Request : is it possible to make a debloated stock based rom - Samsung Galaxy A70 Questions & Answers

hello so the custom rom development is moving at a slow rate, understandably because this device is not so popular among developers, still the ones who are working on our device are doing a great job, but currently rooting the device and what else is not straight forward and seems encombersom, for me at least because of the lack of time, so long story short is it possible for someone to make a custom debloated rom based on one ui possibly flashable via odin, and if so can i still get ota updates or will this trip knox ?

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[YOUR OPINION] good rom for Xperia S only

--- I did search but due to ever changing builds and time required to test roms for bugs I need up to date info ---
Hi, I got my Xperia S few days ago and I was planning to use Galaxy S+ as a main phone until a decent 4.2.2 rom will come out but now S+ goes to someone else in a family and I'll be left with Xperia S only.
I tried few 4.2.2 roms in a free time but now I need to get my phone up and running for daily use (which requires all or most functionality). As I have not enough time to try and test all of them I kindly ask you to recommend most stable and functional rom. If it based on stock or aosp/cm 4.1.2 I don't care but if I could choose from many I would prefer clean/vanilla/non-themed rom. I don't care about 'extreme' 'ultra' 'blazing fast' too if it comes in exchange for wifi router or bugfree camera. Or should I go back to original .200/.211 firmware?
Please advise as I can't afford time for flashing roms until I find a good one.
Thank you for understanding my situation.
try this
i dont quite know what your looking for but i suggest you look at this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1950706
I suggest cyanogen mod rom or Aokp for no bugs, if not that FLASH a stock rom and wait for the next update for the XS that "Tackles all the bugs"
I'd say go for stock based ROM's which have small app, walkman, BE and where everything works... This is my favourite one
link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2266993
If you really want vanilla android, go for PAC ROM. It combines features from Paranoid Android, CM and AOKP, plus most of it works, but it doesn't have a great battery life...
I do know about this rom list and I would test them all but as I said I have no time for that and I need -fully- working and solid rom without force closes, obvious bugs etc. as soon as possible for everyday work.
Someone recommended eXistenZ rom before and I will try that for next couple of days and if that will be a disappointment I will roll back to stock .200 until further development results.
I tried PAC 4.2.2 and it's really messed up/not ready for daily use. I have a bad feeling about roms that use various sources stitched up together. On previous phones I only liked pure AOSP or CM as they were most solid.
Please add more opinions or tell me that something I'm looking for does not exist yet I had been waiting for fully working roms for a long time before. Let's hope it's a different story with this device
stock will always be the most stable since it has all official drivers
now, if you wanna ask about which custom rom is better, you'll always receive a biased opinion due to user preferences..just go ahead and flash one so you'll get a feel for them
my search for good custom rom comes from experience with Samsung Galaxy S+ where stock roms are garbage, bloated, ugly and bugged even more than stock .200 for Xperia S but after some waiting smart devs came up with 99% perfect 4.0.4 and 4.2.2 based on AOSP and CM - without official support from those projects.
I was hoping that development for Xperia S will be more advanced since it's more mainstream phone rather than 'let's give original Samsung S some experimental hardware upgrades and leave it behind because we have more popular phones to worry about'. I'm sure it's just a matter of time (and just another driver fix from Sony) when our devs will release perfect working rom.
prohibeat said:
I do know about this rom list and I would test them all but as I said I have no time for that and I need -fully- working and solid rom without force closes, obvious bugs etc. as soon as possible for everyday work.
Someone recommended eXistenZ rom before and I will try that for next couple of days and if that will be a disappointment I will roll back to stock .200 until further development results.
I tried PAC 4.2.2 and it's really messed up/not ready for daily use. I have a bad feeling about roms that use various sources stitched up together. On previous phones I only liked pure AOSP or CM as they were most solid.
Please add more opinions or tell me that something I'm looking for does not exist yet I had been waiting for fully working roms for a long time before. Let's hope it's a different story with this device
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You could try pac 19.3 a 4.1.2 rom
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Custom rom Failure

