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I am losing my mind with my GPS. I have had my TP2 since last August and I have never been able to find a solution to the horrible GPS quality. I have tried matching up the ports, changing the ports, different software, hard-resets, I have installed the hotfix, I have called HTC, but things are still terrible. The only thing that ever cause an improvement was manually choosing the ports and such, however the improvement was only slight.
I have used GPS on Google Maps on the iPhone under the same provider (Optus in Australia) and the moment I opened the program there was always a GPS lock, not once did I ever have to wait or get it ready, but on my TP2 using Google Maps (or any other application), sometimes I am forced to wait minutes before getting a signal, if at all. I have searched and searched for a resolution but im not finding any. I just don't understand what I paid top dollar for, I chose the TP2 over the Xperia for it's GPS capabilities, but its hardly capable. I feel as if I am out of options, i've had it for too long to get my money back; I would really appreciate your thoughts on this?
I use iGuidance2009 and have no problems, though I do update quickGPS regularly. Google Maps I dont know about as I dont use it.
This has been a problem ever since the Touch Pro. My old Kaiser never had these horrible GPS issues, Touch Pro and Touch Pro 2 do.
What I have found to work well is to toggle the phone in the Comm manager when GPS is not working correctly.
Also, if you can get AGPS to work correctly, that does wonders for GPS lock time speeds! It would take minutes before, but once AGPS is set to work correctly, I can get a lock in 10 seconds! You have to go into the registry and make sure AGPS is set to use the right data connection.
This only improves acquisition times, it does not reduce the lag which was introduced in the original Touch Pro.
Google maps is probably the worst test app for speed. I use TomTom and iGo on Juicy R5 now, default rom before, and both have no lag. Google maps lags as much as 30 seconds, Garmin and also a few free gps apps I tried lagged 10-15 secs. So this is really, really app dependent. Don't know why.
As for lock speed, agps is a must. If QuickGPS/SEASGEE isn't working then you get the same lock speeds that you would get on old, old car gps systems (up to 5 mins to get a lock).
petard said:
This has been a problem ever since the Touch Pro. My old Kaiser never had these horrible GPS issues, Touch Pro and Touch Pro 2 do.
What I have found to work well is to toggle the phone in the Comm manager when GPS is not working correctly.
Also, if you can get AGPS to work correctly, that does wonders for GPS lock time speeds! It would take minutes before, but once AGPS is set to work correctly, I can get a lock in 10 seconds! You have to go into the registry and make sure AGPS is set to use the right data connection.
This only improves acquisition times, it does not reduce the lag which was introduced in the original Touch Pro.
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It's just you with such serious problems, maybe your phone has problems..
AGPS is key to getting a fast lock. That's where you should be focused.
Some registry tweaks may improve your fix. It rocks for me and others owners, but not sure for every body.
take a look there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523676
and there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524655
It could be a good beginning ;-)
khaytsus said:
It's just you with such serious problems, maybe your phone has problems..
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No, its not. Everyone has position lag. It isn't unbearable, but it is pretty annoying. You take an exit on a highway and it takes about 3 seconds to realize you took it sometimes. What is really weird is it keeps going on one road while the arrow turns in the direction you are headed until it finally places you on the correct road. That part may be due to TomTom though, but I'm not sure.
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You take an exit on a highway and it takes about 3 seconds to realize you took it sometimes. What is really weird is it keeps going on one road while the arrow turns in the direction you are headed until it finally places you on the correct road. That part may be due to TomTom though, but I'm not sure.
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As per my personal experience, this is due to internal GPS data filtering by WM, so tweaks recalled by woaloo (I mean reducing of WM's GPS-related data buffer sizes) can help here.
Be careful however with it as too low values will drives GPS to become "nervous" - your position will become unstable, starting to jump randomly with a radius of few hundreds meters.
Another reason of the lag is (most likely) related to the navi software one uses. I use iGO8 and there are for sure settings moderating position behavior from pretty quick (but unstable) to rather slow but noticeable more stable. I personally prefer this last one.
