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I am debating whether to get the G3 or M8 and was leaning towards the G3..but on looking at their respective XDA development pages, on first look there are only 2 custom ROM's being developed for the G3 whilst the M8 seems to have more and they are significantly more active.
This is swaying me more to the M8, though I would rather have the better camera/OIS/laser focus..saying that, it appears too that benchmarks of the G3 vs M8 unfortunately make the M8 a better performer too despite having a higher clocked SOC and more RAM with the EU version.
I was also told in Carphone Warehouse that basically people are buying on brands so the HTC is flying off shelves and nobody is interested in the G3. The guy said that even he wasn't aware of how matched a contender the G3 was to the M8 until a rep from LG came in and showed them. He was really pushing me the M8 also saying that they have had 0 in for repair whilst the whole Samsung range esp the S5/Note 3 are unreliable and plagued with issues such as the battery expanding so it does not fit anymore.
I imagine people are happy with their G3 here but do people recommend the M8 if what I am looking for is active development of more features through regular ROM developments? I currently still have a I-9000 and I have kept it as it does what I want and still has a very active ROM development community.
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I am debating whether to get the G3 or M8 and was leaning towards the G3..but on looking at their respective XDA development pages, on first look there are only 2 custom ROM's being developed for the G3 whilst the M8 seems to have more and they are significantly more active.
This is swaying me more to the M8, though I would rather have the better camera/OIS/laser focus..saying that, it appears too that benchmarks of the G3 vs M8 unfortunately make the M8 a better performer too despite having a higher clocked SOC and more RAM with the EU version.
I was also told in Carphone Warehouse that basically people are buying on brands so the HTC is flying off shelves and nobody is interested in the G3. The guy said that even he wasn't aware of how matched a contender the G3 was to the M8 until a rep from LG came in and showed them. He was really pushing me the M8 also saying that they have had 0 in for repair whilst the whole Samsung range esp the S5/Note 3 are unreliable and plagued with issues such as the battery expanding so it does not fit anymore.
I imagine people are happy with their G3 here but do people recommend the M8 if what I am looking for is active development of more features through regular ROM developments? I currently still have a I-9000 and I have kept it as it does what I want and still has a very active ROM development community.
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The reason there is no development is that the bootloader is still not unlockable, so there is no way to actually flash a ROM if one was made. This should change once it is, the G2 had plenty of good development and the G3 is outselling it quite a lot.
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The reason there is no development is that the bootloader is still not unlockable, so there is no way to actually flash a ROM if one was made. This should change once it is, the G2 had plenty of good development and the G3 is outselling it quite a lot.
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Ah, I didn't know that..well with my custom ROM today just randomly wiping all my apps and data, 1st time something like that has ever happened and when I was even out and needed my phone, unless the bootloader gets unlocked in the next few days thenI am just going to get the M8 as I don't have time to wait for that. The first thing I would do is root and flash a custom ROM on any new phone so to buy the G3 and be stuck with an inferior stock ROM missing many features compared to my current CM11.2 based I-9000 one will end up annoying me.
Can I ask, how long did it take after launch for the bootloader to be unlocked in the G2 and are LG power user friendly or are they like some companies have been in the past and purposely made it super difficult to unlock the bootloader?
G2 bootloader was never unlocked. They find an exploit to get roms through. The only version so far that has an unlocked bootloader is the T-Mobile version in the United States. Development will come, just going to take a bit longer than other phones. But to me is worth the wait, however I am one of the lucky ones who got the unlocked bootloader from T-Mobile.
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if you go look through the Bootloader Bounty thread in the AT&T subforum, you will see that @utoprime and a few others are pretty optimistic that the bootloader will be unlocked pretty quickly. not a "few days" quickly, but more like a few weeks. and once it is (or once there is a work around (i.e., loki) like with the G2), i would anticipate there being pretty stout development for the G3.
like you, my phone history has all been unlocked devices: OG, GNex, and N5. that being said, i got my G3 first day, and rooted within a couple hours. despite my long-standing flashing history, i haven't really missed custom roms on this thing - it's that nice. i'll have to see, but once L drops, i don't know that custom roms will be that big of a deal - Andy OS has come so far. the main reason i want an unlocked bootloader is to be able to have the OS versions more quickly.
IMO, you can't go wrong with either device. BUT, if you like the G3 better, and are basing your buying decision solely on an unlocked bootloader and a variety of custom roms, personally i would still go with the G3 - it will get there.
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if you go look through the Bootloader Bounty thread in the AT&T subforum, you will see that @utoprime and a few others are pretty optimistic that the bootloader will be unlocked pretty quickly. not a "few days" quickly, but more like a few weeks. and once it is (or once there is a work around (i.e., loki) like with the G2), i would anticipate there being pretty stout development for the G3.
like you, my phone history has all been unlocked devices: OG, GNex, and N5. that being said, i got my G3 first day, and rooted within a couple hours. despite my long-standing flashing history, i haven't really missed custom roms on this thing - it's that nice. i'll have to see, but once L drops, i don't know that custom roms will be that big of a deal - Andy OS has come so far. the main reason i want an unlocked bootloader is to be able to have the OS versions more quickly.
IMO, you can't go wrong with either device. BUT, if you like the G3 better, and are basing your buying decision solely on an unlocked bootloader and a variety of custom roms, personally i would still go with the G3 - it will get there.