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Please do not flash any of custom rom (Note 4 /Unikat etc) they all have Bug and which is still not be clear and regularly developing the series. My personal exp after flashing all rom is very sad. Stuck to stock rom one best the rom made by Samsung. Sorry to say but none of developer have made a rom without bug. Please wait for official lollipop or cyanogenmod rom
Thanks for sharing your experience :thumbup:
I share the same concerns. So far, there hasn't been a single ROM out there that'd convince me to try out. I check the few custom ROM threads regularly and the last comments are almost always about bugs and not just small ones as well. Some ROMs can't connect to WiFi's, others loose 3/4G connection for no discernible reasons, many have missing features (like clearing the notifications with one button etc.). Seems to be that these ROMs are really on their Beta stage right now.
For my customization needs, I switched to custom launchers and theming. Works for me for the time being. Hopefully, there would be a proper CM ROM for the N3N sometime in the future (although I wouldn't hold my breath for it).
I just realized, even for the S4 Mini, there is a CM12. Bloody hell: this phone doesn't get any support at ALL!

Advice on stock vs custom ROM for non-technical person

Many people have a similar situation where you are wondering if you should keep stock or install a custom ROM on relative's phone, who is not a technical person.
I am wondering if it is better to keep the latest stock Android 4.3 on the Nexus (European version) or if I should upgrade it to a very stable almost stock custom ROM?
I will only be able to provide "maintenance" every 2 months.
My main goal of installing a custom ROM would be to keep it updated with the latest security patches, not so much to have the latest version of android running.
Is it so bad to keep 4.3 running on a phone when its user doesn't really need 4.4 or higher feature?
As you said, custom roms are more updated on security patches. Another reason that custom rom is better, is the additttional features offering. I have installed on many friends of mine custom roms without having any issues. On the contrary, if they change smartphone, they are seeking for those features on their new phone. When they realize that those features were custom things, they disappointed. The most custom roms have less bugs than the official build.
I would definitely recommend to flash custom ROM to your Nexus.
Our phone is really good maintained by our developers, so you can choose from many custom ROMs.
They will provide you more performace, better battery life and some nice features, that stock ROM can't offer you.
My personal option is the CM11 with custom kernel (Fancy, Franco or any other).
Don't try Lollipop ROMs now, because they are still unstable and have some bugs.
I had the same questions. Now though, after actually using a custom ROM I can confidently say that custom ROMs are the way to go.
The Galaxy Nexus wouldn't be alive today if it wasn't for custom ROMs. They keep us updated to the latest android versions and not only that, but the features they add become essential to how you use your device.
And you're blessed to have a Galaxy Nexus. It's so easy to install custom ROMs on nexus devices.
Now that I've used them, I can't use my phone without them.
@leto78
I say go for it! Just make sure you evaluate the knowledge/needs of the end user first, and let that guide your choice.
Example 1 - you're looking for a ROM for a not-very-tech-savvy user, so you need it to be as stable and problem-free as possible. You'd probably be best served by a 4.4 ROM that's been out for a while and has a long development/history of improvement.
Example 2 - your end user is reasonably tech-savvy, knows their way around Android and knows about the different versions, and also knows not to freak out or call you yelling "you broke my phone!" if there is an issue. In this case, check the known issues/bug reports for the 5.0-based ROMs and pick one with the fewest "daily driver" related issues.
I agree with use of an aftermarket ROM just due to the frequent updates and security fixes the stock ROM isn't getting. All the aftermarket ROM's I've tried are solid for stability. If you want to stick with stock, I do recommend rooting it to address a couple bugs.
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Is my phone worth rooting?

