LM-G820UM on AT&T - Android 10 Firmware - LG G8 Questions & Answers

I recently purchased a LG G8 (LM-G820UM) from China. It is an AT&T branded phone, but works perfectly with my current UK SIM. It is running Android 9 (Software Version: G820UM10m), but when I try to update to Android 10 it says, "Current software is up to date."
I am used to updating the firmware on Samsung tablets and didn't realise the firmware would be tied to AT&T, so when I tried to install the firmware from another carrier using LGUP, I was surprised to find it just wouldn't work and always gave up before it hit 10%. (I tried using the LG Flash Tool, but couldn't get it to work on my Windows 10 PC.)
Reading through the forum, I appreciate buying a pre-paid AT&T SIM might - only might - work, but I'd much prefer to source an AT&T Android 10 image or else use software that will let me install an Android 10 image from another carrier.
Given that an AT&T Android 10 firmware does exist, I'm surprised it is not available to download from somewhere. Or that I can't just install a non-AT&T firmware.
Does anyone know of any further avenues I might be able to explore?

pfhastie said:
I recently purchased a LG G8 (LM-G820UM) from China. It is an AT&T branded phone, but works perfectly with my current UK SIM. It is running Android 9 (Software Version: G820UM10m), but when I try to update to Android 10 it says, "Current software is up to date."
I am used to updating the firmware on Samsung tablets and didn't realise the firmware would be tied to AT&T, so when I tried to install the firmware from another carrier using LGUP, I was surprised to find it just wouldn't work and always gave up before it hit 10%. (I tried using the LG Flash Tool, but couldn't get it to work on my Windows 10 PC.)
Reading through the forum, I appreciate buying a pre-paid AT&T SIM might - only might - work, but I'd much prefer to source an AT&T Android 10 image or else use software that will let me install an Android 10 image from another carrier.
Given that an AT&T Android 10 firmware does exist, I'm surprised it is not available to download from somewhere. Or that I can't just install a non-AT&T firmware.
Does anyone know of any further avenues I might be able to explore?
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I saw on here if you remove your Sim card, then factory reset and don't connect to anything including wifi, so skip everything to get to the home screen. Then connect to WiFi and check for updates it works. I did it and boom, I had to go through about 5 updates, but it all worked. Not sure if it will work outside of the US, but it's worth a shot.

That sounds interesting. I'll give it a go and let you know. I am in the UK, but perhaps a US VPN might do the trick if it doesn't work for me.

pfhastie said:
That sounds interesting. I'll give it a go and let you know. I am in the UK, but perhaps a US VPN might do the trick if it doesn't work for me.
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Good luck, it seems there some issue when it has a connection and it looks for updates during the setup and it breaks updates afterwards. So this is a workaround. I did all the updates consecutively, then rebooted and inserted my sim.

Gave it a good go. Full reset, skipped the intro pages, connected WiFi, but Software Update said I was up to date. Installed ThunderVPN (for apps & browsers), set it to USA and tried again, but same story. Then tried the whole thing again from scratch this time making sure I was on a US VPN prior to initiating the Software Update, but it was still the same ("Current software is up to date").
It is so disappointing not being able to bring this otherwise near-perfect phone up to the latest Android version, but I'm too short of cash to spend £10 on a SIM that only has a small chance of working in the UK. I'll just get on with my life and check back every now and then to see if one of the resident geniuses has come up with a fix.

pfhastie said:
Gave it a good go. Full reset, skipped the intro pages, connected WiFi, but Software Update said I was up to date. Installed ThunderVPN (for apps & browsers), set it to USA and tried again, but same story. Then tried the whole thing again from scratch this time making sure I was on a US VPN prior to initiating the Software Update, but it was still the same ("Current software is up to date").
It is so disappointing not being able to bring this otherwise near-perfect phone up to the latest Android version, but I'm too short of cash to spend £10 on a SIM that only has a small chance of working in the UK. I'll just get on with my life and check back every now and then to see if one of the resident geniuses has come up with a fix.
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Did you ever got the update to Android 10 and if yes, how?

