Gesture Navigation - Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions &

I'm still confused as to what specific nav gestures folks keep bringing up when it comes to third party launchers not supporting them?
So on my previous OnePlus phones, I used Nova Launcher. I used full nav gestures. Swip up to home, swipe up and hold for recent apps, swipe from sides to nav back.
On my S20+, I'm using full nav gestures, no indicator, but Samsung's buttons like on my Note 10+ which was awesome. Swipe up from bottom right to go back, swipe up from bottom middle to go home, swipe up from bottom left for recent apps and with this setup I still have that wonderful ability to swipe from the left or right side of the display (all along the sides from the top and bottom) so I can pull from the sides in order to bring up side menus that many apps use. Like the Google Play Store.
So from what I can tell, if you want to use the swipe from the sides to go back and swipe from corner for GA, you can't do this on the Sammy phones unless using the stock launcher but I still could use these gestures on my OP phones using Nova.
So what exactly are third party launchers blocking? I'm sorry if I'm being a dummy here. Any help is useful. Thank you!

It's not third party launchers which are blocking it its Google, they had limitations on android 10 which were later patched. The issue is now that the phone manufacturers have to implement that patch. Samsung said a week or so ago that this feature will be coming with the One Ui 2.5 but I have seem no time scales.
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It's not third party launchers which are blocking it its Google, they had limitations on android 10 which were later patched. The issue is now that the phone manufacturers have to implement that patch. Samsung said a week or so ago that this feature will be coming with the One Ui 2.5 but I have seem no time scales.
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But what specific gestures are not working using third party launchers that Google is blocking? Because I seem to have been able to use various full gestures across the OnePlus 7T, 7T Pro, Note 10+ and now S20+.

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Gesture app to expand quick tiles?

Hi all. I tried both Action and Nova launchers and while I like both I'd rather just stick with the stock launcher. One thing I greatly miss though is the gestures, specifically the option to swipe down from anywhere in the home screen to expand quick tiles.
I searched the Play Store and found a couple gesture apps but came up empty. Any help would be appreciated!
mjs2011 said:
Hi all. I tried both Action and Nova launchers and while I like both I'd rather just stick with the stock launcher. One thing I greatly miss though is the gestures, specifically the option to swipe down from anywhere in the home screen to expand quick tiles.
I searched the Play Store and found a couple gesture apps but came up empty. Any help would be appreciated!
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Try quicktile someone posted that they made it on here and I saw a lot of good things about it and it's specifically made for the pixel and xl
Veid71 said:
Try quicktile someone posted that they made it on here and I saw a lot of good things about it and it's specifically made for the pixel and xl
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Thanks. Just downloaded it and it looks like it only supports making new tiles, not a quick gesture to quickly expand quick settings unfortunately.
If you're rooted then give GMD gesture control a try. Fully customizable gesture support. It's one of the primary reasons why I root my devices. I particularly like having custom edge gestures to make one handed operation very easy. I've got several apps and functions mapped to thumb gestures of various shapes/directions from the right edge. Works great.
why not just swipe down from the top with two fingers?
I know its not 'anywhere' on the screen, but its just what you want.
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If you're rooted then give GMD gesture control a try. Fully customizable gesture support. It's one of the primary reasons why I root my devices. I particularly like having custom edge gestures to make one handed operation very easy. I've got several apps and functions mapped to thumb gestures of various shapes/directions from the right edge. Works great.
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Unfortunately I'm not rooted do to using my phone for work. I did see that though.
uicnren said:
why not just swipe down from the top with two fingers?
I know its not 'anywhere' on the screen, but its just what you want.
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Because I'd rather be able to swipe from anywhere on the screen like you can set up in Nova Launcher.
Hopefully I'm wrong but my gut tells me that in order to get what you want an app would have to intercept touchscreen input while the default home screen is active . . . and that would require root.
LMT looks like the app you're looking for.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330150
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Nova launcher

