Hi all!
I love this phone! I've had one years ago that got demolished and I bought another one recently.
My question today is,
Why does dot view pop up when I put my phone on the left hand side of my laptop?
I had an HP that I figured was triggering it because of the magnetivity from the speaker, whenever I put the phone down to type on my laptop it would turn off the screen and activate dot view.
I was always curious about it but now I have a macbook pro and its doing the same thing on the exact same corner.
I honestly never used dot view or know how it works but it seems this phone has some wireless capability I was not aware of?? I noticed after it goes into this mode, certain swipes change my screen to other dot view formats.
I would really like to understand what is happening bc it looks super cool.
To be more exact heres a picture of what it looks like:
here
Thx!!
I love your life.
It's still magnetism.
I recently got a magnetic car dashboard holder for my phone and when I put it on a certain way it triggers dot view (the custom rom version of it anyway - FlipFlap).
About the swipe interaction, as far as I remembered dot view didn't have swipe interactions only tap, my original dot view case only lasted 3 months though and O2 refused to replace, so I don't know if additional functionality was added. In any case the phone might be interpreting your swipe as just a tap (touch). Cheers.
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NOTIFICATION BAR scrolling down without touching it: Static Electr & Capacitive Scrns
I would like to know if anyone else has experienced this at least once. I didn't post here as a thread til I got confirmation from one other DESIRE user that this has happened to him as well.
I don't know the exact triggers or even the exact scenarios, but this has happened several times to me already:
I am using the phone in horizontal mode and tapping menu items or inputting text, and my finger is nowhere even close to the Notification Bar at top of screen -- and yet suddenly the Notification Bar will auto-scroll down, interrupting what I was doing. Repeated times. It would happen again, with no accidental slippage of my finger or anything. My finger would be nowhere near the bar.
I am wondering if there is any kind of static electricity effect with capacitive screens that can set off a menu action.
So I am asking the experts here. Is that possible? Is it anything that was reported with the Nexus One?
RELATED (1): After this happened a few time in ONE SESSION using the phone -- it happened to be while uploading videos to YouTube, I wanted to test to see if I moved my finger close to the Notification Bar would this perhaps trigger this auto-scroll-down. So I moved my finger just slightly above the surface of the glass at the Notification Bar, and it didn't make it scroll down, but on this occasion, it set off a kind of jumpiness whereby the notification bar was rapidly shifting up and down a few pixels, as though it was receiving input. Has anyone seen this happen? I have not yet been able to get this to repeat from that session of using the phone a few days ago. I was lying down on my bed, and I'm pretty sure sheets produce a lot of static electricity, so this is my layman's question. Is there some causal effect here?
RELATED (2): A variation on this problem would be where I am actually trying to select a menu choice, and instead of my finger-press activating the menu item, instead the menu item jumps up slightly, and does not get selected.
This, again, happened when I was in ALBUM MODE, watched a video in horizontal display, then tapped-and-held the video to bring up the context menu that includes various SHARE options. One of those options is YouTube (the last item of the menu). I would try to select "YouTube" but the menu jumped upwards slightly, and wouldn't get selected.
I have been able to reproduce this one (Related 2) today, days later, in totally different environment .
So, a bunch of questions:
1. Is there such a thing as a static electricity effect that confuses the screen?
2. Are there other kinds of known screen-response problems that could be at play here?
3. Is this something that sounds like "it's defective so return it", or is this a somewhat common experience, sporadically?
the only time I've had that happen to me is when I use a cheap charger I've got and yeah the screen just skitses out. I am using a hero tho but this is the first time I've seen anyone else encounter this so I thought il'd churp in.
I had something similar only once.
The notification bar went mad. It was flicking up and down constantly without me touching the phone at all.
I had to pull the battery to fix the problem.
Hasn't happened since.
Fon22
Happened to me also when loading a ROM in Nesoid.