To the original poster, have you tried running a program like VisualGPS? If so, how much signal strength is it showing for the satellites? I see as high as 39 when indoors. I get quick and accurate locks and I am very happy with the GPS performance. I have to believe that you have a hardware problem.
As for the thread drift on the few seconds delay, yes, that is there, but not a big issue.
Personal experience with the GPS... initially could never get it to connect, basically because every time i tried i was inside behind venitian blinds..... never use GPS before so my bad.
Walked outside and it was great. About 10 secs or less to lock, the lag is only a couple of seconds, no more than 5 secs. Added the tweeks and it was improved slightly. The accuracy was within 5 meters or less (used the property boundries in google maps to verify).
Moving at high speed it was pretty good too.
Compared to other phones and iPhone borrowed from a mate there is negligable difference in the accuracy and lag.
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So the GPS performance on the Touch Pro 2 is not that much better than the Touch Pro? The receiver on the Touch Pro is extremely weak.
At my work we have a GPS re-radiator for use with the equipment that we build. Indoors using the re-radiator I can get a lock in seconds with 11 satellites (the signal is abnormally strong). Outdoors, I'm happy if I can get a lock with 7.
worwig said:
To the original poster, have you tried running a program like VisualGPS? If so, how much signal strength is it showing for the satellites? I see as high as 39 when indoors. I get quick and accurate locks and I am very happy with the GPS performance. I have to believe that you have a hardware problem.
As for the thread drift on the few seconds delay, yes, that is there, but not a big issue.
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I did try something like that, not sure if it was VisualGPS but it showed me the strength of GPS signal and it was quite accurate with how the GPS appeared to be behaving.
I got the phone's motherboard replaced and that fixed the issue. Thank you all for the replies though, it was possibly faulty.
Have the new Energy rom on but used the GPS hotfix. Seems to have increased lock time considerably.
I'll keep an eye on it though in case the lock time increases...
Wonder if we can find an app that would imbed GPS co-ordinates in any pics we take... Got a Samsung S8300t as well & it does this though the GPS navigation software is non-existant....
ultramag69 said:
Have the new Energy rom on but used the GPS hotfix. Seems to have increased lock time considerably.
I'll keep an eye on it though in case the lock time increases...
Wonder if we can find an app that would imbed GPS co-ordinates in any pics we take... Got a Samsung S8300t as well & it does this though the GPS navigation software is non-existant....
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One of the extra camera modes you can unlock in the TP2 is a geotagging mode that does exactly that. There's a number of ways to enable them...Rhodium Settings Tool has a switch for each of them individually (burst, sport, video share, and geotagging), or you can just run the cab below
....and, for anybody else on this thread who hasn't tried it already, I'd suggest checking out the cab fone_fanatic put together to help with GPS locks on the TP2, details HERE
Is there anyone who use defy GPS daily? Can you share which rom or any GPS tweak to make defy more accurate and responsive for navigation?
I have been testing defy GPS, it seems like its rather not accurate to pinpoint location. Accuracy show 4-9m, but often real position is off by 30-200m. For navigation, it's response time rather slow plus the inaccuracy makes it not reliable. My old windows mobile P3600 gives precise position when put beside defy while navigating.
For info, I have disable wifi in location setting. I know I have successfully download supl data. With data enabled, I can lock under 10 sec.
This inaccuracy had been a problem for CM7. I have tested stock froyo and gingerbread, and problem still there.
So, can anyone help here? Do you have the same problem, if not please share your rom version or tweak..
I've used mine a lot for gps, i just make sure to download agps data with an app called GPS test as soon as i can, then if i'm not moving too much from where i stopped gps for the last time it takes very little to lock.
I'm on CM7 and it never disappointed me in Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium and France.
Any GPS fix i've tried did nothing good for me.
My defy lock fast. What bothers me is the accuracy.
Google maps shows accuracy 4-9m, but real position is off sometimes by 200m.
Sometimes it correct itself, other time, even if I waited for a few minutes, it didn't show my real position.
And I'm sure I disable Use Wireless Networks in location setting.