With the Pixel 3 and 3 XL forcing gesture navigation will regular button be available when using an alternate launcher like Nova?
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With the Pixel 3 and 3 XL forcing gesture navigation will regular button be available when using an alternate launcher like Nova?
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I saw a video yesterday on YouTube that showed the option to revert back to the old button layout instead of using gestures. It was on a beta version of Pie but it’s very possible that they kept it in the final release.
Here’s a link to instructions to enable gestures if your on a phone such as the pixel 2 that received the Pie update. I assume turning the gestures off would work the same way.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-use-android-9-pie-gesture-navigation/amp/
I believe there are posts about gestures being the only form of navigation
I'm on Pie with my Pixel XL and can turn the gesture navigation on or off. I believe the Pixel 3 and 3 XL are forced to use gesture navigation and it can't be turned off.
airmaxx23 said:
I'm on Pie with my Pixel XL and can turn the gesture navigation on or off. I believe the Pixel 3 and 3 XL are forced to use gesture navigation and it can't be turned off.
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Well that kind of sucks.
DarkPhoenix said:
Well that kind of sucks.
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If you don't like it/already use it
when it came in, I figured it was going to be the new way, so I used and learnt it. Now I can't go back -
Had a RMA on a Pixel OG XL and got a sony Z3 as a temp phone and it killed me
y2grae said:
If you don't like it/already use it
when it came in, I figured it was going to be the new way, so I used and learnt it. Now I can't go back -
Had a RMA on a Pixel OG XL and got a sony Z3 as a temp phone and it killed me
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All I’ve ever used is the old style, I’m sure I’ll get used to it though.
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All I’ve ever used is the old style, I’m sure I’ll get used to it though.
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I was the same initially, but I've been using the gesture nav on pie for a few months now and I can't go back. It's way better. Even used to the asymmetrical back button. Really wish I could decrease the height of it though.
Chronzy said:
I was the same initially, but I've been using the gesture nav on pie for a few months now and I can't go back. It's way better. Even used to the asymmetrical back button. Really wish I could decrease the height of it though.
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I don't mind using the nav bar but I just hope Nova Launcher or a custom ROM allows the switching of the back button to the right side of the home button.
just downloaded Hyperion Launcher on my 2xl.
It's interesting as it has features from several different launchers, including nova.
It's brand new and is a little buggy (very little so far) but I think I'm going to play with it for a day or 2.
I didn't purchase the pro version, which is expensive (sort of) at 3.99, but I might if it continues to interest me tomorrow.
As a previous Nova Launcher user for for a few years now, do you guys recommend I get used to Google's default launcher before using Nova again?
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As a previous Nova Launcher user for for a few years now, do you guys recommend I get used to Google's default launcher before using Nova again?
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I personally don't like the lack of options with the stock launcher. With my OG Pixel XL I recently turned on the gesture navigation and have been getting used to it while still using Nova Launcher.
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I don't mind using the nav bar but I just hope Nova Launcher or a custom ROM allows the switching of the back button to the right side of the home button.
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If I understand you correctly, this is currently possible without root using custom navigation bar. Latest Pie, assume it should work on 3 XL as well, or at the least should be updated to do so shortly, the dev is excellent with updates.
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If I understand you correctly, this is currently possible without root using custom navigation bar. Latest Pie, assume it should work on 3 XL as well, or at the least should be updated to do so shortly, the dev is excellent with updates.
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Is custom navigation bar an app or a setting within nova launcher?
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Is custom navigation bar an app or a setting within nova launcher?
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It's an app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xyz.paphonb.systemuituner&hl=en_US
I kinda prefer the OnePlus gestures because you don't have to give up any space at all for navigation. It's ironic to me that all this effort is being expended on getting a little notched screen real estate when doing away with the nav bar area gives you the same amount of usable screen real estate without a notch covering a large chunk of what you just gained. I mean if you're going to have the horrid notch in the name of more screen real estate why not also grab the wasted space at the bottom of the screen while you're at it?
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I kinda prefer the OnePlus gestures because you don't have to give up any space at all for navigation. It's ironic to me that all this effort is being expended on getting a little notched screen real estate when doing away with the nav bar area gives you the same amount of usable screen real estate without a notch covering a large chunk of what you just gained. I mean if you're going to have the horrid notch in the name of more screen real estate why not also grab the wasted space at the bottom of the screen while you're at it?
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At a guess I'd say there are some design restraints that affect all Android devices. THAT may be one of them. Specifically, constraints to maintain interoperability between independent developers apps running on Android. Start messing with the navigation menu too much, there's no telling what you are going to break.
Of course, it being Google, maybe they have some idea of what they are going to break and chose not to maketh with the breaking...
Possible, I don't know enough about it to poke at the nuts and bolts of it. With OnePlus you can have it either way at that tap of a button, maybe it was a toggle? My understanding was you could do this with Pie also and just go back to the nav bar if you wanted up until this device. With OnePlus it didn't in any way affect the phone or apps that I have except the launcher. I've got the pay Action and Nova and both of those have gestures you can use which can conflict with the nav gestures. Action in fact put out a beta update that made it so a swipe up from the bottom opened the app drawer and that couldn't be changed which completely broke the OnePlus gestures which also swipe up from the bottom. Cred to those guys, I sent an email about it and it was fixed within a few days so that you could turn that off. Not sure how many sent such an email but it was nice to see the quick response regardless. I guess where I'm going is I can see how it could conflict with something, but it shouldn't be too much from what I've seen; nothing a developer worth his salt wouldn't sort out quickly.
Using stock launcher currently, as swipe right isn't working for me using Nova. Hoping this will be fixed soon.
tj_f said:
Using stock launcher currently, as swipe right isn't working for me using Nova. Hoping this will be fixed soon.
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Swipe right works for me on Nova Prime. Are you doing it along the nav bar?

