I am looking at buying a Galaxy Note 10÷ 5g Unlocked International version,just wondering if it will work on T-Mobile or At&t networks?and if so what would I lose or gain from it?Thank you for any info on this matter.
You won't get 5G in the states. On top of that, you will experience slower LTE due to partial compatibility with carrier aggregation. You lose access to band 71 on T-Mobile and some bands on AT&T. Samsung Pay functionality limited to whatever is offered by the region you imported from.
meowone said:
You won't get 5G in the states. On top of that, you will experience slower LTE due to partial compatibility with carrier aggregation. You lose access to band 71 on T-Mobile and some bands on AT&T. Samsung Pay functionality limited to whatever is offered by the region you imported from.
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Ok Thank you I guess I will wait till they release in the states for the other carriers.
I'm looking to spend on Note 10 plus 5G, currently on Verizon but the biggest question that I couldn't find the answer is if in the future, I will have to stay with Verizon forever if I want to use 5G on this phone.
Samsung released different snapdragon models for each carrier, but what if I want to switch to Tmobile or AT&T with this phone? Is there a workaround to make these phones work with different carriers, especially with 5G?
S10 5G is out for many months, but I couldn't find a thread showing portability. Although selling the phone for a discounted price and buying other one that works on different carrier is an option, looking to find if it is practical to use 5G when we switch carrier.
Thank you
Cashreedhar said:
I'm looking to spend on Note 10 plus 5G, currently on Verizon but the biggest question that I couldn't find the answer is if in the future, I will have to stay with Verizon forever if I want to use 5G on this phone.
Samsung released different snapdragon models for each carrier, but what if I want to switch to Tmobile or AT&T with this phone? Is there a workaround to make these phones work with different carriers, especially with 5G?
S10 5G is out for many months, but I couldn't find a thread showing portability. Although selling the phone for a discounted price and buying other one that works on different carrier is an option, looking to find if it is practical to use 5G when we switch carrier.
Thank you
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once its sim unlicked it will workbwith other carriers.. ive tried it on multiole sims from dif carriers
The lte radios should be the same, the 5g will never work across carriers for now considering theyre taping into different spectrum. Modems and antenna designs are different between the different 5g methodology each carrier adopted.
elliwigy said:
once its sim unlicked it will workbwith other carriers.. ive tried it on multiole sims from dif carriers
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That is very nice to hear. Does the phone work with other carriers once sim unlocked without changing the phone software? Does 5G work on other carriers too, if the bandwidths match? Thanks
coilbio said:
The lte radios should be the same, the 5g will never work across carriers for now considering theyre taping into different spectrum. Modems and antenna designs are different between the different 5g methodology each carrier adopted.
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I may not understand much details of these modems, however my understanding is that there are some 5G bands common between carriers.
Verizon holds 76% of total available 28GHz spectrum bands and and 48% 39GHz 5g spectrum bands.
At&T holds 40% of 39GHz bands and Tmobile holds 12% of 28GHz bands. If I'm not mistaken the modem in Note 10 5G model supports 600MHz which is new Tmobile band. So, if Note 10 modem supports those 2 5G bands on verizon, technically it should work on at&t and t-mobile too? Although these may work in different cities as of now
Yes and no, I don't know if it has the right antennas, they matter to match the signal length and the obvious is how locked the radio is.
You forget Verizon are evil about keeping their phones there.
It could be the phone is capable but will never be able because it's a Verizon phone and they nerfed something.
coilbio said:
Yes and no, I don't know if it has the right antennas, they matter to match the signal length and the obvious is how locked the radio is.
You forget Verizon are evil about keeping their phones there.
It could be the phone is capable but will never be able because it's a Verizon phone and they nerfed something.
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In the past we were able to unlock blocked antenna bands using Qualcomm QPST tool and hope there will be possibilities in the future. It's not that Verizon is evil, it applies to all carriers. There has been court ruled regulations that enabled users to take their device to other networks, but blocking 5G would be inconvenience to users, as we all know 5G is the future. I'm going to grab a Note 10 plus 5G for now
Cashreedhar said:
In the past we were able to unlock blocked antenna bands using Qualcomm QPST tool and hope there will be possibilities in the future. It's not that Verizon is evil, it applies to all carriers. There has been court ruled regulations that enabled users to take their device to other networks, but blocking 5G would be inconvenience to users, as we all know 5G is the future. I'm going to grab a Note 10 plus 5G for now
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technically they wouldnt be blocking anything if they just dont include the antennae/functionailt.. its then up to the user to research and purchase if it suits their needs.