hugoprh said:
Did you ever got the update to Android 10 and if yes, how?
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No, I never did. Planning on checking back every few months or so to see if there is firmware available, but I rather doubt there will as AT&T seem to have the phone tied down pretty well. On the plus side, coming from an Xperia Z5, Android 9 is excellent, especially battery life, and although Android 10 adds a desktop mode, I've heard of some people having problems, so I'm not worried I'm missing all that much. So many tech issues, so little time.

update lg g8 ATT
pfhastie said:
No, I never did. Planning on checking back every few months or so to see if there is firmware available, but I rather doubt there will as AT&T seem to have the phone tied down pretty well. On the plus side, coming from an Xperia Z5, Android 9 is excellent, especially battery life, and although Android 10 adds a desktop mode, I've heard of some people having problems, so I'm not worried I'm missing all that much. So many tech issues, so little time.
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133/5000
You could find a solution, I have the same problem and I don't know how to update, I don't know if it would work if I bought the sim card

Likewise, got a deal on eBay and starting to feel I should've found out about the AT&T update troubles before purchasing smh

Did anyone ever figure this out? I'm in the same boat

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Did anyone ever figure this out? I'm in the same boat
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I'd suggest looking in the 'guides' forum and following the 'how to cross flash' guide. Essentially, if you're using an at&t rom outside the us, then it's almost certain you're missing a few of the bands needed for you to have full coverage. It might be working, but there are probably some bands you're not getting.
So, the software / rom for your region is always the better one. If you successfully cross flash to that rom, you'll be better off.

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confused... t-mobile firmware stock OTA???

