Which cloud and sync system do you prefer to use?
Google or Samsung?
In our devices we have many duplicate functions of both systems, having 2 accounts in the device, I wonder if that does not influence the high battery consumption too, and I am thinking of using just one type of cloud system and default applications on my device again, stop to use 2 systems together.
What do you think of this?
Samsung, cause it backs up more apps. It backed up and restored a car mode app that was removed from the play store l.
Related
Before you flame, I have searched the forums but haven't found a post within the last 6 months that definitively answers the question, so maybe something may have changed.
I'm looking for a way to transfer purchases from one google account to another. I got my phone while in college and used my Google Apps account from school (<EMAIL1>@mst.edu). It wouldn't let me use that account for google checkout so I had to add <EMAIL2>@gmail.com to purchase apps. This seems to work fine and when I go into google checkout and log in with EMAIL2, I see my purchases.
Now come the issues. If I try to switch to EMAIL2 only on my Evo 4G (software reset), I can pull mail but not app purchases.
The reason I want to stop using my google apps account is that a lot of google services seem to be sketchy with integration, IE Google Reader, Music, and Plus all work great on a PC but from the android phone, no dice.
I'd like to figure out a way to migrate my app purchases to [email protected] And use it for all of my email and other services to get away from my 'professional email account' EMAIL2 and my google apps account EMAIL1.
so just a review:
[email protected] - Google Apps account from college, application integration poor
[email protected] - "professional email", don't want social media services integrated with this. used only for resumes, etc
[email protected] - personal email that I want to use for everything.
My only solution so far seems to be spending $50 to purchase all of the apps again that I use REGULARLY or ~$120 for all of my app purchases total.
Anyone ideas?
Its worth a shot, but have you tried downloading / having all the apps you want, then use titanium to move to the sdcard, the sign on on email3, then restore? It may not fix the 'licensing' issue, but you should be able to use them still. Also, you can try [maybe from a pc] log onto google, and see if you can go into account management, then change your android email account, or call/email their tech support and have them manually change it.
Titanium backup is moot until a new root is released. my Evo was overheating and bootlooping so I just got a refurb preloaded with 2.3.3 .
As of a couple months ago, Google tech support says no. It could've changed since then, you'll need to check with Google though.
There are non-root backup apps, but if the apps are protected then I don't believe they'll be able to back them up. And if the apps have a license check in place that renders the app useless, then you're SOL. I get licensing errors with restoring with Titanium Backup, so you're bound to come across the same problem. I'm glad that apps use license checks though, it cuts back on pirating.
Anyone, uses google backup service? In previous android versions, it was always advised to always untick this service to turn it off basically as it killed the battery. Is this still the case? and who actually finds this service useful please?.
See no battery drain here, very handy when flashing roms etc as you have a cloud backup
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA
jordanprudent said:
See no battery drain here, very handy when flashing roms etc as you have a cloud backup
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Cheers buddy, the only only thing is it doesn't show what it backs up, is there a list or guide of what it actually backs up.
Backs up apps in play store and will automatically redownload them. Contacts as well as wifi passwords etc and bookmarks Internet preferences all come back when I flash a new rom.
Google sync allows photos and music etc to sync across different devices etc.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA
jordanprudent said:
Backs up apps in play store and will automatically redownload them. Contacts as well as wifi passwords etc and bookmarks Internet preferences all come back when I flash a new rom.
Google sync allows photos and music etc to sync across different devices etc.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wander how much data this chews up then.
I used it for a while but after using Titanium Backup for no more than a day decided to switch all my backups to that. It does everything that google's backup does but with ALL your data and preferences, and you can have it sync locally and directly with dropbox and now even box.net, which I'll take over google's server's anyday.
Although I do keep my contacts and such synced with my gmail account, so I only have to deal with my preferences and data (such as sms texts) when needing to backup
I use it too and battery is fine. It backs up so much useful items, wifi and its password so a wipe instantly goes to my wifi to start pulling down the apps. It saves your wallpaper, settings, and it even states currently that it backs up the app data, but I'm not sure about that.
I've been sitting on this for a while but finally decided to speak up on it. I've been reading advice all over since the Froyo days that clearing Google Services Framework is a good idea to solve some play store and/or random app related problems. It is not a good idea to do this. Let me explain why:
Google Services Framework, among other things, contains device data for services like the awesome C2DM (Cloud to Device Messaging) service. What is this you ask? Well, in a nut shell, it is responsible for delivering messages from the cloud to your phone for a particular app without requiring that app to run and constantly maintain a data connection. This was introduced in Froyo (If I'm not mistaken) and helps conserve battery life. For example, Angry Birds Friends has C2DM because it will notify you of someone beating your score without the app running in the background. Angry Birds Friends does not use the on boot permission, so it needs not remain running eating up data just to receive notifications. Understand? A lot of apps are designed like this and it is a very good practice for developers who want to include notifications without needing their app to run in the background all of the time.
Clearing Google Services Framework will cause the C2DM service for every app that uses it to fail until that said app also has its data cleared and is launched and configured again (first time use). If you've ever wondered why your notifications for certain apps stop working, it was probably due to reading advice on clearing Google Services Framework to solve some other problem.
If you don't mind setting up all of your C2DM capable apps again, then go ahead and clear Google Services Framework data. However, if you have quite a few apps, like myself, then clearing it is a bad idea. I found this out a long time ago. There may also be other side effects associated with clearing Google Services Framework, but this is the one I've never seen mentioned before.
Enjoy!
Awesome info ... which leads to a dumb question:
I've never went in and cleared any framework, but I've lost notifications. I've removed and reinstalled apps, get notifications back, but then they stop again.
Is it safe to assume this is something that's been cooked into the ROM?