So how is your accuracy?
Relly good, thanks
Seriously, i've seen this mentioned quite often in the CM7 thread, but it never happened to me.
As said before, keeping agps data pretty updated to my position or close enough has always been enough for me.
Good luck in finding a solution that works for you!
GPS has been working perfectly for me under any Rom. Stock GB, CM7 and Stock Froyo.
In CM7 it locks pretty fast, always under 10 secs, after a few secs accuracy down to 3m. Works really good.
I only have GPS Status to download from time to time accurate AGPS data and that's all.
Thanks for the reply..
I have tried almost everything.
Tuning gpsconfig.xml and location.cfg, clear agps cache, restart before testing many value one by one. Tried many stock rom, take GPS files from milestone and milestone2 and the GPS still inconsistent.
Sometimes its accurate, but after turn off GPS for a few second, turn on again, its showing wrong position with accuracy shown as 4-9m, waited for some minutes, and still wrong. Sometimes its accurate for a few test, but after a few minutes, turn on GPS again, its showing wrong position again.
Tried also calibrate compass, even remove the compass driver, but still error.
There is a possibility of multipath error in GPS (bouncing signal from surrounding), but with easily lock to 5-6 satellites with 10-12 satellites in view, I suppose this can nullify error, as real for positioning, we only needed 4 satellites.
I hope there is someone out there know fix for this..
use this fix: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=953630
Maybe it helps
pravarth said:
use this fix: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=953630
Maybe it helps
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Already tried.. even tested various value in gps.conf. No good..
Thanks.
bobo9900 said:
Is there anyone who use defy GPS daily? Can you share which rom or any GPS tweak to make defy more accurate and responsive for navigation?
I have been testing defy GPS, it seems like its rather not accurate to pinpoint location. Accuracy show 4-9m, but often real position is off by 30-200m. For navigation, it's response time rather slow plus the inaccuracy makes it not reliable. My old windows mobile P3600 gives precise position when put beside defy while navigating.
For info, I have disable wifi in location setting. I know I have successfully download supl data. With data enabled, I can lock under 10 sec.
This inaccuracy had been a problem for CM7. I have tested stock froyo and gingerbread, and problem still there.
So, can anyone help here? Do you have the same problem, if not please share your rom version or tweak..
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MIUI rom allows you to enter your preferred satellite under ph settings ^^
Then use gps status app to manage a-gps state - I get anywhere from 10 - 30m accuracy
You are not alone
GPS accuracy on my Defy has been a concern since I bought it. Just like yours, it locks to 4-6 satellites and claims that it's accurate to 4 meters, but my real position is usually a block away. Other symthoms are:
- Accuracy improves with speed and becomes very good when traveling by car, very poor when still or just walking. The correlation between accuracy and speed should be the other way around...
- If there are more than 6 satellites in view, it locks to a maximum of six and then starts "jumping" from one set of satellites to another each two seconds or so. It does so even if the telephone is completely still. I think It should stay with the same satellites while not moving.
As you, I also tried all and every GPS fix script under the sun to no good, even filled a bug report for CM7 back in the day with no luck. It seems that a lot of people out there have perfectly working GPS (o so it seems).
This issue is quite strange though. I have a green lens Defy, and my wife has a Red lens one. We bought them several months apart and they both have the same accuracy issue, so it doesn't seem to be related to a bad production batch. I wonder if its related to geographic position (maybe it works worse in some countries, somehow)
Hopefully its a software issue and can be fixed.
I dont have this issue. Ive actually been sort of surprised at the accuracy of the GPS with CM7... it locks on within seconds (vs the minutes with Froyo). Almost instantaneous with WIFI and GPS on. And it is always accurate. Sorry to hear about your GPS troubles. It could be a hardware problem also?
Guys, i got a LeTV x600 with the same Soc, Helios X10.
It locks in 15+ sattelites and the signal strengh is great, however it has a nasty bug/problem. When driving/in motion, the accuracy error goes high, not the usual 2-3 meters. At 50km/h may be 25m, at 80km/h it's 35 meters of accuracy error. It appears that Meizu MX5, with the same X10, has the very same problem! This cause some delays and jumping on map apps.
