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I just got my 5t. It's unlocked, stock Oreo latest update. I am encrypted. The only thing I'm not sure of is which TWRP to install. Is one fof them for nougat?
Does it matter that I'm encrypted. I've been a fan of Dirty Unicorns for years and thinking about trying that first. Any help is really appreciated. Thanks

I don't think there is a dedicated 5T Dirty Unicorns thread on XDA. But I read it is an unencrypted ROM. Correct me someone if I am wrong. There is a Dirty Unicorns Google+ thread. People who have encrypted ROMs seem to use codeworkx or blu_spark TWRP. But for unencrypted ROM I hear official TWRP is fine.
However, since stock is encrypted, perhaps take codeworkx or blu_spark nandroid first.
And going from encrypted to unencrypted needs data reformat + factory reset.
Moreover, going back from unencrypted to encrypted can be tedious. In short, one not only needs to data reformat + factory reset, one needs to pass through stock recovery if I understand well. I find instructions somewhere in the official TWRP thread or elsewhere.
In short: going unencrypted is almost a one way street. But there always is a way back.

Dior DNA said:
I don't think there is a dedicated 5T Dirty Unicorns thread on XDA. But I read it is an unencrypted ROM. Correct me someone if I am wrong. There is a Dirty Unicorns Google+ thread. People who have encrypted ROMs seem to use codeworkx or blu_spark TWRP. But for unencrypted ROM I hear official TWRP is fine.
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You're right. DU stopped posting on xda awhile back but think I saw a dumpling build online, however I'm not sure if it's nougat or Oreo...
I don't necessarily need encryption but is that the only issue? So if I want unencrypted, the official version will be fine? Does anyone know if I can decrypt with TWRP? (I'll probably have to format data but that's fine) Thanks

KLit75 said:
You're right. DU stopped posting on xda awhile back but think I saw a dumpling build online, however I'm not sure if it's nougat or Oreo...
I don't necessarily need encryption but is that the only issue? So if I want unencrypted, the official version will be fine? Does anyone know if I can decrypt with TWRP? (I'll probably have to format data but that's fine) Thanks
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DU no doubt is 8.1 and YES you need to format data.
The other way back to encrypted seems the harder part.

Dior DNA said:
I don't think there is a dedicated 5T Dirty Unicorns thread on XDA. But I read it is an unencrypted ROM. Correct me someone if I am wrong. There is a Dirty Unicorns Google+ thread. People who have encrypted ROMs seem to use codeworkx or blu_spark TWRP. But for unencrypted ROM I hear official TWRP is fine.
However, since stock is encrypted, perhaps take codeworkx or blu_spark nandroid first.
And going from encrypted to unencrypted needs data reformat + factory reset.
Moreover, going back from unencrypted to encrypted can be tedious. In short, one not only needs to data reformat + factory reset, one needs to pass through stock recovery if I understand well. I find instructions somewhere in the official TWRP thread or elsewhere.
In short: going unencrypted is almost a one way street. But there always is a way back.
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I now have codeworkx twrp, rooted with magisk. I gotta say I'm pretty impressed with stock but I KNOW I'm gonna want to flash a custom ROM soon and that's not a fast process when you're encrypted.
You said make a nandroid...have you ever restored just data from stock to a custom ROM? I may have but it's been awhile. I'm thinking I might have issues.
If I want to flash ROMs I'm going to need to format (better sooner than later) so from what I remember, I should:
1. Boot TWRP
2. Format data
3. Full wipe?
4. Adb push ROM, gapps, magisk
5. Flash all of them
I'm just hoping you or someone else can verify. I've got a lot of stuff to transfer over from my old phone but it makes no sense to do that now if I'm going to have to format. Thanks
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I got it. Running Dirty Unicorns now. It was a bit of an adventure. MTP would not work. Had to adb push the zip files. And then it booted back into TWRP asking to allow modifications. I don't remember any of my devices doing that but I swiped yes and the rom booted.
One thing...there was an immediate notification telling me to update TWRP. I'm using the latest codeworks one so not sure if I should update or even if an update will work since I'm not on an official build. Have you encountered anything like this?

