Handling an SD card as internal memory - Moto G5S Questions & Answers

Hi,
I would like to insert a larger SD card into my Moto G5s (128 GB instead of 64 GB) - Android 8.1. Unfortunately, the SD card is currently used as internal memory (the memory is thus encrypted - i.e. I cannot see any pictures etc. when I insert the card into the card reader of my computer).
Now I do not know how to do the migration without losing data.
My attempts:
1. it is quite easy to copy the SD card via Linux to a larger SD card But the partition on the new one is as big as on the old one (64 GB). I have not found a program to change this. Is there something?
2. is there a way to convert the SD as internal memory to external memory without losing data? So far I have only found ways to migrate, but this is accompanied by data loss.
3. is there any possibility to decrypt the SD card in the device? Then I could unfortunately copy it or migrate the data etc.
4. backup: There are of course numerous backup possibilities; only which one really gives me the possibility to backup the SD card data completely to my PC. Using the normal Windows-Explorer I can only see a fraction of the entire data.
Many greetings
Alex

No ideas?

Maybe try booting into Linux and usw Command line to do something? I really dont know....
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Wait....is your bootloader locked?

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[Q] Change new memory card

i want to ask if i change a new memory card , after i format it to fat32 wat should i do next ? my friend done this but the phone still cant detect the sd card .. any solution ?
The phone should detect it after it has been formatted. If it's not detecting it, then something has gone wrong with the card or the phone. I suspect a dodgy card.
Really, all you have to do is this:
Backup your old card
Format your new card
copy the backup onto new card
That's all it should be, unless you're using A2SD or soemthing.
If you have multiple partitions, if you are using A2SD, then you might need something epic like Clonezilla to literally mirror the structure of the old SD card onto the new card. If after a format of FAT32 and the card isn't detected at all, then as the previous post said, the card is probably dud.
i going to buy class 10 8 gb memory card .. does it make the phone load the file faster ? or i juz get class 4 16g better
quantumandy said:
If you have multiple partitions, if you are using A2SD, then you might need something epic like Clonezilla to literally mirror the structure of the old SD card onto the new card. If after a format of FAT32 and the card isn't detected at all, then as the previous post said, the card is probably dud.
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A2SD transfer the easy way for users
1 - create a nandroid backup of everything (this includes the A2SD ext partition)
2 - backup EVERYTHING from the mem card to your pc!
3 - insert new mem card
4 - run rom manager (download it from the market if you have to!)
5 - partition the new card with rom manager (creating an ext partition as well)
6 - Copy everything from the pc BACK to the NEW card!!!!
7 - Restore the nandroid backup!!!!!!!!!
You now have the phone back to the exact state you started with but with a different memory card installed!
buffer size 8kb
Data size 10mb
Write : 5.27mb
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this is kingmax class 10 8gb memory card ..izit good ?
any memory card recommended?
keeyie said:
any memory card recommended?
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i'd also like to know some memory card recommendations.
i found a 16GB class 6, but they're mostly out of stock all places..
if 16gb got class 6 den i will get 1 =)

[Q] Replacing SD card

I have a rooted phone with an 8gb sd card in it where i store clockworkmod recoveries, backups, ROMs, many apps, media of course etc etc. So if ever I were to change the SD card in the phone, what is the correct procedure to do so such that I don't screw up the phone?
Has anybody else gone through this recently? Reason I ask is I am going to order a 32gb sd card (I believe up to 32 is supported) shortly.
Thanks
Nothing bad happened to me. My 8gb card no longer works so I had to replace it with my 2gb that came with it. There's no procedure with swapping sd cards in the phone, but you may wanna copy all the contents of your previous card to the desktop of your computer and transfer them to your new 1. If you reformatted your previous card to fat32 then do so with your new one. Pop it in and let it rip.
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Thanks! Seems easier than I was afraid it might be!
Soo, just copy and paste and put new card in? Is that it?
Yes, 32 Gb cards are supported. Make sure the new SD is formatted FAT32.
Don't remove or install any SD while device is powered on - unmount the SD, then power down to remove/reinstall SD.
Copy contents of old SD to PC so you'll have a backup - then copy to new SD, put in device, power on.
Noteworthy is if you use an AOSP ROM, many of those interact with SD during boot, so if you simply replace old with new and it isn't formatted FAT32 and/or do not have the contents of the old card on it, you will bootloop.
Recommend making period backups of SD to PC - monthly or some frequency meaningful to you ~ so you have a backup if/when SD card fails.