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Thanks for ur reply...I just came across this which seems hopeful but obviously we know that these things are always faster through unofficial means. I guess I am looking at these phones as being able to last up to 5 years like my I9000 as I am not a conspicuous consumption kinda person and if something can still be updated/relevant and keep doing the job then I don't see the need to spend hundreds to replace it every year just to keep up with fashion.
A few things more.
After having a Super AMOLED screen for the past 5 yrs and being very happy with the vibrancy of the colours how does the G3 compare (and M8 too if you have used it)?
Is the G3 comfortable to use one handed and is there a tendancy/risk of it being able to drop out of your hand due to the size? This was another biggie for me as a colleague has a Note 3 which is 0.2" bigger and he complains that it's often awkward to put in pockets and handle. Tbh I have never been interested in a phablet nor something 1.5" bigger than my i9000 causing pocket fitting issues so if it was just a little smaller (~5.2") then I would have been sold on it. The M8 seemed in store to be just the right size and quite comfortable to hold especially with the weight, the G3 was just on the cusp of being too big and ok but noticeably lighter and I'm wondering if this would make it more likely to slip/drop. Obviously I would get a case for it but then that will increase it's size further too.
If you're wanting the phone to last 5 years I wouldn't go with a non replaceable battery like the M8's. The G3's battery is replaceable.
I have the D855 32GB and all I can say is I'm very satisfied even running on stock...
Had the N7 2013, it was awesome, but the G3 is just on a different level...
Once the bootloader is unlocked and custom roms are available, this will fly leaving the rest...
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Thanks for ur reply...I just came across this which seems hopeful but obviously we know that these things are always faster through unofficial means. I guess I am looking at these phones as being able to last up to 5 years like my I9000 as I am not a conspicuous consumption kinda person and if something can still be updated/relevant and keep doing the job then I don't see the need to spend hundreds to replace it every year just to keep up with fashion.
A few things more.
After having a Super AMOLED screen for the past 5 yrs and being very happy with the vibrancy of the colours how does the G3 compare (and M8 too if you have used it)?
Is the G3 comfortable to use one handed and is there a tendancy/risk of it being able to drop out of your hand due to the size? This was another biggie for me as a colleague has a Note 3 which is 0.2" bigger and he complains that it's often awkward to put in pockets and handle. Tbh I have never been interested in a phablet nor something 1.5" bigger than my i9000 causing pocket fitting issues so if it was just a little smaller (~5.2") then I would have been sold on it. The M8 seemed in store to be just the right size and quite comfortable to hold especially with the weight, the G3 was just on the cusp of being too big and ok but noticeably lighter and I'm wondering if this would make it more likely to slip/drop. Obviously I would get a case for it but then that will increase it's size further too.
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I switched from the M8 to the G3 (S3 > M7 > Note 3 > N5 > M8 > G3) size wise, the G3 is comfortable, easy to hold and relatively light.
Screen wise, you definitely notice the difference. Colours are more vibrant and bright on the G3 IMO, I don't miss my M8, not saying the M8 was a bad device it was actually a very very good device.
There isn't a lot of differences between flagship devices these days hardware is almost identical it's really cosmetic, I switched as I got bored of the M8 and I'm already bored of the G3.. Just waiting to see what else comes along before I maybe look at the OPO.
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I switched from the M8 to the G3 (S3 > M7 > Note 3 > N5 > M8 > G3) size wise, the G3 is comfortable, easy to hold and relatively light.
Screen wise, you definitely notice the difference. Colours are more vibrant and bright on the G3 IMO, I don't miss my M8, not saying the M8 was a bad device it was actually a very very good device.
There isn't a lot of differences between flagship devices these days hardware is almost identical it's really cosmetic, I switched as I got bored of the M8 and I'm already bored of the G3.. Just waiting to see what else comes along before I maybe look at the OPO.
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Lol a man very hard to please! I'm guessing you have more money than the average person as most would not be able to afford buying a new flagship every time they were bored of it!
I was thinking of the OPO but it appears inferior to the M8 and G3 from the reviews I have read of it except perhaps in price, but if you want to lose 32GB internal memory and gain an SD card slot then that may be worth it. Tbh, if you are fine with getting a grey import you can get any phone for about the same price as the OPO.
What holds me back from the Opo, besides not having an invite, is the lack of support through my carrier(T-mobile). If my G3 refuses to turn on one day, I can get one overnighted to me from them. If i have the Opo, and it does the same, I move looking at a much longer period of time.
I'm also not willing to pay for an invite. If i had one, then I'd probably buy one because I do miss the stock experience.
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I have the tmobile g3, and i heard the bootloaders were unlocked when u buy them..im rooted but i have no custom rom, so im not totally sure if its true or not, i believe i seen it on here somewhere..
Zachary droid said:
I have the tmobile g3, and i heard the bootloaders were unlocked when u buy them..im rooted but i have no custom rom, so im not totally sure if its true or not, i believe i seen it on here somewhere..
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T-Mobile has an unlocked Bootloader yes. Check out the T-Mo section here.
Does anyone know if the cat 6 f460 can install the same roms as the US versions or will it need separate development?
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T-Mobile has an unlocked Bootloader yes. Check out the T-Mo section here.
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So basically only a G3 that T-Mobile (US?) has branded and loaded with their own unlocked bootloader is able to take ROMs without any exploits at the moment. A stock G3 fresh from the LG factory does not and is not able to have an unlocked bootloader on it ATM?
I'm guessing then that means that it IS possible and LG can unlock the bootloader if they want, but for us lot, someone has to find out how to find an exploit in the blocked bootloader to load the required content from the T-Mobile firmware on to non T-Mobile devices?
