How much bloat ware? approx % or Mb - Redmi Note 8 Pro Questions & Answers

How much uninstallable apps on Xiaomi?
I've read sbout Xiaomi bloat ware.
I'm considering a Note 8 purchase because of extremely attractive prices now. The 4gb RAM would be a dream but how much is taken up with this alleged unremovable 'bloatware'? Asking for approximate RAM percentage or approximate megabytes (not seeking vague 'a lot' etc).

Maybe not the answer you wanted, but I bought yesterday Xiaomi Redmi Note 8T.
You can turn on Developer Options, turn on USB Debugging.
Run this Java app: https://github.com/Szaki/XiaomiADBFastbootTools/releases/tag/6.8.1
Connect your phone with computer and allow ADB connection.
After that you can select which apps you don't need and simply uninstall them. Be careful, read which app is safe to be removed.

Follow this thread. It's easy to remove bloatware. Asking for sizes is irrelevant, it depends how many you will remove. It's not just Xiaomi, it's a lot of Google stuff you can safely remove too. To be honest, debloating won't save you that much ram, except for diskspace on root folder. Simply stop running background processes will save you a lot more.

There's a lot. I could say i removed around 15 to 20 apps through szaki's adb tools back when i was running stock. But some of it isn't recommended to be removed.
Try your luck with a custom rom. You won't regret it.

aca_coa said:
Maybe not the answer you wanted, but I bought yesterday Xiaomi Redmi Note 8T.
You can turn on Developer Options, turn on USB Debugging.
Run this Java app:
After that you can select which apps you don't need and simply uninstall them. Be careful, read which app is safe to be removed.
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Thank you so much for this very helpful info! Will grab one of these handsets & use this method happily :good:

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remove bloatware?

Please can someone help me and explain to a newbie the best way to remove the bloat ware and the why and how of freezing apps, because of all your help I have decided to invest in the tab s instead of the note 10.1 2014.
and also can u still use 4 way multiwindow & floating multiwindow on the tab s
i thank u all for your time:good:
This topic has been brought up so many times it's ridiculously shameful of Samsung to continue practising this when consumer consensus shows that everyone hates bloatware. Even Samsung's homeland Korea sued the company for preinstalling bloatware that can't be uninstalled and they've won. Americans should do the same fight back.
Anyhow, the only way you can completely remove the bloatware is to root your device first and delete them manually. The 2nd alternative without rooting is to disable the app and if that can't be done the only thing is to hide them. Disabling or hiding is still obtrusive because it's still taking up memory and may still be running in the background.
The 12.2" pro can do 4 windows multitasking. So far this 10.5 can only do 2 windows at at time.
which apps are regarded as bloat?
NixxonExxo said:
This topic has been brought up so many times it's ridiculously shameful of Samsung to continue practising this when consumer consensus shows that everyone hates bloatware. Even Samsung's homeland Korea sued the company for preinstalling bloatware that can't be uninstalled and they've won. Americans should do the same fight back.
Anyhow, the only way you can completely remove the bloatware is to root your device first and delete them manually. The 2nd alternative without rooting is to disable the app and if that can't be done the only thing is to hide them. Disabling or hiding is still obtrusive because it's still taking up memory and may still be running in the background.
The 12.2" pro can do 4 windows multitasking. So far this 10.5 can only do 2 windows at at time.
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Pretty sure if you disable them they don't run anymore. But not all apps can be disabled without root.
Anyway, without the ability to resize the partitions, deleting them doesn't give us back any device memory. So root and use Titanium Backup to freeze those unneeded crap.
Of course, some brave soul who can figure out what crap can be frozen safely will also help.