KLit75 said:
I now have codeworkx twrp, rooted with magisk. I gotta say I'm pretty impressed with stock but I KNOW I'm gonna want to flash a custom ROM soon and that's not a fast process when you're encrypted.
You said make a nandroid...have you ever restored just data from stock to a custom ROM? I may have but it's been awhile. I'm thinking I might have issues.
If I want to flash ROMs I'm going to need to format (better sooner than later) so from what I remember, I should:
1. Boot TWRP
2. Format data
3. Full wipe?
4. Adb push ROM, gapps, magisk
5. Flash all of them
I'm just hoping you or someone else can verify. I've got a lot of stuff to transfer over from my old phone but it makes no sense to do that now if I'm going to have to format. Thanks
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I got it. Running Dirty Unicorns now. It was a bit of an adventure. MTP would not work. Had to adb push the zip files. And then it booted back into TWRP asking to allow modifications. I don't remember any of my devices doing that but I swiped yes and the rom booted.
One thing...there was an immediate notification telling me to update TWRP. I'm using the latest codeworks one so not sure if I should update or even if an update will work since I'm not on an official build. Have you encountered anything like this?
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@KLit75
Stock is indeed good ROM. Many people use Beta which is equally good.
Some Custom ROMs do some do not support encryption. You may have to
read a bit in the ROM threads. Some TWRP are better for encryption as
well. Official TWRP perhaps catched up. You may may have to read a bit
in the TWRP threads.
When I went OOS 5.0.4 -> Custom (GZOSP) I had to format data and
become unencrypted.
I then reinstalled phone from scratch but had Titanium backup (for
accounts etc...) and also /data/media/0 backup (for some media).
So no: I never fully restored data from stock to a custom ROM. I did
restore some app data from Titanium backup though.
I have not restored encrypted TWRP stock backup either. I probably
never will, but I had asked around and read about it for all
certainty.
I believe one needs a special step which is to clean via stock
recovery and flash stock. Then one can perhaps restore whatever
encrypted TWRP backup. I hear different versions of ROMS may have
different encryption mechanisms. I am not authoritative on Android
encryption, read other threads.
You will need to search and ask if you want to go back to encrypted.
Perhaps it is easier than I tell here.
Note that I had backups (Titanium media TWRP) copied over to computer
for all certainty. I sometimes also work with OTG stick for copying in
both directions.
I think almost no experience is same for 2 people. That's why we all
tell slightly different stories. Trying to understand and master the
procedures is the challenge, and have many backups, and a way back.
No TWRP ever asked me to upgrade. I allow TWRP to make modifications.
My computer is Linux and I do not use MTP.
You can stay on codeworkx TWRP. Myself I did so but, eventually, since
I am unencrypted, I now am on official twrp-3.2.1-2-dumpling.
Recall also it is advised to always turn off lock screen Security
before taking a TWRP backup.
Good luck and enjoy your 5T.

HTC 10 decryption issue but not before

so I updated my HTC 10 US unlocked to 8.0.. unlocked bootloader, S-ON, twrp 3.3.1 and I was able to decrypt using format data and I installed lineageos 16 and confirmed decryption..later I wanted to try the viper rom. I ended up re flashing stock rom then recovery, and when I went to format data it didn't work. No matter what I try and what sequence...i read as of now tarp can't decrypt. But I've done it before. I even tried older versions of twrp including the one that supposedly fixes this. Any advice would be great thanks

Warwick555 said:
so I updated my HTC 10 US unlocked to 8.0.. unlocked bootloader, S-ON, twrp 3.3.1 and I was able to decrypt using format data and I installed lineageos 16 and confirmed decryption..later I wanted to try the viper rom. I ended up re flashing stock rom then recovery, and when I went to format data it didn't work. No matter what I try and what sequence...i read as of now tarp can't decrypt. But I've done it before. I even tried older versions of twrp including the one that supposedly fixes this. Any advice would be great thanks
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Read something about Nougat users being able to use twrp 3.2.3 as work around, but not oreo. This from memory, but check CaptainThrowback on Github to be sure. I'd drop a link here but not sure if that's cool?