Can anyone here please test this bug? You can use GPS Test (by default the error is in feet) or other GPS testing app that has accuracy error. Or, simply go to Engineer Mode > Location > YGPS > Information, the font is small there, so be carefull while driving!
Thanks in advance for this guys!
Hello everyone,
OP3 with OpenBeta 20 here. I have a Xiaomi MiBand 1S that always had a solid 2 weeks battery duration.
Since OB19, MiBand battery drastically dropped to 3-4 days. I'm pretty sure it's a bug related to the new bluetooth devices "improvements".
I also found someone from the Italian OP3 Facebook Community that has the exact same problem with MiBand 2 too.
Has anyone got the same problem? Do you know any workaround waiting for an official fix?
Thanks a lot!
EDIT: problem completely solved after OB21 update!
Hey
Same problem here - miband 2, OP3 with Open Beta 20, problems started with Open Beta 19.
Dropping bartery to 0%, pairing again, updates of firmware or app didnt helped.
I had the same problem with my mi band 2-
I reinstalled the mi band app and then i disabled all of the notification displayed on the band (calories, steps, etc..), the notification from the phone and the sleep assistant (basically disabled everything i could)
After that the battery drain was normal again, than I enabled everything i wanted again and the battery drain was back to normal
You can also try and delete the band from your device Bluetooth history
I'm using OB20 ( rooted with stock kernel for the last couple of days)
I think it has to do with the phone atempting to read battery level of the mi band.
New feature, battery level next to the bleutooth icon.
And it's keeps trying, but it can't.
I have miband 2, same problem.
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You can also try and delete the band from your device Bluetooth history
I'm using OB20 ( rooted with stock kernel for the last couple of days)
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OB20 no root here. Trying this solution right now, I'll let you know if it solves the issue.
Thanks!
The situation looks better after reinstalling Mi Band Tools & Mi Fit. Still monitoring...
repsol89 said:
The situation looks better after reinstalling Mi Band Tools & Mi Fit. Still monitoring...
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The problem happened again for me today, I re-paired the band in the mi band app and looks like it help
Battery drain magically disappeared after OpenBeta 21 update!
I've compiled a short list of frequently asked questions seen over various forums or points which were not clear to me (even as a user of MB2). If you find anything missing or incorrect, please let me know.
Q: How to track sleep?
A: Sleep is tracked automatically during night hours, Heart Rate sleep assistance can help in improvement of the detection of various phases. To view the sleep stats, open Mi Fit app and sync the band. Sleep/naps are not detected during day hours.
Q: Does Mi Band have automatic workout tracking?
A: No, workouts have to be started manually either from Mi Fit, or from the band directly.
Q: How to use 24/7 HR with less battery usage?
A: Configure "Automatic heart rate detection & Sleep assistant", detection frequency as desired. Do NOT enable activity detection - it will switch to continuous HR measurements whenever there is some activity detected (e.g. walking). When needed, use manual workout for continuous HR monitoring instead (which will also gather additional statistics).
Q: How to use a 3rd party watch face?
A: The most easy way is to use app like Notify & Fitness, Mi Band tools, etc to apply the watch face directly. Great selection of watch faces can be found here https://amazfitwatchfaces.com/mi-band-4/top. AmazFaces populates the "My band displays" in Mi Fit application.
Q: Is MB4 waterproof? Can I swim/shower with it?
A: Per standard GB/T 30106-2013 (or ISO 22810 : 2010(R2016)), 50m water resistance is rated as suitable for showering, surface swimming and shallow snorkeling. Diving is not recommended. After each submersion in sea water you have to clean the watch/band in fresh water.
Q: MB4 cycles through menu during water activities.
A: Enable lock screen on the band and try avoiding running water in the "down->up" direction. Shower can easily imitate slide up gesture and unlock the screen.
Q: MB4 detects HR when laying on the table or wrapped around inanimate objects.
