Curious if anyone else is experiencing issues with apps after the android 10 update
Specifically 3rd party launchers, and tasker.
launchers cannot display the recent apps screen properly is the main issue I found.
tasker cannot run certain variables because it isnt getting the information it needs. for example, %WIN variable.
anyone else experiencing this? Is this LG's version of android 10, or an android 10 issue in general?
I get the recent thing from nova launcher occasionally. After a restart it is really bad. But it eventually works again and all behaviors return to pre-10.
LG did the most asinine thing with their Android 10 build... they removed the recent apps code from the system and baked it into their stock Home launcher. If you use any launcher other than Home, when you try to open the recent apps, it's actually launching Home and displaying the recent apps that way. The only workaround I've found is to remove Home from power savings so that it's always in memory. Even that isn't perfect, but it's better than nothing.
Alexsha said:
LG did the most asinine thing with their Android 10 build... they removed the recent apps code from the system and baked it into their stock Home launcher. If you use any launcher other than Home, when you try to open the recent apps, it's actually launching Home and displaying the recent apps that way. The only workaround I've found is to remove Home from power savings so that it's always in memory. Even that isn't perfect, but it's better than nothing.
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The home app is responsible for recents and gestures always. I think other companies do exactly the same thing. There's usually a recents provider, which is the stock home app
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The home app is responsible for recents and gestures always. I think other companies do exactly the same thing. There's usually a recents provider, which is the stock home app
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If that were true, you would not be able to disable the stock launcher, which I have done on many phones with no issue.
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So I switched to nova launcher and now my recent apps is buggy. Once I clear all and I go ahead and use apps again and open recent apps, I see nothing. I have to reopen it several times to see anything....have anyone experience this?
Yes I've had that too. I'm using nova now also but can't remember if I was having the issue using lg launcher or not
I'm having this issue too, not sure if it's too blame on nova or something else though?
On 10a with the stock launcher I have to hit the recent apps button then hit it again to see what's open.
Confirmed this issue. Sometimes, hitting recents app goes to home screen instead of recent app screen.
I have no problem when using Nova and the Recent Apps list on my stock UK International SIM Free G3 when on both 10a and 10e.
Same here.
Stock, rooted.
Happens infrequently on my nexus 5 also.
I flashed 5.1 and it's kind of OK (although a few app stopped errors happen) but the home button only works from the task switcher screen. It doesn't work from any app. Tried with Launcher, tried with Nova Launcher. Also, setting Home in Nova Launcher to an app doesn't launch that app. Something eats my home clicks. But what? I do not use a custom keyboard.
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I flashed 5.1 and it's kind of OK (although a few app stopped errors happen) but the home button only works from the task switcher screen. It doesn't work from any app. Tried with Launcher, tried with Nova Launcher. Also, setting Home in Nova Launcher to an app doesn't launch that app. Something eats my home clicks. But what? I do not use a custom keyboard.
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You should probably wipe everything and do a fresh install of the latest factory image. From the force closes, it sounds like you flashed all all positions besides data... Or you're having issues with the touchscreen drivers, which is a widely known issue on flo... Look around in the general section, there are about four threads with good information annoy the touchscreen if that's your issue. You could also collect a logcat of the touch fail, limit the output so it's easy to find the error and determine the source of your issue... Just some ideas.
As much as I want to use Nova Launcher, it's just not as smooth and quick as the stock Pixel Launcher. Anyone else feel this way? At the same time, I have a love/hate relationship with Pixel Launcher because I love having the icon unread notification numbers on Nova as well as being able to change the home screen grid size. In the end, though, Nova is just not as quick loading apps and the app drawer.
I agree Google isn't making it easy to use another launcher on Pixel phones. It's a shame.
Nova is definitely not as smooth as the Pixel launcher. But Nova has so many advantages for me that I'll take its options over overall smoothness any day.
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I agree Google isn't making it easy to use another launcher on Pixel phones. It's a shame.
