Hi all
In the past I’ve had to buy international variants for the best possible coverage when traveling. Even the US unlocked did not cover as much as their international unlocked counterparts.
I spend a lot of my time overseas so I’m willing to have less then ideal coverage in the united states.
I’ve tried to look up information on the bands but so far have not had much look comparing to see if I should preorder the s20 ultra unlocked in the states or just wait until I go abroad and purchase the international version in a few months when I leave again. Even if I don’t get the deals on preorder.
Which would really be a downer if there isn’t a difference and I could buy it now with all the perks of the promos.
Can anyone enlighten me on if the unlocked US version or international unlocked variant would be more suited to travel outside the States?
Or is their a difference this time?
Thanks!
I have this same question, but here is my dilemma....
The US version work have a snapdragon and a $200 credit at samsung's website for pre-orders but the international version with have the ability to be rooted. Now i have the oneplus 7 pro, with root, i am able to force 90hz refresh rate on ALL apps. If i can root the s20 ultra, i can swap in a kernel that allows 120hz at qhd on alll apps, which is pure gold in itself.
the Kong kong and Latina american variants historically have been snapdragon AND rootable so you can have the better processor wnd root.
that said there has also not been a ton of development for those particular variants which i mever understood since your getting the best of both worlds
I'm in the same boat. My current GS8+ is international variant specifically because of dual sim and root.
I'm conflicted with all the international versions not getting things like 5G vs international. I pre-ordered, I still can cancel my order...
What's the likelihood that US Unlocked version can be rooted within few months? Anyone know if they're adding additional locks to it?
XtremeMaC said:
I'm in the same boat. My current GS8+ is international variant specifically because of dual sim and root.
I'm conflicted with all the international versions not getting things like 5G vs international. I pre-ordered, I still can cancel my order...
What's the likelihood that US Unlocked version can be rooted within few months? Anyone know if they're adding additional locks to it?
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It is my understanding that traditionally, US unlocked version is SiM unlocked but bootloader locked. Therefore, the likelyhood that it will be rootable in a few months will be the same as with other recent phones, next to zero.
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yeah, that's what I'm afraid of..
In thos age of hacking and malware. You couldnt pay me to have a rooted phone. The only advantage was titanium backup and that only half ass works when restoring data. Not worth it.
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johnwayne27 said:
In thos age of hacking and malware. You couldnt pay me to have a rooted phone. The only advantage was titanium backup and that only half ass works when restoring data. Not worth it.
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Viper4android!
very hard choice
- Snapdragon 865 is more power efficient and more powerful ( 10 % against exynos SOC)
but forget root
- Outside US 5G networks aver very very limited
- The exynos will receive more updates
- US version has only one card sim slot
johnwayne27 said:
In thos age of hacking and malware. You couldnt pay me to have a rooted phone. The only advantage was titanium backup and that only half ass works when restoring data. Not worth it.
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You couldn't be more wrong. But hey. Your choice.
Ricardo_G said:
very hard choice
- Snapdragon 865 is more power efficient and more powerful ( 10 % against exynos SOC)
but forget root
- Outside US 5G networks aver very very limited
- The exynos will receive more updates
- US version has only one card sim slot
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5G is all over Europe.
force70 said:
the Kong kong and Latina american variants historically have been snapdragon AND rootable so you can have the better processor wnd root.
that said there has also not been a ton of development for those particular variants which i mever understood since your getting the best of both worlds
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suppp force
so i'm struggling with the choice too, either the SA (latin american snapdragon) or exynos .
I don't really care about development beyond TWRP and Root , not sure what to do
From what I have seen there are also various versions of the international unlocked, some are dual sim and some ha e different bands (with or without 5G).
masri1987 said:
suppp force
so i'm struggling with the choice too, either the SA (latin american snapdragon) or exynos .
I don't really care about development beyond TWRP and Root , not sure what to do
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long time no talk bro, hope all is well?
the snap would be my choice,it will be rootable, could be already for all i know. plus the 865 is far superior to the exynos is pretty much every category.
for me the choice would be easy lol.
force70 said:
long time no talk bro, hope all is well?
the snap would be my choice,it will be rootable, could be already for all i know. plus the 865 is far superior to the exynos is pretty much every category.
for me the choice would be easy lol.
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which model #'s should i be trying to get?
