Color tone changes when switching to 120hz - Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions &

Anyone else notice this?
Plus, is there a color mode somewhere in between "normal" and "vivid"? Like a nice middle ground?

Yes, I noticed this as well. The 120hz version seems to look a tad warmer.

Yes colour tone changes a bit.
120hz + vivid looks balanced.
60hz + vivid is too bright
120hz + natural is too dull

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brightness is contrast? its weird

Something odd iv noticed , when i turn up the brightness.. it does not feel like the brightness is being turned up it feels like extreme contrast the colors get deeper and the whites are just painfull to see(too bright).. sure the colors look great but it seems wrong while playing games as if im lacking gamma.
Iv tried changing screen mode it doesnt help too much, everything seems too dark in games (compared too xpeira z ultra and ipad mini retina)with glaring white contrast and unnaturally deep colors. (iv used amoled on the s4 so its not the saturation thats bothering me)
nielo360 said:
Something odd iv noticed , when i turn up the brightness.. it does not feel like the brightness is being turned up it feels like extreme contrast the colors get deeper and the whites are just painfull to see(too bright).. sure the colors look great but it seems wrong while playing games as if im lacking gamma.
Iv tried changing screen mode it doesnt help too much, everything seems too dark in games (compared too xpeira z ultra and ipad mini retina)with glaring white contrast and unnaturally deep colors. (iv used amoled on the s4 so its not the saturation thats bothering me)
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This sounds very weird, mine has much better brightness than the ipad. Sounds faulty to me, my one all the colours just get brighter as you would expect.
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Its bright just that black looks tinted whith shades of white as in blacks look gray if turn up the brightness, cant change it i bought it in bangkok.. still a great screen.
Might be light bleed around the edges of your screen
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nielo360 said:
Something odd iv noticed , when i turn up the brightness.. it does not feel like the brightness is being turned up it feels like extreme contrast the colors get deeper and the whites are just painfull to see(too bright).. sure the colors look great but it seems wrong while playing games as if im lacking gamma.
Iv tried changing screen mode it doesnt help too much, everything seems too dark in games (compared too xpeira z ultra and ipad mini retina)with glaring white contrast and unnaturally deep colors. (iv used amoled on the s4 so its not the saturation thats bothering me)
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im experenceing the same, if i turn up the brightness it starts look look washed out. it is as you said, its like its playing with the contrast. its more noticable when playing a video that has dark scenes in it, blacks start to look dark grey
more users on a thread in the general section have noticed this, as some have pointed its an issue with the gamma not being calibrated properly and samsung using a non traditional method of back lighting as per anandtechs review.
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more users on a thread in the general section have noticed this, as some have pointed its an issue with the gamma not being calibrated properly and samsung using a non traditional method of back lighting as per anandtechs review.
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I read that the screen has a white pixel next to the rgb pixels. Could it be be the white pixel is used for brightness and now results in a black screen looking grey? Haven't noticed it being a problem as I set it on auto.
racy jace said:
I read that the screen has a white pixel next to the rgb pixels. Could it be be the white pixel is used for brightness and now results in a black screen looking grey? Haven't noticed it being a problem as I set it on auto.
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yes that could be it, i only notice it in a dark environment, however its not an ideal way to do brightness. Auto does not work for me at all its always too dim.