Android Q Beta Full Gestural Navigation w/ third party launchers?

Can anyone tell me if the new full gestural navigation is playing nice with third party launchers in Q beta 4? Specifically Lawnchair? I know with two button gestures the back arrow stayed on screen the entire time when using a third party launcher, even on the home screen. Not crazy about that look. I'm wondering if the new full gestural navigation in Q, with the slimmed down pill at the bottom of the screen, was functioning normally with third party launchers, same as it does for the default Pixel launcher. Would like to jump on board this Q train, and full gestures, but cannot give up third party launchers to do so.
Thanks in advance.
I am using the full gestures on nova and they work good enough to use daily, I have not tried on other launchers.
daveparki said:
I am using the full gestures on nova and they work good enough to use daily, I have not tried on other launchers.
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Great, thanks, that's good to know. So for the most part, full gesture navigation in Q beta 4 is working the same on Nova as it is in the default pixel launcher? Hopefully that applies to Lawnchair, and other third party launchers as well.
It is a useable service, has the odd issue when accessing recent items but have not noticed anything else.
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I am using the full gestures on nova and they work good enough to use daily, I have not tried on other launchers.
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What is the trick to get into the app draw instead of recent apps when swiping up?
So swiping up on the line in full gesture navigation opens recents every time? Instead of the app drawer?
Can a separate gesture then be set in a third party launcher to open the app drawer when swiping up on the homescreen? Could be a work around.
Swiping up does open the app drawer but there is a fine line between the recent app action and opening the app drawer
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The trick I use is to swipe up slightly above the line, don't touch the line as you get recent apps.