AiNt said:
Read something about Nougat users being able to use twrp 3.2.3 as work around, but not oreo. This from memory, but check CaptainThrowback on Github to be sure. I'd drop a link here but not sure if that's cool?
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ok, thanks. i thought about going back to nougat and going with Viper until this gets fixed. i just need to find the RUU zip and not exe, or learn how to extract it on a linux ubuntu which im new at also

Recovery

What kind of recovery is recovery-oneplus7t-3.4.2-10.0-b26.img? is it the chinese TWRP one?

altojd said:
What kind of recovery is recovery-oneplus7t-3.4.2-10.0-b26.img? is it the chinese TWRP one?
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Yes

Where did you find it ?

Any idea why after flashing recovery-oneplus7t-3.4.2-10.0-b26.img (chinese twrp) being in recovery mode i don't see ANYTHING in sdcard?

altojd said:
Any idea why after flashing recovery-oneplus7t-3.4.2-10.0-b26.img (chinese twrp) being in recovery mode i don't see ANYTHING in sdcard?
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Please could you pm the link to this recovery please l think flashing this recovery will format your data because it changes the file system which is why it works

a g bell said:
Please could you pm the link to this recovery please l think flashing this recovery will format your data because it changes the file system which is why it works
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i found this recovery in msm extended telegram chat.
the installation did not format my data since i have all my apps working and i can see the entire internal storage when i connect the phone to pc.

I have this recovery on my device for a later time in case I decide to move away from OOS so I can't speak to experience...BUT:
My understanding is due to decryption/recovery on this device the chinese recovery will work BUT the limitations are that if you are on OOS currently you cannot decrypt storage, HENCE you will not see anything in TWRP (again that is my understanding). After backing up the device and wiping the data partition at minimum (most custom roms seem to require us to fastboot wipe our partitions from instructions ive read)... then we can use this version of recovery for custom roms.
I think the major difference between this one and the official version here is of course the unofficial nature of this twrp but also the chinese twrp will let you flash (not boot) the recovery image without issue so we can still USE OOS OR flash custom roms without things going...wrong?...I plan to wait until the A11 OOS upgrade before I make a decision. After learning about how 1P botched the recovery keys + partition issues with the A10 launch I think its just better to see how development goes AFTER the new year maybe

Hmm l was of the understanding that if you format using the chinese recovery all will work on oos will see what's what and report back as soon as l find it and flash it
So flashed Chinese twrp couldn't mount data until l formatted data using it then l could see everything in storage but it reverted after a reboot and would need formatting again to see storage also it seems much more functional that the mauronofrio twrp but the decryption issue is still an issue for me at least. It's ashame nobody is working on this to give us a better twrp.

a g bell said:
Hmm l was of the understanding that if you format using the chinese recovery all will work on oos will see what's what and report back as soon as l find it and flash it
So flashed Chinese twrp couldn't mount data until l formatted data using it then l could see everything in storage but it reverted after a reboot and would need formatting again to see storage also it seems much more functional that the mauronofrio twrp but the decryption issue is still an issue for me at least. It's ashame nobody is working on this to give us a better twrp.
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What's "this"? And what do you mean nobody?
Check twrp gerrit and github and you'll see lots of progress. Fastbootd has been implemented, and dynamic partitions are pretty much handled now. Only significant thing would be decryption, but let's hope Android 11 fixes this as Google once again has changed things regarding to keystore.

Lossyx said:
What's "this"? And what do you mean nobody?
Check twrp gerrit and github and you'll see lots of progress. Fastbootd has been implemented, and dynamic partitions are pretty much handled now. Only significant thing would be decryption, but let's hope Android 11 fixes this as Google once again has changed things regarding to keystore.
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Ok l stand corrected just wondering why mauronofrio hasn't released an update or updated his thread. So OnePlus have to implement changes to keystore with Android 11 so they might fix it ?

Full Nandroid Backup Solution for LineageOS 17??

I got Lineage 17 w/ Magisk root running now neat and great and I want to perform a full NANDroid Backup.
After some research it seems crucial to have a custom recovery like TWRP for that. There is the online nandroid thing - but I would need CWM or anything like this to restore?!
So my question is
a) is there another custom recovery (compatible with Pixel 3a XL w/ lineage 17 based on android 10) I can install and perform Nandroid backup with?
b) any other solution to perform this backup and restore? I heard there are cmd commands for that as well , but I'm a noobie not so sure to do that.
of course there are several apps out there to backup data.. but I don't trust ''any'' app to get root permission. In F Droid I couldn't find what I was looking for. Suggestion?
thank you for help!

