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I picked up a T-Mobile S4 on amazon for a pretty good price. This price wasn't "too good to be true" or anything like that, it was just a fair price for what I think is already a decently "mature" device.
Anyway, the phone is in like new condition and the owner had it presumably for about 6 months at least. I know this because he indicated that he had it in an otter-like case for that amount of time.
The first thing I immediately noticed was how fast the battery drained. He shipped the phone with the battery fully charged but still I just noticed that customizing things and changing settings I seemed to lose battery very quickly. My experience may be biased by my past two devices the Xperia Z Ultra and the Note 2 both which have large batteries, however, I installed CarbonRom and still experience what I believe to be abnormal battery drain.
Also, the top half of the phone gets noticeably warm from normal usage like web browsing or flipping through app settings. I do NOT game. The is a distinct difference between how the top half of the phone feels versus the bottom half. It's mostly centralized around the camera. I used gsam to check the temperature of the battery and it does seem normal, however, my brightness is like ~20% and I don't know, my friend who is also on Carbon says he gets amazing battery life. I feel let down by how quickly this thing drains and as I continue to say I don't think it is normal. I ordered a spare RAVPower 2600mah battery to see if there's a problem with the battery but I'm really not hopeful.
What do you guys think?
I too was disappointed with the M919 when I first got it. I have another S4 (i9505) which is rooted I get great battery life using the same sim card. My guess is the LTE radio is what sucks up the juice.
I have rooted it today just to install intelli3g and it does help save battery life. This app automatically switches to 2G, 3G, 4G and LTE depending on what you tell it to do. It's like a tasker type app.
Try to disable apps like google+ and the like if you haven't done so.
Also don't forget to disable Wifi scanning and Wifi on during sleep.
And if you really don't need "Data" to be on all the time, turn it off.
Dajinn said:
I picked up a T-Mobile S4 on amazon for a pretty good price. This price wasn't "too good to be true" or anything like that, it was just a fair price for what I think is already a decently "mature" device.
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A bad battery would be my first thought. It's logical. It fits the facts you present. And it's a common problem.
Plus it's a $10 fix.
I would doubt the drain was software related if you get the same bad battery results with a completely different ROM.
And I'd doubt that it's hardware related because a hardware fault that will drain the battery fast is likely a hardware fault that will prevent the phone from working at all. battery drain is caused by short circuits. Electronics don't work and play well with short circuits.
So I think you are being reasonable by trying a new battery. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect it to help.
If you want to squeeze out every possible second of battery life, check out the link in my signature about battery like while idle as well. It'll show you how to improve your battery life.
I barely got this tablet yesterday and already seeing fast battery drain. I don't have that much apps/games. I rooted it today in the afternoon but I don't think it will drain the battery.... What's the deal here?
This is my 10.1
geeshiet said:
I barely got this tablet yesterday and already seeing fast battery drain. I don't have that much apps/games. I rooted it today in the afternoon but I don't think it will drain the battery.... What's the deal here?
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There's always an initial drain that is rather fast due to the fact that the charging is not perfectly optimized, notably while it's new. Even though it says 100% it's most likely not the fact. On the other hand due to the large screen the screen uses a lot of power. When using Cyanogen for maybe 20-30 min/day I'm still at 97% the next morning w/o charging. But, I use a lot of mods and settings trying to optimize battery usage. Once you get used to the device and start experimenting with ROM's, settings, mods I'm sure you will find a way to optimize it to your flavor.
The tablet has to scan all directories for media.
Here are some really good tips. You can also shut off a lot of samsung bloatware. I have probably 50 things shut off along with below tips I get amazing battery life and never any lag. Not a fan of magazine touchwiz so using nova and couldn't be happier.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2782239
For a new device, you need to cycle the battery to about 10%, then fully charge, to set the battery meter "high" and "low" flags (some call this "calibrating the battery meter"), before you can expect the battery meter readings to be anywhere accurate.
I thought people were just exaggerating (i still have hope that i'm exaggerating) but man, i just got this phone and holy hell is the battery getting destroyed by "android os"
It won't even last a day with minimal/medium usage (some bluetooth and hotspot use here and there)
I'm coming from a galaxy s3 (which had better battery life).
I've tried installing a 5.1.1 rom but it seems to have no effect.