So I just purchased a new pixel 2 XL, an I'm getting ready to update my phone to the latest 8.1 OTA firmware from Google developer section (pie looks to have too many problems that are unacceptable to me), and I'm seeing T-Mobile firmware. I am on T-Mobile in the US, but I'm wondering if this is firmware for European market or something weird.
Should I use the T-Mobile firmware, or the non-specified OTA?
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So I just purchased a new pixel 2 XL, an I'm getting ready to update my phone to the latest 8.1 OTA firmware from Google developer section (pie looks to have too many problems that are unacceptable to me), and I'm seeing T-Mobile firmware. I am on T-Mobile in the US, but I'm wondering if this is firmware for European market or something weird.
Should I use the T-Mobile firmware, or the non-specified OTA?
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Go into settings/system/about phone. Look at the build number at the bottom. Choose the firmware that correspond with that number.
Eg: OPM2.
Chance Ill said:
Go into settings/system/about phone. Look at the build number at the bottom. Choose the firmware that correspond with that number.
Eg: OPM2.
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Thank you for answering, unfortunately the only update that corresponds with OPD1 for my device is the firmware I am currently on. There are also multiple firmwares with the same date for other similar numbers (there is an OPD1 for Rogers, as well as one for Telstra and another with no signifier and so on). I'm not seeing anything that really correlates to my device in particular. Not for updates anyways. The build numbers have changed.
In my mind it is only logical that they have Google images and Verizon images as they never released model that was carrier specific outside of those two.
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Thank you for answering, unfortunately the only update that corresponds with OPD1 for my device is the firmware I am currently on. There are also multiple firmwares with the same date for other similar numbers (there is an OPD1 for Rogers, as well as one for Telstra and another with no signifier and so on). I'm not seeing anything that really correlates to my device in particular. Not for updates anyways. The build numbers have changed.
In my mind it is only logical that they have Google images and Verizon images as they never released model that was carrier specific outside of those two.
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What model do you have? Verizon, Telstra, Rogers, etc
Chance Ill said:
What model do you have? Verizon, Telstra, Rogers, etc
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I have an unlocked Google edition 2xl running on t-mobile network.
When did they ever make a Rogers or T-Mobile version?
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I have an unlocked Google edition 2xl running on t-mobile network.
When did they ever make a Rogers or T-Mobile version?
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Some carriers like Verizon sell (not make) the Pixel thus the .img files correlates with that network for compatibility. I also use my device on T-Mobile US but us the OPM2 firmware because TMobile firmware (OPM4) caused modem issues
Chance Ill said:
Some carriers like Verizon sell (not make) the Pixel thus the .img files correlates with that network for compatibility. I also use my device on T-Mobile US but us the OPM2 firmware because TMobile firmware (OPM4) caused modem issues
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I really appreciate your help. I am on stock firmware and have really good connectivity, so I think I'll do what you have done and stick to similar firmware.
I have one last question. I'm about to sideloaded this, the instructions say to make sure there are no pending updates before proceeding. I have pending pie update which I have not downloaded, is this going to cause issues? I can't see why it would. I guess at worst it will reject my sideloaded at worst if it was expecting something else?
Soured Lie said:
I really appreciate your help. I am on stock firmware and have really good connectivity, so I think I'll do what you have done and stick to similar firmware.
I have one last question. I'm about to sideloaded this, the instructions say to make sure there are no pending updates before proceeding. I have pending pie update which I have not downloaded, is this going to cause issues? I can't see why it would. I guess at worst it will reject my sideloaded at worst if it was expecting something else?
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As long as you haven't downloaded the ota, you should be fine.
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As long as you haven't downloaded the ota, you should be fine.
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Already updated. Everything is smooth so far. Thank you for taking the time to help. I used to make ROMs when ICS was out, but everything has changed. Partition scheming and the whole 9. I'm a newbie all over again. I forgot how much I enjoyed Android. Very liberating after being on iOS for so long. Anyhow, have a good day.
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Already updated. Everything is smooth so far. Thank you for taking the time to help. I used to make ROMs when ICS was out, but everything has changed. Partition scheming and the whole 9. I'm a newbie all over again. I forgot how much I enjoyed Android. Very liberating after being on iOS for so long. Anyhow, have a good day.
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Lol. Yeah, much has changed since the good ole days. Welcome home! ?
Can some one confirm what OTA should I download for T-Mobile US on Pixel XL 2 for 9.0 ? Thank you
The one NOT for Telstra.
I'm hoping they release an update for TMobile. I'm having serious signal issues since moving to Pie... Once the signal drops a bit I immediately drop to 3G or even H+... Never had that issue with the TMobile release for Oreo.

anyone looking into the at&t and T-Mobile variations of the TAB S4 yet?