I'm asuming SA is south american models with S865
When's the last time we crossed paths? It wasn't 3xl was it?
Hope you staying safe from teh cabrona virus
masri1987 said:
which model #'s should i be trying to get?
I'm asuming SA is south american models with S865
When's the last time we crossed paths? It wasn't 3xl was it?
Hope you staying safe from teh cabrona virus
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the Hong kong and brazil model number is just SM-G9880. no N,W Or anything else. but they both would be 865s yep.
couldnt have been the 3XL cause i didnt get one, def been awhile though. Im not on as much as I used to be...too many snowflakes lol.
Corona virus has everything shut down here in Ontario, Canada. movies, restaurants, gyms (that one hits hard with me being a bodybuilder).
its crazy.
what about the "N" Korean version? is it rootable? im debating whether to get the international one or the korean version. I want to be rooted with viper4android
yes it should be its exynos.
Korean/ international basically the same thing hardware other than possibly being capable of different network frequencies.
you cannot cross flash Korean and international firmware however if that matters
ive had lots of both and never had issues with either.
Player04 said:
what about the "N" Korean version? is it rootable? im debating whether to get the international one or the korean version. I want to be rooted with viper4android
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This may help you decide.
https://sea.pcmag.com/smartphones/3...-americas-first-unlocked-all-carrier-5g-phone
Im on att. What i wont be able to use the 5g network if i get an international verion. I might get the us verison then
Well i have one of my cousin's coming from Usa in about a month and wanted to know wether i will have International Warranty on my Samsung Galaxy Ultra. I live in India so any inputs would be great.
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paras said:
Well i have one of my cousin's coming from Usa in about a month and wanted to know wether i will have International Warranty on my Samsung Galaxy Ultra. I live in India so any inputs would be great.
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Personally I'm not sure, however you do have a 2 year warranty for sure.
I would imagine that if it's an 865 then it would have to go to that region, EU / India I believe got the exynos variant so the Samsung techs in those regions will more than likely only stock the exynos variant parts.
With that in mind I'd say you'd need to ship to an 865 region.
But I'm only using common sense to come to that conclusion.
If I were you I'd contact Samsung directly , they should have a live chat on their website, they can clarify.
No international warranty. It's by region of the device. When you call for support, they ask for IMEI and route/redirect you accordingly.
dladz said:
Personally I'm not sure, however you do have a 2 year warranty for sure.
I would imagine that if it's an 865 then it would have to go to that region, EU / India I believe got the exynos variant so the Samsung techs in those regions will more than likely only stock the exynos variant parts.
With that in mind I'd say you'd need to ship to an 865 region.
But I'm only using common sense to come to that conclusion.
If I were you I'd contact Samsung directly , they should have a live chat on their website, they can clarify.
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Thank you for your input. I think your right.
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shollywood said:
No international warranty. It's by region of the device. When you call for support, they ask for IMEI and route/redirect you accordingly.
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Thank you.
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I can buy a Note 10+ or Note 11+ (sometimes called Note 20+) unlocked for cash. I want to get the version that will run on T-Mobile (Qualcomm Snapdragon 855 or 865 chipset). Can I root the phone if I buy it unlocked or is the fact that it is T-Mobile compatible with the Qualcomm Snapdragon chipset already blocked from rooting?
What new top-of the line androids that run on T-Mobile can be rooted?
Playa Cat said:
I can buy a Note 10+ or Note 11+ (sometimes called Note 20+) unlocked for cash. I want to get the version that will run on T-Mobile (Qualcomm Snapdragon 855 or 865 chipset). Can I root the phone if I buy it unlocked or is the fact that it is T-Mobile compatible with the Qualcomm Snapdragon chipset already blocked from rooting?
What new top-of the line androids that run on T-Mobile can be rooted?
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Since note 8 you can run any note 8 or newer on any carrier. I believe every note has something like 7 radios? Rooting is a real mess now and won't work with Samsung Pay and other cool features in many cases.
Playa Cat said:
I can buy a Note 10+ or Note 11+ (sometimes called Note 20+) unlocked for cash. I want to get the version that will run on T-Mobile (Qualcomm Snapdragon 855 or 865 chipset). Can I root the phone if I buy it unlocked or is the fact that it is T-Mobile compatible with the Qualcomm Snapdragon chipset already blocked from rooting?