So I'm not sensing any concerns re; any defect... but still wondering, since I don't know the physics of capacitive screens... Is static electricity the culprit? Never happened once on my GSM HERO... so something is at play here.. or is it an intermittent defect that rarely shows up?
quicksite said:
So I'm not sensing any concerns re; any defect... but still wondering, since I don't know the physics of capacitive screens... Is static electricity the culprit? Never happened once on my GSM HERO... so something is at play here.. or is it an intermittent defect that rarely shows up?
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The capacitive touch screens work by detecting a disturbance in the EM field on the glass surface. There's a few ways to do it, I think the way mobile phones are doing this is to put a field of their own over the glass and detect fingers on the surface based on what levels of the field they'd expect to see at different points around the screen, and doing some comparisons on what levels are actually detected.
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong BTW.
I've noticed this notification bar problem today and yesterday. Lucky I at least saw how I caused it. My finger was to close to the top right of the screen because of the way I was holding the handset. That combined with the lacklustre multi-touch support on this handset made the phone detect it as a finger swipe that rapidly moved downwards.
I've always had similar problems with capacitative and inductive touch technologies. I don't actually need to touch the desires screen to activate a touch. The worsted was the Zen Micro with the touch controls. I could activate that thing from about 10-15mm away. The touch on-off-dimming lamps too. I usually cycle those through all their light levels with a single touch. Where as my brother actually struggles to activate those, really has to press his hand down hard on them.
Brilliant, Alex... You got right inside my head and answered exactly what i was trying to ask.... the physics of the system.
I'm okay with little glitches here and there, and I am sure I will learn to avoid proximity issues that tend to trigger these mis-fires... just as I learned to adjust my tap-key behavior in typing on the on-screen keyboard on capacitive screen vs all the resistive screens I had used before on Windows Mobile, where fingernails could & would engage the resistive screen -- vs learning that the bottom surface of the finger has to make contact on the keys on capacitive screen... (sorry i am USA and we still resist the world's metric standard, so i don't know the equivalent distance in cm,)... but it's over a 1/4-inch of an upward shift in the position of one's fingers above the capacitive screen from the tip of the fingernail.
But once you train your senses to activate the keys sensors properly, the finger impact behaviors of resistive screens goes away after a while (at least for me)
(oh, btw, I ordered the new HTC capacitive stylus which is a couple of months old now, but is an official DESIRE accessory, so that will be an interesting experience... the thing i miss most about the resistive screen and stylus was being able to scribble notes really fast, way faster than i could ever type -- and draw pretty detailed images or maps and directuions for people. so it will be interesting to see the granularity of control the capacitive stylus will give)
So thanks very much for giving me the exact level of detail I can process as a lay person.. and for assuring me, as the rest of you have as well, that this apparently comes with the territory of this phone -- and therefore should not be seen as a defect. Because i sure as hell didn't want to go shipping this phone back. I can live with an occasional spazzoid misread of intended impact spot on screen...
And, fnally, this was funny -- re the different degree of touch we all consider "normal" --
The touch on-off-dimming lamps too. I usually cycle those through all their light levels with a single touch. Where as my brother actually struggles to activate those, really has to press his hand down hard on them.
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thanks!
Alex_w said:
The capacitive touch screens work by detecting a disturbance in the EM field on the glass surface. There's a few ways to do it, I think the way mobile phones are doing this is to put a field of their own over the glass and detect fingers on the surface based on what levels of the field they'd expect to see at different points around the screen, and doing some comparisons on what levels are actually detected.
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong BTW.
I've noticed this notification bar problem today and yesterday. Lucky I at least saw how I caused it. My finger was to close to the top right of the screen because of the way I was holding the handset. That combined with the lacklustre multi-touch support on this handset made the phone detect it as a finger swipe that rapidly moved downwards.
I've always had similar problems with capacitative and inductive touch technologies. I don't actually need to touch the desires screen to activate a touch. The worsted was the Zen Micro with the touch controls. I could activate that thing from about 10-15mm away. The touch on-off-dimming lamps too. I usually cycle those through all their light levels with a single touch. Where as my brother actually struggles to activate those, really has to press his hand down hard on them.