Just a quick question, but i have yet to see any discussion on rooting or roming and of the gsm versions of the tablet, Verizon has had the tablet the longest, but they are a no go with bootloader unlocks so its probably pointless, but i have some small amount of hope for TMobile and and a lesser amount for at&t version. thanks for answering, i bought the tablet anyways because it is literally the last good Android tablet left, root or no root so ill make it work either way, and themes will fix most of my issues anyhow
jaykoerner said:
Just a quick question, but i have yet to see any discussion on rooting or roming and of the gsm versions of the tablet, Verizon has had the tablet the longest, but they are a no go with bootloader unlocks so its probably pointless, but i have some small amount of hope for TMobile and and a lesser amount for at&t version. thanks for answering, i bought the tablet anyways because it is literally the last good Android tablet left, root or no root so ill make it work either way, and themes will fix most of my issues anyhow
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I had the T-Mobile and Verizon variants of this tablet and neither has "OEM Unlock" for the bootloader so rooting is not possible right now and most likely will require an exploit to be found to allow this. The community is small with these tablets from what I have seen so far.
Also, neither had the latest version of Firmware so Linux on DeX does not work on them yet. This could change any day when an update is rolled out but you will need to wait on the carrier to roll that out.
That said it is a Great Tablet!
fine to know i guess, all i need is a normal Android tab, might mess with the dex stuff but not why i getting it, i would only have rooted it when Samsung gave up on the tablet anyhow, as they always seem to do with the tablets in my experience
I bought the Verizon model not realizing it couldn't be rooted. I returned it.
Another big reason not to buy a carrier branded tablet is that it will be throttled data if using a voice line on TMobile.
However if you buy the Korean model, you can root, use your voice sim for full data speed voice and text apps, and get 6GB of ram.
This is the one I got shipped to the US. No issues whatsoever : https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...-LTE-Unlocked-4K-Record-SM-T835-/253816928507
Did you have to pay any customs/duty fees? Thx.
graysooner said:
Did you have to pay any customs/duty fees? Thx.
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Nope, no fees. The item description warned of that but I didn't pay anything outside of eBay
I'm very happy and would do it again
philow said:
I had the T-Mobile and Verizon variants of this tablet and neither has "OEM Unlock" for the bootloader so rooting is not possible right now and most likely will require an exploit to be found to allow this. The community is small with these tablets from what I have seen so far.
Also, neither had the latest version of Firmware so Linux on DeX does not work on them yet. This could change any day when an update is rolled out but you will need to wait on the carrier to roll that out.
That said it is a Great Tablet!
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it should work on arj3 correct? i am going to try tonight.. theres a sprint arj3 firmware floating around the internet.. maybe ill upload but not many users on here..
and yes, the usa carrier variants can b cross flashed.. ive flashed sprint firmware onto my vzw tablet no problem
elliwigy said:
it should work on arj3 correct? i am going to try tonight.. theres a sprint arj3 firmware floating around the internet.. maybe ill upload but not many users on here..
and yes, the usa carrier variants can b cross flashed.. ive flashed sprint firmware onto my vzw tablet no problem
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The T-Mobile build was ARJ3 but it was the September Security Patch and a U1 bootoader. Linux on DeX looks like it needs at least the October Security Patch. Good Luck!

