OnePlus 8 Pro Camera vs Pixel 4 Camera - OnePlus 8 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion

I thought you might be interested in the camera being put up against the Pixel 4 -
Start off with a blind test, camera A or camera B and see if you can guess which is which! The video then shows some of the differences before moving on to some video samples in varying conditions. It really surprised me how well the OnePlus 8 Pro stacks up against what is generally considered the best Android camera at present.

I find it really frustrating that when reviewing phones almost every reviewer uses entirely static scenes and goes straight from either outdoors in good light to really low light/night mode stuff.
Photos of people (or pets) in average light (i.e. indoors) is where the rubber really meets the road for phones IMO and is where the Pixel and iPhone 11 are still better. I have all 3 phones BTW, currently using the 8 pro and do really like it but if camera was my # priority I'd be using the iPhone or Pixel.

Sorry, I don't have any pets. That and the lock down means I'm left with generally static subjects!

8pro does very well to be fair. With updates it should get better too.
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AndyCr15 said:
Sorry, I don't have any pets. That and the lock down means I'm left with generally static subjects!
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Sorry meant no offence, it is an observation for all youtube reviewers. I think all of today's flagships are pretty decent in good light and it then comes down to preference.

No offence taken. It's an interesting point I hadn't considered.

AndyCr15 said:
Sorry, I don't have any pets. That and the lock down means I'm left with generally static subjects!
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Sorry meant no offence, it is an observation for all youtube reviewers. I think all of today's flagships are pretty decent in good light and it then comes down to preference.
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No offence taken. It's an interesting point I hadn't considered.
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sorry to be off-topic nice to see 2 guys discuss a matter with no rant and clearing up things in a polite manner...not always the case these days... thank you...

ha ha, yeah I guess it can be a rarity these days!

I'm very impressed so far. Big upgrade from my 6T to say the least. Macro is fun to play around with. I can honestly see myself using the macro feature a fair bit. I haven't had a chance to try out low light yet, but I'll cross my fingers.

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I'm very impressed so far. Big upgrade from my 6T to say the least. Macro is fun to play around with. I can honestly see myself using the macro feature a fair bit. I haven't had a chance to try out low light yet, but I'll cross my fingers.
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haha me too, didn't thought i would use macro more often

Everybody keeps telling me how great the pixel camera is due to it's software
I keep seeing the results and think, yes it's a great pic but I just can't see much difference to any flagship camera other than it makes colours more saturated.
It's all swings and roundabouts

Anyone elses 3x zoom pictures are brighter than usual compared to what is showing on the viewfinder?

Edit: Doesn't happen when I use burst mode on 3x. Example attached.

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[Q] This 5MP camera isn't looking good, is it?