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Does anyone know if the cat 6 f460 can install the same roms as the US versions or will it need separate development?
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Ah, I didn't realise there was an updated/premium G3 too. Is it any worth getting this one over the G3 as the specs look like they are far superior but I don't know how realistic it is that really affordable 4K TV's will be mainstream in even perhaps 2 yrs time to be more than just a marketing gimmick for the F460.
D0MINO said:
Thanks for ur reply...I just came across this which seems hopeful but obviously we know that these things are always faster through unofficial means. I guess I am looking at these phones as being able to last up to 5 years like my I9000 as I am not a conspicuous consumption kinda person and if something can still be updated/relevant and keep doing the job then I don't see the need to spend hundreds to replace it every year just to keep up with fashion.
A few things more.
After having a Super AMOLED screen for the past 5 yrs and being very happy with the vibrancy of the colours how does the G3 compare (and M8 too if you have used it)?
Is the G3 comfortable to use one handed and is there a tendancy/risk of it being able to drop out of your hand due to the size? This was another biggie for me as a colleague has a Note 3 which is 0.2" bigger and he complains that it's often awkward to put in pockets and handle. Tbh I have never been interested in a phablet nor something 1.5" bigger than my i9000 causing pocket fitting issues so if it was just a little smaller (~5.2") then I would have been sold on it. The M8 seemed in store to be just the right size and quite comfortable to hold especially with the weight, the G3 was just on the cusp of being too big and ok but noticeably lighter and I'm wondering if this would make it more likely to slip/drop. Obviously I would get a case for it but then that will increase it's size further too.
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with 3 gig RAM, an sdcard, and the 801, i think the G3 will be serviceable as a daily driver for a few years - i don't know about 5 years, given how fast tech changes, tho.
as for the screen, if you really like Super AMOLED, you might be initially disappointed in the G3. with AMOLED, some people call the colors "vibrant," others call it "over saturated." it all depends on personal preference. for me, the G3 colors are more "true," and the screen is outstanding. i found Super AMOLED (like the GS5) to be too saturated, and almost cartoonish. but, again, its a matter of preference. i think that 4k resolution is going to be the standard going forward, and you are going to see apps becoming optimized for that. so, in terms of relevance beyond a year or two, i think the G3 is ahead of the curve, so to speak, and that the M8 (as with just about any HTC device ever made) will become pseudo-obsolete/outdated in a year or so.
the size of the G3 is fine. with the lack of bezel, it is pretty easy to use one handed, and i'm never concerned with it slipping out of my hand (but, i do have large hands). it fits comfortably in my pocket, is easy to get out, and feels light and slim in the hand. you do have to do a little "hand shimmying" to get from the top of the screen to the bottom, but i don't find it troublesome at all. tbh, if the screen was just 0.2" smaller, it would be perfect for me. but all other things considered, that's a pretty minor gripe.
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So basically only a G3 that T-Mobile (US?) has branded and loaded with their own unlocked bootloader is able to take ROMs without any exploits at the moment. A stock G3 fresh from the LG factory does not and is not able to have an unlocked bootloader on it ATM?
I'm guessing then that means that it IS possible and LG can unlock the bootloader if they want, but for us lot, someone has to find out how to find an exploit in the blocked bootloader to load the required content from the T-Mobile firmware on to non T-Mobile devices?
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correct, TMo is the only variant with an unlocked bootloader, and it came from the factory that way. but, again, the devs are pretty confident that they are close to unlocking the bootloader for the other variants. this device has been getting a lot of attention, and sales have been pretty robust. i think the demand is there, and we WILL see custom roms for the G3.
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Ah, I didn't realise there was an updated/premium G3 too. Is it any worth getting this one over the G3 as the specs look like they are far superior but I don't know how realistic it is that really affordable 4K TV's will be mainstream in even perhaps 2 yrs time to be more than just a marketing gimmick for the F460.
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so far, the "premium" G3 has only been announced in Korea, and the ONLY difference is it has an 805 processor, instead of the 801. from the reading i have done, it appears that the ONLY reason LG put in the 805 was to gain access to the cat6 LTE bandwidth. if you are in a market that does not have cat6 (like in the States), the prevailing speculation is that the "premium" G3 won't even be made available by LG. if it is made available, it probably won't be until the end of the year or after the first of the year. a lot of people have been clamoring for and 805 version of the G3, because it supposedly has a faster and more efficient graphics processor. i really don't do any gaming on my device, so that's not a huge concern for me.
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with 3 gig RAM, an sdcard, and the 801, i think the G3 will be serviceable as a daily driver for a few years - i don't know about 5 years, given how fast tech changes, tho.
as for the screen, if you really like Super AMOLED, you might be initially disappointed in the G3. with AMOLED, some people call the colors "vibrant," others call it "over saturated." it all depends on personal preference. for me, the G3 colors are more "true," and the screen is outstanding. i found Super AMOLED (like the GS5) to be too saturated, and almost cartoonish. but, again, its a matter of preference. i think that 4k resolution is going to be the standard going forward, and you are going to see apps becoming optimized for that. so, in terms of relevance beyond a year or two, i think the G3 is ahead of the curve, so to speak, and that the M8 (as with just about any HTC device ever made) will become pseudo-obsolete/outdated in a year or so.
the size of the G3 is fine. with the lack of bezel, it is pretty easy to use one handed, and i'm never concerned with it slipping out of my hand (but, i do have large hands). it fits comfortably in my pocket, is easy to get out, and feels light and slim in the hand. you do have to do a little "hand shimmying" to get from the top of the screen to the bottom, but i don't find it troublesome at all. tbh, if the screen was just 0.2" smaller, it would be perfect for me. but all other things considered, that's a pretty minor gripe.