Nova is definitely not as smooth as the Pixel launcher. But Nova has so many advantages for me that I'll take its options over overall smoothness any day.
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Same here.
U guys can use one plus launcher, one UI launcher and a custom pixel launcher as well with More customizations. There's a thread on telegram.
Action Launcher does pretty much everything Nova can do and it does everything stock pixel launcher does too. Including copying from recents screen and using Android 10 gestures.
Launchers can add the ability to work correctly on Pixels, Google opened up the ability for 3rd party launchers in December, Action Launcher is only one I know of that can do it without using quickstep or magisk.
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Action Launcher does pretty much everything Nova can do and it does everything stock pixel launcher does too. Including copying from recents screen and using Android 10 gestures.
Launchers can add the ability to work correctly on Pixels, Google opened up the ability for 3rd party launchers in December, Action Launcher is only one I know of that can do it without using quickstep.
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The ones I'm referring to don't require quickstep either, just flash in magisk
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The ones I'm referring to don't require quickstep either, just flash in magisk
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Action Launcher doesn't require magisk.
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Action Launcher doesn't require magisk.
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Fully aware, just providing more options
I keep seeing these threads where at least one person claims Nova doesn't work correctly. Last year, I would have agreed... but I've been using Nova for months and I have forgotten about any drawbacks if there are any. The only differences I remember are a couple animations and the recents menu doesn't have suggestion icons? (which never suggested apps I wanted to use, so I don't miss it)
What's the smoothness that people are complaining about? The animations run as fast as my finger pushes things around... Is it just the quality and type of animations? If so, I want functionality far over such things. Having to use substratum/magisk to customize the Pixel Launcher was way worse than recreating my layout in Nova. If only things like TeslaUnread were still officially supported... but Google likes killing off useful things.
Feel free to help me understand what I'm missing.
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I keep seeing these threads where at least one person claims Nova doesn't work correctly. Last year, I would have agreed... but I've been using Nova for months and I have forgotten about any drawbacks if there are any. The only differences I remember are a couple animations and the recents menu doesn't have suggestion icons? (which never suggested apps I wanted to use, so I don't miss it)
What's the smoothness that people are complaining about? The animations run as fast as my finger pushes things around... Is it just the quality and type of animations? If so, I want functionality far over such things. Having to use substratum/magisk to customize the Pixel Launcher was way worse than recreating my layout in Nova. If only things like TeslaUnread were still officially supported... but Google likes killing off useful things.
Feel free to help me understand what I'm missing.
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Nova says in the settings that Google has not made it possible for Nova to use Android 10 gestures correctly. Google has made it work, but Nova hasn't been updated to allow it yet.
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Nova says in the settings that Google has not made it possible for Nova to use Android 10 gestures correctly. Google has made it work, but Nova hasn't been updated to allow it yet.
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In my opinion, the warning is wrong. Back when I first got my phone, like half of the gestures didn't quite work. Now everything works for me.
At Nova's homescreen...
Swipe from side: Isn't triggered because you can't go back from home. Just flips pages.
Swipe from bottom: Opens app search. I'm not sure if the gesture is doing this or Nova is.
Swipe from bottom & hold: Opens recents.
Swipe from corner: Shows assistant overlay.
Everything basic works. I don't have palm swipe screenshots enabled.
My issue with Nova is the delay going back to the home screen. I can't immediately open another app. I always have to wait an extra second or click on app twice before it opens. I want the full pixel experience and it seems that Nova doesn't always deliver on it. I do occasionally go back to it until I get annoyed with my first statement.
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Honestly, I've never noticed this. I guess I go home before I know what I want to click on and so I'm never quick enough to see it.
The way it's acting, it reminds me of a paused activity that needs to refresh when the app gets restored. I tried to disable battery optimization for Nova, but it didn't help. I'm not sure how to solve that.
I tried the same test on my old phone and pressing the home button actually does nothing for a split second, then Nova shows and responds immediately. But when you gesture, you want it to happen immediately... not a split second later. So in that way, Android 10 and Nova do the sensible thing and shows the paused activity.