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I was thinking it is softwarerelated. The bar remains halfway the screen, is in the layer below the active app, and jumps to front upon touching the screen.
I have the Problem, too. And that since Monday. I went mad since yesterday evening so i tried to go back to stock, unroot and all.
But the problem is still there.
How can i fix it? Or is my Phone damaged?!
The Notification Bar scrolls down without touching the display and then freezes the phone. so i must lock the phone and relock it and then i can use the phone but after a short time the same problem came back!!
So I reckon you're an undertaker for a living?
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk 2
erklat said:
So I reckon you're an undertaker for a living?
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Sorry but i don't understand what you mean
The problem makes me crazy because i have now the stock rom because i thougt it was an issue due a custom rom or a kernel or something.
If you can help me please do that, this problem robs me to sleep
But i havent the Desire. I Have the HTC EVO 3D GSM
19Marc89 said:
Sorry but i don't understand what you mean
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lol digging up the dead
Sent from my HTC Desire
Sorry but I do not understand the background of your information which is in context with my problem of the notification bar.
@19Marc89 He meant that you responded to a an old (dead) post. Listen, I'm trying to recondition an old Motorola Milestone (Droid) with a crazy touchscreen problem, whose cause I believe I've narrowed down to static electricity - can you do me a favor and try stroking the glass side of the phone lengthwise in one direction down your sleeve, preferably if you have a wool sweater on? Call me crazy, but this works for me, at least temporarily. I posted more here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1041943&page=5
install gravitybox. go to >statusbar tweaks>disable peek. click it. problem solved!
quicksite said:
I would like to know if anyone else has experienced this at least once. I didn't post here as a thread til I got confirmation from one other DESIRE user that this has happened to him as well.
I don't know the exact triggers or even the exact scenarios, but this has happened several times to me already:
I am using the phone in horizontal mode and tapping menu items or inputting text, and my finger is nowhere even close to the Notification Bar at top of screen -- and yet suddenly the Notification Bar will auto-scroll down, interrupting what I was doing. Repeated times. It would happen again, with no accidental slippage of my finger or anything. My finger would be nowhere near the bar.
I am wondering if there is any kind of static electricity effect with capacitive screens that can set off a menu action.
So I am asking the experts here. Is that possible? Is it anything that was reported with the Nexus One?
RELATED (1): After this happened a few time in ONE SESSION using the phone -- it happened to be while uploading videos to YouTube, I wanted to test to see if I moved my finger close to the Notification Bar would this perhaps trigger this auto-scroll-down. So I moved my finger just slightly above the surface of the glass at the Notification Bar, and it didn't make it scroll down, but on this occasion, it set off a kind of jumpiness whereby the notification bar was rapidly shifting up and down a few pixels, as though it was receiving input. Has anyone seen this happen? I have not yet been able to get this to repeat from that session of using the phone a few days ago. I was lying down on my bed, and I'm pretty sure sheets produce a lot of static electricity, so this is my layman's question. Is there some causal effect here?
RELATED (2): A variation on this problem would be where I am actually trying to select a menu choice, and instead of my finger-press activating the menu item, instead the menu item jumps up slightly, and does not get selected.
This, again, happened when I was in ALBUM MODE, watched a video in horizontal display, then tapped-and-held the video to bring up the context menu that includes various SHARE options. One of those options is YouTube (the last item of the menu). I would try to select "YouTube" but the menu jumped upwards slightly, and wouldn't get selected.
I have been able to reproduce this one (Related 2) today, days later, in totally different environment .
So, a bunch of questions:
1. Is there such a thing as a static electricity effect that confuses the screen?
2. Are there other kinds of known screen-response problems that could be at play here?
3. Is this something that sounds like "it's defective so return it", or is this a somewhat common experience, sporadically?