I've been reading about how lower MP can actually mean better low light performance and this camera may just beat the 8MP competition. Zero-shutter lag being really awesome too.
But then looking at the photos taken with it by an Android developer...
https://plus.google.com/photos/107606703558161507946/albums/5669407328146570481
Where is this awesome quality? Those pictures look no better than what my Galaxy S takes.
Not only is this outclassed by the 8MP camera in the S2 and iPhone 4S, it may be outclassed by the old 5MP Galaxy/Nexus S.
Those photos seem to have more noise and odd colour compared to photos from my Galaxy S.
Low light photos look like they might be better, but overall these don't look good.
I don't know how people manage to compare image quality between different phone cameras - they all look equally terrible to me.
Not sure how you can make a quality call based on 1 phone and 1 person operating.
How can you tell without having side by side shots of the same scenes at the same time with 2 or 3 different devices?
I find it extremely hard to believe that the Galaxy Nexus would have the same camera performance as the Nexus S.
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How can you tell without having side by side shots of the same scenes at the same time with 2 or 3 different devices?
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Do you need to put a Mini and a bus side by side to tell which is bigger?
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Do you need to put a Mini and a bus side by side to tell which is bigger?
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How is that comparison even remotely similar? Size difference can be seen in anything but pitch black.
Would you be able to determine if the Mini and the bus were the exact same color (exact nuance) in completely different light? No, probably not and even then you are basically cheating because your brain will adjust the colors you see based on what it "knows" other things should look like.
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Do you need to put a Mini and a bus side by side to tell which is bigger?
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That only works because the size of a Mini and a bus are known values (relatively). The quality of this camera is not a known value, and because of that you can't make an accurate comparison.
By this analogy, you're saying that you can look at a photo of one car, and immediately tell me if its the same as another car you've never seen...
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How is that comparison even remotely similar? Size difference can be seen in anything but pitch black.
Would you be able to determine if the Mini and the bus were the exact same color (exact nuance) in completely different light? No, probably not and even then you are basically cheating because your brain will adjust the colors you see based on what it "knows" other things should look like.
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This
People love to jump to conclusions that its a bad camera because its 5MP, and then from that initial point, they simply assume everything it does is terrible. I wonder how the tables would be turned if it were a low quality 12MP camera, and every picture it took was sh*t but everyone just said it was amazing. People see what they want to see.
Just wait until the galaxy nexus comes out, and then you'll see the true power of the 5mp camera they put in it. It will be a great shooter.
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Seriously? Its a phone, not a dedicated camera. If you don't like it don't get the phone.
Punched in..
It really does not look very good. I hope that it is not final version of nexus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dPe3lsoVQA
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I don't know how people manage to compare image quality between different phone cameras - they all look equally terrible to me.
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I agree. Phone cameras arent like absolute trash terrible but they're all so equally bad thats its incredibly hard to tell the difference.
Between the click of the light and the start of a dream.
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It really does not look very good. I hope that it is not final version of nexus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dPe3lsoVQA
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And you're judging that video what about this video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhlL-ys5iOA
So you see we have two totally different videos. Which one should we believe now?
I recommend wait until it's out and test it if possible or trust your preferd reviewer when he did his job with the Nexus.
The only photos I've seen are of a shipping dock. Hard to make that look good.