I have a D855 v30n - and I have a few questions.
1. Is this device worth rooting?
2. If so what is the best way of rooting this device?
2. Is it worth flashing a custom rom onto this device?
3. If so, which custom rom works the best on this device?
Any help is appreciated - Thanks in advance.
In my opinion it is worth rooting assuming you will install a custom rom so this answers two questions.
Now as for the rom it is a matter of taste but i find fulmics rom 6.7 to be working perfect with zero bugs. It improves the overall speed and user interface also addessing some overheating issues.
The other choices are cm/ aosp based roms that alters ur phone completelly, losing some functionality and gain some other.
After a cycle of trying many roms stock based or aosp i prefer stock based but u have to make ur own opinion on that.
As for the method i wont answer as i dont remember the steps, its not hard but if you are not familiar with the concept of rooting then think carefully before you proceed and do alot of research.
Johzio said:
In my opinion it is worth rooting assuming you will install a custom rom so this answers two questions.
Now as for the rom it is a matter of taste but i find fulmics rom 6.7 to be working perfect with zero bugs. It improves the overall speed and user interface also addessing some overheating issues.
The other choices are cm/ aosp based roms that alters ur phone completelly, losing some functionality and gain some other.
After a cycle of trying many roms stock based or aosp i prefer stock based but u have to make ur own opinion on that.
As for the method i wont answer as i dont remember the steps, its not hard but if you are not familiar with the concept of rooting then think carefully before you proceed and do alot of research.
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Thanks for responding, I have already previously rooted an LG G3 D855 but it was running on an older firmware and was stuck on android lollipop. I was running cloudy g3 on that one and it worked fine for a few months and then out of nowhere the device was completely bricked (this is why I'm asking if it's worth flashing a cutom ROM again)

Are android custom roms still worth it?