Live from the outer (S3) Galaxy, via TapaTalk ...
Hmgrepper said:
Awesome info ... which leads to a dumb question:
I've never went in and cleared any framework, but I've lost notifications. I've removed and reinstalled apps, get notifications back, but then they stop again.
Is it safe to assume this is something that's been cooked into the ROM?
Live from the outer (S3) Galaxy, via TapaTalk ...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have had this problem with Facebook if I restore with titanium. I always have to do a clean install for it to notify me...
Sent from my SPH-L710 using xda app-developers app
To add on to this, here's what Google engineer Dan Morrill had to say about clearing the Google Services Framework data on Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/com...ear_data_for_google_service_framework/cdiymrp
In short, as the OP had said, it's definitely not a good idea to clear the GSF data.
Good to know. Thanks for the informative post!
Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk
N00B_IN_N33D said:
To add on to this, here's what Google engineer Dan Morrill had to say about clearing the Google Services Framework data on Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/com...ear_data_for_google_service_framework/cdiymrp
In short, as the OP had said, it's definitely not a good idea to clear the GSF data.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lol i have cleared the data
now pls help that how to return to og service framework
That checks. Doing this removed my device from the play store and I had to do a soft reset with the keypad
Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk
Hmmm, that's crazy
Sent from the infected viking
C2DM? It seems this is what was used before, but I think things have changed in Android ever since. I'm not an expert or anything, but recent apps are relying on GCM (Google Cloud Messaging) for notifications. The problem is that (to my understanding) GCM comes with Google Play Services and not Google Services Framework. To the point where not only Google Apps need Google Play Services, but other non-Google related apps require it for notifications (such as Facebook's Messenger). So maybe nowadays, clearing data on the Google Services Framework might not imply notification-related problems.
Aldo6 said:
C2DM? It seems this is what was used before, but I think things have changed in Android ever since. I'm not an expert or anything, but recent apps are relying on GCM (Google Cloud Messaging) for notifications. The problem is that (to my understanding) GCM comes with Google Play Services and not Google Services Framework. To the point where not only Google Apps need Google Play Services, but other non-Google related apps require it for notifications (such as Facebook's Messenger). So maybe nowadays, clearing data on the Google Services Framework might not imply notification-related problems.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1
I cleaned the Google service frame work
What should I do know to not arise any effects
Any solution?
So the website has some description of what can be transferred.. Tbh all my photos and vids are in g photos, I use hangouts and fb messenger so my messages are backed up on a server, use Google contacts that sync when u log into the phone.
I was hoping the true advantage of the cable transfer was to bring app data across, not having to log into 30 different apps will be an advantage. Half my apps don't have an export button (I know I can transfer some via PC)
Does anyone have any more info on this? Literally half the reason I root is to use titanium backup to restore my data on a new ROM xD (I'm coming from a OnePlus two but if there's info about iOS for others that would be useful!)
For privacy reasons on every Samsung device I've ever had including the Note 10 I would remove Facebook and messenger accounts from the account screen everyday and would wipe the storage on the Facebook and messenger app and my user info would be cleared. Since getting the z-fold 3, when I do the above messenger still somehow shows the accounts that I have previously logged in with.
I have Samsung pass disabled and the only way to clear that information appears to be uninstalling messenger and reinstalling it. Facebook application manager is uninstalled and I answer no to the dual messenger prompts that pop up when logging in.
Does anyone know how messenger is retaining this information or what app might be doing it?
If you are for sure clearing all the data, then it must be server side
The ANDROID_ID value won't change on package uninstall/reinstall, as long as the package name and signing key are the same. Apps can rely on this value to maintain state across reinstalls
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Changes to Device Identifiers in Android O
News and insights on the Android platform, developer tools, and events.
android-developers.googleblog.com
Maybe the app is still running so your account info is still in memory, or when one is cleared it copes the data to the other? Force stop both apps, then clear data?
How are you clearing the data?
If you are going into Apps -> Facebook -> storage -> Clear Data
There is a Package Manager app that somehow detects you are trying to clear its data and opens a special dialog to clear the data. I am at work and are not next to my test device but I will upload screenshots when I can.
If the force stop clear data doesn't work, then you could look at using Samsung Knox to clear the data.
RRiVEN said:
If you are for sure clearing all the data, then it must be server side
Changes to Device Identifiers in Android O
News and insights on the Android platform, developer tools, and events.
android-developers.googleblog.com
Maybe the app is still running so your account info is still in memory, or when one is cleared it copes the data to the other? Force stop both apps, then clear data?
How are you clearing the data?
If you are going into Apps -> Facebook -> storage -> Clear Data
There is a Package Manager app that somehow detects you are trying to clear its data and opens a special dialog to clear the data. I am at work and are not next to my test device but I will upload screenshots when I can.
If the force stop clear data doesn't work, then you could look at using Samsung Knox to clear the data.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes I'm first removing the account. Next I end the messenger task. Then I go to storage and clear the storage. Then I go to Facebook and end that task then I also clear that storage.
If it were server side, uninstalling and reinstalling the app shouldn't clear it so I don't think it's server-side. Doing the above method worked fine on my Note 10. There has to be some other samsung app on the fold 3 that is retaining that data.
You said you uninstalled the App manager, some devices have another system app called Facebook App installer. Maybe that one is present on your device?
That is my Fold 3 and Note 9
RRiVEN said:
You said you uninstalled the App manager, some devices have another system app called Facebook App installer. Maybe that one is present on your device?
That is my Fold 3 and Note 9
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's a pretty nasty and vicious virus that farcebook thingy!
And you reckon that Google or the keyboard don't keep track of your Facebook accounts? Usually Google retains my Facebook credentials, for fast log in.