A: "Signal-to-noise ratio of a real blood flow is sometimes very low so the algorithms are very sensitive in screening for any non-random components in the light variation, and when such are found they are interpreted as HR. So, the algorithms pretty much always find something which is not completely random and interpret that as a HR."
Source: https://www.wareable.com/fitness-trackers/why-heart-rate-monitor-work-on-toilet-rolls-6606
Q: What is behavior tagging in Mi Fit?
A: AFAIK behavior tagging is there only to help developers to make the band more accurate, once you stop the activity, data collected from sensors are uploaded to Xiaomi. It does not impact nor improve your statistics directly and it certainly drains the battery as sensors are being constantly pulled for data. When you start an activity, press the button in the upper right corner - it will switch to real time raw data of sensors.
Q: Is there a hardcoded minimum Heart Rate value (e.g. 47bpm)?
A: Band measures as low as 40bpm (if this value is actually 100% correct is hard to tell as it happens during sleep ).
Q: Are there 3rd party apps for Mi Band management? I do not like Mi Fit.
A: M̶i̶ ̶F̶i̶t̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶m̶a̶n̶d̶a̶t̶o̶r̶y̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶a̶l̶l̶ ̶3̶r̶d̶ ̶p̶a̶r̶t̶y̶ ̶a̶p̶p̶s̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶t̶i̶m̶e̶ ̶b̶e̶i̶n̶g̶.̶ ̶N̶o̶t̶i̶f̶y̶ ̶&̶ ̶F̶i̶t̶n̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶d̶e̶s̶i̶g̶n̶e̶d̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶a̶l̶m̶o̶s̶t̶ ̶a̶b̶s̶o̶l̶u̶t̶e̶ ̶r̶e̶p̶l̶a̶c̶e̶m̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶M̶i̶ ̶F̶i̶t̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶r̶e̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶a̶ ̶h̶i̶g̶h̶ ̶c̶h̶a̶n̶c̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶w̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶w̶o̶r̶k̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶a̶ ̶s̶t̶a̶n̶d̶a̶l̶o̶n̶e̶ ̶a̶p̶p̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶f̶u̶t̶u̶r̶e̶ ̶(̶s̶a̶m̶e̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶M̶B̶2̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶M̶B̶3̶)̶.̶ ̶O̶t̶h̶e̶r̶ ̶a̶p̶p̶s̶ ̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶o̶n̶l̶y̶ ̶a̶d̶d̶i̶t̶i̶o̶n̶s̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶r̶e̶q̶u̶i̶r̶e̶ ̶M̶i̶ ̶F̶i̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶i̶n̶s̶t̶a̶l̶l̶e̶d̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶u̶s̶e̶d̶.̶ It is possible to use N&F and some other apps in standalone mode, for more information follow https://www.freemyband.com/ guide (root and no root options available).
Q: I don't see detailed stats (steps, sleep, heart rate) for previous days, only summary in history.
A: When on the detailed screen of the current day, swipe right to navigate to detailed stats of previous days.
Q: Mi Band keeps unfastening itself during sleep or when dressing/wearing backpack etc.
A: Try to wear the band reversed (strap loop away from you, fastening button towards you). Also you can buy a silicone strap keeper (generic 14mm or specifically for Mi Band on Ali/eBay/..) to keep band on hand even when accidentally unfastened.
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Hello, I just have a curiosity regarding the effective frequency used by Mi Band 4 to track the steps.
Sometimes it tracks steps very fluently, almost in real time; other times instead it stops counting on the display and after a while it adds a group of steps in a bunch (it always tracks steps but on the display it's not always reported in real time).
Why does it happen?
Does the heartbeat frequency detenction work in the same way or is it different?
Thanks
In my experience, steps are updated in real time when there is a long enough continual activity (walking outside, running etc.). For short activities with a lot of breaks (around the house) it tends to update in batches. It might have something to do with "clearing up the noise" - band waits for "chaotic" small numbers to accumulate and then applies some kind of statistical filter to provide accurate number of steps. Also all activities must have 10 steps at minimum.
