Want to buy a Note 10+ that I can root and use with TMobile
Have been reading a lot and confused which variant to buy
Given I need root, what is the route to go? My analysis so far yields that should buy the Exynos version? Is the Snapdragon version rootable as well?
While the Snapdragon version is "rootable", it comes at some cost (losing full charge capabilities, for one). Exynos phones, as I understand, have unlocked bootloader, making them easier to root. Before you root, however, do some research into the method - there is more than one technique.
There are several posts about this.
North Amerian Snapdragon Note 10+'s (N975U, U1, W) have a locked bootloader. Don't expect to be able to root these phones, regardless what some people/sites claim.
Only Hong Kong Snapdragon Note 10+ (N9750) has unlocked bootloader.
International Exynos versions of Note 10+ (N975F, N975FD) can be rooted, but they lack certain LTE bands used by US T-Mobile which can result in suboptimal speeds in US.
OnnoJ said:
There are several posts about this.
North Amerian Snapdragon Note 10+'s (N975U, U1, W) have a locked bootloader. Don't expect to be able to root these phones, regardless what some people/sites claim.
Only Hong Kong Snapdragon Note 10+ (N9750) has unlocked bootloader.
International Exynos versions of Note 10+ (N975F, N975FD) can be rooted, but they lack certain LTE bands used by US T-Mobile which can result in suboptimal speeds in US.
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This ^ and seriously, there's very little reason to even root anymore.
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For the S8, I read that the Snapdragon variants sold in China (and even HK) had unlocked bootloaders. Is that again the case for the S9?
Teracotta said:
For the S8, I read that the Snapdragon variants sold in China (and even HK) had unlocked bootloaders. Is that again the case for the S9?
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Too soon to tell but likely yes.
Keep in mind however that those models are pretty much unpopular (no idea why) and rarely see any type of development. So you have an unlocked BL but nothing to flash which sucks.
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force70 said:
Too soon to tell but likely yes.
Keep in mind however that those models are pretty much unpopular (no idea why) and rarely see any type of development. So you have an unlocked BL but nothing to flash which sucks.
sent from my Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
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I asked jesec, who developed the first custom ROM for the S8's Hong Kong Snapdragon 835 that very question a couple of days back and he didn't know the answer. Curious if Qualcomm has the unlockable bootloader on all 845 chipsets but I suppose we'll soon find out.
varcor said:
I asked jesec, who developed the first custom ROM for the S8's Hong Kong Snapdragon 835 that very question a couple of days back and he didn't know the answer. Curious if Qualcomm has the unlockable bootloader on all 845 chipsets but I suppose we'll soon find out.
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The only ones which will be unlockable are the ones we are talking about in this thread.
All the US and CAN snapdragons will be locked down tight and a waste of money if you want proper root, twrp erc. its so easy to buy exynos why bother with the snapdragon version unless your on cdma?
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varcor said:
I asked jesec, who developed the first custom ROM for the S8's Hong Kong Snapdragon 835 that very question a couple of days back and he didn't know the answer. Curious if Qualcomm has the unlockable bootloader on all 845 chipsets but I suppose we'll soon find out.
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What about G9600 (Latin America) model?
Is BL open?
Teracotta said:
For the S8, I read that the Snapdragon variants sold in China (and even HK) had unlocked bootloaders. Is that again the case for the S9?
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Yes, the Hong Kong variant SM-G9650 has an unlocked bootloader and Samsung Pay on that model works as well. We'll see custom ROM's available before too long.
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its so easy to buy exynos why bother with the snapdragon version unless your on cdma?
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Exynos doesn't have the exclusive US LTE Bands. For the S9 I see Bands 14, 30 and 71 are all missing. This is a major problem since the US carriers will be shifting more traffic onto exclusive bands.
Teracotta said:
Exynos doesn't have the exclusive US LTE Bands. For the S9 I see Bands 14, 30 and 71 are all missing. This is a major problem since the US carriers will be shifting more traffic onto exclusive bands.
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I live in Canada so have no idea about US bands although i know they have always lacked some for Tmobile. Guys dont seem to have had issues running exynos in the US over the years though?
Ive never had any issues here with exynos at any rate
Question is the same as the title, are there other users on XDA who have considered upgrading or buying the Snapdragon Dual Sim Note 10+ over the N975F?. I am aware of the general uniqueness of the Hong Kong/Latin American/Brazilian Snapdragon devices as they have unlocked bootloaders compared to their US and Canadian counterparts. I've been doing research on these phones ever since I knew of the existence of the HK Note 8.