correct, TMo is the only variant with an unlocked bootloader, and it came from the factory that way. but, again, the devs are pretty confident that they are close to unlocking the bootloader for the other variants. this device has been getting a lot of attention, and sales have been pretty robust. i think the demand is there, and we WILL see custom roms for the G3.
so far, the "premium" G3 has only been announced in Korea, and the ONLY difference is it has an 805 processor, instead of the 801. from the reading i have done, it appears that the ONLY reason LG put in the 805 was to gain access to the cat6 LTE bandwidth. if you are in a market that does not have cat6 (like in the States), the prevailing speculation is that the "premium" G3 won't even be made available by LG. if it is made available, it probably won't be until the end of the year or after the first of the year. a lot of people have been clamoring for and 805 version of the G3, because it supposedly has a faster and more efficient graphics processor. i really don't do any gaming on my device, so that's not a huge concern for me.
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The LG Prime is being launched in Europe at the IFA next month.
http://mobile.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/...tylus-smartphones-pegged-for-ifa-2014-launch/
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The LG Prime is being launched in Europe at the IFA next month.
http://mobile.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/...tylus-smartphones-pegged-for-ifa-2014-launch/
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i did not know that (obviously). cool! maybe the States will actually see a G3 Prime...
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i did not know that (obviously). cool! maybe the States will actually see a G3 Prime...
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Yeah, I've read rumours it will be launching worldwide. Who knows.
Hi, so as the title says, if you could would you change your mind or stick with the 7T !
Based on only the 3 models listed which would you now choose ?
Stick with 7T
Go 7T Pro
Go 7 Pro
Edit: I'm currently a OnePlus 5 user and basically use my phone for a multitude of actions ranging from general browsing to gaming ( not really high demand games but for extended periods ) so mainly feel battery and overall smoothness is essentially my end game in a device but still like to capture them precious family moments in still and motion formats so a good camera is desired too. The one plus 5 for me is great and to be honest I don't need to upgrade ATM as I'm happy with everything... but I have the chance to upgrade as I'm giving the OnePlus to my son for his birthday and going to take this opportunity to get myself an upgrade ( no contract, device only ) with no real budget limit except justification on joint account bank balance lol. In reality I wouldn't be comfortable spending more than £800 and would want the upgrade to last at least another 3 years !!
I'm UK and I've looked at virtually everything recently that it's giving me a mental block at what to go for.
Examples:
OnePlus - love current but unsure which 7/8 version to upgrade to.
Samsung - Not a Samdung fan really
Xiaomi - Looks like some really great affordable options but don't understand all the global rom Vs global version stuff so don't want to risk getting burnt.
Huawei - Google issue on newer devices like the P40
Certain Oppo versions,
Along with Redmi,
Redmagic 5g,
Blackshark 3 pro all look fantastic but unsure on updates etc over the next few years with these !!
So on so on
I don't really like to mess with root these days so tend to stay stock.
( Thought I best put a bit of info into the post, I'm welcome to all replies and help in choosing my next device )
Thanks.
7t
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Thanks for your feedback. Would you consider the standard OnePlus 8 a needed upgrade at present ?
No
neither the op8 nor the 8pro have anything i would need. and the punchhole is not at all mine was a notch
i come from 3T (broken screen), considered a while for 7T, 7Pro & 8...
finally chosen 7T for flat screen, i hate curve edge (3T bad exp) also for the price of OP8 series seems they changed the high CP strategy (not favourable)
so far 7T's drawbacks are, no LED notification and TWRP not ready..... for TWRP i think it is a matter of time
for the notch i dont think reli matter since the screen is comparatively big
Slymobi said:
Hi, so as the title says, if you could would you change your mind or stick with the 7T !
Based on only the 3 models listed which would you now choose ?
Stick with 7T
Go 7T Pro
Go 7 Pro
Edit: I'm currently a OnePlus 5 user and basically use my phone for a multitude of actions ranging from general browsing to gaming ( not really high demand games but for extended periods ) so mainly feel battery and overall smoothness is essentially my end game in a device but still like to capture them precious family moments in still and motion formats so a good camera is desired too. The one plus 5 for me is great and to be honest I don't need to upgrade ATM as I'm happy with everything... but I have the chance to upgrade as I'm giving the OnePlus to my son for his birthday and going to take this opportunity to get myself an upgrade ( no contract, device only ) with no real budget limit except justification on joint account bank balance lol. In reality I wouldn't be comfortable spending more than £800 and would want the upgrade to last at least another 3 years !!
I'm UK and I've looked at virtually everything recently that it's giving me a mental block at what to go for.
Examples:
OnePlus - love current but unsure which 7/8 version to upgrade to.
Samsung - Not a Samdung fan really
Xiaomi - Looks like some really great affordable options but don't understand all the global rom Vs global version stuff so don't want to risk getting burnt.
Huawei - Google issue on newer devices like the P40
Certain Oppo versions,
Along with Redmi,
Redmagic 5g,
Blackshark 3 pro all look fantastic but unsure on updates etc over the next few years with these !!
So on so on
I don't really like to mess with root these days so tend to stay stock.
( Thought I best put a bit of info into the post, I'm welcome to all replies and help in choosing my next device )
Thanks.