Debloating Script for Lollipop N900TUVUFOB6

** DISCLAIMER: I AM NOT A DEVELOPER. I DO THIS AS A HOBBY AND SHARE MY FINDINGS IN CASE SOMEONE ELSE FINDS THEM USEFUL. **
** THIS WORKED ON MY DEVICE BUT IT MAY NOT WORK ON YOURS. APPLY AT YOUR OWN RISK **​
Background
This script is written for the sole purpose of reducing the power consumption of Android 5.0 update for T-Mobile Note 3. A lot more can be removed from the system but that will not make a significant contribution to power.
The debloat script does not really remove anything; it only disables the apps. You can always run the enbloat script to revert it.
THIS SCRIPT IS FOR LOLLIPOP ONLY. WILL NOT WORK ON OTHER ANDROID FLAVORS.
What this script does
Please read below and understand what this script does before you use it. There may be an app on the list that you may actually want to keep.
Removes: FOTA, update, and security vehicles.
Because: these vehicles push "Security Updates" onto the device. If you make the mistake of accepting this security update, even after you root your tablet, it can patch the hole and you will never be able to use the same exploit to root again.
Removes: Google apps including Gmail and Google sync apps except for Maps, Youtube, Chrome, and Voice Search.
Because: Google apps do a lot of bookkeeping, locationing, and internet access in the background with very little benefit to the user, while consuming a lot of power. If you use Gmail my suggestion is to use the default Email program since it allows a better management of the sync schedule and consumes less battery (and a few other good things). Note that this can severely limit your access to Play Store so either install all store apps you need before debloating or use sideloading to install them after
Removes: Knox
Because: I am yet to meet a single person who likes this nightmare of an app.
Removes: Tmobile stuff except for Voice mail and hotspot
Because: Tmobile bloat does too much activity in the background. In particular, Lookout scans your device constantly to no obvious advantage.
Removes: Backup/cloud agents
Because: Most advanced users backup their data through other means
Removes: Remote control and tracking mechanisms
Because: If you are reading this you most likely don't want your device to be remotely tracked or controlled by Samsung
Removes: ANT services, health, INDI (v2), secgba (v2), Peel (v2)
Because: They run in the background and use the radio.
Removes: Weather (unified) daemon
Because: Major battery hog
Removes: Chat ON, Gear Manager Stub, Bloomberg
Because: Not particularly useful and can be installed from the market if needed
Removes: Enterprise and VPN tools
Because: Most users don't use them
And since someone will ask at some point, no, this script won't trip your Knox!
Requirements:
Rooted Samsung Note 3 SM-N900T (T-mobile model) on Lollipop N900TUVUFOB6. See this thread.
Android Terminal Emulator: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jackpal.androidterm&hl=en
Download link:
Attached below
Instructions:
Make a backup of your files/system. Also have a flashable Odin ROM handy to recover from possible disasters. I am not responsible if you brick your device while using these scripts.
To debloat:
1- Unzip the attachment and copy debloat.sh to your phone at /sdcard
2- Run the terminal emulator and type the following:
su
cd /sdcard
sh debloat.sh​3- It will do its thing and reboot your phone in about 5 seconds.
To restore the bloatware:
1- Unzip the attachment and copy enbloat.sh to your phone at /sdcard
2- Run the terminal emulator and type the following:
su
cd /sdcard
sh enbloat.sh​3- It will do its thing and reboot your phone in about 5 seconds. You have all your bloat back now.
Note that while running the debloat script you may get force-closing popups. This is normal; after all you are disabling these applications.
Limitations:
If you have previously removed bloat using other means this script CANNOT recover it for you. enbloat.sh can only restore what debloat.sh has disabled.
Final Notes
With this script you should be able to get anywhere between 0.25 to 1 percent discharge per hour in standby mode. Your awake time should also be around 1-3%. You will still find that Google Services will wake up and use GPS every time you unlock your phone. To get even better battery performance turn your GPS off when you are not using it
This should be sufficient for 99% of people. After you apply this script, if you still want more try this: Disable Phonesky, google play services, Google framework, and stock YouTube by renaming their apks (not the directory they are in but the apks themselves) to .apk.bac, reboot, and install an older version of youtube that does not need Google Services, such as 5.1.10. Note that this drastic removal of Google services will make assisted GPS very slow in Google Maps. If you don't understand what that means it is best to stick with the debloat script and not mess with your system.
Regardless of whether you end up using this code or not, my suggestion to you is to go to Settings -> General -> Security -> Security Policy Updates -> untick Automatic Updates.
Update
Version 2 removes more background processes. If you have already used version 1 to debloat, I recommend that you use version 1 to restore the bloat and then use version 2 to debloat again.
Thanks for contributing your work!
Frank
411y0ur8453 said:
See above/
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Anyways, we don't need a big long debate about it. I am just saying there needs to be a little more objective evidence for this, especially when the logic and reason at the beginning of the OP doesn't match the logic and reasoning in the list of applications being removed.
And the knox app is embedded deep into the device's core framework, simply removing the app is doing very little to remove it in it's entirety.