I am not judging. I am shareing what I found. Video that I posted was shot in "realistic" environment, another one is heavily modified. Anyway, there is no need to be nervous or judgemental.
I agree that we should wait and see how retail model performes.
Lets judging when phone is out
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I am not judging. I am shareing what I found. Video that I posted was shot in "realistic" environment, another one is heavily modified. Anyway, there is no need to be nervous or judgemental.
I agree that we should wait and see how retail model performes.
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That's what the filmer says to the video.
The only processing done on the original footage was to speed it up in the first clip.
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The video clips were shot without the help of a tripod and shake a little bit. The time-lapse clips were shot using a Stage Zero Dolly from Dynamic Perception
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So it was as well made under "realistic" circumstances. Expect from the first part. But he is a Android dev so who knows if it's true or not.
I didn't really pay much attention to the camera on the Galaxy Nexus as it seems good enough. The Engadget comparisons sometimes show it on par with the Nexus S, sometimes a little worse. What I'm more interested in is the 1080p video, which looks a whole lot better than anything else on the market (I've seen a dozen videos from different places already) and even better than the Galaxy S II. The audio capture, another sadly ignored pivotal part of video recording, is quite stellar. It really irks me when all the reviewers tout the earsplitting garble of sound on HTC phones as first-class because they look at the 44khz stereo spec and somehow ignore the actual sound, which is really terrible. I would love to get a unibody HTC phone, but this has been their achilles heel for me, and their video capture as a whole.
You can't deny that the camera on a phone is important, is a very very big selling point, and many people do make their buying decisions on the phone's ability to replace a dedicated point-and-shoot camera, and many phones are at that level right now. If you are too enamored with DSLR quality photos, you might not notice that camera quality in phones has jumped up leaps and bounds, regardless of MP. My five megapixel Samsung slider I bought 4 years ago is worse than your typical 5 megapixel budget smartphone camera. It's also 50% fatter and super slow. The software and processing, backlight sensors, wide angles, apertures, and other fancy stuff have improved drastically over the years. 1080p video is leaps and bounds above the QCIF stuff only a few years back.
Um, am I alone in thinking those pictures look just dandy? It's a phone. I'm not taking artistic photos, as long as they're clear and sharp (which those are) then there's no issue.
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Um, am I alone in thinking those pictures look just dandy? It's a phone. I'm not taking artistic photos, as long as they're clear and sharp (which those are) then there's no issue.
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+1 on that. And Most of the pictures where shaky und unsharp but that's due to the user and not to the camera. The pictures which were sharp however are okay and look totally fine for a phone.
have we all really forgotten about the fact that if you upload a picture to most websites, the picture becomes compressed?
being a car enthusiast like others here apparently, this is like comparing the same car on the same track with the same driver.. except one lap is in the rain and one lap is in the dry. of course results will be different!
For everyone who is complaining about the quality of the camera, I don't see what you're basing your judgement on. First, admit right now that all cell phone cameras take crap pictures! It's simple physics. Your point and shoot camera is only marginally better. More to the point, the limited samples I have seen would appear on par with other current devices. But without a comprehensive side by side comparison of the Galaxy Nexus to the 4s (or others) either qualitatively or quantitatively in a controlled environment, you just can't tell much. Shooting video of the sun and then the ground demonstrates very little especially when the comparison video is un-synced and crammed into a small PIP box.
Seems some are having a knee jerk reaction to not getting all 8 megapixels. Unless you are printing 8x10s, it doesn't really matter. If you are, get a DSLR! A good quality lower resolution camera can easily spank a cheaper higher resolution camera. The glass plays a huge role. As do chromatic aberration, exposure, latitude, color balance, sensitivity, focus, speed, image stabilization, noise reduction, white balance and so on. And don't even get me started on compression.