What new top-of the line androids that run on T-Mobile can be rooted?
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Buying an "unlocked" phone means it is network/carrier unlocked and has nothing to do with the bootloader/root.
The US note 10+ whether carrier branded/locked (SM-N975U) or the network unlocked model from Samsung (SM-975U1) can not be rooted at this time.
Exynos or the Chinese variant (N9750) can be rooted, but I believe some compatibility issues (i.e. only being able to use 4G and not LTE, Samsung pay not being available, etc) may/will be a problem. Of the two I have seen while reading the forum the N9750 seems to be the better option (I have no way to confirm this myself, so ymmv) for use with T-Mobile.
The Note 20 has not been released yet. Far too early to ask about root for the model, but compatibility wise I am sure all the major carriers will have a carrier branded variant for sale (this includes T-Mobile). Unlocked model would most likely work for the most part, but factoring in what would work out of the box (or would require flashing the carrier branded firmware) is a coin flip or magic 8 ball question. Since the phone hasn't even hit the shelves for sale all I could do is give you theories and educated guesses, but if I had too offer a theory or educated guess I would say it would be like the Note 10+ U1 model.
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scottusa2008 said:
Buying an "unlocked" phone means it is network/carrier unlocked and has nothing to do with the bootloader/root.
The US note 10+ whether carrier branded/locked (SM-N975U) or the network unlocked model from Samsung (SM-975U1) can not be rooted at this time.
Exynos or the Chinese variant (N9750) can be rooted, but I believe some compatibility issues (i.e. only being able to use 4G and not LTE, Samsung pay not being available, etc) may/will be a problem. Of the two I have seen while reading the forum the N9750 seems to be the better option (I have no way to confirm this myself, so ymmv) for use with T-Mobile.
The Note 20 has not been released yet. Far too early to ask about root for the model, but compatibility wise I am sure all the major carriers will have a carrier branded variant for sale (this includes T-Mobile). Unlocked model would most likely work for the most part, but factoring in what would work out of the box (or would require flashing the carrier branded firmware) is a coin flip or magic 8 ball question. Since the phone hasn't even hit the shelves for sale all I could do is give you theories and educated guesses, but if I had too offer a theory or educated guess I would say it would be like the Note 10+ U1 model.
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Scott,
Is it not possible then to remove the T Mobile bloat from my Note 10+? I would like to load the stock samsung rom if possible but no matter how I try with Odin I can't get it to overwrite the T Mobile rom. After every reboot I am greeted with that annoying pink screen.
Thanks
Hello!
I want to buy a dual-SIM Snapdragon S22 and use it in the UK. To that regard, I have a few questions:
1. Is it a good idea? Any NOTICABLE advantages of Snapdragon vs Exynos. (ie. should I just stick to Exynos versions they sell in the UK?)
2. Will the warranty be valid in the UK if the phone is from the US, for example?
3. Which exact version should I buy? I want it to be SIM+eSIM and 5G working in the UK
4. Where do you suggest I buy it with fast international shipping?
Thank you!
Hello to you too.
1. It's subjective. People equally bash on both variants. If you order from US, you risk getting a carrier-"touched" variant whose bootloader (from what I understood) can't be unlocked. Other global SD variants should be fine.
2. The warranty is valid in the country where you bought it. It might be a different story for EU purchases due to international EU member agreements/laws BUT the general rule is that a warranty is valid in the country where the device was purchased.
HOWEVER, if you somehow manage to find a seller of SD units that offers warranty for EU residents, it should be fine. But you have to make sure that it's truly such a deal.
3. If you buy a variant not meant for your region, expect the possibility that 5G might not work. To avoid that, check which frequencies your mobile service provider is on and then check the variant you're considering and its supported frequencies.
4. No clue
Which Snapdragon version has Nano SIM + eSIM ?
Hello,
I have just ordered a SM-F936N Korean International model and I was wondering if 3/4/5G will fully work in the UK.
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EE will be best Network for SM-F936N
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Thanks for that. I have 3. Looks like 5G won't work. Wish I had seen this before.
It looks like it will work on a 5G network, but not everywhere ..
Barmenchik said:
It looks like it will work on a 5G network, but not everywhere ..
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Thank you sir. I guess I don't have much option but to stick with 3 since I renewed a 24 months contract less than two months ago. Plus I am indoors most of the time.