Is this forum and the Verizon Note 8 dead??? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers

Is this forum and the Verizon Note 8 dead??? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers

The last several posts in this subforum have gone with no replies and some have been up for quite awhile. I have also noticed on other subforums in this forum that it has been quite some time since the most recent posts. I understand that the ability to root and modify is a bit difficult with these but there are still common issues being discussed that have nothing to do with rooting or modding.
It seems like the Verizon Note 8 has reached the end of life and it may be time to move to something different. What is everyone's thoughts on this?

mikeyk101 said:
The last several posts in this subforum have gone with no replies and some have been up for quite awhile. I have also noticed on other subforums in this forum that it has been quite some time since the most recent posts. I understand that the ability to root and modify is a bit difficult with these but there are still common issues being discussed that have nothing to do with rooting or modding.
It seems like the Verizon Note 8 has reached the end of life and it may be time to move to something different. What is everyone's thoughts on this?
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I think it's pretty much reached it's EOL and some of us are just still helping out where we can but I doubt that there's much if at all any work for root or other modifications going on.

WOW can't believe such a popular phone could have so little Dev Interest?
Just Got a cheap refurbished one that came unlocked but if there's no support I should return it.
What other decent rootable phones are there with great dev support?

amppcguru said:
WOW can't believe such a popular phone could have so little Dev Interest?
Just Got a cheap refurbished one that came unlocked but if there's no support I should return it.
What other decent rootable phones are there with great dev support?
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That kind of happens because everyone wants the latest greatest phone and they just move on pretty quickly.. I'm guilty of doing that myself because every time a new phones out I have to have it lol .

I just fixed my phone
My Verizon note 8 had a broken screen, a broken back panel, and only 80% of the original battery capacity. My Gear S3's had a battery drain issue, so I went to a Samsung repair center to get both fixed. I really don't like this smartphone consumerism because a high-end smartphone like Note 8 should have a life span that is similar to a laptop. I may get an Android 12 phone soon because my Note 8's Android 9 is becoming too old. I really don't want to spend money for a new phone because my Note 8 still runs very smoothly.

realIK17 said:
I just fixed my phone
I really don't like this smartphone consumerism because a high-end smartphone like Note 8 should have a life span that is similar to a laptop. I may get an Android 12 phone soon because my Note 8's Android 9 is becoming too old. I really don't want to spend money for a new phone because my Note 8 still runs very smoothly.
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I fully agree -- I'm incredibly disappointed to find that this phone that I've had for 3+ years, still in flawless condition, will soon basically lose functionality for newer applications.
It's more powerful than some smartphones being released today, the camera is fantastic, and I just want to root it and get some extra life out of it. Android 9 is so old by phone standards at this point, and this phone is entirely too capable to be stuck on an obsolete OS like that.
It's crap like this that is driving me away from Samsung -- my last several phones were Samsung, all of my TVs are Samsung (some have the same EOL issue with not receiving updates anymore, others work flawlessly -- funny enough, the older Smart TVs seem to work better than the "newer" ones I have).
Contemplating buying an iPhone 12 Pro Max so hard right now.

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Who is going to upgrade to Note 4/Edge from their LG G3

I had the note 3 for a year and upgraded to the G3 as soon as it came out. Im seriously thinking about upgrading again. I'm just a fool for the latest and greatest, but i do really love the G3. The wife has the note 3 so I was gonna give her the G3. Keep it in the family. What do you guys think? Anybody else going to make the move? The edge really has my eye.
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I've had all 3 notes and the first 4 Galaxy S devices. i got the LG G3 to take a break from samsung as the UI was getting boring. Every new Samsung device I got felt like all the others except a little more powerful. I was looking forward to September 3rd to hear what the Note 4 was going to have, and I must say I was a little disappointed, expecially with no water proofing. I think I am going to sit this Note out and wait for the LG G4. Other then a finger print scanner, note 4 doesn't have much more my G3 doesn't have. Little faster 805 processor but whooptie doo lol. I'm actually very happy with it and can't justify a $800 purchase to buy a Note 4. The wrap around screen seems worthless to me. But hey, different strokes for different folks.

stillbrad said:
I had the note 3 for a year and upgraded to the G3 as soon as it came out. Im seriously thinking about upgrading again. I'm just a fool for the latest and greatest, but i do really love the G3. The wife has the note 3 so I was gonna give her the G3. Keep it in the family. What do you guys think? Anybody else going to make the move? The edge really has my eye.
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I'll pick my note 4 as soon as it is released. I'm tired of slow development among the community , device which commonly overheats, and not getting updates from t-mobile. Note 4, here I go

fabiosantossillva said:
I'll pick my note 4 as soon as it is released. I'm tired of slow development among the community , device which commonly overheats, and not getting updates from t-mobile. Note 4, here I go
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Yeah but isn't Samsung locking down the bootloaders across all carrier's now? If you think development is slow on the g3 just wait until you're on a unbelievably impossible to unlock Samsung boot loader.

I too am disappointed with the development with the G3. Which is one reason for me jumping as well. Seems that all the samsung devices ive had always had strong development. But i hear you on the otherside of this. I left samsung too to try something different and like i said i love my G3. I love size of it especially. But i dont know...the note 4 does offer alot of nice features..but its not THAT much better then the G3. Im going to have to compare first hand.
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stillbrad said:
I too am disappointed with the development with the G3. Which is one reason for me jumping as well. Seems that all the samsung devices ive had always had strong development. But i hear you on the otherside of this. I left samsung too to try something different and like i said i love my G3. I love size of it especially. But i dont know...the note 4 does offer alot of nice features..but its not THAT much better then the G3. Im going to have to compare first hand.
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Note 4 features a snapdragon 805 processor , which is more adequate to deal with QHD screen. LG G3 demands a lot from processor capabilities due to its high display resolution, what leads the phone to overheat. The front facing camera on new note 4 has been vastly improved. There's a sort of green tint on photos taken using LG G3 front facing camera. Screen on battery life, is pretty disappointing on LG G3 as well.