[Q] Camera quality due to hardware or software or both?

Hello all,
Do you think the issues with the Galaxy Nexus camera are due to software issues or is the camera sensor just really that bad? It seems that the low light capability of this camera is even worse than that of the Nexus S. I've never had any issues with my camera phones in the past producing such crap photos as the one this phone produces(HTC Sensation, Nexus S and original Nexus). I'm thinking about just going back to my Nexus S and selling this one.
I've attached two photos that someone posted on Google+ illustrating how bad the Galaxy Nexus compares to the Asus Transformer Prime's camera. This is really frustrating and if I were Google and/or Samsung, I'd be embarrassed.
Not the same angle, not the same focus point which impacts the validity of this comparison.
Also note that there is a little bit more detail in the more grainy shot. This is something that actually could be improved with a software update.
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Not the same angle, not the same focus point which impacts the validity of this comparison.
Also note that there is a little bit more detail in the more grainy shot. This is something that actually could be improved with a software update.
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Hmm...each picture look pretty close to the same angle. I'm more concerned with the graininess of the Galaxy Nexus photo. It seems that the camera's ISO is too high which is why it's producing a grainy picture.
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Hmm...each picture look pretty close to the same angle. I'm more concerned with the graininess of the Galaxy Nexus photo. It seems that the camera's ISO is too high which is why it's producing a grainy picture.
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It mainly comes down to a balance of exposure time, ISO, picture quality level of the sensor at that ISO and noise reduction algorithms/general software post-processing of the image.
I agree that there is quite some room for improvement in this area on the GN camera. I hope Google/Samsung will address this in an update someday.
Apart from this, any phone camera sucks at low light.
I find the camera really good. The only thing I find kind of strange is how photo's look in a dim room with flash on close up.
Videos look godly
Coming from the SG2 the Nexus certainly is a step backwards. What has impressed me about the Nexus camera is the ability to focus and stay focused, and snap shots almost instantly. The SG2 has issues with focus and delays. In movie mode the SG2 would come in and out of focus even when I have not moved the phone at all. Taking photos of moving objects on the SG2 is a real challenge because of its inability to focus, but having said that the photos that are taken properly do come out very sharp and vibrant, especially given enough daylight.
So where the Nexus improved vastly on focus speed, it fails in image quality. Even in moderate light I see more than usual noise from photos taken with the Nexus.
I look forward to the SGIII.
I just remind myself that I'm taking pictures with a phone. So I don't care. I also have not had issues with photos. Especially when I remind myself, again, that I am using a phone to take pictures with.
mzrdisi said:
I just remind myself that I'm taking pictures with a phone. So I don't care. I also have not had issues with photos. Especially when I remind myself, again, that I am using a phone to take pictures with.
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Yeah dude, I agree. If I want yo take sick photo's, I'd use a camera anyway, even if the phone is the best "camera" phone on the market. Its for quick shots. I agree aswell that the Gnex could be better... But I've seen/used worse. = )
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I just remind myself that I'm taking pictures with a phone. So I don't care. I also have not had issues with photos. Especially when I remind myself, again, that I am using a phone to take pictures with.
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Amen!
That's why I lug a DSLR around with me when I go away for work.
REAL camera = photography, cell phone = phone with a point & shoot camera built into it.
For indoor pics just set your phone to Party preset. Works best.
You can get similar / better results by manually choosing the white balance and exposure settings depending on your light conditions. But for quick snaps, just select party mode and see the difference.
Camera is more than decent.
Personally I am using Camera Zoom FX for most of the time. But in certain low light conditions, stock camera app with party preset actually does much better job.
This is one of the worst camera I seen in years.
This is what really holds me back from buying a GN these days...I would be interested in your guys thoughts: Do you think that there will be some software based improvements within the next weeks? Or is it just the lense (or some hardware stuff like that, not my terrain here^^), which can´t be improved?
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This is what really holds me back from buying a GN these days...I would be interested in your guys thoughts: Do you think that there will be some software based improvements within the next weeks? Or is it just the lense (or some hardware stuff like that, not my terrain here^^), which can´t be improved?
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Hardware is always limiting. No amount of software can make something better than it physically can be. I'm not saying that updates cant fix the issues we're seeing, I actually believe the contrary. There is a lot you can do with software to really tweak things. But you can't compare a phone camera to a DSLR or something like it.
I personally believe google will update the camera but the question is when. Personally I think the camera is great. I think it depends on what you're used to taking pictures with, and how ocd/picky you are about quality. The SGS2 has better camera hardware, but do try to remember the issues it had when it first came out. The camera quality issues of it were patched up really nice with a software update so don't give your hopes up.
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Hardware is always limiting. No amount of software can make something better than it physically can be. I'm not saying that updates cant fix the issues we're seeing, I actually believe the contrary. There is a lot you can do with software to really tweak things. But you can't compare a phone camera to a DSLR or something like it.
I personally believe google will update the camera but the question is when. Personally I think the camera is great. I think it depends on what you're used to taking pictures with, and how ocd/picky you are about quality. The SGS2 has better camera hardware, but do try to remember the issues it had when it first came out. The camera quality issues of it were patched up really nice with a software update so don't give your hopes up.
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Thanks for your input! Yeah I´m coming from an SGSII, atm I´m on a Galaxy Note...so both of my current devices do have better hardware...in the past there was the HD2, which had some terrible software bugs, that have been worked out within months. The last roms I used with the HD2 really pushed the photoquality...
I came from the sgs2 and they are almost identical, I do find the nexus a bit sharper. Great macro
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I started using Shot Control over the stock camera app. It seems to do a better job of with the settings and does give a higher degree of fine tuning them. Give up the panorama mode though, which I love!
People want the highest quality, buy a freaking camera. Or get over it already, stop making this kind of threads.
i am completely dissatisfied with the camera on this phone. I came from a Nexus One to the Gnex. The Nexus one has an AMAAAZING camera on it. Of course HTC uses better hardware. Ill post comparison pics later... damn samsung!
how can i reduce the noise (or grain... i dont know the exact english term) in the pic??
the pics on first posts explain very good the problem.
thx a lot.
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how can i reduce the noise (or grain... i dont know the exact english term) in the pic??
the pics on first posts explain very good the problem.
thx a lot.
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In short...you can't. The hardware in a device this small can't do much more than that.

The camera is good on this?