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If u don't like root of stay with the 7t stock wisebits rock solid.me I'ma flashaholic if I could go back I would have grabbed the pixel it was cheaper and is farther along development wise at this point.as a x xiaomi owner globel versions are very good but had a issue with lte bands I had the a2 lite but had no band 12 for TMobile luckily I live in a big city so I was fine with band 2 and 4 but if I traveled and needed band 12 I'd be screwed
Go for the 7t, it's really good. You can hide the noth. I had the 7 pro and 7t. The resolution is for normal use without VR absolutely fine. I also struggle with the same question as you. Also the 7t a a cheaper price and awesome charging. Not to forget, Android 10 out of the box. So 1 more big update.
So after at least a week of solid researching and mind numbing change of thought !! I've decided to go with the 7t. I will receive the 7t tomorrow morning ? with next day delivery costs.
It's been a really hard decision but I'm happy with staying with OnePlus and the 7t is an upgrade on my existing op5 at least and I've managed to save some money in not being drawn into my max budget ( £800 - £900 ). I hope I've made the right choice in the 7t and hope will last me a few years like my op5 has and also that I don't regret not going op8 !!
My op5 is still in immaculate condition and performs just like day one so I hope my lad will be happy with his new ( old ) OnePlus 5.
Thanks for the input to those that replied and I may see you over in the 7t forums soon if my old flashaholicism returns lol.
Regards
Slymobi said:
So after at least a week of solid researching and mind numbing change of thought !! I've decided to go with the 7t. I will receive the 7t tomorrow morning ? with next day delivery costs.
It's been a really hard decision but I'm happy with staying with OnePlus and the 7t is an upgrade on my existing op5 at least and I've managed to save some money in not being drawn into my max budget ( £800 - £900 ). I hope I've made the right choice in the 7t and hope will last me a few years like my op5 has and also that I don't regret not going op8 !!
My op5 is still in immaculate condition and performs just like day one so I hope my lad will be happy with his new ( old ) OnePlus 5.
Thanks for the input to those that replied and I may see you over in the 7t forums soon if my old flashaholicism returns lol.
Regards
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Hi.. Can you please say if you have any of the screen issue that have been reported by some users. I am also planing to buy the 7T but Im not sure if its a good decision given the screen issues it has.
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Hi.. Can you please say if you have any of the screen issue that have been reported by some users. I am also planing to buy the 7T but Im not sure if its a good decision given the screen issues it has.
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I've had the device for 9 hours now and I've not noticed any issues with the screen but I'm not aware of the issues your asking about ? Can you elaborate on this !
Coming from the OP5 this phone is a massive upgrade and I'm really happy with the
camera ( the zoom and quality is great )
Warp charge is insane compared to opt
Everything is good ATM apart from maybe battery life is not as great as I imagined but i have been hitting some gaming on it with Bluetooth on, 90Hz, high display but with that said I repeat the warp charge greatness as I can just fill her back up when getting low.
After the short time I've had...... I'm HAPPY
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I've had the device for 9 hours now and I've not noticed any issues with the screen but I'm not aware of the issues your asking about ? Can you elaborate on this !
Coming from the OP5 this phone is a massive upgrade and I'm really happy with the
camera ( the zoom and quality is great )
Warp charge is insane compared to opt
Everything is good ATM apart from maybe battery life is not as great as I imagined but i have been hitting some gaming on it with Bluetooth on, 90Hz, high display but with that said I repeat the warp charge greatness as I can just fill her back up when getting low.
After the short time I've had...... I'm HAPPY
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I was refering to the green/pinkish tint once you lower the screen brightness.. using a dark theme.. plus users have reported having non-uniform screens.. frame drops/lag.. etc.. you can simply google oneplus 7t screen issues and you will see what Im talking about..
I just wanted to know if its really that widespread.. like every second unit having the same issue.. or is it just a few isolated cases..
anyway..I am really glad you're happy with it ??
Oh another thing on a personal opinion - I nearly went away from OnePlus as I kept reading how the camera was not up to standards etc but I've got to disagree and I find the camera to be amazing. Yes I'm comparing against the oneplus 5 but WOW this thing is amazing lol. I took a X10 zoom shot of moving subjects ( my children on scooters ) and the picture was better than I got on static close ups on OnePlus 5.
So..... It's all respective of what your coming from and what your standards are but I can't fault this phone after day 1.
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I was refering to the green/pinkish tint once you lower the screen brightness.. using a dark theme.. plus users have reported having non-uniform screens.. frame drops/lag.. etc.. you can simply google oneplus 7t screen issues and you will see what Im talking about..
I just wanted to know if its really that widespread.. like every second unit having the same issue.. or is it just a few isolated cases..
anyway..I am really glad you're happy with it ??
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I've had a little research and I can safely say I do NOT have this issue. My themes and screens are always dark along with low brightness ( unless gaming ). I've done the chrome incognito test and have no such issues.
When I got the phone it had a system update pending so I automatically performed the update and if this helps I've attached my info screenshot.
Hi!
I'm looking for a new phone, my intention is to eventually unlock the bootloader, root the device, flash TWRP and get strated with some ROMs.
Is Redmi Note 8 Pro a good choice considering my use case?
From what I've read it seems to be both the best of the budget Xiaomi phones and the most problematic one with a big potential to get bricked, is this still the case?
I'm also considering the regular Redmi Note 8 and Redmi 9s, both of those run Snapdragon processors and seem to be a little slower, but a safer bet if i want to mod the phone, do you think one of those would be better/safer for playing around with custom stuff?