You guys talking about lack of development are Crazy it takes time to do these things as soon as things get ironed out i know 2 people already working and have roms being already booted!! Just calm down and relax things are happening!

tattooboy said:
You guys talking about lack of development are Crazy it takes time to do these things as soon as things get ironed out i know 2 people already working and have roms being already booted!! Just calm down and relax things are happening!
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I'm not complaining about that.... I know nobody is being rewarded for developing Roms for our devices.... However is disappointing to see how slow this forum is, mainly due to the wrong decision made by LG of keeping locked bootloader in mostly LG G3 variants. It drives me crazy how aggressive is the camera white balance and how fast it discharges once you turn its screen on. Not mentioning how hot it gets when processing heavy tasks.

For me it depends on weather Note 4 handles heat better than G3. If it is, I think I'll upgrade.

All the people complaining about slow development, either contribute to the development or be quiet. It is utterly ridiculous to complain about development on a device that has not even been out that long. Samsung is becoming like Apple, more of the same and less innovation. The note 4 is basically the s5 enlarged and added hardware additions minus the weather proofing.

Yea I'm sure development is going to go faster on the note 4.... Maybe as fast as the galaxy S5! Cause it only took them a few months to get CM, how dare the G3 take just as long [emoji33]

Look, we are looking at less than a week until CM hits the G3, stock AOSP is coming, after that it's just a matter of time before all sorts of stuff starts hitting.. people who think there is slow development aren't paying attention..

The devs develop for phones in their spare time, for free, without asking for much in return. The G3 has been out for not even two months yet so did you really expect there to be the same level of options available as phones that have been out MUCH longer?
Two things to consider.
1. The other variants are locked down. This limits development for the T-Mobile variant because let's be frank; devs are devoting their time to unlocking the other G3's instead of focusing on one variant.
2. The G3 will have CyanogenMod available probably within the week. That is awesome. So people ARE working on developing for the phones. If you're unhappy with the speed of the development, why don't you read up on how to develop for Android, and make your own ROM.
This is the same story that follows almost every device with the exception of Nexus devices. Phone gets released, time is taken to root and unlock bootloader. People are patient through this process. As soon as the bootloader is unlocked, people are *****ing about not having a flawless ROM within a day. Complaints start flowing in about how development is slow and there is no one working on anything. There is another phone coming out within a few weeks to a month, and those same people *****ing jump ship to that phone once it comes out. Give it a month, and then they start the process all over again on that device while posting things along the lines of "Should have kept 'X' or 'Y' phone, development for this phone sucks!" The grass isn't always greener on the other side.
TLDR; stop your *****ing and learn to develop for the G3 if you're unhappy with the phone.

tattooboy said:
You guys talking about lack of development are Crazy it takes time to do these things as soon as things get ironed out i know 2 people already working and have roms being already booted!! Just calm down and relax things are happening!
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When the note 3 first came out by week 2 we had 2 kernels and about 3-5 Roms so yes this phone does lack development. I am greatful to the 2-3 devs that are working on it but this phone just does not have the following. It is what it is.
AWESOME G3

Handling Overheat
Some folks are talking about poor overheat handling in our G3 but is just a minor issue. I have set a profile for that on SetCPU:
Turn this profile on when...
Any of these are true...
Battery <= 30%
Battery >= 41 C
Set the CPU speed
300-300
Priority: 100
My G3 never overheats now.

BACARDILIMON said:
When the note 3 first came out by week 2 we had 2 kernels and about 3-5 Roms so yes this phone does lack development. I am greatful to the 2-3 devs that are working on it but this phone just does not have the following. It is what it is.
AWESOME G3
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IB4 someone tells you, you're wrong and have no right to that opinion. GTFO and all that jazz! Sheesh!

Cablespider said:
IB4 someone tells you, you're wrong and have no right to that opinion. GTFO and all that jazz! Sheesh!
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That the great thing everyone can have an opinion. I never take anything in offense so it all good.
AWESOME G3

BACARDILIMON said:
When the note 3 first came out by week 2 we had 2 kernels and about 3-5 Roms so yes this phone does lack development. I am greatful to the 2-3 devs that are working on it but this phone just does not have the following. It is what it is.
AWESOME G3
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You are forgetting thats before sammy got cute with the bootloader. Roms were out for the note 2 in weeks, same for s4, took a bit longer on the note 3, far longer on the s5...I can only imagine where the note 4 going to be. For our development hunger, i hope not as long as the g3 ..i mean who dont want pages, upon pages of roms and kernels for a phone that have been out for almost two months with lock bootloaders.
This is the problem with tmobile. US has the least amount of talented developers, especially for tmobile because 99% are busy whining, complaining, and throwing antsy fit about the lack of development. the 1% that DO something are not recognize. smh. Spend more time learning how to develop, less time complaining maybe...just MAYBE development will get far.
P.S that second paragraph isn't pertaining to the quoted individual.

mgbotoe said:
You are forgetting thats before sammy got cute with the bootloader. Roms were out for the note 2 in weeks, same for s4, took a bit longer on the note 3, far longer on the s5...I can only imagine where the note 4 going to be. For our development hunger, i hope not as long as the g3 ..i mean who dont want pages, upon pages of roms and kernels for a phone that have been out for almost two months with lock bootloaders.
This is the problem with tmobile. US has the least amount of talented developers, especially for tmobile because 99% are busy whining, complaining, and throwing antsy fit about the lack of development. the 1% that DO something are not recognize. smh. Spend more time learning how to develop, less time complaining maybe...just MAYBE development will get far.
P.S that second paragraph isn't pertaining to the quoted individual.
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Thered probably be more development if all but the tmobile g3s didnt have locked bootloaders. Im sure that its not too hard to convert the roms available for the other g3s. I guess comming from a nokia windows phone where not much development has happened, the devlopment here has been pretty quick to me. Just have to be patient.