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Can you provide a link please?
I was using Nova Launche a lot of time ago! let's going to check how does it works now!
I have no reason to use any other launcher than pixel launcher. It works just as I need.
not sure what the hoo-blah is. I have been using Nova prime beta with no issues. No problems returning home... No speed issues. The warning that is in there is talking about the gesture navigation system wide not inside the launcher. So this means you have to use the classic 3 button method to navigate (back, home, recent). IMHO this does not affect the experience at all. Definitely prefer Nova and the customization over the stock launcher. :good:
Edit:Actually just changed the nav settings and Nova is working with new gestures.
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not sure what the hoo-blah is. I have been using Nova prime beta with no issues. No problems returning home... No speed issues. The warning that is in there is talking about the gesture navigation system wide not inside the launcher. So this means you have to use the classic 3 button method to navigate (back, home, recent). IMHO this does not affect the experience at all. Definitely prefer Nova and the customization over the stock launcher. :good:
Edit:Actually just changed the nav settings and Nova is working with new gestures.
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I just switched back to Nova from Lawnchair on both my S20+ and Pixel 4XL. Nova works beautiful now and Nova Google Companion works with dark mode.
I'm on Android 11 Beta and am running Nova with no problems with gestures at all. For some reason on 10 they were not working as smooth and I would get some lag going back to the home screen. On 11, those problems have seemed to disappear.
While that's true, the closing app animation is not there and feels weird. ( Using gesture navigation )
With the introduction of Android 11, Task Changer no longer functions. I despise Android's native iOS-style task switcher. If I wanted my phone to function like an iPhone with iOS gesture garbage and UI copycats I would have bought an iPhone. It's especially annoying when I open the switcher to swipe away the current app only to realize it automatically scrolled to an app beside it and I've instead swiped away the app I wanted to switch to instead closing the current one. Not only does this do the exact opposite of what I wanted, it makes things even worse because I now have to reopen the app I wanted to switch to. Depending on what that is, text fields, progress, etc can be lost and require several minutes to restore. Blah blah you get the picture. It sucks. Many people must agree with me or Task Changer wouldn't exist as a first party app, let alone at all.
Tl;dr and the actual question, Is there anything out there that can be used to substitute the functions of Good Lock's Task Changer until Samsung updates it to work with the latest software? I've looked but I haven't been able to find anything. In addition to this question I've noticed that the navigation gestures don't work at all 70% of the time and require the gesture hint lines to be enabled in order for them to work reliably. Is this related to Good Lock not being updated which would otherwise smooth that out, or is it a general software bug? I only ask because I've had Good Lock's Task Changer active ever since the S8+ Pie update, which was two phones ago, so I've avoided the stock task switcher like the plague until now.
Wait a bit as Samsung should update it soon.
Any more I don't update any OS I like and if I do it's only after lots of positive feedback exists.
Still happily running Pie and W7X64, lol.
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Wait a bit as Samsung should update it soon.
Any more I don't update any OS I like and if I do it's only after lots of positive feedback exists.
Still happily running Pie and W7X64, lol.
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I used to rock the same boat. I have no idea why I strayed from that methodology this one time but I regret it. Maybe it was the notification history feature, but that's definitely not worth it considering a lot of things are now broken. Honestly with everything that's wrong with it it feels like I was given a beta version of the OS someone marked as stable only because it doesn't kernel panic. Not being able to reliably use the iOS-style navigation gestures that were forced upon me is a pretty big deal. You'd think people testing the software would realize that the single most used - and arguably most important - thing in the OS (back, home, and task switcher swipe-up gesture) doesn't work properly.