Has anyone figured out how to 'fix' this? Or can recommend a good rom (or kernel?) to get battery life representative of what i think a 3000 mah battery should be?
Thanks.
rotatorkuf said:
I thought people were just exaggerating (i still have hope that i'm exaggerating) but man, i just got this phone and holy hell is the battery getting destroyed by "android os"
It won't even last a day with minimal/medium usage (some bluetooth and hotspot use here and there)
I'm coming from a galaxy s3 (which had better battery life).
I've tried installing a 5.1.1 rom but it seems to have no effect.
Has anyone figured out how to 'fix' this? Or can recommend a good rom (or kernel?) to get battery life representative of what i think a 3000 mah battery should be?
Thanks.
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Greenify and the .97 OTA seems to provide decent battery life. Getting about 5 hours+ of SOT. Try using a separate app to see which apps are consuming the most battery and disable all the system apps you don't use.
I installed a barebones rom.
What concerns me is i had the same set up on my Galaxy S3 (5.1.1. lollipop with same apps), and the battery life on this zenfone has just been atrocious (leading me to believe 5.1.1 is not the problem, per se).
Am I wrong, did they not optimize this phone properly or something?
I do not have any issue with batery life. Mine last one day easy with medium to heavy use. Just do some charging cycles
I usually get a day with 4 to 6 hours SOT, without doing anything special to save battery
Do 3 drains to 1 % - you may find it stays longer during the lower 20% range so use a youtube film or sommat to blast it down,
then do a factory reset on the latest build.
Did this at the beginning when was only getting 10hrs max ugh !
Now easy 36hrs decent usage
I get a full days use (medium/heavy) with mine, not rooted not custom rom. I usually have about 20% left before it hits the charger. I have noticed small increases in battery life at every firmware update. I can't really complain, came from a Galaxy S5 and battery was about the same if not worst, but S5 had removeable battery. I've used a lot of smartphones and honestly, most will get your through the day and evening but that's about it, yeah, you might have some for the next day but most will through it on the charger by end of the night. My wife has the Iphone 4s and yeah, the battery lasts longer but the screen is almost half the size of mine, screen size makes a big dif.
When I got this phone back in October, the battery would last around 25-30+ hours. I would take it off the charger at 6am, and at 10pm it would have around 40% left at least. After the February update, it started to go downhill. By the time Q was released, it was just bad. It's at under 50% now at about 8-9 hours off the charger. By 10pm, it's on battery saver and down to 8-15%. Like, it just went to total sheet. I did go to Q, but the battery life has been about the same.
I haven't installed anything new really. I've even been uninstalling apps to see if anything helps. GSAM battery monitor doesn't show any irregularities in any of the apps I use though. So, I wonder if the battery itself is just crapping out? I use the Pixel stand, and I'm aware wireless charging can degrade a battery quicker, but this is just ridiculous!
Anyone else experiencing this? Did you find a way to fix it?
I'm otherwise going to wait until DP2 to see if that helps, otherwise I am probably going to call Google for a replacement.
Also, I did a factory reset before Q, and that didn't help whatsoever.
Maybe the battery was new at that time so you were getting at 10pm around 40% left at least.
I used to get around 45% left at 05pm, which is about 12 hours from charging before and after q.
In order to avoid disturbance, iam charging it at 06am 100%, then recharging again at 02pm (battery level about 65) so it will stay about 60% at 10pm.
Iam heavy user, screen is on for long time.
I am also using s10+ and mate 20 pro, both have much better batteries.
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When I got this phone back in October, the battery would last around 25-30+ hours. I would take it off the charger at 6am, and at 10pm it would have around 40% left at least. After the February update, it started to go downhill. By the time Q was released, it was just bad. It's at under 50% now at about 8-9 hours off the charger. By 10pm, it's on battery saver and down to 8-15%. Like, it just went to total sheet. I did go to Q, but the battery life has been about the same.
I haven't installed anything new really. I've even been uninstalling apps to see if anything helps. GSAM battery monitor doesn't show any irregularities in any of the apps I use though. So, I wonder if the battery itself is just crapping out? I use the Pixel stand, and I'm aware wireless charging can degrade a battery quicker, but this is just ridiculous!
Anyone else experiencing this? Did you find a way to fix it?