I've been a Samsung fan for a long time now, but I recently got my LG G3 and doubt I'll be parting with it anytime soon. at least not until the G4 comes out

[Q] About to upgrade Note 8; seeking advice / opinions from owners please :)

Hey everyone, I'm right on the verge of upgrading my current Galaxy Note 8 (SGH P5110 - wifi variant) to this device (the T-mobile lte variant), so I've been frantically searching this forum to make sure it was a reasonable upgrade and what the deal with the Tmo variant was, so I just wanted to clarify a few things I've learned so far, and just ask for opinions from xda members who own this device.
This "opportunity" came about rather unexpectedly, but in addition to the hardware upgrade, purchasing this tablet would have several additional significant benefits, to the point where cost is barely an issue (it will end up costing me next to nothing, if I don't actually make a little money on the deal). It's for this reason that if I were to go for an upgrade right now, it would have to be this device and it would have to be from T-mobile. The whole situation is kind of complex and super ridiculous, and even my hardest attempt to explain it briefly was getting out of hand... I'll edit this post and add it on tomorrow probably and those who don't care can easily skip it (probably a recommendation that also applies to "satisfied" AT&T customers, but then again, it's one of those "Yeah, I know. They actually pull that sort of thing regularly," so perhaps a PSA )
Anyway, to be honest, this tablet wouldn't really be on the "consideration" list if I was just looking for a new tablet... I'd at least wait to find out about the Nexus 9 if that were the case. However, upgrading my phone at some point is a much higher priority vs. tablet, despite the fact that it is pretty near to the "time" for one... I've been happy with the Note 8, and fortunately there were some very talented developers who worked on it, but not unlike your tablet, it was never really promoted by T-Mobile and never had a huge user-base. So this is pretty much my opportunity for a tablet upgrade, where I not to do it, I really can't say when I'd be able to retire the Note 8 (similar to internals of S3 despite being released around the time of the S4), however, the Note 10 does seem like it would be an extremely solid upgrade from the Note 8 so I just want to ask a few questions just to make sure I wouldn't really regret it on any level.
Ok, so the tablet sold by T-Mobile has the model number P607t, but it's really just a carrier branded P605 and compatible with the same ROMS as that device? If that's not the case / just to make sure: you can relatively easily gain full root (i.e. custom ROM, kernel, recovery)? Last, are there problems / issues / differences (aside from chipset) that make it inferior to the P605 or P600?
That's really all I just want to be sure of before pulling the trigger. Basic stuff, I know, but this was totally unexpected and don't have the luxury of time to do as much research as I'd like prior to deciding, so if anyone would be kind enough to address my impressions above, I'd be beyond grateful :good: Also any thoughts on the device sold by Tmo, or the upgrade from the P5110 to what looks to be a very nice device (despite how quickly Samsung stole the "super premium" label off of it) would be most welcome as well.
Hopefully I'm not mistaken regarding the info I've gleaned, and will soon have a new toy in hand. If that works out, I'll undoubtedly be spending much more time on this corner of XDA. Thanks much in advance

Any 10 inch tablet is better than a 8 inch screen...Go with the 2014 Note.....best tab out for the money...
I just rooted my gf p607t....Towelroot
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GalaxyNotesTx said:
Any 10 inch tablet is better than a 8 inch screen...Go with the 2014 Note.....best tab out for the money...
I just rooted my gf p607t....Towelroot
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Wait, the T-Mobile version works with towelroot without tripping KNOX?

I'm watching this thread because I am 95% in the same situation.

You will love the tablet thats a gaurantee however don't expect Android L or whatever the next updates is going to be anytime soon.
But yeah no tablet like it at the minute ... I use my tablet every single day for atleast 3hours a day. I actually gave away my laptop to my brother as the tablet is faster and more convenient in every way (bar typing lol). Anyhoo hope yous make the right choice...but like I said be prepared tonwait for updates haha.

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I'm watching this thread because I am 95% in the same situation.
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Not a bad situation to be in Thanks for the confirmation / encouragement. I'd definitely agree that 10.5 inchers are preferable, particularly for a Note 3 owner, unless the 8" in question is easily root/ROMable and 10.1, despite being a very significant upgrade across the board (will go from looking at an 8" 1600X1200(!) screen to this absolute beauty) it's ridiculously locked down, bootloader etc, and basically you need to run it straight stock, unable to even remove worthless pre-installed malware.... Were that the case, despite the fact that financially, etc. it really doesn't make sense to not do it, I'd still rather stick with my customized Note 8. The unbreakable rule is: if I'm prevented from viewing every file on a device that I own (i.e. root directory obviously), well, that would never happen because no matter how tempting otherwise, I wouldn't under any circumstances get that device. I think that framing the issue of locked bootloader, etc. and forcing users to jump through hoops to attain that level of access is a good way to clarify just how flat-out silly the issue is at its core when explaining to, ya know, people (i.e. those weirdos that don't even have one Linux partiton ) why that's an issue that they 'should care' about.
So... bit of a tirade on a tangent there but that's at the front of my mind when purchasing hardware, so glad to hear that there won't be any unpleasant surprises when picking up a new device. So really appreciate the encouragement to go ahead with it as well as confirmation of my expectation that it'll be a fantastic upgrade!
Very excited to get my new tablet... maybe today! Going to start downloading files to flash in prep I've been scouring the internet for an ideal case (something slim but protective with an open from, ideally a tempered glass screen cover built in) but have noticed that options are relatively slim... Was considering just going with an Otterbox Defender, but I really don't want to add that width much with to the beautifully slim bezel. No bout I'll find something I like though. Looking forward to learning about and discussing my new hardware with you all!