Color saturation & accuracy

If you're colorblind, please disregard this thread. Rate this thread to express how you deem the color saturation and accuracy of the OnePlus 3T's display. A higher rating indicates that you think that color accuracy is very high and saturation is excellent.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
s-RGB mode is great, except for the white balance, it's a tad too warm/yellow.
Want to share my screen settings, I personally love AMOLED colors but I hate yellowish tint, so I tuned it up a bit to get cold white:
1. Install Kernel Adiutor.
2. Go to Screen section.
3. Red 205, Green 225, Blue 256 (default).
4. Save.
That's it. Keep in mind that this is completely personal choice.
jowaii89 said:
s-RGB mode is great, except for the white balance, it's a tad too warm/yellow.
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sRGB is supposed to be like that, though. I also find the warmer screen easier on the eyes in bed.
Defferex said:
Want to share my screen settings, I personally love AMOLED colors but I hate yellowish tint, so I tuned it up a bit to get cold white:
1. Install Kernel Adiutor.
2. Go to Screen section.
3. Red 205, Green 225, Blue 256 (default).
4. Save.
That's it. Keep in mind that this is completely personal choice.
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Problem with that is really each screen is different, whereas the sRGB calibration is the same for every display, as far as I know.
I only use the sRGB mode as i hate oversaturated colours and always prefer colour accuracy in all circumstances. As mentioned above the colour temp is a bit off, but overall the sRGB mode is the lesser of all evils. Is it just me or do the colours pop a little more in sRGB since the Nougat update? Before the update i felt the colours were a little under-saturated but i'm happy with it now.
How people can live with the disgusting neon AMOLED colour space is beyond me.
Screen is a downgrade. Very strong yellowish tint. Not happy at all.
I use Official RR and there is option for screen color in %. What to do for it ? How to Calibrate it ? Thanks in andvance.
Aman Amrit said:
I use Official RR and there is option for screen color in %. What to do for it ? How to Calibrate it ? Thanks in andvance.
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custom kernel
nitinvaid said:
custom kernel
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Thanks.
But Which kernel btw ? Official RR comes with custom kernel build in. So which one is supported ?
yes screen color saturation is a failure when we recognize it and also we saw some yellowish
SRGB is a bit yellow anyway.
MattBooth said:
SRGB is a bit yellow anyway.
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For everyone using sRGB just modify rgb values and set green to 248 and red to 249. You'll love it
Would it be weird to say I like the saturation of the default colors
Me too. I like stock. One day when i will root the device maybe i will change but i like very much default colours
One of the best 1080p AMOLED displays that I've used. Of course, it isn't as impressive as the QHD Samsung panels though not really far off. The whites on my display seem good to my eyes. I can easily notice the yellowish warm whites on AMOLED screens but I don't seem to notice anything like that on my unit. My unit luckily has good whites (not too warm/cold) and no pink or green tint.
Though I've been an AMOLED fan for years, this my first phone with an AMOLED display. The colors do seem a bit too saturated at times but it is a gorgeous display. The sRGB mode is nice for when you need color accuracy but it is just too washed out for my taste.
Only real "defect" in this display is the purple ghosting effect which can be observed while scrolling grey elements on black backgrounds in low brightness but this issue is inherent to AMOLED and I've seen it on all AMOLED devices I've laid my eyes on.
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Can the color be optimized to look accurate like an ips display with elemental or franco kernel ?
sherlock_holmes said:
Can the color be optimized to look accurate like an ips display with elemental or franco kernel ?
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Both kernels supports color control and works the same so either can produce accurate colors, you just need to know the proper color values settings
here's the best profile by far:
saturation intensity = 33
screen value = 127
screen contrast = 121
let me know if it's good.
How to do that on default os?
gaurravv5 said:
How to do that on default os?
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you need bootloadr unlocked and root and a custom kernel like franco blu spark or boeffla for that. stock kernel does not support that

True Colors

Could anyone suggest me if there is a way to make the Pixel 2 display colors the most true to life they could be?
I mean. The the standard color setting are pretty messed up! I mean. There's a super saturated mode and two under-saturated modes.
What's a good kcal profile that I apply to make things such that editing photos and seeing content is the most true, like it's supposed to look like on every phone.
Blacks are extremely crushed (even dark gray displays as black)
Colors are too saturated
Contrast too pumped
If I compare my screen to the one of the iPhone X, the photos on the iPhone look much more real, less muted.

