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Use Sprint TP2 in Germany

Hi,
I'm from Germany and want to buy the Sprint HTC TP2.
Now I found some pages that say i cannot use the phone here.
Because it has quadband i think i can use gsm here, but i don't know wether umts in Germany is fully supported.
Sprint homepage says it's an international phone, but i don't know much about the frequencies of umts and else.
Why I didn't buy the phone in Germany?
Here it costs $700, the Sprint version has a audio output (3.5mm), so i donÄt need any adaptor, and i like the full black hardware keyboard more than the silver german one.
So, what's about the umts and gsm frequency in Germany and would be there any problems?
Thanx,
CrossFire

Forget it mate. Sprint is a CDMA network. It won't get any signal at all in Germany since Europe ONLY uses GSM.
By the way, I bought my phone for 519 Euros in Germany. And unlike the US variety, it comes with warranty that's actually good in Germany and I have my two years of Gewährleistung that you don't get when you buy it abroad. Considering how expensive the phone would be to replace or fix when it breaks, you might want to make sure you can actually make use of the warranty coverage.
Alternatively, buy it from China. It's about 380 Euros there, but at least it's GSM. Mind you that shipping costs and particularly import taxes and duties make the price difference between a domestic and an imported device rather small. I don't think it's worth losing the warranty

xanthene said:
Forget it mate. Sprint is a CDMA network. It won't get any signal at all in Germany since Europe ONLY uses GSM.
By the way, I bought my phone for 519 Euros in Germany. And unlike the US variety, it comes with warranty that's actually good in Germany and I have my two years of Gewährleistung that you don't get when you buy it abroad. Considering how expensive the phone would be to replace or fix when it breaks, you might want to make sure you can actually make use of the warranty coverage.
Alternatively, buy it from China. It's about 380 Euros there, but at least it's GSM. Mind you that shipping costs and particularly import taxes and duties make the price difference between a domestic and an imported device rather small. I don't think it's worth losing the warranty
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Actually, the CDMA touch pro 2s are all world phones capable of quadband GSM/EDGE in addition to Euro 3G (2100mhz). The Sprint branded phones are sim-unlocked, but they just can't use US carriers like T-Mobile USA or AT&T.
I'm not guaranteeing that it'll work, but it should in Germany.

xanthene said:
Forget it mate. Sprint is a CDMA network. It won't get any signal at all in Germany since Europe ONLY uses GSM.
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You have no idea what you are talking about.
afaik, the sprint version should work just fine in Germany. It does have 3G GSM, and as long as you don't try it in the US you will be fine.

scooler said:
You have no idea what you are talking about.
afaik, the sprint version should work just fine in Germany. It does have 3G GSM, and as long as you don't try it in the US you will be fine.
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My mistake. I have to say that there is no clear indication on either Sprint.com, HTC.com or Microsoft.com that says that GSM features the phone has. However, I checked the Sprint manual for the phone and it turns out it does support GSM.
Am I right in saying that GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS will work, but HSDPA/HSUPA won't?

xanthene: Just for future reference, if you are in need of a full detailed spec list, you can always visit www.pdadb.net. They always have a very comprehensive list with details on the phones that will be and have already been released.

Using HongKong S20+ in Europe: which things won't work.

Hi all,
I live in Europe and am planning to buy a Snapdragon S20+ from HongKong.
I've checked which network bands the HK phone supports and all bands I need are there.
Before placing the order I want to check with you guys if I have a clear picture of all limitations that come with buying a HK S20+ in Europe.
The list I compiled so far:
- No Samsung Pay (I don't care, won't use it)
- VOLTE may or may not work depending on your carrier (I don't care, I barely call and if I call I don't care about the quality)
- No warranty in Europe .
- Difference in timing of updates
Anything else I should take into account?