Geordie Affy said:
You will love the tablet thats a gaurantee however don't expect Android L or whatever the next updates is going to be anytime soon.
But yeah no tablet like it at the minute ... I use my tablet every single day for atleast 3hours a day. I actually gave away my laptop to my brother as the tablet is faster and more convenient in every way (bar typing lol). Anyhoo hope yous make the right choice...but like I said be prepared tonwait for updates haha.
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Right on! I can deal with the update situation, as long as at least a couple solid, actively developed custom ROMS to improve the (shudder) stock experience. I stick with TW base on Note's typically, so my next stop is the devdb to give it a more thorough review. That is definitely a good point re: official updates (i.e. lack thereof) but the device I'm coming from is a Note 8... my "official update" expectations really couldn't be lower :victory:

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Right on! I can deal with the update situation, as long as at least a couple solid, actively developed custom ROMS to improve the (shudder) stock experience. I stick with TW base on Note's typically, so my next stop is the devdb to give it a more thorough review. That is definitely a good point re: official updates (i.e. lack thereof) but the device I'm coming from is a Note 8... my "official update" expectations really couldn't be lower :victory:
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Ah yeah you have Note 8 lol so really you have been set to the perfect standard to buy the Note 10.1 in terms of updates haha.

I couldn't find much info whether there is no KNOX tripping root for the P607. That's the only thing holding me back.
I had the Wi-Fi version and I really, really like it. Unfortunately, I had returned it because there was no root that won't trip Knox and I need root to disable the bloatware that is killing the battery and slowing down the tablet. There are a few thread I posted where I show screenshot of the battery life when the tablet is idle.
But you may not care about root, so go forth and get this tablet![emoji12]

Is the bootloop issue active to sway a new customer elsewhere

The G4's price at some spots like Amazon is amazing to pass up. I have done my research on various phones and stay active on everything. With to many phones and variants in existence I can't be an expert on all. I'm still seeing the bootloop issue in forums but LG addressed this like 6 months ago. Are new in box versions of the G4 fixed? Or will these be phones that set in a warehouse for a year and will have the problem. I'm a android enthusiast tweaker. So my next phone has to be a contender with development. The 2 most important things. I recently bought a OnePlus 2 but after a ridiculous amount of negativity regarding hardware/software issues and overall negative real world reviews I sent it back before the 30 days were up. Most of which was recent times sadly. While some people might have a great version OP2 with good luck way to many people were sitting with a $300 brick in another country waiting forever. Sorry to ramble but I've been searching for 2 months now for a great midrange device that can be bought at $300 or less and have development but not have a guaranteed broken feature.

MustangLife03 said:
The G4's price at some spots like Amazon is amazing to pass up. I have done my research on various phones and stay active on everything. With to many phones and variants in existence I can't be an expert on all. I'm still seeing the bootloop issue in forums but LG addressed this like 6 months ago. Are new in box versions of the G4 fixed? Or will these be phones that set in a warehouse for a year and will have the problem. I'm a android enthusiast tweaker. So my next phone has to be a contender with development. The 2 most important things. I recently bought a OnePlus 2 but after a ridiculous amount of negativity regarding hardware/software issues and overall negative real world reviews I sent it back before the 30 days were up. Most of which was recent times sadly. While some people might have a great version OP2 with good luck way to many people were sitting with a $300 brick in another country waiting forever. Sorry to ramble but I've been searching for 2 months now for a great midrange device that can be bought at $300 or less and have development but not have a guaranteed broken feature.
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its unknown if they really fixed problem... they said they did but still people is reporting bootloop issues with newer phones as well.. the amount of people reporting is low... but they say it takes 8-9 months to show up so we need time for this phones to reach that time and see if they all start bootlooping likes the 505's.
be aware that not all g4 can be bootloader unlocked..

MustangLife03 said:
The G4's price at some spots like Amazon is amazing to pass up. I have done my research on various phones and stay active on everything. With to many phones and variants in existence I can't be an expert on all. I'm still seeing the bootloop issue in forums but LG addressed this like 6 months ago. Are new in box versions of the G4 fixed? Or will these be phones that set in a warehouse for a year and will have the problem. I'm a android enthusiast tweaker. So my next phone has to be a contender with development. The 2 most important things. I recently bought a OnePlus 2 but after a ridiculous amount of negativity regarding hardware/software issues and overall negative real world reviews I sent it back before the 30 days were up. Most of which was recent times sadly. While some people might have a great version OP2 with good luck way to many people were sitting with a $300 brick in another country waiting forever. Sorry to ramble but I've been searching for 2 months now for a great midrange device that can be bought at $300 or less and have development but not have a guaranteed broken feature.
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First of all G4 isnt a faster or a better all performer...if u want performance n quality go for LG V10 and for bootloop its for real most phones are refurbished meaning they were bought last year were only used for a week or more just like urs and then were sold so after a couple a months they were shipped to other countries and were sold off.... these G4s werent at all used hence many didnt pass the bootlloop time period for it to get bricked but many will eventually...This bootloop issue is so real i had to buy a used G3 for 130US$ i use my G4 as a second phone my phone hasnt been bootlooped as of yet but it will certainly so i might just turn it off let it sleep