Development wise these N9xx0 devices don't see much development due to the rarity/relative uniqueness of these versions, but I was curious if anyone was checking for this to use instead of the Exynos Note 10+ in the US, Canada, UK, Australia and the rest of the world. I'm particularly interested in hearing from people on AT&T, T-Mobile and their respective MVNOs as I am considering getting this one to use on MetroPCS. In terms of bands I wonder if it will work out of the box similar to a user who had his Hong Kong S10+ work on T-Mobile with Wi-Fi calling/VoLTE even with the TGY CSC.
If they have an oem Bootloader Unlock like the S10's did I will definitely be getting that model over the F. There is still a shocking distance between the two chips in benchmarks, the snapdragon versions performing 20% better than the exynos versions. I will hold out for some extended use testing to come out, but it seems unlikely to change the data much. I need as much performance as I can get from my chip, and I don't really need custom roms to achieve a smooth workflow or customized experience.
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BTW I don't worry much about bands with any of the new flagships coming out. You can verify on frequency checker, but most phones these days come with the same modems in all models. My last phone was a Chinese model Mate 20 X and it had no problem with international roaming on Google fi and got 4g on any chip I threw at it.
Idont know where you plan to use your device, but in many forums of other samsung devices, people getting devices from other countries, have sometimes problems regarding bands, carrier services, software updates, and most important no way to claim warranty
Mainland China = SG chip / 5G / 256gb / dual sim / limited bands
Hong Kong = SG chip / LTE only / 512gb / dual sim / limited bands
US unlocked = SG chip / LTE only / 512gb / single sim / full bands
In my case, I want dual sim but HK version doesn’t have LTE 66 and 71 which T-Mobile uses. So I am still debating.
NoteSeriesEnthusiast27 said:
Question is the same as the title, are there other users on XDA who have considered upgrading or buying the Snapdragon Dual Sim Note 10+ over the N975F?. I am aware of the general uniqueness of the Hong Kong/Latin American/Brazilian Snapdragon devices as they have unlocked bootloaders compared to their US and Canadian counterparts. I've been doing research on these phones ever since I knew of the existence of the HK Note 8.
Development wise these N9xx0 devices don't see much development due to the rarity/relative uniqueness of these versions, but I was curious if anyone was checking for this to use instead of the Exynos Note 10+ in the US, Canada, UK, Australia and the rest of the world. I'm particularly interested in hearing from people on AT&T, T-Mobile and their respective MVNOs as I am considering getting this one to use on MetroPCS. In terms of bands I wonder if it will work out of the box similar to a user who had his Hong Kong S10+ work on T-Mobile with Wi-Fi calling/VoLTE even with the TGY CSC.
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I'm using N975F and it has dual sim
If I buy the sm-g9860, does it come with an unlocked bootloader since its the latin/hk version of the snapdragon model?
I'm looking to know the same thing too. Looking to import to the UK.
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I'm looking to know the same thing too. Looking to import to the UK.
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Yes, the bootloader is unlocked however the SM-G9860 is manufactured in Hong Kong only, not Latin American and the CSC is TGY.
Historically samsung sd variants bootloader is locked. Exynos is easier to unlock.
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All Chinese mainland (CHC), Hong Kong (TGY) and Taiwan (BRI) (ending with 0, G9810/G9860/G9880) models are confirmed to be BL-unlockable. All Korean (ending with N, G981N/G986N/G988N) models (this year Korean ones got Snapdragon) are also confirmed to be BL-unlockable. Plus, they are all 5G-NSA/SA-capable with 12G RAM (rather than 4G models' 8G) and wide-range bands support. Japanese models (starting with SC-) use Snapdragon but I am not sure if its BL is unlockable. (90% confidence that it is unlockable, though.)
Actually BL unlock has nothing to do with processor. It is definitely possible for Samsung to lock down Exynos models. Plus, all Chinese models since S7 or S8 use Snapdragon while being BL-unlockable.
The problem is the two big greedy (and powerful) carriers in US, namely Verizon and ATT. Just look at last year's S10 5G Sprint special version. Its BL is unlockable.
Looking at getting a Note 10+, but I always prefer to root my phones and sometimes install LineageOS. I see that the Exynos variant of the Note 10+ is listed on LineageOS's website as an officially supported device, but it's the Exynos variant.
However upon Googling I'm seeing that the Qualcomm/Snapdragon variant can be rooted too but it requires a paid service? Aside from that are there any other differences between the Exynos and Snapdragon variants that I should be aware of?
Just want to confirm if this is accurate, and it seems like the Exynos variant is probably easier to deal with? I was looking at getting the SM-N975F/DS variant specifically.
Sorry if this is a FAQ, I did try to Google first
Can somebody tell me whether a unlocked exynos,korean,chinese or international samsung phones will work on tmobile usa far as basics like talk,text.Note 10+ models and newer