YH93 said:
Hi all,
I live in Europe and am planning to buy a Snapdragon S20+ from HongKong.
I've checked which network bands the HK phone supports and all bands I need are there.
Before placing the order I want to check with you guys if I have a clear picture of all limitations that come with buying a HK S20+ in Europe.
The list I compiled so far:
- No Samsung Pay (I don't care, won't use it)
- VOLTE may or may not work depending on your carrier (I don't care, I barely call and if I call I don't care about the quality)
- No warranty in Europe .
- Difference in timing of updates
Anything else I should take into account?
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Carrier Aggregation may suffer, which will reduce download speeds. I have a Hong Kong variant, VoLTE, WiFi Calling and Samsung Pay work however I'm in the US, your results may vary as you mentioned depending on the carrier. Don't expect you can modify the CSC, you can't change it. Samkey doesn't support HK variants and OXM, which allows Preconfiguration changes for different European CSC's isn't embedded in the software. Updates have come in a timely fashion every month and there's no Carrier Branded Bloatware. Even though the device has some limitations I've been pleased with the HK variant, anything but Exynos!

varcor said:
Carrier Aggregation may suffer, which will reduce download speeds. I have a Hong Kong variant, VoLTE, WiFi Calling and Samsung Pay work however I'm in the US, your results may vary as you mentioned depending on the carrier. Don't expect you can modify the CSC, you can't change it. Samkey doesn't support HK variants and OXM, which allows Preconfiguration changes for different European CSC's isn't embedded in the software. Updates have come in a timely fashion every month and there's no Carrier Branded Bloatware. Even though the device has some limitations I've been pleased with the HK variant, anything but Exynos!
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Thanks for sharing your experiences.
I'll go for the HK version then. Don't see any reason why I shouldn't.

Actually Samsung Pay should work in Europe flawlessly, only thing that won't work is rewards. To be more precise, rewards do work, but the rewards shown are the ones of the phone's original country...
As for the Samkey CSC change limitation, I remember reading a post here about a user that changed CSC from Taiwan to Hong Kong using Samkey...

Rulsar_Tec said:
Actually Samsung Pay should work in Europe flawlessly, only thing that won't work is rewards. To be more precise, rewards do work, but the rewards shown are the ones of the phone's original country...
As for the Samkey CSC change limitation, I remember reading a post here about a user that changed CSC from Taiwan to Hong Kong using Samkey...
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Good to know. I'm currently not using or planning to use Samsung Pay but that might change in the future.
Regarding the CSC limations, I don't see any reason why I would need to change the CSC.

Reason why you may want to think twice is that in the event if you get unit with poor uniformity seller may not be willing to replace it as easily

How do you plan on buying it?

Sharpshooterrr said:
How do you plan on buying it?
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I bought mine from T-Dimension. Just be sure to order from their .de or .co.uk site and you don't have to pay any customs. Cheeper then the Exynos version here in Sweden. Took about 2 weeks to get the phone. First they ship it from HK to their warehouse in UK then from there to me.
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I have ordered the phone from WondaMobile.
They have the HongKong Snapdragon version for the same price as the Exynos in my country.
Also no customs are being charged as they will ship it from/via the UK.

I have ordered S20 ultra also from WondaMobile. I was on 6th of May and I'm hopping the delivery will not take to much time. I also hope I don't have to send it back because of broken camera glass or other issues which s20 ultra suffers...

Hello
My S20 Ultra comes to WondaMobile and is amazing (model 512/16GB)
Samsung Pay and Volte work perfectly.
Photos are fantastic.

I also have the Snapdragon version
Get it. I had the Exynos and it had a poor battery life plus other disadvantages

Could someone check for me ?: Dutch (the Netherlands) language included in the HK version? Mi

is the hongkong version better than the chinese version ??? any differnce
and what about 5g my country supports sub 6 which is 3.5 bandwith

ChromeFR said:
Could someone check for me : Dutch (the Netherlands) language included in the HK version? Mi
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Yes, it is.

dr.memo1o said:
is the hongkong version better than the chinese version ??? any differnce
and what about 5g my country supports sub 6 which is 3.5 bandwith
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Samsung pay and Google services work.
5g is ok for France

Hello, what is the CSC, what is the use of it and why someone would change it? Are the european languages supported in this version?