Dear folks,
a few months ago I brought my Nexus 5x and consigering that I was using my Samsung Galaxy S3 before a new world opened for me instantly. Now I have the Android version on my phone that is current right now actually. I have a clean user interface to interact with and the most satisfying point is that I am not forced to use my phone with such an amount of bloatware as it was the case with samsung.
In the past I used my GS3 only with custom roms like cynaogenmod (R.I.P.) because of this ugly and laggy touchwiz. With this way I was able to consume the new android versions aswell and profit from the pure stock android experience I newer was allowed to consume with samsungs software trash.
Now I owned my N5x and things changed. Now it is self-evident, that I can experience stock android. My device doesn't lag with any task anymmore and I got not too much unnecessary apps preinstalled. Well I rooted my device and finally got the best android experience since I use smartphones. No more wishes unfulfilled.
That got me thinking...
I really loved the fact, that I was able to flash any rom on my previous phone that I wanted to and I was not willing to use my phone without these. But now when I got my nexus I do not see the advantages of custom roms anymore.
I do not need to flash a custom rom to get stock android.
I do not need to flash a custom rom to get the newest android version. The opposite is even the case since the nexus devices get every update first.
Thank to the community behind the nexus series even the additional features of some custom roms aren't an argument anymore considering the fact, that most features came out as a flashable zip file for the stock roms or I use substratum or xposed (when it finally arrives in nougat :angel: ).
So I considered wether I should give lineage OS for the N5x a try or not and I do not see the point why I should flash it. I would not get anything in addition, that I miss now I guess.
So what du you think, guys? Are android custom roms still worth it? Why should I flash a custom rom? Why do you do it? Let me know in the comments.
If you are happy with stock, why change it??
I use custom ROM just for ease of theming. And some shuttle customisations.
Lineage OS does not include theming, so i won't go for it. If you want to experiment, try something with OMS7 theming baked in. My daily driver is ABC ROM.
I used the stock ROM for a very long time, and was very happy with it. In fact, switching to a custom ROM saw very little difference, esp in look/feel of the OS. You are absolutely right that the main reasons for a custom ROM are negated by the fact that we're running a stock android that gets updated very frequently.
That said, I will say that after using a custom ROM/kernel, I don't really want to go back to stock. I could if I need to, and would work fine, but there are a number of small things that I am using that I really like. I get MUCH better battery life on a rooted ROM with kernel. I can set up custom profiles for doing what I need to do, when I need to do it. Some of the Magisk camera modules for these are great, and recording video is much better (60fps with EIS). I also don't like having my /data encrypted, as I feel like it slows the phone down for no reason.
So yeah, stock is fantastic, but there are small things that do make it worth it.
tobir97 said:
Dear folks,
a few months ago I brought my Nexus 5x and consigering that I was using my Samsung Galaxy S3 before a new world opened for me instantly. Now I have the Android version on my phone that is current right now actually. I have a clean user interface to interact with and the most satisfying point is that I am not forced to use my phone with such an amount of bloatware as it was the case with samsung.
In the past I used my GS3 only with custom roms like cynaogenmod (R.I.P.) because of this ugly and laggy touchwiz. With this way I was able to consume the new android versions aswell and profit from the pure stock android experience I newer was allowed to consume with samsungs software trash.
Now I owned my N5x and things changed. Now it is self-evident, that I can experience stock android. My device doesn't lag with any task anymmore and I got not too much unnecessary apps preinstalled. Well I rooted my device and finally got the best android experience since I use smartphones. No more wishes unfulfilled.
That got me thinking...
I really loved the fact, that I was able to flash any rom on my previous phone that I wanted to and I was not willing to use my phone without these. But now when I got my nexus I do not see the advantages of custom roms anymore.
I do not need to flash a custom rom to get stock android.
I do not need to flash a custom rom to get the newest android version. The opposite is even the case since the nexus devices get every update first.
Thank to the community behind the nexus series even the additional features of some custom roms aren't an argument anymore considering the fact, that most features came out as a flashable zip file for the stock roms or I use substratum or xposed (when it finally arrives in nougat :angel: ).
So I considered wether I should give lineage OS for the N5x a try or not and I do not see the point why I should flash it. I would not get anything in addition, that I miss now I guess.
So what du you think, guys? Are android custom roms still worth it? Why should I flash a custom rom? Why do you do it? Let me know in the comments.
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1st mate welcome to stock community of android, that happen when you buy a nexus(pixel now) , stock rom is perfect!! i change time to time roms, now i use stock/lockbooloader. there 2 reasons,well if you like more..... the are 2 tipes of ppl...
lets start form the basic.
1) why you pick a nexus? the most classic answer to this is.... cose i like the stock experience(true that is great) and cose is the only devices that take 1st and fastest updates for 2 years(true that too )
2) and now comes the question. sould i root my nexus? and why i do this, the phone feels great, is fast and not lag at all.
the answer to this is cose with an unlockbootloader a new world opens to custom roms,kernels,mods/apks/themes. yes the icons and feels is more or less the same... but is not the same 100%!!