Just my 2 cents - I've always been keen on rooting & trying various ROMs( been at it since getting Galaxy S2), however, I bought RN8P hoping to cautiously do the same, but only ended up rooting it but staying clear of ROMS for two reasons, MIUI has gotten much better since my last device (RN4) & the ROMS just aren't as stable or offer value addition as daily drivers.
However, th development has been decent considering this is an MTK device.
Lastly, I avoided RN8 for RN8P was a considerable better device in many aspects & I've been considering RN9S/P but the development has yet to pick up pace.
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I don't intend to jump right into custom mods too, but i will eventually do it when the updates stop and the phone starts showing it's age, a lighweight rom is a great way to get a year or two more out of a phone, and picking the 8 Pro that has the tendency to get bricked seems pretty dangerous to me, yet i know it's probably the best option performance wise.
The RN8/8t seems great, but for just a little bit more i can have the 8 pro or the 9s which seems to be better choices all around.
The 9s is very new, so it's no supprise that the dev scene is smaller so far but it seems o be that it has the potential to be bigger with the safer snapdragon. It also has that water resistant coating which is really temting to me, and again, because it's newer it'll probably be supported for longer.
I think buying the RN9 S/pro is better choice
Honestly i should buy RN9S but I mistake
Buying a new [used] phone and was looking at the S20 Ultra and OP9.
Found two decent prices for here in Aus: S20U @ $570AUD versus OP9 @ $440-500AUD.
I will likely keep the phone for three to four years, so curious about durability, build-quality, hardware, software/development. I know the OP9 is newer and faster (on paper), but how does it stand the test of time compared to Samsung who has been in the game or longer.
Thanks!
I had the OnePlus 9 for the wife and I currently have the 9 Pro for myself. She really wanted the Flip3 so T-mobile offered me $400 for it so all I had to do was put $170 down for it and that was it. They're also offering me $00 for my 9 Pro, but it's fully unlocked (sim/bl) and if I end up getting the Ultra, it would be the SD version and I would be stuck with a fully locked phone so I'd want to keep my 9 Pro to tinker with. Sorry if this doesn't help you at all, didn't know if you were looking for opinions specifically of what you're asking for, or if you wanted opinions on why someone would want it over the 9/Pro.
cheers. yeah just generally curious what people think. and sorry, its the 9 pro that I am looking at.
both mine would be unlocked. I've never owned a OnePLus device, but samsung is classic reliable..
Samsung has a better update policy, but fixed promised from the S21 series. Oneplus is currently experiencing difficulties in this area. Samsung guarantees updates for at least 3 years starting with the 21 models, if not more in the meantime.
I have a Oneplus 9 pro and just treated myself to a comparison with the Samsung S22 ultra. Except for disappointing improvements in the camera, I do not see any advantages, on the contrary; with root, your warranty is gone. So I'm sticking with Oneplus. Add the buds pro if you like listening to music; the sound is perfectly tuned to the phone and sounds worlds better than on other phones. The display of the 22 Ultra is on par, the speakers are worse, and the performance feels identical (Exynos for me). Keep in mind that the 20 Ultra is a bit older.
In terms of weight and form factor, I think the Oneplus is more durable and less vulnerable to drops.
But the update policy is still up in the air (because of ColorOS), but updates will certainly come.
Thanks for replying. I am definitely leaning towards OP9 Pro.
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Thanks for replying. I am definitely leaning towards OP9 Pro.
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From my nearly one year experience with the OnePlus 9 Pro and more with OnePlus itself (since the OnePlus 3, also went through the 7 Pro and the 8 Pro), the software update has gotten worse with time, especially with the OnePlus 9 Pro, which had a clearly bad first release of OxygenOS 12 (consider December 2021 was the worst month to get a OnePlus 9 Pro up to date).
As they are actively merging with OPPO (hardware and software), the first days were rough, but they are clearly improving with every updates and the C.44 is quite good so far (I even tried the full ColorOS 12 experience but came back to OxygenOS 12 because of throttling in games and a few other minor points). So if you're willing to trust OnePlus on their updates, I think you can have a quite decent phone.
On the hardware side, the charging system is clearly the best I've gone with (65W wired and 50W wireless, it's crazy fast). The screen is beautiful (it comes from Samsung factories, sooooooo... Let's say it won't be very different if you go for a recent Samsung phone). The partnership with Hasselblad is really bringing some improvements (even if it's software side) and that's the first phone that made me really enjoy taking pictures.
The supported communication bands are in line with pretty much all actual standards and had never to complain for any kind of connection (WiFi, Bluetooth, 2G/3G/4G/5G).
For me, it's a big recommendation, but if you had told me you hesitated with a S22 Ultra, I would have been a little less partial on it.
I like the design of S20 Ultra, but for some people could be bulky, big, heavy. For me design for S20 Ultra is Much Nicer than OnePlus 9 Pro. I like square phones. 9 Pro is absolutly Not.
Samsung = Bloatware. I don't know/care if you still can root it.
OnePlus 9 Pro you can root, debloat. It works very good. For me battery is great.
I have European phone & now i use ColorOS 12 stable global C.46.
If you have money, go for Samsung S22 Note, only wwith SnapDragon !
But if you don't want to throw money on a phone, OnePlus 9 Pro is great.
I hope none take this the wrong way, but I've had the 8 pro, then 9 pro coming from the pixel line, and it has been super sweet.
With Oppo taking control, I'm seriously concerned with them not releasing source code anymore in a timely manner. The reason I moved to this phone was a kernel dev moving(& me following), and now he has given up on the 9 pro , due to this issue. Thankfully currently, we have some really nice talent supporting our device.