AT&T version Unlocked-No Updates

As the headline states, I bought a Fold on launch day here in the U.S. My only option was the AT&T version as best buy was allocated only 6 units for the entire state on launch date and they were all AT&T models. Well, I am a T-Mobile user so I got the phone unlocked by a third party. Cost me $55 and had to hook it up to my PC but the phone was unlocked in less than three minutes. Phone is awesome in every aspect and although I still have bloatware and the AT&T logo on startup, the phone is amazing.
Problem: I see articles and postings about updates to the phone. Security patches, firmware updates that happened in October and now November yet my phone get none of them. Did some research and read a lot of back and forth over whether it was Samsung or AT&T or T-Mobile as to who would provide updates. Well, T-mobile doesn't carry the phone, AT&T will not update an unlocked phone of theirs and Samsung smart switch also does not work with AT&T branded, unlocked phones.
So here I sit with August 2019 security software and old firmware. with no way to get these updates. It's been ages since I rooted (or Jailbroke) a phone but it seems like this might be my only option unless you guys can suggest a way for me to get these updates. I would prefer to find a simple easy way to get this done over rooting but I don't even know if there is such a thing.
Any help or insight appreciated, thanks in advance for your time and efforts.
AtlanticFalcon said:
As the headline states, I bought a Fold on launch day here in the U.S. My only option was the AT&T version as best buy was allocated only 6 units for the entire state on launch date and they were all AT&T models. Well, I am a T-Mobile user so I got the phone unlocked by a third party. Cost me $55 and had to hook it up to my PC but the phone was unlocked in less than three minutes. Phone is awesome in every aspect and although I still have bloatware and the AT&T logo on startup, the phone is amazing.
Problem: I see articles and postings about updates to the phone. Security patches, firmware updates that happened in October and now November yet my phone get none of them. Did some research and read a lot of back and forth over whether it was Samsung or AT&T or T-Mobile as to who would provide updates. Well, T-mobile doesn't carry the phone, AT&T will not update an unlocked phone of theirs and Samsung smart switch also does not work with AT&T branded, unlocked phones.
So here I sit with August 2019 security software and old firmware. with no way to get these updates. It's been ages since I rooted (or Jailbroke) a phone but it seems like this might be my only option unless you guys can suggest a way for me to get these updates. I would prefer to find a simple easy way to get this done over rooting but I don't even know if there is such a thing.
Any help or insight appreciated, thanks in advance for your time and efforts.
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Change the s/w from AT&T ("U") to unlocked ("U1"). There's a thread in this forum with the files you need to download and instructions elsewhere on XDA. I changed my AT&T-branded Fold from U to U1 the day I set it up and have received two updates directly from Samsung. I'm currently on SK1 with the November security update. Leaving the phone running AT&T s/w prevents you from running call and messaging continuity and Hiya for caller ID and spam protection which are both pretty cool.
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Change the s/w from AT&T ("U") to unlocked ("U1"). There's a thread in this forum with the files you need to download and instructions elsewhere on XDA. I changed my AT&T-branded Fold from U to U1 the day I set it up and have received two updates directly from Samsung. I'm currently on SK1 with the November security update. Leaving the phone running AT&T s/w prevents you from running call and messaging continuity and Hiya for caller ID and spam protection which are both pretty cool.