It is unsafe to perform backups while booted into Android, as files may be changed/added/removed while the backup is taking place.
This is why it tends to be a feature of custom recoveries.
Titanium Backup is good. It doesn't support split APKs like YouTube but the data restore works flawlessly. This is an old utility app so you can trust it with root. You can find Titanium Backup on the play store, it is the one with the star and "root required".
If you want to perform full backups of your PHONE you will want TWRP. If you want to perform full backups of your APPS then you will want to use an app like Titanium Backup (however Titanium Backup is not updated for split APKs, like I said above), which will allow you to transfer your backups to a new phone and fully restore all apps & data (as long as both phones have root).

Sure problem is I want to perform a full backup of my phone, but TWRP ist not available. What are my options?

dadu1257 said:
Sure problem is I want to perform a full backup of my phone, but TWRP ist not available. What are my options?
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Does TWRP for Pixel 3a XL not work for you? All you have to do is download the "twrp-installer-3.4.0-0-bonito.zip", install it as a Magisk module, then direct install Magisk again, then reboot into recovery and you'll have TWRP.
When accepting OTAs, you will want to use the "TWRP A/B retention script" before you install Magisk to the inactive slot. The script is available as part of the Magisk modules repository, so you should be able to install it directly from within Magisk Manager.

TWRP doesnt work for me, see here what user 41rw4lk wrote, too..
Is there a tutorial on how to install twrp as a masgisk module?
Also, how else can I perform a backup img for my phone?
thank you

dadu1257 said:
TWRP doesnt work for me, see here what user 41rw4lk wrote, too..
Is there a tutorial on how to install twrp as a masgisk module?
Also, how else can I perform a backup img for my phone?
thank you
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https://puu.sh/GWiul/2611f0cdf4.mp4 - video showing how to install TWRP
Edit: https://puu.sh/GWiAe/6f620419c8.mp4 is more compatible and smaller. same video

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LoganDark said:
https://puu.sh/GWiul/2611f0cdf4.mp4 - video showing how to install TWRP
Edit: https://puu.sh/GWiAe/6f620419c8.mp4 is more compatible and smaller. same video
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Benn trying to get this to work for a little bit now and no luck at all....
Let me start by saying i an NOT running LOS so that might be the whole issue...
I have tried with pure stock and stock with ex kernel
Same results for each
1) TWRP loads as the recovery and can be booted into, BUT the rom is now soft bricked and wont boot at all
2) Even when in twrp I cannot flash anything, cannot see sdcard and cannot backup data partition (the data partition shows as 0 space)
Perhaps the LOS kernel or rom adds something thats missing in my two setups?
The sample video is for another phone. My recolection is that twrp and pixels on android 10 or 11 wont work. Lineageos 17.1 is android 10 based. I think it worked on that other phone as it was not a pixel.
Can anyone confirm or deny if this works in any configuration of android 10 or 11 on our phones?

adm1jtg said:
Benn trying to get this to work for a little bit now and no luck at all....
Let me start by saying i an NOT running LOS so that might be the whole issue...
I have tried with pure stock and stock with ex kernel
Same results for each
1) TWRP loads as the recovery and can be booted into, BUT the rom is now soft bricked and wont boot at all
2) Even when in twrp I cannot flash anything, cannot see sdcard and cannot backup data partition (the data partition shows as 0 space)
Perhaps the LOS kernel or rom adds something thats missing in my two setups?
The sample video is for another phone. My recolection is that twrp and pixels on android 10 or 11 wont work. Lineageos 17.1 is android 10 based. I think it worked on that other phone as it was not a pixel.
Can anyone confirm or deny if this works in any configuration of android 10 or 11 on our phones?
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Huh, that's weird... I apologize, I'm not very good at supporting devices I don't own. I'm not running Lineage either, I'm running stock plus mods.
It's possible that it doesn't work on your phone for whatever reason. There are a couple ways to install TWRP nowadays, check them out maybe? I promise TWRP is what you want for backups.