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This is true. Knox is embedded deep into the system even bootloader removing the app will do close to nothing. Not putting down the work put into the script as it is indeed a time saver if you have spend a little time with Android. If not they can be turned off manually. As for the security holes. There will always be a way to root and mod. Oems have that to themselves. Take a look at our brethren over with verizon and att. Their devices are locked down tight and came like that out of the manufacturer. Our devices are unlocked boot loader wise. If they wanted to they would have locked our models too.
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Please avoid wandering into the philosophical world ........
Remember this ••• If you root the phone or customize it ••• then forget about security or other updates that come from the carrier or the manufacturer ......... by default you have agreed to abandon those updates ...... if they are important to you then, do not root and stay stock....... EASY
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Also a very good point...:good:
Meh... A lot of the time, removing and freezing apps can be counter productive.
For example,mpdecision, which controls when cores come online, has calls to it embedded into Samsung's camera apk, and removing or renaming this file can negatively impact battery life when using the camera application because a lot of the time, oems don't build checks into their software. They simply expect the file to be present, and when it's not, it can create a loop and drain battery.
Unless you've gone through the entire system to look for references to the apps you're removing, it's best to simply freeze or leave them alone.
freeza said:
Meh... A lot of the time, removing and freezing apps can be counter productive.
For example,mpdecision, which controls when cores come online, has calls to it embedded into Samsung's camera apk, and removing or renaming this file can negatively impact battery life when using the camera application because a lot of the time, oems don't build checks into their software. They simply expect the file to be present, and when it's not, it can create a loop and drain battery.
Unless you've gone through the entire system to look for references to the apps you're removing, it's best to simply freeze or leave them alone.
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You are right about the mpdecision process and it makes common sense to not remove a process like that. The same can be said about different timers and alarm processes in the system and the list goes on.
Having said that, I would be more than happy to explain how each item on this list contributes to saving power or protects the system from being subjected to unwanted patches without compromising the integrity of it.
And finally, I have been already using this setup (even a more aggressive version of it) for a few days on my phone with excellent power results and not a single hiccup or force closed app. I have also constantly monitored the wake locks and background processes to make sure the situation you referred to does not occur. I would be glad to hear your feedback if you use it and find a different outcome.
Op, can you share me one with Gapps and debloating all stuffs which are not necessary (TMO Services),if you live away from US of A? It would be much helpful for people like me.
jhbalaji said:
Op, can you share me one with Gapps and debloating all stuffs which are not necessary (TMO Services),if you live away from US of A? It would be much helpful for people like me.
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There is a lot that can be taken out but every piece removes a bit of functionality with it. If you live abroad it is understandable to remove all TMO stuff but, for example, if you remove more Google stuff than this script does YouTube will stop working and maps becomes slower. Also, there are services like printers or widgets like flipboard etc that you may still want to keep. So to what extent do you want to debloat your system?
I had already debloated several apps but thought this could help a bit more with the battery. So far I haven't had any issues, crashes, etc.
Thanks for sharing.
Update: It causes Milk Music to not work.
dirtybudha said:
I had already debloated several apps but thought this could help a bit more with the battery. So far I haven't had any issues, crashes, etc.
Thanks for sharing.
Update: It causes Milk Music to not work.
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What is milk music? I don't have that app. Do you mean google music? Oh, you mean the one from the play store?
OK, Milk music is a samsung app. It needs the samsung account apps that are some of the things that this script disables. If you need your milk music back, run the enbloat script and you will have it back.
Yeah, I followed the instructions which were UBER easy. Thanks for that.
I figured it was related to that.
najoor said:
What is milk music? I don't have that app. Do you mean google music? Oh, you mean the one from the play store?
OK, Milk music is a samsung app. It needs the samsung account apps that are some of the things that this script disables. If you need your milk music back, run the enbloat script and you will have it back.
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Here is an example of how debloating can be beneficial. On an unmodified phone I set the brightness to about 50 percent and let the phone play a 720p video in a loop. I could get 10 hours of screen time. However if you look closely, Lookout has been busy in the background burning 13% of the battery. So if I had disabled it I would have arguably got another hour of screen time.
I love this scipt! As a laymen, all I have to do is import it via Rom Toolbox (Pro) to the sciprter--then execute. My device runs at least twice as well as before.
Thanks, OP!
cant wait to try this out
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List of Samsung Bloatware that can be safely disabled on the Note 7?