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I used to rock the same boat. I have no idea why I strayed from that methodology this one time but I regret it. Maybe it was the notification history feature, but that's definitely not worth it considering a lot of things are now broken. Honestly with everything that's wrong with it it feels like I was given a beta version of the OS someone marked as stable only because it doesn't kernel panic. Not being able to reliably use the iOS-style navigation gestures that were forced upon me is a pretty big deal. You'd think people testing the software would realize that the single most used - and arguably most important - thing in the OS (back, home, and task switcher swipe-up gesture) doesn't work properly.
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Android has the Windows Syndrome bad... mixed in with the Apple Swine Flu
Try One Handed Operation+, lol if it loads the new OS that is. It's gestures are reliable.
Low battery, resources use and rock solid stable.
I'm also very frustrated.
When bringing up the app switcher there is no longer an "apps" button that pops up a list of my installed app icons which I can then long press on and drag to open them in split screen, pop up view, or just open them regularly. It's just a blank screen now with only the apps I have open on it. Was that a feature of Good Lock's Task Changer too? I absolutely need that back. Multitasking is a nightmare and a half without it.
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When bringing up the app switcher there is no longer an "apps" button that pops up a list of my installed app icons which I can then long press on and drag to open them in split screen, pop up view, or just open them regularly. It's just a blank screen now with only the apps I have open on it. Was that a feature of Good Lock's Task Changer too? I absolutely need that back. Multitasking is a nightmare and a half without it.
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No, that was a feature of the normal app switcher. I personally don't like the goodlock one. I'm glad I'm on an S10 and still get options lol.
I couldn't agree more with OP. I get that some people want this unproductive annoying deck of card recent apps design, but why on earth isn't there more layouts to choose from in the settings somewhere. I've usually used custom ROMs, and most of them had these settings (I mostly used slim recents and I loved it), but not recently due to some apps' aggressive anti root, anti custom rom policies like banking apps, f***Ing snapchat, etc. I was so happy when I found out about Nice Lock, but then Sammy nagged about updating and I did it to my not-so-big surprise it messed up everything. Sorry I have no good answer here, just had to agree and ventilate.
Task changer is now an option in the Home Up app. Updated today.
But it's not working on my Note 10+ running latest firmware.
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Task changer is now an option in the Home Up app. Updated today.
But it's not working on my Note 10+ running latest firmware.
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I got an update also, and Task Changer now shows in Home Up, but when I click it says to download update. But I just downloaded the update...so idk what's happening.
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I got an update also, and Task Changer now shows in Home Up, but when I click it says to download update. But I just downloaded the update...so idk what's happening.
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Seems like a error "fix" to task changer.
I downloaded Home up, from apkmirror website Saw 2 x versions available, with today's date.
Installed second update (Version: 2.0.01.11 (200100011)... as it stated there was a fix for Task changer that was force closing.
Big disappointment, as there is only really 2 new options. The normal list one, and the extra ones
Grid and Stack.
Good luck.
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Task changer is now an option in the Home Up app. Updated today.
But it's not working on my Note 10+ running latest firmware.
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See my post below.
Try the updated version up Home Version: 2.0.01.11 (200100011)
Should work now as the updated version fixes Task changer that was force closing.
Just downloaded it. What happened to all the choices? There's only 3 now. I had liked the grid view where I can swipe up and down. Now I can only swipe right.
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See my post below.
Try the updated version up Home Version: 2.0.01.11 (200100011)
Should work now as the updated version fixes Task changer that was force closing.
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I downloaded the 2.0.01.11 and still with the same problem. Please download the latest One UI home market place update.
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I downloaded the 2.0.01.11 and still with the same problem. Please download the latest One UI home market place update.
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In my case I've sideloaded Home up module, from apkMirror website, the updated version of Home up ....version..... " .11" and my task changer is working ok.
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After sideloading the .11 update it still tells me to install the One UI Home Market update. So Home Up's Task Changer isn't working either.
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After sideloading the .11 update it still tells me to install the One UI Home Market update. So Home Up's Task Changer isn't working either.