One UI 2.0 new navigation bar gesture

Previously, double tab recent tab will switch to previous app.
For Android 10, I need to press and drag from center to bring up recent apps. However, I can't find faster way to switch to previous app.
Any one know how?
If you do that motion (for recents) and flick it to the right in just one motion switches back to previous app.
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If you do that motion (for recents) and flick it to the right in just one motion switches back to previous app.
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I switched back to the original one. Double tap is so much easy. I use One Hand Operation+ which can go back the same way.
And I use Nova Launcher. New gesture is not compatible
torickray said:
I switched back to the original one. Double tap is so much easy. I use One Hand Operation+ which can go back the same way.
And I use Nova Launcher. New gesture is not compatible
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I don't have the Android 10 update yet but from what I see in the new Oneui2 you can just swipe to the right at the bottom to go to your previous app. Doesn't get better than that. It's just about the same as iPhone gesture.
LuRock said:
I don't have the Android 10 update yet but from what I see in the new Oneui2 you can just swipe to the right at the bottom to go to your previous app. Doesn't get better than that. It's just about the same as iPhone gesture.
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I'm using Nova launcher. Can't use the gesture anyway.
torickray said:
I'm using Nova launcher. Can't use the gesture anyway.
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oh I see.. Have you tried to see it works with Lawnchair 2?
Also, you can swipe to the left and go real quick to original app you were on. Try it!
torickray said:
I'm using Nova launcher. Can't use the gesture anyway.
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I tried this method https://www.theandroidsoul.com/how-...ova-launcher-and-other-third-party-launchers/ but it always seems to go back to the nav bar at the bottom after a while.
I don't know if anyone else is facing the sake issue in regard to the navigation gestures. But when I type faster on the screen keyboard I sometimes end up in the home screen or launching another application as if I hit a hidden home key or recent key.
I use gestures (no navigation bar)
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I don't know if anyone else is facing the sake issue in regard to the navigation gestures. But when I type faster on the screen keyboard I sometimes end up in the home screen or launching another application as if I hit a hidden home key or recent key.
I use gestures (no navigation bar)
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I still haven't received the Android 10 update but I will definitely look for that when I get it. Thanks q
I recently found out that good lock does not work on android 10, and I rely on it very much, I use one handed operation because I hate the nav bar, I can not tolerate having all the space it takes being wasted, so I have it hidden and I use gestures, but I am seeing that gesture nav is a nightmare on android 10, I think I will stick on blocking the update, as I did since day one, precisely because of these things
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I recently found out that good lock does not work on android 10, and I rely on it very much, I use one handed operation because I hate the nav bar, I can not tolerate having all the space it takes being wasted, so I have it hidden and I use gestures, but I am seeing that gesture nav is a nightmare on android 10, I think I will stick on blocking the update, as I did since day one, precisely because of these things
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I'm on Android 10 and have Good lock installed, One Hand Operation+ works fine. Not all apps are available in Good lock yet but should be within a couple of months, like when One UI originally came out.
One hand operations+ works also on Android 10, with that you have granular customizable gestures including switch to last app, recents and a comfy lateral quick switch for all app opened! OHO+ works also without good lock app installed, you can sideload it from apkmirror or here in the xda forums taking advantage of nicelock. Nicelock also integrates an information tab with all the modules working on Android 10
Hex installer is working
On andriod 10. Hex installer fixed the weird nav bar issue when set to swipe. I set the nav bar size to 5. Swipes work without the huge black bar under the keyboard.
One hand operation still works. I use nova but one hand operation is my preference anyway.
Also, I cannot hide the carrier logo or move the clock. I tried systemui turner. It doesnt work for clock or carrier. Some other functions work though.
For now I just set the weather consistent notification to get rid of the AT&T on statusbar.
Hopefully goodlock will fix this when updated.
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I recently found out that good lock does not work on android 10, and I rely on it very much, I use one handed operation because I hate the nav bar, I can not tolerate having all the space it takes being wasted, so I have it hidden and I use gestures, but I am seeing that gesture nav is a nightmare on android 10, I think I will stick on blocking the update, as I did since day one, precisely because of these things
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Good Lock is updating to be more compatible with Android 10. It is not finished yet. When all capability issues are resolved and updated, that's when we will get our update.