SD card and Internal memory

I just moved from the Sensation XE to the M8. The Sensation has a SD Card and the internal memory and no emulated SD Card.
So how do you control where the apps stored their data?
Is the SD card only for data (music, pictures and storage), and the emulated SD card in the internale memory for app data and such?
And finaly, where do you guys keep your nandroids - emulated SD Card og SD Card?
jkolner said:
Is the SD card only for data (music, pictures and storage), and the emulated SD card in the internale memory for app data and such?
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That's pretty much it. The internal memory is essentially an emulated SD card. App data, backups are going to be saved there by default. Nothing is going to be saved to the removable SD unless you take a specific action to do so.
jkolner said:
And finaly, where do you guys keep your nandroids - emulated SD Card og SD Card?
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I keep mine on the internal storage. Not even sure recovery will allow you to read/write a nandroid on the removable SD (although you can manually copy or move if you wanted).
But I normally just keep the latest known good nandroid on the phone, and move others to my computer "just in case".
Even with ROM zips, some folks have had issues with recovery (at least TWRP) not consistently recognizing the zip on the removable SD; even though you should be able to browse and find zips on either the internal memory or removable SD. It seems safest/easiest to have the ROM zip on the internal memory (or at least know how to adb push it there).
redpoint73 said:
That's pretty much it. The internal memory is essentially an emulated SD card. App data, backups are going to be saved there by default. Nothing is going to be saved to the removable SD unless you take a specific action to do so.
I keep mine on the internal storage. Not even sure recovery will allow you to read/write a nandroid on the removable SD (although you can manually copy or move if you wanted).
But I normally just keep the latest known good nandroid on the phone, and move others to my computer "just in case".
Even with ROM zips, some folks have had issues with recovery (at least TWRP) not consistently recognizing the zip on the removable SD; even though you should be able to browse and find zips on either the internal memory or removable SD. It seems safest/easiest to have the ROM zip on the internal memory (or at least know how to adb push it there).
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So when you flash a new custom rom, is the emulated SD Card left alone or is it also wiped?
jkolner said:
So when you flash a new custom rom, is the emulated SD Card left alone or is it also wiped?
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Usually left alone, but there is a buggy TWRP, possibly official 2.8.0.2, that has wiped cards, if I have followed correctly.
TWRP can write backups to external card and read from there too. That's what I do.
BenPope said:
TWRP can write backups to external card and read from there too. That's what I do.
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Good to know, I was wondering exactly that.
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jkolner said:
So when you flash a new custom rom, is the emulated SD Card left alone or is it also wiped?
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Just answered the same question over here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55778210&postcount=2

Recover data from encrypted SD card as internal memory ??

My SD CARD was internal media storage. my phone got formatted. now showing the SD card as unsupported .. any way to get back data of previous card ..or to make it as internal memory without lossing my previous data??

SD as Internal storage: can i know where my data will be saved ?

Hi all,
i've put an new SD card in my HTC 10. It was said that it would be encrypted, so i thought great, and also that it would behave as an extension of the internal storage, therefore many apps could be installed.
On the contrary, if it is formatted as an external storage, then not all apps accept to be moved onto it, so that even with a huge SD card, i may face a space problem on the internal storage at some point, if i install too many apps there.
Question 1 though: are the photos/videos/screenshots/music etc really stored on the SD ? Or onle once the internal storage is full ?
For example, one of my videos is on /storage/emulated/0/DCIM/100MEDIA/MYVIDEO123.mp4
Is that the SD? or the internal? or is there no possibility to know just from the path?
Question 2: is it true that if i factory reset the phone, the SD card will also loose all its data, photos, videos etc ?
If that is the case, is there any real davantage of using an SD as internal storage ?
A positive scenario i would see is to use it indeed as an internal storage and do online backups of my photos/videos etc.
For the moment i was quite happy with my previous phones to use the SD as external storage and the data there being unaffected by whatever system changes on the phone. A bit like two partitions of a PC. One for the OS and one for the data.
While if i merge the two, even if i can see the advantage of doing that, it's again the old-time merging system and data.
How do you guys deal with that ?
Thanks a lot,
Adrien
About Question 1, you can format it as internal, put that video and simply unmount or eject card. You will see what happen. You can always format that card as portable so you don't lose.
About Q2: From what i know, yes. It's true, because your card is treated as internal storage, so it will be wiped and after that your phone will "say" that your sd card is corrupted. You will need to reformat SD card.
IMO Adopting SD Card as internal memory is a bad idea, at least for me. OK, you will have encrypted data and unusable in another phone, but SD cards aren't "speed demons", and for me SD cards are intended as portable data storage, not as internal memory.
ShadoV90 said:
About Question 1, you can format it as internal, put that video and simply unmount or eject card. You will see what happen. You can always format that card as portable so you don't lose.
About Q2: From what i know, yes. It's true, because your card is treated as internal storage, so it will be wiped and after that your phone will "say" that your sd card is corrupted. You will need to reformat SD card.
IMO Adopting SD Card as internal memory is a bad idea, at least for me. OK, you will have encrypted data and unusable in another phone, but SD cards aren't "speed demons", and for me SD cards are intended as portable data storage, not as internal memory.
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Thank you ShadoV90. That makes things clearer for me.

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