It really is. I have no idea why so many people whine about it. My girlfriend quite often uses my phone instead of hers for pictures because the camera is so nice. Only time it sucks is if I zoom in at night with zero lighting. Basically have to try to make it anything but amazing. I can capture beautiful pictures of animals mid hop which is hard even with a real camera. OK rant over but I'm impressed by it.
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because it is apart of humanity. we as humans always like to find something to criticize about, either that or they are trolls from other phone forums trying to bash the galaxy nexus. kinda like the whole criticism of "lack of sdcard" or "plastic phone". the camera is perfectly fine as long as its focused properly.
best tip is to just ignore them and keep using the phone we all enjoy the most
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because it is apart of humanity. we as humans always like to find something to criticize about, either that or they are trolls from other phone forums trying to bash the galaxy nexus. kinda like the whole criticism of "lack of sdcard" or "plastic phone". the camera is perfectly fine as long as its focused properly.
best tip is to just ignore them and keep using the phone we all enjoy the most
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Hmmm true honestly I forget that people like trolling since I can't see the point. The sdcard thing is my only gripe but I keep seeing things about the camera. When I got this phone I was beyond surprised by how awesome my camera is now.
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Its definitely better the the LG Revolution. I don't mind the camera.
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Hmmm true honestly I forget that people like trolling since I can't see the point. The sdcard thing is my only gripe but I keep seeing things about the camera. When I got this phone I was beyond surprised by how awesome my camera is now.
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honestly i don't see a problem with 16GB, i mean yeah its nice to have a SD card slot. Verizon users have 32GB. The phone itself (in GSM form) should of came with 32GB in my opinion. But it's not a big deal for me.
I don't understand why people need to carry all their movies and music on their phone at the same time. It's not like they're going to watch everything they stored on their phone. And there is always USB OTG where you can plug a USB drive into your phone for expandable storage.
4.0.4 also improved the camera. my same ideology goes with the camera, phone cameras are for CASUAL pictures. if you're going to go out to a important event like a wedding or whatever it is... you'd have a DEDICATED camera such as a canon rebel eos or something of that sort. it would produce higher quality. same thing for GPS etc etc. yes i know its convenient, but we have to all realize that the GN is a phone. Not a superphone that can do everything in one device.
In good lighting the camera takes good shots. In low lighting the shots are extremely washed out. Coming from a rezound I like the pics better on the nexus in good light...even though the rezound has an on avg better camera. It can pass.
Knocking a phone for having a plastic build is pathetic. Mine is in a case...who cares what it is made of. As long as its in a case no one will ever know lol.
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In good lighting the camera takes good shots. In low lighting the shots are extremely washed out. Coming from a rezound I like the pics better on the nexus in good light...even though the rezound has an on avg better camera. It can pass.
Knocking a phone for having a plastic build is pathetic. Mine is in a case...who cares what it is made of. As long as its in a case no one will ever know lol.
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Phone actually feels really good regardless if it's plastic. When compared to a Galaxy S1, I feel that Samsung did a really good job on the Galaxy S2 backcover. Can't say too much about Galaxy S3 though. Looks like a downgrade.
+1 with case... Ringke Slim Case + Extended Battery = Perfection!
Why not have a look at photos taken with the phone?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392436
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Why not have a look at photos taken with the phone?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392436
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You should read the thread before posting.
The OP is not asking if the GN camera is good or not. The OP is stating his OWN opinion about the camera and he feels that the camera is good enough and wonders why people complain about the camera.
Thanks I couldn't find that thread. I think we get some damn good quality for a phone.
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****ty craftsmen blame their tools.
I've got an ET4G SGS2 until tomorrow. From the pics I've seen here and round the web I'm sure I'll get the same quality (if not better) pictures from this camera...they'll just be slightly smaller.
Also people think they are "tipped off" by their "superior intellect" that the camera must suck because it has 3mp less than most cameras. I see it as having 3mp less noise in the image. I have a 16mp digital camera....that doesn't mean that it necessarily takes better pictures--zoom in the 1:1 pixel-for-pixel and tell me that you really need all 8mp when--even on a good well focused steady shot in great lighting--you see noticeable noise in every shot. Show me a phone camera (or even ANY digital camera) that consistently doesn't do this at all.