Using international model (US) in europe (France)

Hi,
Having been burglarized by a thief who awakend me and robbed me of my S10+, I'm thinking about buying a S20 Ultra 5G 128Go.
I've found good prizes on rakuten for international models sold as compatible for France market. One of my goals is to use samsung pay as my eyesight is leaving me, do you think this could be achieved ?
Thank you for your help.

charlene17 said:
Hi,
Having been burglarized by a thief who awakend me and robbed me of my S10+, I'm thinking about buying a S20 Ultra 5G 128Go.
I've found good prizes on rakuten for international models sold as compatible for France market. One of my goals is to use samsung pay as my eyesight is leaving me, do you think this could be achieved ?
Thank you for your help.
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I just received mine from the same dealer.
I do not use Samsung pay, but I tested and my french Mastercard is not accepted, maybe Paypal.

NOSS8 said:
I just received mine from the same dealer.
I do not use Samsung pay, but I tested and my french Mastercard is not accepted, maybe Paypal.
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and what about french friendly firmware flashing ?
Does the phone access cell networks without issues, above all the 5G (even if don't care so much about 5G) ?

charlene17 said:
and what about french friendly firmware flashing ?
Does the phone access cell networks without issues, above all the 5G (even if don't care so much about 5G) ?
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I can't answer you yet, I only had Xiaomi and this is my first Samsung.
No 5g antenna or so I'm not on a 5g plan.
Currently I am looking for a solution for the call recorder
Edit;
I tried with a Visa Premier, the same.

Question Country of origin?

Hey guys, I'm seeing a lot of posts coming from Z Fold4 owners who bought their phone on the refurbished market and that can't set up Wallet.
Those phones are often listed as coming from the country where they are being sold. But Samsung Wallet (Pay) doesn't lie and will only be able to get set up in the country of origin.
Now in Europe, most Z Fold4 come with the EUX firmware (except for a few service providers firmwares that remain there and there).
My question is : Is there a way to know the country of origin of a Z Fold4?
The only way I've found so far is to ask a Samsung representative the country by giving out the IMEI number.
Isn't there another way..?
Thanks a lot!

I can't set up Samsung Wallet either, and I bought my phone one the Samsung Store during the pre-order period.
The issue is that I live in France but Wallet seems to think I'm from Germany, for no reason, so I can't achieve the enrollment.
I just think they messed up something with the new CSC policy.
I told them but nothing has been done since August.
I have a S21U on the side, and everything is working perfectly on it, same location and SIM.
So don' count on it and use Google Pay if you can.

Nat.smith26 said:
The issue is that I live in France but Wallet seems to think I'm from Germany, for no reason, so I can't achieve the enrollment.
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Thank you! So you bought the Fold4 on the Samsung Shop while living in France?
Then there is definitely something wrong. I'll send a report as well, in hopes that the issue gets looked at.

Yep Samsung Shop France.
There is something wrong with the EUX CSC.

Is it possible to use the G981U1 in England?

Hello, I am looking to purchase a Samsung S20 5G for use in the UK. I know that the G981B version with the Exynos chip in it is the one that is normally used in the UK. I've been having a hard time finding any of them for sale. The ones I have found are either in very poor condition, or won't ship to the US, or to a parcel forwarding service, or whatever. I do own a factory unlocked G981U1, which is the Snapdragon chip, and is built for the US. I've heard that it can be "used" abroad, but how well, I don't know. Would it work for an extended stay of 18 months using a SIM from one of the local carriers? Would it have issues with not supporting all the bands it should? Just curious because several years ago I purchased an S7 Duos, an international version, and used it in the US. It never seemed to work as well as the ones built specifically for the US. I am just wondering if it would be the same thing using a US phone in the UK?