LoganDark said:
Huh, that's weird... I apologize, I'm not very good at supporting devices I don't own. I'm not running Lineage either, I'm running stock plus mods.
It's possible that it doesn't work on your phone for whatever reason. There are a couple ways to install TWRP nowadays, check them out maybe? I promise TWRP is what you want for backups.
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Agreed but twrp simply doesnt work on our phones, or even any pixel 3 or above. It can't read the partitions correctly. Just trying to keep people from soft bricking their phone. Something about andriod 10 and 11 and the phones a/b partition configuration

adm1jtg said:
Agreed but twrp simply doesnt work on our phones, or even any pixel 3 or above. It can't read the partitions correctly.
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Where did you hear this? I'll admit, I haven't heard about TWRP not working on Pixels, but it's relevant and it would be good to know if I ever help another Pixel user in the future.
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Something about andriod 10 and 11 and the phones a/b partition configuration
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That's interesting, because my OnePlus 7 Pro runs Android 10 with an A/B configuration and TWRP works just fine. Haven't found a single feature that didn't work. Flashing custom ROMs, changing boot slots, etc. all work fine. So it can't be the A/B configuration.

LoganDark said:
Where did you hear this? I'll admit, I haven't heard about TWRP not working on Pixels, but it's relevant and it would be good to know if I ever help another Pixel user in the future.
That's interesting, because my OnePlus 7 Pro runs Android 10 with an A/B configuration and TWRP works just fine. Haven't found a single feature that didn't work. Flashing custom ROMs, changing boot slots, etc. all work fine. So it can't be the A/B configuration.
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You can read through this:
[CLOSED]TWRP 3.3.1-1 for Pixel 3A XL [OFFICIAL]
Team Win Recovery Project 3.x, or TWRP3 for short, is a custom recovery built with ease of use and customization in mind. Its a fully touch driven user interface no more volume rocker or power buttons to mash. The GUI is also fully XML driven and...
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And this:
tips for preserving twrp from Pie to Q
hi i'm not an expert so sorry maybe for foolish question but coudn't find a clear answer yet.. i'm still on pie and twrp 3.3.1.1; i'd like to upgade to ten but preserving twrp (maybe upgrading to 3.4.0 if necessary) which are the steps to keep...
forum.xda-developers.com
No method I have tried results in anything but an unusable twrp or a boot loop. Cant even fastboot boot current version. All about dynamic partitions and lzma compression as I guess the partition isnt big enough. But bottom line is I have yet to find anyone including myself who can get twrp to in any way shape or form be usable on our phones for android 10 or newer.
this is what command prompt gives with fastboot boot
Sending 'boot.img' (65536 KB) OKAY [ 1.509s]
Booting FAILED (remote: 'Error verifying the received boot.img: Invalid Parameter')
This is likely due to the kernels I use likely not having lzma. Checking into it.
fastboot: error: Command failed

LoganDark said:
If you want to perform full backups of your PHONE you will want TWRP
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I'm not sure how reliable is that. I just did a backup of Lineage 17 in TWRP, System and Data, restored it a few hours later through OTG and it got stuck on a google boot screen... Now I installed the LOS 17 ROM again (which I had in internal storage) but restored only Data (excl. storage).
It boots up now, but most apps are corrupted - if I open them they crash ('App ... keeps stopping').
I wouldn't count on it. TWRP nandroid backup is very unreliable.

Question Poco f3 flash

Hi i want to flash my poco f3 do i need usb dongle so i can use sdcard to be safe?
And do i need to flash global miui before flash custom rom?

usb dongle ??
No need... just backup you data first
Yup.. better flash Official latest miui rom...continue with twrp.... and flash custom rom.
but you need unlocked bootloader for custom rom

Vuska said:
usb dongle ??
No need... just backup you data first
Yup.. better flash Official latest miui rom...continue with twrp.... and flash custom rom.
but you need unlocked bootloader for custom rom
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So i flash miui global in twrp before flash custom rom? Where can i find miui global?