I'm not worried at all. I'm a musician....I've been in bands....played out for more than half of my life (I'm 32). Other musicians and band guys will likely know exactly what I'm talking about....lots of people are just about to start a band, project, song, video, production company, etc....but they just need that one last key piece of equipment to get them started. An artist wants to create art with whatever they have, everyone else will blame their tools for not making them great.
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You should read the thread before posting.
The OP is not asking if the GN camera is good or not. The OP is stating his OWN opinion about the camera and he feels that the camera is good enough and wonders why people complain about the camera.
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Apparently you didn't read my post. I simply suggested he admire the great photos taken with the phone by others. Please refer to the OPs post below yours.
The camera on this is great. Just because it has less pixels than most other cameras it doesn't take horrible pictures. I still consider it an upgrade from my 8mp DINC.
I like it too. I installed Camera FV-5 and it has dSLR controls. Good for casual shooting
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Phone actually feels really good regardless if it's plastic.
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Agreed. And I don't see it pointed out very often that the HTC Rezound is 100% plastic, the RAZR which claims to be aluminum feels a hell of a lot like plastic to me, the Thunderbolt, Revolution, X, X2, Bionic, Charge, Evo, Evo 3D, Evo LTE and 50 other high end phones over the last couple years - plastic. Even Casio's rugged phones are plastic. It's an illogical complaint, that's my point.
You guys are kidding right? The camera is simply not that good. It's not terrible, but just very disappointing for such a new flagship phone.
It has nothing to do with megapixels. If I read a review that compares cameras solely based on megapixels, I walk away. With the Nexus, it looks great in the viewfinder, but after I take a picture, I zoom in and it's usually blurry. I have gotten into the habit of taking 3 pictures and discarding the two worst ones and almost always the first pic is blurry as hell. I came from a 5mp Sony Ericsson Hazel feature phone with dedicated shutter button and I kinda miss it. I rarely needed to retake pictures like this. I'm only on 4.0.2 right now, so hopefully they did fix it in software.
The sensor is just weak, especially in low light. Annoyingly, our phone also loses to the iPhone 4s in picture quality. will try to find the link later.
It's pretty decent for the phone. You obviously can't expect SLR kind of quality but in good light it's very good.
The ICS improvements have made it very snappy too. Love the panaroma feature if that makes you tick...
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You guys are kidding right? The camera is simply not that good. It's not terrible, but just very disappointing for such a new flagship phone.
It has nothing to do with megapixels. If I read a review that compares cameras solely based on megapixels, I walk away. With the Nexus, it looks great in the viewfinder, but after I take a picture, I zoom in and it's usually blurry. I have gotten into the habit of taking 3 pictures and discarding the two worst ones and almost always the first pic is blurry as hell. I came from a 5mp Sony Ericsson Hazel feature phone with dedicated shutter button and I kinda miss it. I rarely needed to retake pictures like this. I'm only on 4.0.2 right now, so hopefully they did fix it in software.
The sensor is just weak, especially in low light. Annoyingly, our phone also loses to the iPhone 4s in picture quality. will try to find the link later.
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I believe they did fix the focusing problems with the 4.0.4 update. Give it a go and see.
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You guys are kidding right? The camera is simply not that good. It's not terrible, but just very disappointing for such a new flagship phone.
It has nothing to do with megapixels. If I read a review that compares cameras solely based on megapixels, I walk away. With the Nexus, it looks great in the viewfinder, but after I take a picture, I zoom in and it's usually blurry. I have gotten into the habit of taking 3 pictures and discarding the two worst ones and almost always the first pic is blurry as hell. I came from a 5mp Sony Ericsson Hazel feature phone with dedicated shutter button and I kinda miss it. I rarely needed to retake pictures like this. I'm only on 4.0.2 right now, so hopefully they did fix it in software.
The sensor is just weak, especially in low light. Annoyingly, our phone also loses to the iPhone 4s in picture quality. will try to find the link later.
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Its not a flagship phone. The Galaxy S III is a flagship phone. The HTC One X is a flagship phone. The GALAXY Nexus is a REFERENCE device.
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You guys are kidding right? The camera is simply not that good. It's not terrible, but just very disappointing for such a new flagship phone.
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I'm only on 4.0.2 right now, so hopefully they did fix it in software.
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And that is why the GN's camera has a bad reputation. People stuck with old firmwares giving their impression even though many camera problems were fixed.