so in your case think what realy you want from a custom rom before you unlock the bootloader, the reason that some times i root my nexus is 3....1)cose i like to have a tone of customaze in settings/nav bars/themes etc 2) i like the daily or weekly updates God i love the icon in notification bar when i see it LOL.. 2)and finally some better battery life with a custom kernel!!
so next time think what you want from a custom rom!!
i have test a lot of them!!
if you like customized settings etc LOS(lineage os) is not good! los is stable/daily rom with daily updates/support with some extras in settings but not big deal, is close to stock when it comes to customized!!
full customazed roms and good for daily use is DIRTY UNICORNS D.U // RESURACTION REMIX A.K.A RR // TESLA,VALIDUS ROMS // BLISS ROM // AND OFC PURE NEXUS P.N
but other roms like android ice cold project a.k.a A.I.C.P and Mokee rom is good fast or daily support updates.
p.s sry for my bad english!! i hope to help you!
crazyates said:
I used the stock ROM for a very long time, and was very happy with it. In fact, switching to a custom ROM saw very little difference, esp in look/feel of the OS. You are absolutely right that the main reasons for a custom ROM are negated by the fact that we're running a stock android that gets updated very frequently.
That said, I will say that after using a custom ROM/kernel, I don't really want to go back to stock. I could if I need to, and would work fine, but there are a number of small things that I am using that I really like. I get MUCH better battery life on a rooted ROM with kernel. I can set up custom profiles for doing what I need to do, when I need to do it. Some of the Magisk camera modules for these are great, and recording video is much better (60fps with EIS). I also don't like having my /data encrypted, as I feel like it slows the phone down for no reason.
So yeah, stock is fantastic, but there are small things that do make it worth it.
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You cant use custom kernel on stock rom? or mods like the 60 fps recording? I thought you could
I always use custom roms because of the personalization. Not themes but features, some of them are great. Also updating is so easy just download zip and flash from recovery.
Stock rom OTAs encrypt data and install stock recovery and I dont like that, also It is said custom roms are smoother. I still have to try pixel rom though, which is based on stock rom
I wrote this question for my pixel last week. It's probably bc I've been flashing for a long time but it's nice when things work correctly which sometimes doesn't happen with custom ROMs. For me I've been happy with stock but with a custom kernel and root. I still use root and a customer kernel cleans up the performance but stock rom is good for me.
Javi22 said:
You cant use custom kernel on stock rom? or mods like the 60 fps recording? I thought you could
I always use custom roms because of the personalization. Not themes but features, some of them are great. Also updating is so easy just download zip and flash from recovery.
Stock rom OTAs encrypt data and install stock recovery and I dont like that, also It is said custom roms are smoother. I still have to try pixel rom though, which is based on stock rom
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I think you mis-read what I meant earlier, or (more probably) I wasn't clear. When I meant "stock", I meant 100% stock, meaning stock ROM, stock kernel, locked bootloader, no root, etc.
If you used a stock ROM with a custom kernel and Magisk, you could get a lot of those same things, I'm sure. There are still small reasons why I like Pure Nexus ROM, tho, like the battery bar tweaks (removing the icon and having a thin bar on the top), night mode, the Pixel launcher, etc. Plus, I don't have to have the FULL gapps suite, I can only have what I want installed.
crazyates said:
I think you mis-read what I meant earlier, or (more probably) I wasn't clear. When I meant "stock", I meant 100% stock, meaning stock ROM, stock kernel, locked bootloader, no root, etc.
If you used a stock ROM with a custom kernel and Magisk, you could get a lot of those same things, I'm sure. There are still small reasons why I like Pure Nexus ROM, tho, like the battery bar tweaks (removing the icon and having a thin bar on the top), night mode, the Pixel launcher, etc. Plus, I don't have to have the FULL gapps suite, I can only have what I want installed.
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Ok ok then, I understand now haha, I might miss read no problem
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Coming from flashing ROMs and kernels on an HTC EVO, Galaxy S2, S3, and S5, it was nice to finally be on stock and not feel the need to do it anymore. I was going to after a few months but updates really improved the experience for me compared to it's original release.
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I won't buy a phone that doesn't have the ability to run custom roms. Particularly, CM / Lineage. So for example, the Pixel is out.
1. I get to choose what starts up with during boot up.
2. I get to stop unnecessary apps from running in the background. Guess what I don't want an app running if I don't have it open. Turns out my wife doesn't either for most of her apps. Do you need apps chew through mobile data or tracking your every move even though you don't have them open?
3. I block many apps from data / wifi entirely. They can't load junk like ads, phone home etc.
4. I easily block various applications from my data, as needed. A game does not need access to my contacts, etc.
5. There is still a lot of customization that can be done in the custom roms in regards to layout and such that is not in stock roms.
I realize that some of those things can be done in the stock ROM once you are rooted, or there are work around ways to do sort of do these in other ways without root, however many those are just some of the things I can list off the top of my head that you can only sort of do or only partially do in stock form.
(It's been a long time since I've run a stock ROM, so let me know if it's changed, I could be off base?)
We're not talking kernels, but once you starting tweaking the kernel, plus keep all the crap from running in the background you can get decent battery life out of this phone.

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