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Thanks very much for the insight. I gave it a try and obviously didn't do something right but at least I know the solution. Now I just have to put all the pieces together. Thanks very much!
BarryH_GEG said:
Change the s/w from AT&T ("U") to unlocked ("U1"). There's a thread in this forum with the files you need to download and instructions elsewhere on XDA. I changed my AT&T-branded Fold from U to U1 the day I set it up and have received two updates directly from Samsung. I'm currently on SK1 with the November security update. Leaving the phone running AT&T s/w prevents you from running call and messaging continuity and Hiya for caller ID and spam protection which are both pretty cool.
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Did you do ASHA build of U1? I went with that and it says my phone is up to date...
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Did you do ASHA build of U1? I went with that and it says my phone is up to date...
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I downloaded U1 from this thread in this forum.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-fold/how-to/f900u-f900u1-firmware-links-t3922870
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I downloaded U1 from this thread in this forum.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-fold/how-to/f900u-f900u1-firmware-links-t3922870
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Thanks neighbor I manually updated to the latest. Hopefully I will get the next updates normally.
I successfully flashed U1 ASHA......no updates as of yet. Says I'm up to date but security patch is still August. Fingers crossed I catch the next one.
Do guys know if I do the flash to U1 unlocked. Does VZW wifi calling/texting work?
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Ok, I read every page of this very long thread and am more confused than when I looked at the initial page. It has been several years since I have used odin to flash a phone. Would someone be kind enough to put a link to the latest U1 firmware and Odin download so I can get off to the right start?
I have AT&T Fold unlocked on the original firmware as I never received any OTA updates. Can I go straight to the latest one or do I need to do it in steps?
Much appreciated!
Edit: Just realized this was not posted on the long thread I was referring to, but still valid questions. There was another thread that was 14 pages long which I have been posting on as well.
I am having trouble getting the flash to work. Any assistance would be appreciated.
EmilyJLV said:
Ok, I read every page of this very long thread and am more confused than when I looked at the initial page. It has been several years since I have used odin to flash a phone. Would someone be kind enough to put a link to the latest U1 firmware and Odin download so I can get off to the right start?
I have AT&T Fold unlocked on the original firmware as I never received any OTA updates. Can I go straight to the latest one or do I need to do it in steps?
Much appreciated!
Edit: Just realized this was not posted on the long thread I was referring to, but still valid questions. There was another thread that was 14 pages long which I have been posting on as well.
I am having trouble getting the flash to work. Any assistance would be appreciated.
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i can help you. like you, reading 20 pages is crazy and it is for a pro. not like us. I am lucky to flash my ATT yesterday.
still available to help?
Chuotchi said:
i can help you. like you, reading 20 pages is crazy and it is for a pro. not like us. I am lucky to flash my ATT yesterday.
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still available to give some help? im having the exact same issue. if i could be walked through this it would be amazing as i havent flashed anything onto a phone since the droid bionic days!!!