Hey Guys,
I currently have the international (N9300) version of the Note 7. Luckily I don't have any carrier bloatware to worry about.
But I was wondering if anyone has a list? Or could share a screen shot of what SAMSUNG BLOATWARE they have disabled with Package Disabler without having any problems?
My main goal would be to speed up performance / increase batter lift by disabling un-needed stuff from running in the BG. Just dont want to accidentally disable something that will screw up my phone, or get me stuck in a boot loop etc.
Thanks!
Is there any evidence that bloatware (whether from the manufacturer or the carrier) has any noticeable effect on performance? If not, de-bloating seems like a lot of trouble to go to for no real benefit.
Gary02468 said:
Is there any evidence that bloatware (whether from the manufacturer or the carrier) has any noticeable effect on performance? If not, de-bloating seems like a lot of trouble to go to for no real benefit.
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I think it made a difference in earlier versions of the Samsung phones. In the past, I would aggressively debloating my phones. With the modern versions, and OS features for shutting down apps that are not in use, including Touchwiz's aggressive RAM management, I don't think debloating has a noticeable effect. I disable any unused apps to get rid of visual clutter, I don't go beyond that. YMMV
GeorgeP said:
I think it made a difference in earlier versions of the Samsung phones.
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Yup, there was a time when debloating helped.
With the modern versions, and OS features for shutting down apps that are not in use, including Touchwiz's aggressive RAM management, I don't think debloating has a noticeable effect. I disable any unused apps to get rid of visual clutter, I don't go beyond that.
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Just curious--what visual clutter do you mean? In the apps drawer?
You also get bothered with update messages for apps that you don't use. Much better to turn them off.
Better to rid yourself of them. Some of them use data in the background even when you have never opened them, all of them burn bandwidth updating, some will send unwanted notifications, some have various reporting you might not want going on, some will light off location burning battery.
The old saying is if you don't use it, lose it. It still applies.
I like to remove system apps that I don't use like email or attn and other stuff... package disabler pro is a good app but paid... you can connect your phone to a pc and use debloater that can be found here in xda
Thanks for all the replies! But can someone please post a list of what they feel is good to be disabled?
Gary02468 said:
Just curious--what visual clutter do you mean? In the apps drawer?
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Yes. Primarily the apps drawer.
phame said:
Thanks for all the replies! But can someone please post a list of what they feel is good to be disabled?
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Agreed although I recalled mine when I get it back would be nice to know what is safe for the note 7 as most auto de bloater apps disable stuff that you don't want disabled. Would be good to have a proper list of all known safe bloatware and small description of each.