I've always been on a custom ROM for the last seven+ years until the 8 pro and the 9 pro. With a few tweaks, OnePlus devs along with the awesome devs here on XDA had everything I used in the years past, and usually was more featured, and everything I needed.
Going forward, I suppose only custom ROMs will do the trick, but like previously mentioned, maybe the support for OnePlus 9 pro will improve from Oppo.
I'm really thankful for this community, and for their support with this device. I hope for the best going forward for OnePlus, Android, etc, but I find it hard to see me getting another OnePlus, but maybe I might change my mind, since I really like the idea of a device with the support for Gapps or microg, etc. I hope whatever you decide to do works out with no regrets, and I hope this could maybe be of use.
If root access wasn't a deciding factor for me, I would own an S20 Ultra right now instead of the 9 Pro. It ultimately came down to the fact that root on Samsung is effectively non-existent now, and root on OnePlus has always been easily achieved.
The S20 is smooth, pretty, innovative, and everything that most people would want in a high-end smartphone. It's also bloated, but I assume you can still somewhat debloat with adb. The OP9P is also a great phone, though maybe not as great as the early hype. However, I've always been happy with it, and I love that there's a great development community, even if it's a bit smaller than the 8Pro or 7 Pro. A lot are still holding out for the 10Pro.
That said, modding on OP9P on OOS12 is severely limited at present compared with OOS11 due to no sources (no custom kernels, etc.) and most of the UI being part of the theme so you can't change it via traditional methods. If this is the direction they're going long-term, this might be my last OP phone too. There are lots of great custom ROMs if you're into that, but personally I don't like having to wipe my data and start fresh to install custom ROMs, then spend weeks getting my phone back how I want it only to decide I'm not crazy about the ROM I chose (or it's not stable/a feature I need doesn't work) and have to do it all over again. I just find the whole process too tedious for a device I rely on every single day. I prefer a phone with a versatile, rootable, highly moddable stock firmware.
Hi all.
I'm thinking of getting a 9 pro and was wondering, would you buy it again if you had your current experience to help make your decision? I've found a few around $650, used. I'm not worried about insane camera quality. A good screen, solid performance, fast charging and being able to root and ROM it are what is drawing me in. I loved the 7 Pro I had but I've seen some say they don't think anything later has lived up to that and the quality has degraded. It nearly pushed me back to a 7 pro but I take it with a grain of salt, figured I'd ask here and see from some current users.
As for ROM's, /e/ apparently works. And Lineage. Does the color OS merge cause any new privacy concerns? I don't know a lot of how it has progressed, to be honest. I'm planning to ROM and de-google as much as I can.
Anyone who's used a PIxel 5a, might it be a better solution, cheaper?
Thanks for your input!
Honestly if I could go back, I wouldve bought a Galaxy s21 ultra. Android 12 is still so buggy for me and I'm not keen on OnePlus merging with oppo. I love OOS.
Maybe,. It still has been solid, like screen is beautiful, w/ refresh rate. It has the thirty minute 0-100 charge and forty minute wireless charge. It sounds good and looks good so maybe so.
One thing is the fast charging is 65 watts; which I liked the 35 watt on the 8 pro.
One of the drawbacks was the US unlocked version came with one sim slot, instead of two, like it should of been.
Also when the few updates were good , unlocked version usually only received the incremental version on Google server; but the last one, I just flashed in TWRP (which has been a beauty).
So all in all still a solid device with the microg and Gapps option.
If the Samsung can be unlocked, etc, and looking like it will be supported then maybe that might be the way. I've been looking at them the last few years and I really like that foldable phone that opens to a tablet.
The last one I personally owned was the S3 and that was the days. I remember it coming out and being like, "WOW". That was the CyanogenMod era for me on that S3.
Anyway I hope it works out in what you decide. One thing I think by the way is "how easy is it to recover, and which method? How easy to brick, etc?
Take care, and I hope this post is not too much, but I can relate (like I'm sure most of us here on XDA can), and thought I'd add my thoughts.
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Hi all.
I'm thinking of getting a 9 pro and was wondering, would you buy it again if you had your current experience to help make your decision? I've found a few around $650, used. I'm not worried about insane camera quality. A good screen, solid performance, fast charging and being able to root and ROM it are what is drawing me in. I loved the 7 Pro I had but I've seen some say they don't think anything later has lived up to that and the quality has degraded. It nearly pushed me back to a 7 pro but I take it with a grain of salt, figured I'd ask here and see from some current users.
As for ROM's, /e/ apparently works. And Lineage. Does the color OS merge cause any new privacy concerns? I don't know a lot of how it has progressed, to be honest. I'm planning to ROM and de-google as much as I can.
Anyone who's used a PIxel 5a, might it be a better solution, cheaper?
Thanks for your input!
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Yes. I would buy 9 Pro.
One of the best screen on the market. Hardware, same. Charging on Oneplus is awesome. When i buy my phone battery was 0. I charged with my phone Off in 27 minutes, 0-100 %. Than i buy wireless 50w, crazy fast too. I put my phone on the stand . Then i must have my eyes on the watch. It goes to 100% in no time, if i let it.
About ColorOS... Many people forget that Oppo Fiind 7 came out at the same time with OnePlus One (almost same phone). Oppo works on is own processor. Oppo made a foldable already.
Color OS works fine (on my European model phone). I'm glad that we don't have that Stupid cartoon that i see on Pixel 6 phones. Looks llike is made by a 3 years old kid.