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After Verizon unlocked the phone, surprisingly 5G works with Tmobile without any modification. Of course not all the bands. Haven't had 5G signal so far and suddenly when I'm standing near a 5G antenna in downtown Manhattan, I had full signal
I have the same phone. I was not able to see 5G with TMobile or AT&T. I am also not able to get the Verizon hardware off my phone. ( boot logo, etc.) Any work arounds?
Odd. I have the 5G on VZW thats unlocked. My phone works fine with my TM SIM but does not pickup 5G even though my OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren gets 5G.
Milyenair said:
I have the same phone. I was not able to see 5G with TMobile or AT&T. I am also not able to get the Verizon hardware off my phone. ( boot logo, etc.) Any work arounds?
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nope.
the n976v only has vzw and gcf csc codes on it which both use the vzw sales code n network code.. changing carriers should work but on network as the csc should recognize this and load the correct apns n such but the bootani n vzw stuff is there to stay..
Mike02z said:
Odd. I have the 5G on VZW thats unlocked. My phone works fine with my TM SIM but does not pickup 5G even though my OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren gets 5G.
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not odd.. its a vzw branded 5g device.. its hit or miss on other 5g networks.. they typically use different bands and frequencies and 5g variants dont contain full csc for other carriers like the non 5g devices
So I'm having an issue, I'm trying to get my phone to work with Total Wireless but for some reason I cannot adjust the APN and they can't send me an update to my sim card. I can get the calls and text to work and it shows 4g but no data due to the incorrect APN. Its all grayed out with no way to add or configure it. The IMEI also says its not compatible with Total Wireless which is weird since all other verizon phones have worked before except this Note 10+ 5g.
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So I'm having an issue, I'm trying to get my phone to work with Total Wireless but for some reason I cannot adjust the APN and they can't send me an update to my sim card. I can get the calls and text to work and it shows 4g but no data due to the incorrect APN. Its all grayed out with no way to add or configure it. The IMEI also says its not compatible with Total Wireless which is weird since all other verizon phones have worked before except this Note 10+ 5g.
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probably need root
CamachoDjr said:
So I'm having an issue, I'm trying to get my phone to work with Total Wireless but for some reason I cannot adjust the APN and they can't send me an update to my sim card. I can get the calls and text to work and it shows 4g but no data due to the incorrect APN. Its all grayed out with no way to add or configure it. The IMEI also says its not compatible with Total Wireless which is weird since all other verizon phones have worked before except this Note 10+ 5g.
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Where did you buy this phone? I had the same issue, when I changed the code to GCF from VZW. I had to send the phone back to Samsung, as the local samsung experience store couldn't even understand the problem. GCF is for Samsung diagnostic purposes only and they had to change the motherboard board on the phone in order to fix the issue. If your carrier 5g mmwave band is one of the band used by Verizon, you'll be able to use 5G with this phone. I was able to use 5G in NYC with TMOBILE, but not when I moved to a different state.
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Odd. I have the 5G on VZW thats unlocked. My phone works fine with my TM SIM but does not pickup 5G even though my OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren gets 5G.
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I can relate the issue you're facing. I was using this phone with TMobile 5G in NYC, but when I moved to different state, I can't get the 5G reception. In order to understand this further, you need to understand the frequencies supported by TMobile and frequencies owned by Verizon. TMobile shares one of Verizon's mmwave band (only around 25%) and these antennas are limited to only few metro cities. Even if you live in one of those big cities, you need to stand close to the 5G antenna in order to get the 5G signal. I remember that I had to stand within 50ft from the antenna in order to get 5G signal (downtown Manhattan near Meridian Lane and Water st).
So I'm new to this. Ive got a Note10+ 5G from Verizon (SM-N976V). Ported over from Verizon to At&t. Works fine accept its on 4G LTE (no 5G... the Samsung S9+ went over to 5G no issues). I am told if I flash the phone to the unlocked firmware it should get rid of the Verizon "lock" and work. I have tried this as per help form Android Central however having no success flashing... I am not exactly that savvy with this stuff... Please help
elliwigy said:
once its sim unlicked it will workbwith other carriers.. ive tried it on multiole sims from dif carriers
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elliwigy, please let me know how you got your SM-N976V to work on other carriers. I've been trying to get mine to work on Visible and I can not change the APN settings.