Looking To Buy This Phone...Need Advice...

I am looking to get this phone and needed some advice. I haven't bought a cellular branded phone for a long while. I usually go with the USA Factory unlocked version. On this phone is the cellular named stamped on the back of the phone? I know the model for the USA Unlocked version is G820QM (with a 7 at the end at times) but it is honestly harder to find. What does everyone recommend on this phone in regards to getting the cellular branded one or should I keep trying to find the USA Unlocked version? What about bloatware with the different cellular branded ones? How is that? Can you get rid of the bloatware? I also like what I call the LG Branded ones as they get the updates faster do they not? Please help me. I am looking for a phone and this one stuck out at me unless someone suggests a different phone with similar specs to this one? Thanks so much! :good:
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I am looking to get this phone and needed some advice. I haven't bought a cellular branded phone for a long while. I usually go with the USA Factory unlocked version. On this phone is the cellular named stamped on the back of the phone? I know the model for the USA Unlocked version is G820QM (with a 7 at the end at times) but it is honestly harder to find. What does everyone recommend on this phone in regards to getting the cellular branded one or should I keep trying to find the USA Unlocked version? What about bloatware with the different cellular branded ones? How is that? Can you get rid of the bloatware? I also like what I call the LG Branded ones as they get the updates faster do they not? Please help me. I am looking for a phone and this one stuck out at me unless someone suggests a different phone with similar specs to this one? Thanks so much! :good:
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Unsure where you're from, but stay away from the AT&T unlocked model (my model G820UM), I'm from the UK and ordered one, big mistake, AT&T does not send any update to their phones if they are not using an AT&T SIM card in the US, some users have been successful in updating they're OS, by just using a AT&T SIM card outside of the US, some haven't and I haven't tried it, because I don't want to waste more money on a SIM card when the results are not 100% guaranteed.
There is no way of cross flashing a different ROM, so you will be stuck without updates, until someone finds a way of cross flashing a ROM from an unlocked model. I'm checking this forum regularly hoping some has found a solution, but nothing so far
If you are in the US and on AT&T then it will fine, bloatware (which is a lot) can be removed/disabled easily
Honestly, for the price I paid (£280), I think the Xiaomi Mi9 would have been a better option, similar specs, updates every 2 months and you're able to unlock bootloader, not the best process to unlock the bootloader, but still possible (just need to wait for permission from Xiaomi which could take a few weeks), you'll be missing out on the best headphone jack, better cameras (not by much) and better battery life, for a similar price I think this is the best deal for snapdragon 855 phone.
If you don't mind paying a bit more and want the same features as the G8, go for the Samsung S10.
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Unsure where you're from, but stay away from the AT&T unlocked model (my model G820UM), I'm from the UK and ordered one, big mistake, AT&T does not send any update to their phones if they are not using an AT&T SIM card in the US, some users have been successful in updating they're OS, by just using a AT&T SIM card outside of the US, some haven't and I haven't tried it, because I don't want to waste more money on a SIM card when the results are not 100% guaranteed.
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Have you tried updating after taking out the SIM card?
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Have you tried updating after taking out the SIM card?
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Yep no luck, I've sold the phone, I was wasting too much time trying to find a solution, so just sold it and claimed my sanity back xD
Going back to the trusty Xperia 5, timely updates and great software and they are going for around £260 so easily recommended.
That's too bad, AT&T must be interfering, because I just purchased an unlocked G8 in Canada, and it updated to 10 over WiFi, before I inserted a SIM from my carrier (Bell Mobility). Phone was not on Bell originally.
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That's too bad, AT&T must be interfering, because I just purchased an unlocked G8 in Canada, and it updated to 10 over WiFi, before I inserted a SIM from my carrier (Bell Mobility). Phone was not on Bell originally.
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Yep, this a AT&T "feature", want updates? Buy at AT&T SIM card and use it in the US, guess they don't want anyone outside the US to use their products, unsure why, but it is what it is...
hugoprh said:
Unsure where you're from, but stay away from the AT&T unlocked model (my model G820UM), I'm from the UK and ordered one, big mistake, AT&T does not send any update to their phones if they are not using an AT&T SIM card in the US, some users have been successful in updating they're OS, by just using a AT&T SIM card outside of the US, some haven't and I haven't tried it, because I don't want to waste more money on a SIM card when the results are not 100% guaranteed.
There is no way of cross flashing a different ROM, so you will be stuck without updates, until someone finds a way of cross flashing a ROM from an unlocked model. I'm checking this forum regularly hoping some has found a solution, but nothing so far
If you are in the US and on AT&T then it will fine, bloatware (which is a lot) can be removed/disabled easily
Honestly, for the price I paid (£280), I think the Xiaomi Mi9 would have been a better option, similar specs, updates every 2 months and you're able to unlock bootloader, not the best process to unlock the bootloader, but still possible (just need to wait for permission from Xiaomi which could take a few weeks), you'll be missing out on the best headphone jack, better cameras (not by much) and better battery life, for a similar price I think this is the best deal for snapdragon 855 phone.
If you don't mind paying a bit more and want the same features as the G8, go for the Samsung S10.
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Is 10 really that big a deal from 9? I have 9 on my phone i could care less if it gets 10 and I am pretty sure it wont , lol
I feel like if we have temp root then it's only a matter of time before we get TWRP and roms. I just picked up an AT&T model for $178. Not sure if it's unlocked, but fairly easy through AT&T. Just worried if we have an exploit, updating to 10 might invalidate it.
I come from PS3/xbox 360 hacking, haha.