List of Samsung apps to disable

Is there a list of all the Samsung apps/services, preferably with descriptions of what they're for, that can be disabled (via ADB , Package Disabler, etc) on the Note 10+? This is my first Samsung device since the S4, and I feel like there's so much bloat.
Thanks!
tallymatty said:
Is there a list of all the Samsung apps/services, preferably with descriptions of what they're for, that can be disabled (via ADB , Package Disabler, etc) on the Note 10+? This is my first Samsung device since the S4, and I feel like there's so much bloat.
Thanks!
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This might be a dumb question, but since we have 12gb of RAM does this really matter anymore?
BigMosley said:
This might be a dumb question, but since we have 12gb of RAM does this really matter anymore?
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Of course it does for battery ussage, since any active program in RAM can wake up at any time for any reason. I get offers, msgs etc from programs I haven't used for days, so they run in background. As far as the list goes, that is not as easy as it sounds: I don't use Facebook, Bixby, Tweeter etc. so I disable them first, people who use those programs on the daily basis would call me heretic and then there is bloatware specific to specific carriers or regions. BTW I have not used my phone today at all, except short phone call and quick look at map and my phone is using 6GB of RAM, if I load couple big games, few websites and my RAM would be full and swapping into storage. Like money, Gigabyte is not what it used be
XDA-Developers pages provide a plethora of useful information about that too:
e.g.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s10/how-to/galaxy-s10-s10-debloat-bloatware-t3912073
Yeah, I second this request. It would be nice to have a list of specific bloat to remove from note 10 plus, specifically for using the ccswe app.
anyone who has used that app specifically if you have a list of the apps you disabled I'd love a list or suggestions
mzsquared said:
XDA-Developers pages provide a plethora of useful information about that too:
e.g.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s10/how-to/galaxy-s10-s10-debloat-bloatware-t3912073
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Thanks for this! It is a good start. I hadn't thought about going to check the S10 forums.

Is rooting Worth it?