raptorddd said:
its unknown if they really fixed problem... they said they did but still people is reporting bootloop issues with newer phones as well.. the amount of people reporting is low... but they say it takes 8-9 months to show up so we need time for this phones to reach that time and see if they all start bootlooping likes the 505's.
be aware that not all g4 can be bootloader unlocked..
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jinderation said:
First of all G4 isnt a faster or a better all performer...if u want performance n quality go for LG V10 and for bootloop its for real most phones are refurbished meaning they were bought last year were only used for a week or more just like urs and then were sold so after a couple a months they were shipped to other countries and were sold off.... these G4s werent at all used hence many didnt pass the bootlloop time period for it to get bricked but many will eventually...This bootloop issue is so real i had to buy a used G3 for 130US$ i use my G4 as a second phone my phone hasnt been bootlooped as of yet but it will certainly so i might just turn it off let it sleep
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Appreciate the fast responses guys. I didn't know the bootloop was a time developing type issue. Good to know.
"Jinderation" The V10 is a great looking phone but that is a pure flagship device in my eyes as I can't get one cheaper than $500. At that price I have plenty of options. The G4 H810 I can obtain new for $278-$285 so its a big difference vs the V10. My cutoff is $299 before taxes. Since the bootloop is a real issue I guess I'm gonna have to pass. Seeing as you never know if you got that repackaged type used looks new phone. I love everything about this phone especially at that price with the options.
I don't know why but I first came into the mod world in 2008 with the IPhone. Around 2013 to date I've been in the Android world. Development on hardware and software seems to be rushed on everything now a days and something has "that issue" Owning a IPhone I new if there was a real bug a update was gonna come out fast and even the 2011 4S has up to date IOS 5 years later. These android developers need to stop developing 35 versions of a phone every year and make 3 or 4 and the variants and produce them right. Again thanks for the replies guys. I guess I'm back on my search list for that phone.

S5 or carrier model S6 is on ur budget also ..S6 doesnt have any mc slot i also had one sold and bought G4..you can also try buying a repaired G4 directly from LG which already had motherboard replaced the pro is ur device wont get bricked ever or u could check ebay for certain model which were produced in 2015..they also havent reported for bootloop issue... My advice go for Galaxy S5 F model or G3 t mobile lots of mods and custom rom is availabe and also these devices have bootloader unlock and then wait alteast an year for S7 OR its edge version to have its priced down then buy that
Also this is my topic im sharing with u...see the consumer review on 1st page that i have mentioned and yes bootloop is a very serious issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/lawsuit-lg-defective-phones-t3408092/page7

Glad you waited? Glad you held off rushing to buy an alternate phone so soon?

As a pre-order Note 7 customer who never received one due to the Recall Farce I can outright state I am still a happy, content user of my now over 2 years old Note 4.
I was extremely upset at never getting a Note 7, but my point is, with all the other options being spouted out on these forums, iPhone 7, Pixel, V20, Mate 9 Porsche, Xiaomi Mi Note 2, S7 Edge I am so SOO happy I held off.
Why?
Because the rumors of the new Galaxy S8, and even Note 8, are just too exciting, and to all those who rushed in to a new 24 month locked in contract they may end up wishing they waited. I was so close to doing so with the S7 Edge, but kept telling myself, be patient!
The main points pushing me to sign a new contract were twofold, I have £50 Store Credit with Carphone Warehouse and the resale value of my current Note 4 is STILL very much of significance.
Who else is happy they waited and are excited about the new S8?

:highfive:

Considering I am still using my note 7, I am waiting till the s8 comes out or the note 8 before I turn this in. The only way they will get me to come in is if they deactivate it.

I'm waiting until they tell us how they are going to take care of us. I'm guessing they never will, so until then, I'll take advantage of them like they've done to me.

Like a few others on here I got mine sim free direct from Samsung UK using their 'Upgrade on finance' deal they were doing (£31 per month x 24 + 10% deposit). I still have N7#2 (on 100% battery thanks to early version of Package Disabler Pro) and intend to keep using it until the N8 comes out. As per the original Samsung deal, I return the N7 for the next version come next summer/autumn or whenever the next Note is out.
If they succeed in having me return the N7 before then I get a refund of any monies paid and we just start again when the N8 appears.

I cant imagine using Big Ass note 4 or 5, laugh!!
It is absolutely normal to get that feeling OP but is it really worth it? As you will be missing out on certain stage and the experience. There will always be a phone newer than yours. With your future s8 or note8 you will still go through exactly same experience as you mention before. In my opinion nothing changes. Note8 will also get old.
Note 7 to me is the crim de la crim. There is nothing about the phone that i don't like. It has it all. (if note 8 will be better, im sure ill wish i had it.)
Tiny bezels,
Curved screen(yes once you go curve its hard to go back)
Wireless fast charge(Super important. My future phones will always wireless)
Quick access camera button.
Big display(never will I go for 5.5) (S7 Edge look tiny) and Note 4 looks like a tanks compared to N7
Waterproof (piece of mind )
Awesome Display(which is one of the big features of Samsung for me)
Many, many other features that i don't want to mention as the aboves ones are enough to have glued to this phone and not want any other.
I thought about Pixel and V20 but those don't have what note 7 has therefore the phone is not for me.
I hope to keep the phone at very least till Note8 comes out. May be longer. (depending what N8 will have over N7) I usually change my phones every year tho but ill be happy keeping this one till N9. If possible.

Me too, I still use mine every day. See quite a few others around my job doing the same. I'll turn it in when they release the S8 or whatever comes next.
Like I have said many times on this forum, I really believe there is nothing wrong with this phone. The first batch, yeah, something was awry. But the second batch looks fine to me. This really had to do with perception. Once a second batch phone had a problem, Samsung had no choice. Whereas with most phones a simple battery fire wouldn't have been an issue, given the debacle with the first batch, Sammy would've been sued badly should any more of the 2nd batch phones lit up.
The last I heard, like 10% haven't returned their phones, so that means many, many thousands are still out there. And no reports of fire. Trust me, the media would be all over a fire caused by a user that failed to return their phone.
Just my opinion of course, your mileage may vary.
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Still mad I can't root though...Messed around and took the update. I was going to have them exchange, but then the recall happened. I'm fugged on that front...oh well.