I'm otherwise going to wait until DP2 to see if that helps, otherwise I am probably going to call Google for a replacement.
Also, I did a factory reset before Q, and that didn't help whatsoever.
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If you think your battery is already on its way out you can download AccuBattery. Run it through a few charge cycle and it will give you an estimate of the overall health of your battery. This could help you see if your battery has gone bad vs the updates making battery life worse. I'm honestly leaning towards the updates making things worse. You could also have wakelocks that are preventing your device from going into deep sleep as well. If you're rooted Better Battery Stats is a solid app to help you detect any wakelocks that are preventing your device from going into deep sleep. Good luck!
My battery is not good but I wouldn't say its terrible . It drains pretty quick on standby so I turned off AOD. It drains pretty quick too during usage. I don't think it's a hardware problem, more of poor optimisation. I don't think the battery on the next pixels will be much greater even with a 4000 mah battery because Google relies heavily on sending information back to its servers hence data is always working in the background. Ads are starting to pop up everywhere in most of Google's apps if youve noticed.
Curious what would happen if you restrict Android system in battery manager, does anyone know if it's bad in any way?
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If you think your battery is already on its way out you can download AccuBattery. Run it through a few charge cycle and it will give you an estimate of the overall health of your battery. This could help you see if your battery has gone bad vs the updates making battery life worse. I'm honestly leaning towards the updates making things worse. You could also have wakelocks that are preventing your device from going into deep sleep as well. If you're rooted Better Battery Stats is a solid app to help you detect any wakelocks that are preventing your device from going into deep sleep. Good luck!
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So, I checked out Accubattery, and it shows my battery health at 97%, so, maybe it's not the battery after all. I'm still getting 5+ hours SOT, but I was getting that before while having the battery last WAY longer. I actually called Google, and they want to send me a replacement, but, all my funds are tied up in a home loan, so, I can't do it until we close... End of May I'll have a replacement lol.
Thanks for your suggestion though!
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So, I checked out Accubattery, and it shows my battery health at 97%, so, maybe it's not the battery after all. I'm still getting 5+ hours SOT, but I was getting that before while having the battery last WAY longer. I actually called Google, and they want to send me a replacement, but, all my funds are tied up in a home loan, so, I can't do it until we close... End of May I'll have a replacement lol.
Thanks for your suggestion though!
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Good luck! But sounds like you get better battery life than I do overall! I have a brand new device due to warranty circumstances and I have to charge everyday. But I am a power user so it is to be expected, but I was never impressed with the battery life on the XL 3. Overall the 3 XL has very average to subpar battery life. Their refurbished warranty devices are also a gamble, ranging from ones with mechanical defects to large scratches on the screen!
Soo, Digital Wellbeing may be the culprit, at least for me. Uncheck the usage access for DW, then restrict battery and uncheck background data. Let me know if this helps!
I updated to Q beta 3, and my battery life improved, but I then read somewhere that DW might be affecting battery life, so I did the above. Unfortunately, I didn't wait a day or two to see if Q was the reason for better battery life, so, definitely try this and let me know. I went from maybe 15-16 hours of battery life to off the charger at 6:30 and still almost 40% at 10pm. My phone showed the battery would last until about 8:30am when I went to sleep. This is where my phone was when I bought it. Anyway, hope this helps!
Is the 13 beta 4.1 is better than 12 in terms of battery life?
How is the battery life for heavy users?
avivasaf said:
Is the 13 beta 4.1 is better than 12 in terms of battery life?
How is the battery life for heavy users?
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How does being corpulent have anything to do with battery life?
I would say that it is not as good as A12 stable. However, this could just be due to that fact that it is still a beta image. There will be an official release of A13 images in the near future. So, if I were you, I would wait until the official release before updating.
Battery life is miles better on A13 it's hard for me to kill the battery on A13, after a full 12 hours I still have around 20-30% left, and that's with music and YouTube and cod mobile and daily use of course
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Battery life is miles better on A13 it's hard for me to kill the battery on A13, after a full 12 hours I still have around 20-30% left, and that's with music and YouTube and cod mobile and daily use of course
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On 4.1?
I'm unsure if i have a dodgy handset because I had crappy battery life on both A12 and A13.