is it just me or is the display pretty disappointing

i don't know why i seem to be the only one, i always wanted a note because it's been praised as the best display of all time i finally got a note 10+ and the display disappoints me to no end, first off the colors are dull, my xperia xz1 on super vivid mode has more vibrant colors, second off the brightness it's not amazing if i compare my note 10+ to my huawei mate 10 pro the huawei appears more vibrant and bright, the huawei is running a custom rom, my note 10 + has custom white balance settings with green and red turned down to 0 and it's still too yellow for my taste the screen mode is itensive and yes bluelight filter is off, when i use the note 10+ on it's own i get used too it and i see no issues with the display but then i start up my mate 10 pro and get a much whiter better white and overall brighter image, my note 10+ is set to +10 brightness and high performance mode all auto brightness off and max brightness, white still appears dull colors appear dull, why am i the only one who feels this way?
Was gonna ask if your blue light filter thing was on. The white seers into my brain unless I have the filter on. This seems to be the best display I've ever used. And you're saying other phones are brighter? I haven't found a single phone brighter than this one. Maybe a defective screen?
chetly968 said:
Was gonna ask if your blue light filter thing was on. The white seers into my brain unless I have the filter on. This seems to be the best display I've ever used. And you're saying other phones are brighter? I haven't found a single phone brighter than this one. Maybe a defective screen?
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i had the display swapped after the frame cracked the last display it had was the same and yes bluelight filter is off adaptive brightness is off i always make sure all of it is off from what i can tell i am not alone with this it seems the exynos model is overall more yellow than snapdragon
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chetly968 said:
Was gonna ask if your blue light filter thing was on. The white seers into my brain unless I have the filter on. This seems to be the best display I've ever used. And you're saying other phones are brighter? I haven't found a single phone brighter than this one. Maybe a defective screen?
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which white looks best to you in your honest opinion? the note 10 is as mentioned on the highest brightness possible with intensive mode turned on with the coldest possible setting and high performance mode with brightness 10+ adaptive brightness off blue light filter off brightness slider max
https://twitter.com/ZZCOOL/status/1177292994740924417?s=20
Not every note is that yellowish u have to win the Display lottery
I changed the Screen mode from Natural to Vibrant and the colors are a lot brighter and vibrant.
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i don't know why i seem to be the only one, i always wanted a note because it's been praised as the best display of all time i finally got a note 10+ and the display disappoints me to no end, first off the colors are dull, my xperia xz1 on super vivid mode has more vibrant colors, second off the brightness it's not amazing if i compare my note 10+ to my huawei mate 10 pro the huawei appears more vibrant and bright, the huawei is running a custom rom, my note 10 + has custom white balance settings with green and red turned down to 0 and it's still too yellow for my taste the screen mode is itensive and yes bluelight filter is off, when i use the note 10+ on it's own i get used too it and i see no issues with the display but then i start up my mate 10 pro and get a much whiter better white and overall brighter image, my note 10+ is set to +10 brightness and high performance mode all auto brightness off and max brightness, white still appears dull colors appear dull, why am i the only one who feels this way?
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Did you go into display and change it to the max resolution?
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i don't know why i seem to be the only one, i always wanted a note because it's been praised as the best display of all time i finally got a note 10+ and the display disappoints me to no end, first off the colors are dull, my xperia xz1 on super vivid mode has more vibrant colors, second off the brightness it's not amazing if i compare my note 10+ to my huawei mate 10 pro the huawei appears more vibrant and bright, the huawei is running a custom rom, my note 10 + has custom white balance settings with green and red turned down to 0 and it's still too yellow for my taste the screen mode is itensive and yes bluelight filter is off, when i use the note 10+ on it's own i get used too it and i see no issues with the display but then i start up my mate 10 pro and get a much whiter better white and overall brighter image, my note 10+ is set to +10 brightness and high performance mode all auto brightness off and max brightness, white still appears dull colors appear dull, why am i the only one who feels this way?
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You must have a dud. the screen on my Exynos N10+ is freaking amazing!
As zzcool said, my screen is absolutely gorgeous, now I see netflix in its full splendor, but you have to tweak the display settings to suit your taste
The display is what everyone who see's my Note 10+ mentions first. They are amazed at how good it is...
Maybe a side to side comparison to another phone might show it up but everyone who's seen it goes gaga over it...
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Did you go into display and change it to the max resolution?
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it's set to high performance which forces max resolution and max brightness, the images i posted earlier show the difference between my note 10+ and my mate 10 pro you see how the color of the white has a red tint despite being as cold as it possibly can get
winol said:
As zzcool said, my screen is absolutely gorgeous, now I see netflix in its full splendor, but you have to tweak the display settings to suit your taste
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my tweaks are the following
max performance with brightness 10+ enabled and brightness slider to the highest possible settingm, intensive with the temp slider to the far left as in coldest as it gets then advanced white balance both red and green turned down to 0 blue turned to max meaning the screen should have an extreme blue tint it doesn't, i tried the google books method and blue light is always off when i launch the app so it's not that, i even tried calibrating colors under accessability where you have to rearrange colored balls result are almost identical to what i had with a slight yellow tint to the white so worse than before i turned that off again