How bad is the camera vs flagships of 2 years ago?

Not expecting S7 edge/7+ quality here.
Coming from S5, is it better/worse/equal?
Seems like this is the only weakness of the device, at $250 on LeMall Black Friday can't ask for much more!
Snapdragon 821 with 4000 battery, it makes everyone else look like a joke.
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Not expecting S7 edge/7+ quality here.
Coming from S5, is it better/worse/equal?
Seems like this is the only weakness of the device, at $250 on LeMall Black Friday can't ask for much more!
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It's better than my S5, Nexus 6 and OnePlus one cameras. It's as good as my 6p and oneplus 2 camera, it's worse than my S6 edge camera and worse than my wife's iPhone 6s camera...just purely objectively but that's how I would rank it in the phones I have used in the last two years.
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Weidas said:
I also have a nexus 6p, and boy oh boy do i disagree. 6p camera is hundreds of miles ahead, in daylight its quite better with details and especially with dynamic range, and in low light photos are about same quality as 6p front camera lmao. But i find 6p camera to be one of the best of all smartphones, so no biggie. Pro 3 has very decent goodlight photos, definitely better than s5, but really suffers in not so good conditions. Video quality is also average at best. To summarise camera is more than decent for social networks and stuff, but if you are into photography and want good pictures i wouldnt recommend this phone. It has many strong sides, camera isnt one of them.
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I agree with you mostly, but the speed of the 6p camera is really poor. In low light 6p takes good pictures, but only with the HDR mode, and then it becomes even slower.
LP3 is a much faster camera.
No, I am not into photography. For regular 'social networks and stuff' photography I will keep LP3 camera ahead of 6p.
Adding a fun fact. I often video record long class lectures. While using a 6p for recording a 720p video of 90min, the phone gets really hot, and loses more than 50% of the battery. LP3 for the same scenario still runs cool, loses only 20% battery. I guess it's the generation gap of the CPU.
The 6p camera, like the 6p in general was a love hate thing for me. Everytime I thought it had an amazing camera I would get a string of crap photos. Not sure why. Just like everytime I thought it was an amazingly fast phone I would go through a stretch where it was terribly laggy. Felt like I was always factory resetting it...
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In light pictures are pretty good, but in dark? Am I the only one as soon as it gets a little bit darker, the camera doesn't der anything anymore?
Drowzz said:
In light pictures are pretty good, but in dark? Am I the only one as soon as it gets a little bit darker, the camera doesn't der anything anymore?
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Yeah it's poor in low light.
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Use Google camera app and it will be as good as Nexus 5X and better than iPhone 7
My note 4 camera is way much better than leeco pro 3
Let's just post some night shoot from the LP3 to compare with our older phone.
The camera is the exact same module that's inside the one plus 3T. It's actually a good camera. The issue is its implementation. The camera can get way better with the right update or ROM.
Weidas said:
Except 3t has ois.
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Yes, of course...
Was simply speaking to the module itself...but good thing to clarify. ???
Weidas said:
Sorry but thats far from true. And all professional reviews just prove that.
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All professional reviews? Where? show me where they used Google Camera app on Le Pro 3. I have my own comparison. iPhone 7 is pathetic compared to Nexus 5X. Not even better than Galaxy S4.
Here is my comparison of LePro3 using Google Camera App vs. Default vs Default HDR.
Weidas said:
Yes, 1 random photo of a teddybear is sure a "comparison" lmao. And yes, suddenly using a google camera, makes 1.12micrometer camera sensor perform better than 1.55micrometer sensor in nexus lmao. Can you be more ridiculous? Oneplus 3 uses same sensor, + it has ois and way better software optimisation than le pro 3, and its camera is still **** compared to nexus 5x/6p.
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I can produce the same amount of comparisons with the same amount of nonsense you are talking about. Galaxy S7 has smaller sensor than Nexus 5X/6P but it peformed better or equal in comparison.
With a little bit of post processing also low light photos should be ok. I think the camera is good enough for me. Attached is an OOC shot and the post-processed version.
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With a little bit of post processing also low light photos should be ok. I think the camera is good enough for me. Attached is an OOC shot and the post-processed version.
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Here's the detail was missing~
It's considerably better than my Moto X Pure (aka Style). Much more so in decent light. Just a small bit better in lower light. For $299 (now less even) it's nothing to complain about for sure. If it was on a $650 flagship, I'd be a little disappointed but could still live with just fine if everything else was on point. For me, everything already is on point with the LP3 personally. A CM or AOSP would be just icing on the cake!
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Joms_US said:
Use Google camera app and it will be as good as Nexus 5X and better than iPhone 7
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I came from the 5x and usually don't think much of camera and audio haters so I don't pay much attention to reviews in these areas. But oh my this camera sucks! Which Google camera apk works with HDR with this phone, maybe that can help it? Play store does not offer Google Camera app for this phone, anyone recommend a link?
Camera seems much improved when using CM 13 or even the Google Camera app on the stock ROM. It still leaves a little to be desired but I like how quick and responsive it is.
Tried Google camera. It doesn't support HDR in Google camera. Pictures in low light are actually worse with the Google app
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I came from the 5x and usually don't think much of camera and audio haters so I don't pay much attention to reviews in these areas. But oh my this camera sucks! Which Google camera apk works with HDR with this phone, maybe that can help it? Play store does not offer Google Camera app for this phone, anyone recommend a link?
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Coming from N5x, I agree with you. With HDR, not only you get better DR but much better color rendition, even in low light.
With LePro3, Google Camera will not give you HDR but you do get good color rendition of Google Camera. Try the 2.7.010 version linked below. Other versions do not really work, at least on CM.
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/camera/