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head inside google search bar and one ui home latest version scroll down until you see al version and download Samsung One UI Home 12.1.01.15
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head inside google search bar and one ui home latest version scroll down until you see al version and download Samsung One UI Home 12.1.01.15
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This worked, but as someone pointed out earlier there are only three options for the task changer which don't even change the layout at all. Unfortunately this isn't useful, as it only moves the recent apps closer together or shrinks them. For now I guess it's back to waiting for the task changer app itself to be updated.
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This worked, but as someone pointed out earlier there are only three options for the task changer which don't even change the layout at all. Unfortunately this isn't useful, as it only moves the recent apps closer together or shrinks them. For now I guess it's back to waiting for the task changer app itself to be updated.
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Knowing samsung, I'm afraid that this is it. And it seems to only work reliablywhen you actually use them as a home screen, I use Nova launcher
friguy3 said:
Knowing samsung, I'm afraid that this is it. And it seems to only work reliablywhen you actually use them as a home screen, I use Nova launcher
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Fine Lock says Task Changer will be updated in March.
I have tried various lauchers and all of them seem to have this same issue. When on home sceen I can't access recent apps with any 3rd party laucher. Is this a issue with my particular device? I am pretty sure it is no bug from the launcher as i have tried various launchers all of them have this same issue. Is there a fix for this as I don't like samsungs stock launcher.
Edit: The recent app window is working but has a delay of like 2seco ds
Anyone with the fix for this?
One UI is the best launcher to use on a Samsung.
What are the problems you have with it?
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One UI is the best launcher to use on a Samsung.
What are the problems you have with it?
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There is no problem with the launcher. I am used to vertical scrolling and stock like feel as i had a 6t. I want a similar experience here. One UI might be the best but point is I can't change is due to this recent app bug.
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There is no problem with the launcher. I am used to vertical scrolling and stock like feel as i had a 6t. I want a similar experience here. One UI might be the best but point is I can't change is due to this recent app bug.
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May need to wait for the 3rd party launchers to be updated.
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I have tried various lauchers and all of them seem to have this same issue. When on home sceen I can't access recent apps with any 3rd party laucher. Is this a issue with my particular device? I am pretty sure it is no bug from the launcher as i have tried various launchers all of them have this same issue. Is there a fix for this as I don't like samsungs stock launcher.
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I use Nova and Recent apps works. One thing I did notice was, if I debloat (i.e. disable) OneUI Home then recent apps dont work on Nova launcher.
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There is no problem with the launcher. I am used to vertical scrolling and stock like feel as i had a 6t. I want a similar experience here. One UI might be the best but point is I can't change is due to this recent app bug.
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For me, the recent apps are working and I'm on the stock OS One UI!
Nova launcher works for recent apps. But the gesture is not as fluid as it would be with the stock launcher. Try using good lock app and customize with one handed operation.
What do you mean by 'customize with one handed operation'? What does that have to do with the gesture?
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What do you mean by 'customize with one handed operation'? What does that have to do with the gesture?
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That's what it does, uses swipe gestures from R/L sides to control multiple user selected functions including navigation and apps.
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That's what it does, uses swipe gestures from R/L sides to control multiple user selected functions including navigation and apps.
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Thanks! Tried it since my message yesterday, and it works good.
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Thanks! Tried it since my message yesterday, and it works good.
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You're welcome. It's a great app especially suited to nest in the curve of the screen. The curved screen starts to make sense...
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You're welcome. It's a great app especially suited to nest in the curve of the screen. The curved screen starts to make sense...
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I have the S22 base model, but I understand what you mean.
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I have the S22 base model, but I understand what you mean.
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That might be for the better; the S22U screens seem to be breaking rather easily from short drops.
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There is no problem with the launcher. I am used to vertical scrolling and stock like feel as i had a 6t. I want a similar experience here. One UI might be the best but point is I can't change is due to this recent app bug.
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What launcher are you using? I'm using Microsoft Launcher and the Recent Apps function works fine.
Recent apps are working but there is a delay in opening the window on all 3rd party lauchers!