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install gravitybox. go to >statusbar tweaks>disable peek. click it. problem solved!
I know I am many years late but did you somehow manage to solve this problem?
I'm not sure if this is something that's already been observed, but it's certainly not something I've seen in any of the One X's promotional material.
Essentially, the touch screen seems to actually extend to below the screen, encompassing all the buttons. That is, the buttons actually aren't discrete tap zones, but rather part of the digitizer that simply doesn't have a screen behind it.
This can be seen on the (stock) lock screen, where you can pull down the ring, and still manipulate it's position while your finger's over the top of the buttons.
Anyway, I'm not sure if there's any practical way that this can be used (not being a developer myself), but it does seem like it could be used for gestures, as we saw a few years ago on the Palm Pre.
It was like this on my DHD too. It's awesome for games as long as you don't tap while swiping across the home button.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
This is the behaviour I've seen on almost every android-phone I've had.
Its because the whole front panel is a digitizer so instead of manufacturing separate parts for the buttons they can cut costs and make one part.
Noticed this when I scrolled past the bottom of the screen while picking music to listen to. Bloody nice feature, I've never seen a phone do that before. It's also neat because it seems that when I drag up from the bottom to close the notification bar, the phone knows that I hit the home button but that I meant to drag the notification bar up, so I don't accidentally go to the homescreen.
I had noticed this soon after getting my HOX. It's really handy, though I wouldn't really call it a feature.
Hi Guys,
I think this has been already asked before but i did not a get a perfect solution for this, i brought a the Note 2 and i tried using the s Pen and found that when even not touching the screen in the apps/home screen if i scroll left and right it scrolled the page just like that, i did not even touch the screen for it and it worked to scroll the pages just like that with 2 cms away from the screen and the next day when i try to hover it, its not working like that, it asks me to touch the screen in order to scroll the pages or hover it to the corner of the screen to show the arrow mark where it scrolls (even here i don't have to touch it), i saw lots of videos , and everyone are trying to touch the screen and move it, and as everyone said , we need change that potentiometer and things, even i tried that and its not working. please clarify me, will i be able to swipe screens left and right without touching it, like before, or its a setting i have changed or i have a issue with S pen, i am totally confused, help me out guys.Thanks in Advance.:crying:
I love this phablet. Came from lg g3 and I have to say I love the Note 4 little more.
But there are a few things that I don't like. I hate actually.
1. The bottom of the phone, non-screen area. Space is small vertically and I constantly launch an app on the dock when trying to press the home button. Especially when using the phone one handed. Samsung could have moved the screen up put the logo on the bottom to make the space larger. This is a QA usability fail.
2. Fingerprint sensor limit to 3. While I was able to program 6 fingers, it doesn't always work well and needs multiple swipes. I also would like to see apple like sensor that doest need swiping.
3. IR remote software is terrible. Just give me a programmable remote like LG G3.
4. Front camera distortion. With wide screen format the distortion is so bad at top and bottom I can't believe it made it pass the QA..
While I can't really say much about points 1, 2, and 4 I can say there's this really nice remote app in the play store "Smart IR Remote - AnyMote" by Color Tiger that works really well though I think it's a paid app.
Point 1: I have never launched anything while pressing the home button. I even have a case on which reduces my flat usable space to push it. This is not a "QA fail", it's your personal preferance.
Point 2: I use my thumb which I scanned in twice holding the phone 2 different ways to compensate for different usage scenarios and I get it the first time 95% of the time.
Point 3: I agree that the IR software could be better, but I think it is better than HTC's. The software on my One M8 wouldn't work with my DVD player. With the Note 4 the setup was faster and it works with my TV and DVD player.
Point 4: I honestly haven't used the front camera, so I can't say much on it. I will check it out since you mentioned it though.
I agree on all points except #4 because I NEVER use it, but number 1 happens to me often. Maybe I just have big thumbs, but I am constantly launching something or hitting something when I press the home button. Best phone available IMO, but everything can't be perfect for me.