Oxygen OS was Awesome, but unfortunately google f*cked up this great OS.
Camera on Oneplus 9 pro is good. I like xPan mode, especially.
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Honestly if I could go back, I wouldve bought a Galaxy s21 ultra. Android 12 is still so buggy for me and I'm not keen on OnePlus merging with oppo. I love OOS.
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exactly how I feel too.
Yes I would, I'd make sure I know the origin of the phone, I.e. Eu, USA TMobile, India, China. I would then find out which rom it has flashed. Then use these to compare which country you're using it in, to make sure there's no surprise. Also I'd stick with a11 or a12 on a rom you like. My spec's are in the screenshot and I'm in the UK.
I would buy the 9 Pro again, but I'm going to try the 10 Pro when Global model available!
Cheers
I would probably buy unlocked, but I would buy again. I would also have done a little more looking so I didn't end up with my phone stuck on India firmware now.
Thanks everyone, I appreciate the feedback. Still undecided for now.
Another question; would you go to/back to a 7t Pro McLaren? Looks like it's about a $250 difference. I loved my 7 Pro and I'm willing to do a battery change. Or is the 9 Pro just so ahead that it's worth it to you?
Oh, and for those who wouldn't buy a 9 pro, would you mind to elaborate a little more? I'm down to these two and am trying to decide which makes more sense if I'm going to ROM it anyway.
Thanks again everyone!
650 usd for a op 9 pro? I'll take it. IMO no phones are better in this price range. It's not the best phone but it is expected that it will perform the same if not better with those $1000+ flagship phones.
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Another question; would you go to/back to a 7t Pro McLaren? Looks like it's about a $250 difference. I loved my 7 Pro and I'm willing to do a battery change. Or is the 9 Pro just so ahead that it's worth it to you?
Oh, and for those who wouldn't buy a 9 pro, would you mind to elaborate a little more? I'm down to these two and am trying to decide which makes more sense if I'm going to ROM it anyway.
Thanks again everyone!
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7 pro was great ! Mine was blue. NO front camera in display ! Back then Oxygen OS was awesome. And everything was easy : root-unroot-twrp-MSM.
But the screen is Too Curved. And soon you will get no updates.
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I would buy the 9 Pro again, but I'm going to try the 10 Pro when Global model available!
Cheers
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Don't ! Wait a little more. I'm sure you can use/keep your 9 pro few moths more.
I wait for Ultra.
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Oh, and for those who wouldn't buy a 9 pro, would you mind to elaborate a little more? I'm down to these two and am trying to decide which makes more sense if I'm going to ROM it anyway.
Thanks again everyone!
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Latest OOS (buggy Android 12 ColorOS ) is really not for me.
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Don't ! Wait a little more. I'm sure you can use/keep your 9 pro few moths more.
I wait for Ultra.
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Alright, I'll try and wait for the Ultra
I've owned my 9 Pro for about 4 months now. I have very mixed feelings about it.
For me, the pluses:
Unlockable bootloader with good third-party ROM support.
Nice screen, decent camera.
Wireless charging
The minuses:
Buggy factory ROM's. The switchover to Android 12 and a ColorOS-based build was a disaster. ColorOS is just not in the same league as OxygenOS as far as polish or capabilities. It lost most of the nice touches that made OxygenOS good. And the new team is doing a mediocre job of staying on top of security patches. It is now the end of February, and my phone is still at January 1, 2022 security patch level.
No SD-card slot.
I think I'd still pick the OnePlus over a Google phone. Google has had extensive hardware issues, and their customer service is supremely awful.
And I'd pick it over Samsung. Samsung is actively hostile toward unlocked bootloaders and custom ROM's. They also have a lengthy history of battery problems - the Galaxy Note 8 was not an aberration, merely the most severe.
Motorola/Lenovo makes decent hardware, but are completely falling down on updates. My wife's One Action is only 15 months old, and is still running Android 10 at a Nov 1, 2021 patch level. Supposedly the premise of the whole "Android One" program was that it would make it easier for the OEM's to issue timely updates and upgrades. Doesn't seem to be working.
To sum it up: The OnePlus is not great, but in the US market, it's still slightly better than the alternatives.
I bought a 256gb/12gb in mint condition for $550 USD that should be here tomorrow. I almost gave up on the idea but then saw the price and figured I'd give it a shot.
I looked forward to trying it out! Now to decide which ROM. LOS, Derp, Nameless or Stag. It's a fun problem I've missed having.
Thanks for all of the input, it helped a lot actually.
Yes. definitely. I just sold 8T model and bought 9 Pro for a good price. I will stick with Android 11 as long as I can, because IMHO A12 is childish and awful looking (especially these big fonts).
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around $650, used
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yes, i bought the same way, for similar price, it's worth it. you save money and there are no performance differences or use signs.
just make sure the seller is reputable and you will be fine, for me warranties failed me more than resellers. pro phones usually cost too much and aren't worth the cash unless you find sucha discount from resellers, which phones are rarely used and justa s good as factory. i always choose a physical seller so if there was an issue, have them located, AliExpress is not trustworthy.
about the phone, its very good. the main problem is the default ROM which isnt good at all. on the ohter hand, its easier to flash a custom ROM on OnePlus than almost any brand out there, and this will fix all your bugs, double battery time, half internet data consumption, refresh rate and overall performance. totally recommended
EDIT: i see you bought it for just 550$, which is even better. at that price is definitely even more worth it.