i had this issue with the original display and now the replacement one when i havenothing to compare to white looks great colors pop screen looks good white feels slightly dull but it's hard to tell, but then i go back to my xperia xz1 or mate 10 pro and feel a huge difference in white and overall color performance, both displays pop a lot more than the note 10+
might i add i am ultra sensitive to warm displays so what looks great to someone else might look like a yellow mess to me i always increase blue on all displays i have my sony af9 is set to cold with all color enhancers to max i need colors that pop with no yellow tint what so ever, i am not a fan of accurate colors at all
Being the most accurate display of colors doesn't mean it'll be your favorite. Maybe you prefer less accurate (seriously, no snark here). But brightness should be pretty clear cut... No idea why yours wouldn't be as bright.
PsiPhiDan said:
Being the most accurate display of colors doesn't mean it'll be your favorite. Maybe you prefer less accurate (seriously, no snark here). But brightness should be pretty clear cut... No idea why yours wouldn't be as bright.
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well i already know i hate accurate colors i want bright vibrant cold colors anything accurate to me looks dull and yellow the surface pro i have which is known for it's accurate calibration almost looked black and white to me until i got it decent by forcing intel control panel and increasing color intensity but the screen was so terrible on it i stopped using it i just couldn't deal with that display so it's been collecting dust ever since, my xperia xz1 is using super vivid mode with blue turned up to 171 the screen becomes complete trash without super vivid mode and it becomes the best display i have ever seen with super vivid mode turned on, i wasn't a huge fan of the display on the xperia 1 either that phone has no super vivid mode and the display was rather dull to me but the brightness and white was miles better than the note 10+ especially when it forced the brightness to max on apps like youtube (it dimmed outside of certain apps which i could not handle so i sent it back but on youtube the brightness was just mindblowing the white was so perfect and clear then it wen't gray as soon as it would dim when i exited the youtube app)
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which white looks best to you in your honest opinion? the note 10 is as mentioned on the highest brightness possible with intensive mode turned on with the coldest possible setting and high performance mode with brightness 10+ adaptive brightness off blue light filter off brightness slider max
https://twitter.com/ZZCOOL/status/1177292994740924417?s=20
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I would say the Mate looks slightly brighter and whiter. Not sure what could be happening. My screen looks great. I have to tone it down quite a bit so the images don't seer into my retinas. Simply turning off the blue light filter makes my eyes hurt.
Remove your sunglasses.
thank me later
chetly968 said:
I would say the Mate looks slightly brighter and whiter. Not sure what could be happening. My screen looks great. I have to tone it down quite a bit so the images don't seer into my retinas. Simply turning off the blue light filter makes my eyes hurt.
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so it's not just me then?
zzcool said:
so it's not just me then?
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I believe that the Note interface is more greyish than white. This is why even without the blue filter, if you do not increase backlight alot, it is not quite white.
It can be seen on the Home screen, when you group-up some apps icons in a folder, have a look at the white of the icons and compare it to the white of the folder itself. Not same white. The surrounding white of the folder is grey, not white.
Same goes for the google search on home screen, it is not white compared to the the white of say, the Google Apps icon.
Maybe try another theme if you do not like it ?
mafy31 said:
I believe that the Note interface is more greyish than white. This is why even without the blue filter, if you do not increase backlight alot, it is not quite white.
It can be seen on the Home screen, when you group-up some apps icons in a folder, have a look at the white of the icons and compare it to the white of the folder itself. Not same white. The surrounding white of the folder is grey, not white.
Same goes for the google search on home screen, it is not white compared to the the white of say, the Google Apps icon.
Maybe try another theme if you do not like it ?
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i set a pure white wallpaper in the google wallpaper app on both phones would upload the picture but uploads don't work for some reason
https://twitter.com/ZZCOOL/status/1177638746801479681?s=20

A71 has a better screen than S20s?

I have just used an A71 with Super Amoled "Plus" and I can say that it has a better screen than the S20+ in terms of white calibration and contrast, S20s with Dynamic Amoled are all too warm and when you try to adjust it does not fit at all. Subpixel rendering is also noticeable due to its pentile panel. I know it's a matter of getting used to it but it's hard to see.
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I have just used an A71 with Super Amoled "Plus" and I can say that it has a better screen than the S20+ in terms of white calibration and contrast, S20s with Dynamic Amoled are all too warm and when you try to adjust it does not fit at all. Subpixel rendering is also noticeable due to its pentile panel. I know it's a matter of getting used to it but it's hard to see.
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It is not better starting from Note10 samsung made the displays warmer to decrease stress on eyes , but you can adjust it manually throw display settings see attached screenshot, make it all way left to cool the tap advanced settings and tune the red and green to get same results as A71 , and make sure to close blue light filter also
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It is not better starting from Note10 samsung made the displays warmer to decrease stress on eyes , but you can adjust it manually throw display settings see attached screenshot, make it all way left to cool the tap advanced settings and tune the red and green to get same results as A71 , and make sure to close blue light filter also
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You dont get the same results, I can confirm that. They have diferent technology and is very noticeable.

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