Hello everyone,
So is rooting Worth it or should i wait for a while?
Not nearly as important today as years ago when OEM firmware was buggy, laggy and without many features. Nowadays, most of the features we used to root our roms for are built in to stock roms and with as much ram as we have in phones, lagginess no longer seems to be much of an issue.
I was going to wait to root, but getting ads on my phone was a deal breaker. I need a good root-level ad-blocker.
Berner said:
I was going to wait to root, but getting ads on my phone was a deal breaker. I need a good root-level ad-blocker.
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You don't get ads if you opt out of them during setup.
dns.adguard.com
put this as dns in wireless setting.
Currently I have two reasons to flash
To access auxiliary cameras in gcam we need root
And also to use substratum themes we need root.
But since there is no straight way of rooting as in no official twrp support for now ..I will do it later . I can probably do without the above two things
Berner said:
I was going to wait to root, but getting ads on my phone was a deal breaker. I need a good root-level ad-blocker.
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adgaurd is doing good for me so far
Here I briefly provided the device with root, this to restore my apps via swift backup. Then flashed full OTA and back on original boot.img.
I have had root for a while but have not used it a lot, if you want to remove system / apps or something it will not work, thank you Google for this. As long as it is not possible to mount, root is useless for me.
Really it depends on what you want to do /achieve.
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Personally I don't feel it's worth it, given the potential of creating other problems, having to fix boot loops, and generally falling into a rabbit hole vortex which has nothing to do with the everyday life in front of me ?
In short, yes, mainly because you can get back some of the Google apps. The OnePlus phone dialer app is terrible. If you're rude, you can get the Google one. Also you have easier access to Google feed
Lossyx said:
Really it depends on what you want to do /achieve.
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That is absolutely true, but virtually most of the things one can gain nowadays are rather minimal gains. Nowadays, with phones having 6,8 and even 12 GBs of ram and better optimized stock roms, they generally run smoother than third party roms. Ten years ago, that wasn't the case. Stock roms didn't have many of the features I wanted and the only way to get them was in adding them to third party roms, like AOSP. Now, many of those features are already baked into Android and overall development is down.
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Cowbell_Guy said:
In short, yes, mainly because you can get back some of the Google apps. The OnePlus phone dialer app is terrible. If you're rude, you can get the Google one. Also you have easier access to Google feed
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Don't have to be rooted to get Google feed. Many launchers have it, such as pixel launcher, nova, cpl, lawnchair and others. Also the google phone dialer can be added via apk. No root needed.
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That is absolutely true, but virtually most of the things one can gain nowadays are rather minimal gains. Nowadays, with phones having 6,8 and even 12 GBs of ram and better optimized stock roms, they generally run smoother than third party roms. Ten years ago, that wasn't the case. Stock roms didn't have many of the features I wanted and the only way to get them was in adding them to third party roms, like AOSP. Now, many of those features are already baked into Android and overall development is down.
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Don't have to be rooted to get Google feed. Many launchers have it, such as pixel launcher, nova, cpl, lawnchair and others. Also the google phone dialer can be added via apk. No root needed.
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I agree with everything you said. But it's mostly not about making tweaks to get better performance nowadays.
For me, the biggest reason I root is because of Viper4android.
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Upside:
As of now:
Adblocking, Freezing apps, accessing system files, proper backups and restore, easier/more Tasker capabilities, proper substratum, "better" YouTube vanced, working gcam aux, custom kernels and kernel tweaks such as minimum brightness, oh, and did I say adblocking?
In the future:
Twrp, custom ROMs, probably a fix/mod for the goddamn ****ty default camera, you name it...
Downside:
Some reading about how to root
Actually rooting (unlocking bootloader needing a data wipe)
Remembering not to reboot before applying root again after ota system updates (and having to download full size every time)
Some extra settings/work needed to hide root from bank apps
Worth the extra hassle? absolutely freaking yea.
My device, my control?
Eddiemc said:
Upside:
As of now:
Adblocking, Freezing apps, accessing system files, proper backups and restore, easier/more Tasker capabilities, proper substratum, "better" YouTube vanced, working gcam aux, custom kernels and kernel tweaks such as minimum brightness, oh, and did I say adblocking?
In the future:
Twrp, custom ROMs, probably a fix/mod for the goddamn ****ty default camera, you name it...
Downside:
Some reading about how to root
Actually rooting (unlocking bootloader needing a data wipe)
Remembering not to reboot before applying root again after ota system updates (and having to download full size every time)
Some extra settings/work needed to hide root from bank apps
Worth the extra hassle? absolutely freaking yea.
My device, my control
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Everything you say is true, but you can achieve virtually all those things without root nowadays. Most major OEMs offer proper backup and restore software, no need for substratum as themeing (dark mode) is already built in to 10, all apps can be disabled with adb commands and many stock OS's also offer a ability to disable and uninstall many of them. Ad blocking can also be done to varying degrees with out root and most ROMs today are actually smoother and faster because of better optimization nowadays and lots more RAM and storage. These things were extremely important in the day when most phones operated with 2 GB ram and 16 GB storage, but things are way different now, so it is not as critical anymore.
jim262 said:
Everything you say is true, but you can achieve virtually all those things without root nowadays. Most major OEMs offer proper backup and restore software, no need for substratum as themeing (dark mode) is already built in to 10, all apps can be disabled with adb commands and many stock OS's also offer a ability to disable and uninstall many of them. Ad blocking can also be done to varying degrees with out root and most ROMs today are actually smoother and faster because of better optimization nowadays and lots more RAM and storage. These things were extremely important in the day when most phones operated with 2 GB ram and 16 GB storage, but things are way different now, so it is not as critical anymore.
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The question is "is rootiong worth it" not "should you do it" or "what was it like in the past." Please try to stay on topic.
"Most major OEMs offer proper backup and restore software." Not all do and most of the apps are abysmally lacking in features.
"no need for substratum as themeing (dark mode) is already built in to 10." Yeah not even close buddy.
"all apps can be disabled with adb commands and many stock OS's also offer a ability to disable and uninstall many of them." Having to connect my phone to a computer with adb installed and learn complicated commands or downloading an app and clicking uninstall/disable...
"Ad blocking can also be done to varying degrees with out root" You get much better adblocking with root and much more controll over your hosts file among other features.
Discussing is root worth it here on XDA is really ironic and shows what this site has become.
^^ How do I back up application ________'s data? I don't update apps daily/weekly, usually quarterly or less. Will take a backup (titaniumbackup) first before doing updating so I can revert back if there issues.
Google backup still is not 100% reliable. How else can the above be done on an unrooted device?
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The question is "is rootiong worth it" not "should you do it" or "what was it like in the past." Please try to stay on topic.
"Most major OEMs offer proper backup and restore software." Not all do and most of the apps are abysmally lacking in features.
"no need for substratum as themeing (dark mode) is already built in to 10." Yeah not even close buddy.
"all apps can be disabled with adb commands and many stock OS's also offer a ability to disable and uninstall many of them." Having to connect my phone to a computer with adb installed and learn complicated commands or downloading an app and clicking uninstall/disable...
"Ad blocking can also be done to varying degrees with out root" You get much better adblocking with root and much more controll over your hosts file among other features.
Discussing is root worth it here on XDA is really ironic and shows what this site has become.
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"all apps can be disabled with adb commands and many stock OS's also offer a ability to disable and uninstall many of them." Having to connect my phone to a computer with adb installed and learn complicated commands or downloading an app and clicking uninstall/disable... Is that any harder than having to root your phone by connecting your phone to a computer also and use adb commands? As far as themeing goes, I can fully theme my phone on my Vivo Nex, Google Pixel, Samsung S10 and Note10, OnePlus, Xiaomi, Redmi and Huawei phones. Not sure which phones your using, you can theme all these phones. Dark mode can easily be enabled in Android 10 and OnePlus has offered a system wide Dark Mode UI for years and with Google now embracing it, virtually all Google apps can turn dark as well. Gmail, Play Store, You Tube, Photos, etc ... all dark.
jim262 said:
"all apps can be disabled with adb commands and many stock OS's also offer a ability to disable and uninstall many of them." Having to connect my phone to a computer with adb installed and learn complicated commands or downloading an app and clicking uninstall/disable... Is that any harder than having to root your phone by connecting your phone to a computer also and use adb commands? As far as themeing goes, I can fully theme my phone on my Vivo Nex, Google Pixel, Samsung S10 and Note10, OnePlus, Xiaomi, Redmi and Huawei phones. Not sure which phones your using, you can theme all these phones. Dark mode can easily be enabled in Android 10 and OnePlus has offered a system wide Dark Mode UI for years and with Google now embracing it, virtually all Google apps can turn dark as well. Gmail, Play Store, You Tube, Photos, etc ... all dark.
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The dark theme you are talking about man doesnt compare to what swift installer or substratum can achieve at the moment. There is a reason why we are still using these apps even when windows 10 has a dark mode. You might be comfortable with it but some of us are not. I like my phone fully black with a proper adblock , viper4arise to make my earphones sound even better, now i have instagram mod called instaperfs can download pics from the gram. The amount of stuff i can achieve with root a lot. So yeah rooting is still way worth it. Banking apps just need to be hidden in magisk and you are good to go
Adaway is a long time fav

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