__halvar__ said:
So i flash miui global in twrp before flash custom rom? Where can i find miui global?
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Xiaomi Firmware Updater
The ultimate script that provides firmware packages for Xiaomi devices.
xiaomifirmwareupdater.com
fastboot if using mi flash.
but... its very important to understand using mi flash and what to tick and what dont.
but if you already using latest official stable release and already unlocked bootloader... then you may continue with twrp..
there is thread about how to flash twrp and flash custom rom... you have to read that first
How to flash ROM and TWRP on POCO F3 / k40 / mi11x. And an explanation. A very important guide
Mandatory instructions for beginners (and not only beginners) to install ROM and other on poco f3 Prerequisite, unlocking the bootloader For questions, if something is not clear, please write to "Conversations", I will try to correct it in a post...
forum.xda-developers.com

Thanks yes its global miui so i can unlock bootloader flash twrp and then custom rom ?

__halvar__ said:
Hi i want to flash my poco f3 do i need usb dongle so i can use sdcard to be safe?
And do i need to flash global miui before flash custom rom?
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Let me tell you that twrp otg backups don't work at all. I have 2 USB c hard drives and twrp can't make a backup with them. I don't know why but it can't. I'm really unsure of this phone because there's really nothing you can do to backup anything. You flash a new rom and you have to format everything and start all over again. No music no apps no nothing. I don't even understand what fun that is? Every rom seems to have different instructions and it's a mess.

Techguy777 said:
But do a backup and then transfer it to pc ? And then to the phone ?
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I don't know if that will work I'm telling you don't get your hopes up because this phone is like an alien phone.

Techguy777 said:
I don't know if that will work I'm telling you don't get your hopes up because this phone is like an alien phone.
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how do you mean?

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how do you mean?
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Ive been doing the custom roms thing for about 4 or 5 years. It's always unlock bootloader, flash twrp, make twrp backup of data, system and boot. Flash magisk or custom rom.
Well now it's different there's no way to back it up. If I make a twrp backup to the internal storage and try to copy and paste it to my USB c ssd it fails it won't allow it. I don't understand if you try to make the backup in twrp it'll say backup failed. I have no idea why I can't make a backup that means I would have to flash stock to fix a bootloop lol it's ruining the twrp experience

There are so many guides on the internet. We don't need to repeat this. Use YouTube and Google.
Search "Poco F3 Flash Custom ROM" and "Poco F3 unlock bootloader"

@dreamytom Just reading a few threads here on xda would be enough to find almost all the answers you need ...

Techguy777 said:
Ive been doing the custom roms thing for about 4 or 5 years. It's always unlock bootloader, flash twrp, make twrp backup of data, system and boot. Flash magisk or custom rom.
Well now it's different there's no way to back it up. If I make a twrp backup to the internal storage and try to copy and paste it to my USB c ssd it fails it won't allow it. I don't understand if you try to make the backup in twrp it'll say backup failed. I have no idea why I can't make a backup that means I would have to flash stock to fix a bootloop lol it's ruining the twrp experience
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From a certain point of view you are right, but we should also give the developers some time to fix things.It is true, with previous versions of android it was easier to flash and without having to set everything up again, however, it is a phone with a more complicated system therefore the developments of the twrp are more complicated. Without forgetting that the entire development is supported only by donations and the rest is completely free ...

There are some tools too...if you are using same base os... you can use tool to backup and restore.
1. Migrate
backup you app (with data)
restore from twrp
(search it from xda)
2. Swift Backup.
3. Miui has backup and restore too.
but for your data (photos, videos etc) manually backup to your pc.
that's all..
yes, backup restore from twrp not work yet.

Vuska said:
There are some tools too...if you are using same base os... you can use tool to backup and restore.
1. Migrate
backup you app (with data)
restore from twrp
(search it from xda)
2. Swift Backup.
3. Miui has backup and restore too.
but for your data (photos, videos etc) manually backup to your pc.
that's all..
yes, backup restore from twrp not work yet.
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I already know about those app backups and it's really not the problem. You need to than make sure you have them stored on a USB C drive because if you format data than bye bye to those apps. Twrp we're the best and I didn't like the idea of no micro SD card but I figured oh well USB C drive will work.
With every android verison update we lose a little bit of root. It's not like when actually change anything to the system it will bootloop. We can't make system backups and now magisk hide is removed that one I don't care I never used it. There's a point when having root doesn't matter really and we're almost there. Coding is getting so complicated that after OEM updates stop I wouldn't be surprised if people can't build updated Android roms