Yes, actually I am also using my faithful old Note4. Waiting for next Samsung goodies, preferably with s-pen.

pinetreehater said:
The last I heard, like 10% haven't returned their phones, so that means many, many thousands are still out there. And no reports of fire. Trust me, the media would be all over a fire caused by a user that failed to return their phone.
Just my opinion of course, your mileage may vary.
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The is a very fair point. Even with say 5 or 10% of the phones out there, we'd expect to see incidents continuing to be reported albeit at a reduced rate. Yet there is no such news, and I like you I would think it would be big news not to be missed by the media. And yet, silence.
That said, I was happy to take the risk anyway, but unfortunately I am not happy to live with a phone that has no updates for 2 years and which doesn't work with my GearVR, so I will have to return it at some point.

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The is a very fair point. Even with say 5 or 10% of the phones out there, we'd expect to see incidents continuing to be reported albeit at a reduced rate. Yet there is no such news, and I like you I would think it would be big news not to be missed by the media. And yet, silence.
That said, I was happy to take the risk anyway, but unfortunately I am not happy to live with a phone that has no updates for 2 years and which doesn't work with my GearVR, so I will have to return it at some point.
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The story with the "thief's" Note7 exploding last week got quite a bit of coverage last week?

Chippy_boy said:
The is a very fair point. Even with say 5 or 10% of the phones out there, we'd expect to see incidents continuing to be reported albeit at a reduced rate. Yet there is no such news, and I like you I would think it would be big news not to be missed by the media. And yet, silence.
That said, I was happy to take the risk anyway, but unfortunately I am not happy to live with a phone that has no updates for 2 years and which doesn't work with my GearVR, so I will have to return it at some point.
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Updates to me are over rated. I always freeze the OTA apk's as soon as I get my phone and root it. Unless there is some huge benefit to upgrading (which I have never seen yet in about 9 years of owning android phones), I just keep my phone how it is once I root and lock in my ROM. Usually I go with a stock based ROM that someone on XDA has made and just stick with that.
As far as the N7, one can root and then from there you can do changes to make the Gear VR work. You can even use an old IMEI from a previous phone you owned and use that on the N7 if you really wanted (from what I have read - I have not done that). So if one really wanted to keep their N7, they could root and then do all of these things and still use it for a long time. I suspect there will be more people than we think who end up doing this and using their N7 until the N8 or similar option is available.
As of now, the N7 is still working 100% as it is supposed to on Verizon for me. I disabled all OTA apk's right away with package disabler, so my phone has never been updated. Unless Verizon and other carriers start blacklisting IMEI's, I will continue to use mine unless and viable option becomes available. I have been close to swapping for an S7 edge, but am going to wait and see what deals come out for it on Black friday and for the holiday season. If the deals are good enough I may yet just take my $100 I get for turning in my N7 and get the discounted S7. I can use that until either the S8 comes out, or even until the N8. I can always give my S7 to my girlfriend (she may be my wife by then) if/when I upgrade. Those are the options I am looking at right now. Happily using my N7 until the decision is either forced upon me or it seems the right time to turn it in and get the S7.

I'm very keen on an S8 though, especially if there's any chance of a 4k screen, which would make some VR experiences simply incredible - not that they are not already.

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Updates to me are over rated. I always freeze the OTA apk's as soon as I get my phone and root it. Unless there is some huge benefit to upgrading (which I have never seen yet in about 9 years of owning android phones), I just keep my phone how it is once I root and lock in my ROM. Usually I go with a stock based ROM that someone on XDA has made and just stick with that.
As far as the N7, one can root and then from there you can do changes to make the Gear VR work. You can even use an old IMEI from a previous phone you owned and use that on the N7 if you really wanted (from what I have read - I have not done that). So if one really wanted to keep their N7, they could root and then do all of these things and still use it for a long time. I suspect there will be more people than we think who end up doing this and using their N7 until the N8 or similar option is available.
As of now, the N7 is still working 100% as it is supposed to on Verizon for me. I disabled all OTA apk's right away with package disabler, so my phone has never been updated. Unless Verizon and other carriers start blacklisting IMEI's, I will continue to use mine unless and viable option becomes available. I have been close to swapping for an S7 edge, but am going to wait and see what deals come out for it on Black friday and for the holiday season. If the deals are good enough I may yet just take my $100 I get for turning in my N7 and get the discounted S7. I can use that until either the S8 comes out, or even until the N8. I can always give my S7 to my girlfriend (she may be my wife by then) if/when I upgrade. Those are the options I am looking at right now. Happily using my N7 until the decision is either forced upon me or it seems the right time to turn it in and get the S7.
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Similar to bow I run Windows 7 in lieu of 10. I don't need "updates". The thing works fine as is, "security updates" are a farce. On Windows 7 I never update and in all of 6 years I have had a "security issue". Ever.

I broke down after they crippled me with the 60% battery, sucks, i didnt want to go back to my s4 which i had for 3.5 years so ordered Note 4 edge from ebay, hope to have it by Monday and also hope nothing wrong with it lol. Plan on atleast using that for the next year til the S8 plus or whatever they want to call the new NOTE is comes out and is SAFELY on the market for a FEW MONTHS before i jump on it lol, not dealing with returning phones again!!

This phone still worth buying in 2017?