alternative view: superwide is super useless

Ok, perhaps an overstrong heading! But this is just my opinion - I actually don't find the superwide nearly as useful as I thought I would. First of all, the quality isn't great and secondly the distortion from it being such a small lens makes it interesting, but not particularly useful. It's especially bad if people are in the picture. I'm really interested to know where people have used it where it actually added some value.
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Ok, perhaps an overstrong heading! But this is just my opinion - I actually don't find the superwide nearly as useful as I thought I would. First of all, the quality isn't great and secondly the distortion from it being such a small lens makes it interesting, but not particularly useful. It's especially bad if people are in the picture. I'm really interested to know where people have used it where it actually added some value.
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I wouldn't agree for main camera superwide, i managed to took some nice pics that i couldn't capture otherwise, quality is not the point here, but what you can capture with it.
BUT! my real question is, what is the freaking point of 2 cameras on front?They make almost no difference between each other..
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I wouldn't agree for main camera superwide, i managed to took some nice pics that i couldn't capture otherwise, quality is not the point here, but what you can capture with it.
BUT! my real question is, what is the freaking point of 2 cameras on front?They make almost no difference between each other..
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You can't actually use the second camera on the front it is just solely for depth information to the other sensor
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oneandroidnut said:
You can't actually use the second camera on the front it is just solely for depth information to the other sensor
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Then what does the switch does?It changes between 2 what if not cameras, and angle changes just a bit.
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Then what does the switch does?It changes between 2 what if not cameras, and angle changes just a bit.
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It crops it. All from one sensor cover the one up and try it. Still will switch between cropped and not
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oneandroidnut said:
It crops it. All from one sensor cover the one up and try it. Still will switch between cropped and not
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I see now, still i think that button it pointless, it does nothing, its minimum crop, can someone explain me actually the point of it?
ivicask said:
I see now, still i think that button it pointless, it does nothing, its minimum crop, can someone explain me actually the point of it?
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Not a clue should have had a wide angle selfie lense like the pixel 3 xl
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ekerbuddyeker said:
Ok, perhaps an overstrong heading! But this is just my opinion - I actually don't find the superwide nearly as useful as I thought I would. First of all, the quality isn't great and secondly the distortion from it being such a small lens makes it interesting, but not particularly useful. It's especially bad if people are in the picture. I'm really interested to know where people have used it where it actually added some value.
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Extremely useful when travelling and trying to take pictures of architecture. Most cities in the world are very dense and objects are large, with limited space to position yourself for a photo. Your only choice here is to carry an ultra-wide lens. Most of my pictures from my recent trip to Vienna were done in ultra-wide. Stick it into DxO ViewPoint and correct the geometry and you have fantastic photos.
For me, Its a useful option in the right situations...
It's useless until you need it. I thought it was the useless but when in a tight space where you need to capture more area in your photo, the wide angle is extremely useful. Happens a lot to me when I take photos for site inspections (construction job).
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It's useless until you need it. I thought it was the useless but when in a tight space where you need to capture more area in your photo, the wide angle is extremely useful. Happens a lot to me when I take photos for site inspections (construction job).
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Or taking a photo for a group of people and the space is somewhat tight you cant go so much backwards
Completely useful since I remember in my LG G6 u can capture interesting perspectives.

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