Maybe someone else has better explanation though..
Heart beat rate is being recorded by Mi Band itself at set frequency and displayed on the phone only after sync (or during workout). For some reason watch faces with HR display show different value than Mi Fit after the sync. So far I haven't figured why
Hi,
Is it possible to make the band vibrate when it looses BT connection? I tried using "Anti-loss my phone feature" in "Notify & Fitness app" but it says "Instead this option use native connection lost notification for best results". Where can I find this native option?
Best regards
kslonka said:
Hi,
Is it possible to make the band vibrate when it looses BT connection? I tried using "Anti-loss my phone feature" in "Notify & Fitness app" but it says "Instead this option use native connection lost notification for best results". Where can I find this native option?
Best regards
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As far as I know, this feature was part of the official firmware on Mi Band 2, but has been removed on Mi Band 3 and 4. N&F offers a workaround with alarms which are constantly being rescheduled, but as it's written in the instructions, this "beta feature" will most probably drain your phone and band battery very quickly. If you really miss this feature, you could try submitting a feature request via Mi Fit app and hope that it'll get implemented some day officially.
_mysiak_ said:
As far as I know, this feature was part of the official firmware on Mi Band 2, but has been removed on Mi Band 3 and 4.
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Do you know if there is a custom firmware that has this feature?
Anyway, thanks for your reply. I've ordered Mi Band 2 and if it works better for me I'll return the 4.
How can I share my mifit band 4 activities from the official mifit app? The latest in Google play I mean
kslonka said:
Do you know if there is a custom firmware that has this feature?
Anyway, thanks for your reply. I've ordered Mi Band 2 and if it works better for me I'll return the 4.
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There is no custom firmware for MB4 as of now, only custom resources (languages, icons). Also I found an information that firmware must be signed, so unless someone finds a way how to crack this security mechanism, there won't be a custom firmware.
I find MB2 still very good, but nice big screen with custom watch faces and easy starting of workouts from MB4 is very addictive. Just curious - why do you find this "anti loss" feature so important?
felixcuceanu said:
How can I share my mifit band 4 activities from the official mifit app? The latest in Google play I mean
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What exactly do you want to share? Workouts can be synced to Google Fit for example, or exported as a screenshot from Mi Fit.
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why do you find this "anti loss" feature so important?
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I work at a large software company, we have on-call duty so I need to be available. When I want to go to the beach or to the swimming pool I would like to get notifications from my band. If I loose the connection to the phone and do not get a notification I might miss some critical alert.
kslonka said:
I work at a large software company, we have on-call duty so I need to be available. When I want to go to the beach or to the swimming pool I would like to get notifications from my band. If I loose the connection to the phone and do not get a notification I might miss some critical alert.
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I see. For your use case I would look for a smart watch with a SIM card. Using a smart band connected to a phone will be extremely limiting for you. Even if you'll receive the notification that you're out of range, this will happen more often than not - practically almost immediately once you're in the water or a couple of meters away from the phone, so I'd expect to be notified very often. Btw. MB4 shows on the watch face once it's disconnected from the phone, but it's only a small icon - there is no vibration or any special notification shown. It might help if you glance at your band every now and then..
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There is no custom firmware for MB4 as of now, only custom resources (languages, icons). Also I found an information that firmware must be signed, so unless someone finds a way how to crack this security mechanism, there won't be a custom firmware.
I find MB2 still very good, but nice big screen with custom watch faces and easy starting of workouts from MB4 is very addictive. Just curious - why do you find this "anti loss" feature so important?
What exactly do you want to share? Workouts can be synced to Google Fit for example, or exported as a screenshot from Mi Fit.
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I managed to share directly from the app by pressing on the activity result. Thank you! I shared it as an image
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I see. For your use case I would look for a smart watch with a SIM card.
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Do you have any recommendations? I prefer android and would love it to be completely standalone (I'm not sure about eSIM).