Simple question. I asked the same question on another phone I'm interested in, got some good response, am asking it here.
I need a new phone, battery is getting hinky on my HTC One M8 plus the camera is ca-ca and I need a better camera for my job because I have to use the phone's camera quite often.
Out of principle, I simply don't want to spend more than $350 or so for a phone. I toyed with the idea of going over to the dark side with an iPhone, but I'm not going to spend that much money for a phone, I've got other things I need/want to spend money on instead of phones that cost more than some cars I've driven in my life. I'm also too invested in Google's ecosystem and I just prefer Android.
I also need to be on VZW's network. Have toyed with going GSM, I need to stay with Big Red.
Phones within my price range that I'm interested in are an HTC 10 (my last two phones have been HTCs and I've liked them), a Moto X Pure (that's the other phone I asked this question about), a Samsung S7 (all that glass scares me to death, I'm a klutz and the brick-like cases my phones reside in bear that out), Moto G4 Plus or the new Moto G5 Plus (which is having all kinds of issues on the VZW network unless you disable HD calling) — and this one, which really really intrigues me.
I know it's three years old, but I see that there's still a vibrant community supporting it, I've seen people online call it "the best phone Samsung ever made and probably ever will make," and the specs are still righteous compared to newer and flashier phones.
I don't care about new and flashy, my phone is a tool, period, and I need it to work for me.
The Note 4 also apparently is rootable ... I've never owned a non-rooted phone, have never rooted one myself although I've flashed ROMs. (I've got a line on a mint used one running Noble Rom; can anyone tell me about stability of that?)
So after this long-winded drivel, I repeat the question ... this phone still worth buying in 2017?

Depends what you're looking for I guess. If you're looking for a decent phone for around $200, it's decent. Beware the emmc failure error though, these things seem to choke themselves out at either exactly one year or exactly two years after purchase. Not all of them but a large enough percentage that its worth mentioning.
Edit:Also this is anecdotal but I suspect that refurbished note 4s don't have real gorilla glass. I dropped my note 4 easily hundreds of times from around 3 feet, sometimes with some force, with only the s view cover fit a case. The screen never had problems until insurance replaced mine due to failing emmc, then it cracked on the first drop after that.
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Also, if you get it I would use one of the newer note rom TouchWiz ports
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Modtronix said:
Note 4 is very rootable including the V variant many active devs for it. Sprint model here and was an amazon purchase. Been rock solid. Many of the others you mentioned are nice as well. Good luck!
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I think it is as well . great device lotta development and now I saw they go for $149 new . Will it hang with the Note 8.....no of course it won't it is almost 5 yrs old now but it at 149 unlocked its less than 1/8 th the projected price of the note 8 .

There are lots of reasons to love the Note 4. Replaceable battery, holds up to 256GB micro SD, IR support, big bright screen, rootable with Magisk support, great ROMs from anything from nearly stock to basic 7.11 versions. If you like to use your spen, get a Touchwiz ROM.
I bought my first one on the day of release. Since then, I've bought nine more over the years for friends and family. All (except one) has been rooted and are running newer ROMs. The holdout is my daughter who thinks rooting is bad. Kids, you can't teach them anything ... ugh! However, they are difficult (shall I say tricky) to root, it's well worth it. I bought the N7 when it was released. Had it two weeks. Hated the 'edge' because I would pull that out accidentally, or couldn't close with the X because my finger was right on the edge. I was sorta glad to return it. Needless to say, I bought a refurbished N4 on Amazon and several more since then. My neighbors wanted new phones, but didn't want to pay $600+ for them. I talked them into the N4 and set them up. They love them, but don't use half of the features. Newer phones are slimmer, not as wide, but that never bothered me. The only reason I would want a newer model would be for more RAM, however I like having the extra cash in my pocket, so I'm perfectly happy and will continue with the N4 series as long as I can.

Note 4 well worth the money!
I definitely recommend the note 4 it is an amazing phone best phone i have ever had! You will be very happy if you do decide to purchase im rooted and using twrp and custom rom! I also read a article talking about how people have decided to stick with the note 4 instead of upgrading to note 5 or 7 this is because the note 4 was way ahead of its time because of the harware that is used in it. The phone has a very good processor i highly recommend this phone!

i bought an LGV20 this week, thats going to be sold, and the note 4 will continue to be my daily driver...at least until the note 8 comes out

This phone is spectacular. I have 2. Never any problems at all outside of my own rooting quandaries. Only complaint is front facing cam. I'm not into selfies but if I get decent haircut and I want to remember it or just notate something stupid like my teeth for my own personal use, the front facing cam sucks.