That being said, I did get my phone near enough launch so unsure if it's just a weird early batch
thedarkmunk said:
I'm unsure if i have a dodgy handset because I had crappy battery life on both A12 and A13.
That being said, I did get my phone near enough launch so unsure if it's just a weird early batch
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I also got mine around launch and my battery capacity is at around 94% now.. so that slightly contributes to battery life too
thedarkmunk said:
I'm unsure if i have a dodgy handset because I had crappy battery life on both A12 and A13.
That being said, I did get my phone near enough launch so unsure if it's just a weird early batch
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You probably don't have a dodgy handset.
I know that people most generally, skeptically ignore my comments on cases and heat retention being one of the worst contributing factors to the shorter battery life on some Pixel 6 devices - but it's disturbingly true. At the end of a day with light usage, my phone is usually sitting between 10-20% battery remaining. But, if I remove my case for a day over the weekend and put my phone through the same usage pattern (or possibly more), the battery is usually sitting between 20-40% by nightfall.
I kid ya not, but heat retention with this particular phone happens to cause the battery to drain faster than many may find fit =). And just a pro tip, but generally speaking, any phone chips manufactured by Samsung tend to generate a bit more heat than the alternative chips that are available.
*Edit* - To clarify, Google's Tensor chip was indeed manufactured by Samsung.
*Edit 2.0* - I had forgotten to mention that leaving 5G enabled also has a relatively large impact on the battery drain when the device's temperature stays high. So, if you have battery problems, try disabling 5G before bed and see what happens with your battery usage the following day.
Battery life is abysmal on the stock 12. I keep reading that Google is running tons of services in the background but have no proof of that. If so and if they are for marketing rather than usability, Google should rethink its strategy, because, after this, I am not getting yet another Pixel. I swore the same after the Pixel 3XL, but this time I have learned my lesson.
I love the camera and it would be a great phone for traveling, but if I use Maps and take 20-40 photos, the P6P dies in about 6 hrs. If I listen to Youtube with the screen off, it dies even sooner.
I even turn off 5G, which should not be required on a phone for which I paid over $1k.
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I know that people most generally, skeptically ignore my comments on cases and heat retention being one of the worst contributing factors to the shorter battery life on some Pixel 6 devices - but it's disturbingly true. At the end of a day with light usage, my phone is usually sitting between 10-20% battery remaining. But, if I remove my case for a day over the weekend and put my phone through the same usage pattern (or possibly more), the battery is usually sitting between 20-40% by nightfall.
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The battery life is really terrible and I have the feeling that those who are happy come from older Pixels with even worse batteries.
I will try it without a case for a few days. I looked for bumpers only and while there are some nice aluminum ones for the iPhone, there is nothing for the Pixels. So if you are right and battery life is better without a case, we don't even have the option of protecting just the edges
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You probably don't have a dodgy handset.
I know that people most generally, skeptically ignore my comments on cases and heat retention being one of the worst contributing factors to the shorter battery life on some Pixel 6 devices - but it's disturbingly true. At the end of a day with light usage, my phone is usually sitting between 10-20% battery remaining. But, if I remove my case for a day over the weekend and put my phone through the same usage pattern (or possibly more), the battery is usually sitting between 20-40% by nightfall.
I kid ya not, but heat retention with this particular phone happens to cause the battery to drain faster than many may find fit =). And just a pro tip, but generally speaking, any phone chips manufactured by Samsung tend to generate a bit more heat than the alternative chips that are available.
*Edit* - To clarify, Google's Tensor chip was indeed manufactured by Samsung.
*Edit 2.0* - I had forgotten to mention that leaving 5G enabled also has a relatively large impact on the battery drain when the device's temperature stays high. So, if you have battery problems, try disabling 5G before bed and see what happens with your battery usage the following day.
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Exynos chips are notoriously hot and Google have basically made an even hotter one by giving Tensor two X-1 cores.
13 stable on my phone takes forever to charge the battery doesn't matter if it's wireless or with the cord.. Totally blows
I tried using the phone without a case for a couple of days and did not notice any improvement in terms of battery life.
I just updated to Android 13 final OTA and am crossing my fingers that there is at least some battery life optimization since Google must be aware of all the complaints.
Such a large battery should last considerably longer than it does on the Pixel 6 Pro.