Number 1 used to happen to me all the time. I Just moved the icon from above the home button. Problem solved!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using XDA Free mobile app
Press with the edge of your thumb and I bet it won't be a problem anymore. That's how I do it.
Try pie controls and set one of the first row as your home button... I never even press the home button anymore. Saves a little wear and tear over time as well.
some launchers allow for adding vertical padding, i don't know if it applies to the dock area but it's worth a shot if you're not set on using samsung's launcher. personally i have more issues hitting icons or long pressing by accidentally touching the sides of the screen when gripping the phone vs hitting something while trying to press home. but that could just be because we hold the phone in different ways maybe.
i have pretty good luck with the fingerprint sensor so long as my fingers aren't grimy or sweaty. but i found it to be generally a worse setup than the iphone (which works surprisingly well and fast) i turned it off after about a week. if it wasn't a swiping gesture i probably would have left it on as i found it awkward to swipe my thumb while trying to hold the phone.
3 and 4 i don't really use so i can't comment. i tried out the IR and it worked fine with my projector. i'll take a look at the FFC and see if i get any distortion.
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insang-droid said:
I love this phablet. Came from lg g3 and I have to say I love the Note 4 little more.
But there are a few things that I don't like. I hate actually.
1. The bottom of the phone, non-screen area. Space is small vertically and I constantly launch an app on the dock when trying to press the home button. Especially when using the phone one handed. Samsung could have moved the screen up put the logo on the bottom to make the space larger. This is a QA usability fail.
2. Fingerprint sensor limit to 3. While I was able to program 6 fingers, it doesn't always work well and needs multiple swipes. I also would like to see apple like sensor that doest need swiping.
3. IR remote software is terrible. Just give me a programmable remote like LG G3.
4. Front camera distortion. With wide screen format the distortion is so bad at top and bottom I can't believe it made it pass the QA..
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I cna very agree with 2), I love apple's implementation of the finger print scanner. I hope we see future phones utilize the same way rather than require swipes.
3. is very solvable by using a programmable remote on the app store (smart remote IR+) which is VERY nice.
The rest I do not really have any experience or trouble with but we all use our phones differently.
I bought a remote app. But I feel like I shouldn't have to buy another app with a phone like note 4.
I'll try the home software button on dock.
I noticed after upgrading to Lollipop that it was difficult to navigate menus near the top of the screen in some apps. I turned on the "pointer location" option and sure enough I found very strange results.
i.imgur com/tPdVowo.png (you'll have to add a period after the domain name, new user status prevents me from posting links)
This first screenshot is me running two fingers all the way to the top of the screen, and once i reached the top i ran them towards the edge of the screen. As you can see there is an area where the pointer location bugs out.
i.imgur com/bh5hWeV.png
This image is just a single finger running horizontally across the top of the screen. The top line is where my finger actually was, but the phone also registered extra touches as you can see from the line below. There's even a section where the top line didn't register at all.
This is a Verizon phone, never been rooted, and hasn't been dropped or wet. I noticed while making this post that the area i am having issues with aligns almost perfectly with the top part of Sense's notification menu.
Is this normal or do I need to exchange my phone?
I am having the same issue with my phone. When I turn on show touches in developer options or install a multitouch test app, it'll show an extra touch just below where I'm touching but only when I'm touching at the top of the screen. Stock lollipop, never rooted, no water damage.
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same problem. do you have s-off? downgrade firmware and rom - maybe this fix problem?
bumbarush said:
same problem. do you have s-off? downgrade firmware and rom - maybe this fix problem?
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I don't. I didn't want to do that yet. Was hoping to see if anyone else had the issue and if they were able to resolve it.
Just want to see if anyone was able to resolve this issue.
fixed!
we need the old piezo lighter's element. The phone must be turned off. A few strokes on the screen near the problem area, and voila, the screen works again. Do not be afraid, the phone will not be damaged
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