prw94 said:
Simple question. I asked the same question on another phone I'm interested in, got some good response, am asking it here.
I need a new phone, battery is getting hinky on my HTC One M8 plus the camera is ca-ca and I need a better camera for my job because I have to use the phone's camera quite often.
Out of principle, I simply don't want to spend more than $350 or so for a phone. I toyed with the idea of going over to the dark side with an iPhone, but I'm not going to spend that much money for a phone, I've got other things I need/want to spend money on instead of phones that cost more than some cars I've driven in my life. I'm also too invested in Google's ecosystem and I just prefer Android.
I also need to be on VZW's network. Have toyed with going GSM, I need to stay with Big Red.
Phones within my price range that I'm interested in are an HTC 10 (my last two phones have been HTCs and I've liked them), a Moto X Pure (that's the other phone I asked this question about), a Samsung S7 (all that glass scares me to death, I'm a klutz and the brick-like cases my phones reside in bear that out), Moto G4 Plus or the new Moto G5 Plus (which is having all kinds of issues on the VZW network unless you disable HD calling) — and this one, which really really intrigues me.
I know it's three years old, but I see that there's still a vibrant community supporting it, I've seen people online call it "the best phone Samsung ever made and probably ever will make," and the specs are still righteous compared to newer and flashier phones.
I don't care about new and flashy, my phone is a tool, period, and I need it to work for me.
The Note 4 also apparently is rootable ... I've never owned a non-rooted phone, have never rooted one myself although I've flashed ROMs. (I've got a line on a mint used one running Noble Rom; can anyone tell me about stability of that?)
So after this long-winded drivel, I repeat the question ... this phone still worth buying in 2017?
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I got my Verizon Note 4 about 2.5 years ago and I still like it a lot. I did have the failing motherboard problem, but Samsung fixed it completely for only $70. It's working great now and I'm hoping to keep using the phone for at least another two years.
So, yes, I would certainly consider buying another Note 4 today. The only caution I would take is to make sure I bought a brand new one. Otherwise you are likely going to be buying someone else's phone with a failing, or soon to be failing, motherboard. Perhaps a phone that has been refurbished by a very reputable company could be acceptable (e.g., from Samsung, or Verizon), but I would want to make sure it has a very good warranty (preferably much longer than 90 days). I definitely would not buy a used phone that is being sold as-is (even if the buyer claims it works fine).
I have seen new Note 4 phones advertised on Amazon for about $300. Refurbished phones seem to be going for about $200 (but I think the extra $100 is well worth the cost for a new phone).
I've never rooted my Note 4. It sounds like versions from some carriers are easier to root than others. If you are on Verizon it sounds like it may be rootable, but it is more difficult. I would read the Verizon specific threads on rooting the Note 4 if you intend to buy a phone specifically for rooting. Personally I really don't feel the need to root the phone. For me it works fine (although I do use a custom launcher so I can customize the look and feel). I also disable any bloatware that I never use. Unfortunately you can't completely remove the bloatware without root.

The Note 4 is still an amazing phone whether you want to use it stock and unrooted or whether you want to root and flash roms. Be advised tho this particular model is a pain in the rea to roo but keep at it and you'll get it done no problem.

Personally? I can't find a phone to replace it. For me, I'm network flexible, and I've considered a V20 on TMO, but honestly I can't find a reason to switch. Rarely if ever do I feel like I need more ram, and that's basically the only significant feature that the v20 would pose for an upgrade. And I'd miss EVERYTHING ELSE about the samsung. Reasons to buy it? Cheap, plenty of power left in the processor/ram category IMO, REMOVEABLE BATTERY (this is something I can't stress enough for me personally. And I can not stand that newer models don't have it.) IR support (why would they get rid of this, why?! why?!?!) and its TWRP/root capable. Again, something I can hardly stand to live without. My phone is ad blocked, xposed, etc... I'll be eating out and I'll start changing TV volumes and my friends just get this WTF look on their face... And I can't find a newer phone to beat it, that has all the same features, and can still be TWRP. My opinion? Yeah, it IS the best phone, and maybe the last GOOD phone samsung ever made. I know there's tradeoff arguments to be made. But they'll drag me to the grave with my note 4. No way I'll be switching until the last boat leaves the dock, and the phone simply can't function in society any more. Hopefully by then, there will once again be another option with removeable battery, IR, TWRP.... but we can only hope.

For what its worth, I switched from a note 4 to the v20. I miss the stylus occasionally but there's a solution for screen writing included with the phone. I like the v20 more
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I've had mine since about 6 months after release. It was a decent phone when it was still locked, but once we got root, it became a phenomenal device. I've been eligible for upgrade for over a year, but I haven't seen a new phone I'm willing to replace it with. Getting hard to find removable batteries and SD cards. I'm curious about the upcoming Pixel 2, but mostly I'm just hoping my phone will last forever.
At this point, if it dies, I'll probably hunt down another Note 4.

I think the note 4 has been a decent phone. I purchased mine new in 2015. It's always had a really poor camera that dosent auto focus without shaking it repeatedly (common issue). It's also had a round of boot looping, which could only be corrected with a factory reset. After boot looping and other random crashing issues where it suddenly powers off. I've decided to move to an LG v20. P. S. You can buy a brand new note 5 for 259.

For fun, thought I'd drop in now that 2018 is looming.
I love my Note 4 (T-Mobile). I'm a flashaholic, and there's plenty out there (though my ext sd card makes Marshmallow roms my preference, since Nougat keeps wanting to reformat the 128g sd I have in this thing!).
I've flashed a few dozen different roms on this thing and it doesn't mind at all. Bought it used off ebay (I didn't know about the emm memory mess back then, which would have given me some pause even if ebay does favor the buyer). But it runs perfectly for me. I use a rubber case because I'm paranoid.
Reasons I really like this phone?
1. big screen.
2. durable.
3. REMOVABLE battery.
4. External SD card slot (at least 128g works just fine, maybe even more?)
Reasons to not go with it?
1. Ya gotta have the newest and shiniest.
2. Small but real possibility you'll run into the emmc memory issue (if you do, get your money back from whoever sold the phone to you and/or chuck it in the trash - game over).

I love the Note 4 and was thinking about rooting it. It's the longest I've ever had a phone. Been about 3 years now and it still runs strong for daily use. Most people don't even use a phone for its full potential. It's a tool for their social media, snapping a few pics, browsing the web, paying some bills (which we all hate), getting directions, etc. As a daily driver, it's been great and I can't find a reason to upgrade to a flashier new phone for $800 plus. I'm the type that if it still works well, then there's no point in replacing it. It still performs as well as middle of the pack models even 4 years after it's release. And the 515ppi 5.7" screen with 2k quality doesn't make the phone feel dated at all. Only the style of the phone feels dated but most of us have a case on it anyway. So hopefully with a new 3220mah battery and a root, this phone will last me a little longer since it still does what I tell it to and with T-Mobile LTE, which is nearly 2 times faster than Sprint, and WiFi through Verizon Fios keeps it snappy and feeling smooth.

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