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elliwigy, please let me know how you got your SM-N976V to work on other carriers. I've been trying to get mine to work on Visible and I can not change the APN settings.
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You can network unlock it pretty easily even if the phone isn't paid off yet. Download setedit by 4a from the play store:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xyz.paphonb.systemuituner
and change the setting "vzw_network_lock" from a 1 to a 0. You'll have to buy the expansion pack from 4a to have a foreground guardian that'll prevent it from going back to a 1.
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I have both TMO and Verizon.
I will probably never see mmwave 5G where I live in my lifetime!
But, Tmobile's variant is all around where I work, etc.
I'm wondering if I toss my TMO sim into the S20U will I get their 'peasant' 5G?
I know with Verizon you have to sign up and it's a different account tier and billing rate which I have no interest in since I may be in areas that actually have mmwave coverage perhaps half a dozen days each year LOL!
Yes. The unlocked variant is guaranteed to work with all carriers 5g
Sent from my SM-G975U1 using Tapatalk
T-Mobile's 5 G is real %g, it is sub-6 though, so not as blazing fast (but other benefits still exist like reduced ping).
T-Mobile isn't restricting their 5G to a specific plan.
https://www.t-mobile.com/news/americas-first-nationwide-5g-network
Verizon does charge more unless you are on their more expensive plans.
Good evening all,
I recently purchased an unlocked snapdragon S20 Ultra 5G and I am unable to get the Network Mode option under Mobile Network. Is there any way I can enable without having to wipe the phone?
I am currently on AT&T and in the LA area where 5G is available (I checked on the map)
Thank you!
xxxrichievxxx said:
Good evening all,
I recently purchased an unlocked snapdragon S20 Ultra 5G and I am unable to get the Network Mode option under Mobile Network. Is there any way I can enable without having to wipe the phone?
I am currently on AT&T and in the LA area where 5G is available (I checked on the map)
Thank you!
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Are you currently on ATE4?
In order for me to have wifi calling and 5G I had be running ATE6 U CSC from G988US.
Go to this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s20/how-to/g988u-g988u1-firmware-links-flashing-t4054133
Read thru it you'll see what to do
JDBarlow said:
Are you currently on ATE4?
In order for me to have wifi calling and 5G I had be running ATE6 U CSC from G988US.
Go to this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s20/how-to/g988u-g988u1-firmware-links-flashing-t4054133
Read thru it you'll see what to do
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Thank you for your reply!
I went ahead and followed the tutorial again and no success..
I am getting 5Ge which is not true 5G just a little gimmick AT&T has pulled. Notice in the screen shot how it says LTE still.
And I still don't have the option to select the network mode.. Which leads me to believe that that is what is blocking 5G from happening.
I'm currently in the Modesto area which according to the AT&T website should be one of the few cities to have it here in California..
I'm beginning to think this Snapdragon version I purchased has the band locked for some reason...
I have found out why I wasn't receiving 5G, my AT&T plan had to be set up with AT&T Elite or AT&T Extra plan. Without that I wasn't able to access the 5G network. It's a little mind-boggling that we have to pay extra to access 5G.
xxxrichievxxx said:
I have found out why I wasn't receiving 5G, my AT&T plan had to be set up with AT&T Elite or AT&T Extra plan. Without that I wasn't able to access the 5G network. It's a little mind-boggling that we have to pay extra to access 5G.
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Paying extra for 5G is pretty standard. Besides having faster download speeds, what advantage(s) do you have over 4G, receiving a text or email 3 seconds sooner? I'm holding off until networks are built out and Service Provider standards are defined. In the future when more 5G utilities are widely available it makes perfect sense but for now I can't justify spending more for a 5G Device and additional Service Provider fees.
I have a Note 10+ 5G from T-Mobile and was wondering if it would be at all possible to enable NR Band n5 for use on AT&T's low band 5G network. Because both of the devices hardware is identical would it be theoretically possible to enable that band?
maybe flashing the ATT software with ODIN, but with ATT if the IMEI# isn`t in there database as a ATT branded phone, they wont let you use the wifi calling and 5G, I just sold a oneplus 8 pro thats suppose to work with ATT 5G and I have the elite plan with 5g and it would not work, so I think if it`s not a ATT branded 5G phone you won`t get the 5G, I have the 10 plus 5g right now but its ATT one, Tmobile is more flexible with unlocked phones, I regret going back to ATT, and it will be the last time I go back to them end of the year I plan on going back to Tmobile.