty is valid in Europe. I suggest you ask a European Samsung store.
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The camera is excellent, many people over exagerate their experience with it, some even dare to say that some midrangers make better photos, which clearly denotes the intention of their comments, but, I would get a device intended for my country, mostly due to warranty assurances
neomesjasz said:
Ok, first of all, I am thinking to buy soon between iPad pro 11 or note 10 plus, I know that one is tablet one is smartphone but both has pros and cons.
I live in Europe but if I will buy Snapdragon version will I get updates and warranty in EU or not.
And what about camera quality is this so bad as ppl describing on forum or is just software problem?
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You will get updates as normal, however you won't get any warranty in the EU, Samsung only cover warranty for devices bought in a specific region, a Spanish service centre for example will not do repairs on a American device.
Camera is down to preference in my opinion, I had a P30 Pro & although on paper it has a higher megapixel count, I find Samsung's colour algorithm & HDR to be better.
Ok, thank to you all for answer.
Asked Samsung support and they said that no warranty and no updates via OTA if I buy from different region.
neomesjasz said:
no updates via OTA if I buy from different region.
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This is false
TheInfiniteAndroid said:
This is false
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Just saying what Samsung support said it to me, and could be true because it's similar with Motorola.
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Just saying what Samsung support said it to me, and could be true because it's similar with Motorola.
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I have a Canadian Note 10 in the UK & have had all OTAs, so like I said originally, not true, I talk from experience
TheInfiniteAndroid said:
I have a Canadian Note 10 in the UK & have had all OTAs, so like I said originally, not true, I talk from experience
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So you think it's worth it to buy from America with Snapdragon? So it's not only security patches but upgrade to android 10 too?
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So you think it's worth it to buy from America with Snapdragon? So it's not only security patches but upgrade to android 10 too?
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Yes, I got mine on 9.0 Pie & had several OTAs including Android 10 & security patches
My Note 9 was from Australia and I am in Europe and got updates no problem.
I personally would pick an Exynos in Europe and enjoy the 24 month warranty that comes with it.

Question New International Version - S901E

For the first time here in Brazil (and a few other countries), Samsung decided to sell the Snapdragon version of Galaxy S series, model S901E. S901B is equipped with Exynos.
Samsung always delays updates for Brazil, sometimes for months. Now with this international Snapdragon version, what csc is the best for updates and features?
Maybe S9010_TGY(HK) is a better option.
SM-S9010_TGY_S9010ZHU1AVBH
albertcqy said:
Maybe S9010_TGY(HK) is a better option.
SM-S9010_TGY_S9010ZHU1AVBH
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You can't install S9010 Chinese firmware on International S901E, otherwise you'll brick your phone.
Answering my own question, I'm using INS. Seems to be the best choice, since India is one of the most important market to Samsung.

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