_mysiak_ said:
Using a smart band connected to a phone will be extremely limiting for you. Even if you'll receive the notification that you're out of range, this will happen more often than not - practically almost immediately once you're in the water or a couple of meters away from the phone, so I'd expect to be notified very often.
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I did not know that bluetooth range is reduced to a couple of inches when the device is under water :/. If MB2 would vibrate every time my hand goes under wanter then I do not want it. I guess I can use MB4 and "mi bandage" / "fitness & notify" phone loss feature when I go into the water with an interval ~5 min to remind me to get out of water and check to see if there are any notifications and I can disable it when I do not want it.
kslonka said:
Do you have any recommendations? I prefer android and would love it to be completely standalone (I'm not sure about eSIM).
I did not know that bluetooth range is reduced to a couple of inches when the device is under water :/. If MB2 would vibrate every time my hand goes under wanter then I do not want it. I guess I can use MB4 and "mi bandage" / "fitness & notify" phone loss feature when I go into the water with an interval ~5 min to remind me to get out of water and check to see if there are any notifications and I can disable it when I do not want it.
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Personally I don't have any experience with smart watches beyond Mi Band, but the usual choice seems to be Samsung Galaxy watch series.
Bluetooth in general doesn't have great penetration of solid obstacles, in my experience it reaches about max 5 meters with one or two walls in the way, and often it's even less. Situation is slightly better in open space. Quick Google search says, that watch will lose connectivity just about 3 cm under water (which may be the case with eSIM too, I couldn't find more info about it). With WiFi it's about 15cm (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3355409/). I guess that simple reminder to check your phone will be probably your best choice if you're planning to spend some time in water (or leave someone near your phone and he/she will let you know if any notification arrives ).
kslonka said:
I work at a large software company, we have on-call duty so I need to be available. When I want to go to the beach or to the swimming pool I would like to get notifications from my band. If I loose the connection to the phone and do not get a notification I might miss some critical alert.
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IMHO the app Mi Bandage can emulate this behaviour by continuously setting up an alarm on the Mi Band a few minutes in the future. So the alarm will trigger if it's time doesn't get updated by the app because the connection was lost. I wish I could emulate this behaviour with Tasker somehow without needing the app. (currently using Gagetbridge and additionally Mi Band Tools just because of the gesture support for Tasker. But I can't recommend because Mi Band Tools is very annoying regarding asking you to enable notification access for the Mi Fit app even if it's not installed)
sunsero said:
IMHO the app Mi Bandage can emulate this behaviour by continuously setting up an alarm on the Mi Band a few minutes in the future. So the alarm will trigger if it's time doesn't get updated by the app because the connection was lost. I wish I could emulate this behaviour with Tasker somehow without needing the app. (currently using Gagetbridge and additionally Mi Band Tools just because of the gesture support for Tasker. But I can't recommend because Mi Band Tools is very annoying regarding asking you to enable notification access for the Mi Fit app even if it's not installed)
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This is exactly what N&F does. Though prolonged use will have impact on the battery as it needs very often wake locks and data synchronizations.
How can I install 1.0.7.0.4 on miband four?
felixcuceanu said:
How can I install 1.0.7.0.4 on miband four?
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From N&F app. But you need to remove Mi Fit (or replace it with patched version), otherwise it will reflash the FW with the latest official stable version (1.0.6.16).
Is there any posibility to get sleep data (REM) in realtime from miband 4? Raw data don't interesting. For my project with arduino and etc. Or maybe sensor + sleep phase recognition.
IlluminatusII said:
Is there any posibility to get sleep data (REM) in realtime from miband 4? Raw data don't interesting. For my project with arduino and etc. Or maybe sensor + sleep phase recognition.
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I don't think that it's possible. Sleep is calculated afterwards, only after the sleep has ended, and from raw data gathered during the night. For example start of sleep is using historic data - e.g. no movement for 5 minutes, add canditate for sleep start, if no further major movement detected within 30 minutes, make it permanent, if steps detected, cancel sleep tracking. You can't have this kind of data in real time. Also band itself doesn't do any calculations, the sleep processing is done in the app.