Nova Launcher

As much as I want to use Nova Launcher, it's just not as smooth and quick as the stock Pixel Launcher. Anyone else feel this way? At the same time, I have a love/hate relationship with Pixel Launcher because I love having the icon unread notification numbers on Nova as well as being able to change the home screen grid size. In the end, though, Nova is just not as quick loading apps and the app drawer.
I agree Google isn't making it easy to use another launcher on Pixel phones. It's a shame.
Nova is definitely not as smooth as the Pixel launcher. But Nova has so many advantages for me that I'll take its options over overall smoothness any day.
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I agree Google isn't making it easy to use another launcher on Pixel phones. It's a shame.
Nova is definitely not as smooth as the Pixel launcher. But Nova has so many advantages for me that I'll take its options over overall smoothness any day.
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Same here.
U guys can use one plus launcher, one UI launcher and a custom pixel launcher as well with More customizations. There's a thread on telegram.
Action Launcher does pretty much everything Nova can do and it does everything stock pixel launcher does too. Including copying from recents screen and using Android 10 gestures.
Launchers can add the ability to work correctly on Pixels, Google opened up the ability for 3rd party launchers in December, Action Launcher is only one I know of that can do it without using quickstep or magisk.
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Action Launcher does pretty much everything Nova can do and it does everything stock pixel launcher does too. Including copying from recents screen and using Android 10 gestures.
Launchers can add the ability to work correctly on Pixels, Google opened up the ability for 3rd party launchers in December, Action Launcher is only one I know of that can do it without using quickstep.
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The ones I'm referring to don't require quickstep either, just flash in magisk
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The ones I'm referring to don't require quickstep either, just flash in magisk
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Action Launcher doesn't require magisk.
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Action Launcher doesn't require magisk.
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Fully aware, just providing more options
I keep seeing these threads where at least one person claims Nova doesn't work correctly. Last year, I would have agreed... but I've been using Nova for months and I have forgotten about any drawbacks if there are any. The only differences I remember are a couple animations and the recents menu doesn't have suggestion icons? (which never suggested apps I wanted to use, so I don't miss it)
What's the smoothness that people are complaining about? The animations run as fast as my finger pushes things around... Is it just the quality and type of animations? If so, I want functionality far over such things. Having to use substratum/magisk to customize the Pixel Launcher was way worse than recreating my layout in Nova. If only things like TeslaUnread were still officially supported... but Google likes killing off useful things.
Feel free to help me understand what I'm missing.
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I keep seeing these threads where at least one person claims Nova doesn't work correctly. Last year, I would have agreed... but I've been using Nova for months and I have forgotten about any drawbacks if there are any. The only differences I remember are a couple animations and the recents menu doesn't have suggestion icons? (which never suggested apps I wanted to use, so I don't miss it)
What's the smoothness that people are complaining about? The animations run as fast as my finger pushes things around... Is it just the quality and type of animations? If so, I want functionality far over such things. Having to use substratum/magisk to customize the Pixel Launcher was way worse than recreating my layout in Nova. If only things like TeslaUnread were still officially supported... but Google likes killing off useful things.
Feel free to help me understand what I'm missing.
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Nova says in the settings that Google has not made it possible for Nova to use Android 10 gestures correctly. Google has made it work, but Nova hasn't been updated to allow it yet.
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Nova says in the settings that Google has not made it possible for Nova to use Android 10 gestures correctly. Google has made it work, but Nova hasn't been updated to allow it yet.
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In my opinion, the warning is wrong. Back when I first got my phone, like half of the gestures didn't quite work. Now everything works for me.
At Nova's homescreen...
Swipe from side: Isn't triggered because you can't go back from home. Just flips pages.
Swipe from bottom: Opens app search. I'm not sure if the gesture is doing this or Nova is.
Swipe from bottom & hold: Opens recents.
Swipe from corner: Shows assistant overlay.
Everything basic works. I don't have palm swipe screenshots enabled.
My issue with Nova is the delay going back to the home screen. I can't immediately open another app. I always have to wait an extra second or click on app twice before it opens. I want the full pixel experience and it seems that Nova doesn't always deliver on it. I do occasionally go back to it until I get annoyed with my first statement.
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Honestly, I've never noticed this. I guess I go home before I know what I want to click on and so I'm never quick enough to see it.
The way it's acting, it reminds me of a paused activity that needs to refresh when the app gets restored. I tried to disable battery optimization for Nova, but it didn't help. I'm not sure how to solve that.
I tried the same test on my old phone and pressing the home button actually does nothing for a split second, then Nova shows and responds immediately. But when you gesture, you want it to happen immediately... not a split second later. So in that way, Android 10 and Nova do the sensible thing and shows the paused activity.
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Can you provide a link please?
I was using Nova Launche a lot of time ago! let's going to check how does it works now!
I have no reason to use any other launcher than pixel launcher. It works just as I need.
not sure what the hoo-blah is. I have been using Nova prime beta with no issues. No problems returning home... No speed issues. The warning that is in there is talking about the gesture navigation system wide not inside the launcher. So this means you have to use the classic 3 button method to navigate (back, home, recent). IMHO this does not affect the experience at all. Definitely prefer Nova and the customization over the stock launcher. :good:
Edit:Actually just changed the nav settings and Nova is working with new gestures.
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not sure what the hoo-blah is. I have been using Nova prime beta with no issues. No problems returning home... No speed issues. The warning that is in there is talking about the gesture navigation system wide not inside the launcher. So this means you have to use the classic 3 button method to navigate (back, home, recent). IMHO this does not affect the experience at all. Definitely prefer Nova and the customization over the stock launcher. :good:
Edit:Actually just changed the nav settings and Nova is working with new gestures.
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I just switched back to Nova from Lawnchair on both my S20+ and Pixel 4XL. Nova works beautiful now and Nova Google Companion works with dark mode.
I'm on Android 11 Beta and am running Nova with no problems with gestures at all. For some reason on 10 they were not working as smooth and I would get some lag going back to the home screen. On 11, those problems have seemed to disappear.
While that's true, the closing app animation is not there and feels weird. ( Using gesture navigation )

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