All U.S. Note10+ variants including the factory unlocked exactly the same hardware?

Are all U.S. Note 10+ phones, regardless of carrier or variant exactly the same phone/hardware and the firmware determines the difference? Correct? If I flash an unlocked Verizon Note10+ with UI XAA firmware, will I get the all of the bands that were missing with the Verizon firmware? Thanks.
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Are all U.S. Note 10+ phones, regardless of carrier or variant exactly the same phone/hardware and the firmware determines the difference? Correct? If I flash an unlocked Verizon Note10+ with UI XAA firmware, will I get the all of the bands that were missing with the Verizon firmware? Thanks.
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AFAIK the hardware is the same ... as long as it's also SM-N976x.
Usually the branded US versions have unlocked bootloader. So flashing another firmware manually may not work.
wgraz said:
Are all U.S. Note 10+ phones, regardless of carrier or variant exactly the same phone/hardware and the firmware determines the difference? Correct? If I flash an unlocked Verizon Note10+ with UI XAA firmware, will I get the all of the bands that were missing with the Verizon firmware? Thanks.
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I just learned over the past 2 days that an unlocked phone is different from a carrier locked phone. I am on the hunt to find how I can unlock my Verizon Note 10+. I have been consumed with spoof calls and telemarketers as of late. So bad I want to smash my phone. My number is listed on the National Do Not Call list. It has been for 20 years. I've had the same number for 20 years. That's why I don't want to change it. Why should I have to? This leads me to how I know about the difference in phones. I have been on a mission to locate a spam call blocker for my phone. One that genuinely works. That's when I learned of the Samsung Smart Call app. You know, the one Samsung installs on all their smart phones since the S7 in their war agains spam calling and ID protection. Don't know anything about it? Well, of course you don't!! That's because all US cell phone providers remove the app to force consumers to PURCHASE that's right SPEND MONEY on a service that Samsung built into your phone for FREE. So, NO THE UNLOCKED VERSION OF A PHONE IS NOT THE SAME AS A LOCKED VERSION. Please never tell someone that. An unlocked version also does not come with all the carrier bloatware that the locked version does. If you flash your unlocked phone, flash it with the firmware that's on it. That's my suggestion. Otherwise, you may regret it.
I take a personal interest in anyone who mucks with me on my phone. I go nuts with them.
Every now and then I get one fired, a bonus.
I generally have very little trouble... enjoy the morons fool enough to contact you
When it was once in a while, no big deal. When it became every day, day after day. Some times twice a day during work? Now I have to turn off my ringer. My parents are both elderly and not in the best of health. I've already missed 2 calls. I finally got pissed and decided to answer one of those spoof calls to tell them where to go. When it's a recording of a man's voice physically threatening me to return the call, you better believe I'm in rare form now. I'm studying cyber intelligence. I want these SOBs with every fiber of my being. It makes my blood boil every time I thing of that call and every person that might receive one like it. That sh$%*t has to stop.
That's another reason why I want to unlock my Note 10+ and install the Samsung version of my software instead of the Verizon version.
HyperChick said:
When it was once in a while, no big deal. When it became every day, day after day. Some times twice a day during work? Now I have to turn off my ringer. My parents are both elderly and not in the best of health. I've already missed 2 calls. I finally got pissed and decided to answer one of those spoof calls to tell them where to go. When it's a recording of a man's voice physically threatening me to return the call, you better believe I'm in rare form now. I'm studying cyber intelligence. I want these SOBs with every fiber of my being. It makes my blood boil every time I thing of that call and every person that might receive one like it. That sh$%*t has to stop.
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You need to get under their skin. Different things work on different people. Get to know them by feeling them out... then pounce.
When you hit their last nerve it's priceless.
No need to be polite or fair... great when you're really in a foul mood.
I had a bill collector husband/wife team from India hounding me for months. Nothing worked.
Finally I pretended like the husband was my long my long lost bf (not). He was a lot homophobic. That was the end of him. His wife still persisted until I used a similar Looney Toons spin with her.
A double KO. Be creative and have fun
OP, confirm new the PCB P/N matches with the original. Order using the original P/N.
Otherwise expect shenanigans on boot up
Thanks so much. Sorry I didn't follow up. I was looking into getting a ATT Note 10 and flashing unlocked XAA, but I bought an unlocked one instead. Thanks.
wgraz said:
Thanks so much. Sorry I didn't follow up. I was looking into getting a ATT Note 10 and flashing unlocked XAA, but I bought an unlocked one instead. Thanks.
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It's a great Note. I would keep it running on Pie though.
Thanks. I'm already on 11. I guess I can go back any time. Just need to download the latest PIE XAA, right?
Do I leave my SIM in the phone when I flash? Or does it matter
wgraz said:
Thanks. I'm already on 11. I guess I can go back any time. Just need to download the latest PIE XAA, right?
Do I leave my SIM in the phone when I flash? Or does it matter
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I'm not sure. Never have flashed my stock 10+, I just disabled updates.
Play with it first, see what you think.
You lose apps that use overlays and things like the Karma Firewall's valuble logging feature.
Worse CPU cycle robbing scope storage.
SD card functionality is likely boned too.
It will not be possible to downgrade to Pie from Android 11, as the bootloader cannot be downgraded to the one part to stock Pie has...
OnnoJ said:
It will not be possible to downgrade to Pie from Android 11, as the bootloader cannot be downgraded to the one part to stock Pie has...
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Same goes for Android 10? Every time you get a major upgrade, the bootloader version goes up? Thx
Latest android 9 version has BL version 2. If you are on Android 10, you should be able to downgrade to 9/Pie, provided it also has BL version 2.
Ever figure out if it can be unlocked?

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