No more security updates - Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers

I just read that the original Pixel and Pixel XL will be getting no more monthly security updates. Will this send you shopping for a new(er) phone? When I had Motorola phones, they were almost never up-to-date with security updates. I guess going a few months without an update isn't the end of the world. Once it's more than 6 months past due, I'll probably start shopping for something more recent. I do love this phone though.

lmacmil said:
I just read that the original Pixel and Pixel XL will be getting no more monthly security updates. Will this send you shopping for a new(er) phone? When I had Motorola phones, they were almost never up-to-date with security updates. I guess going a few months without an update isn't the end of the world. Once it's more than 6 months past due, I'll probably start shopping for something more recent. I do love this phone though.
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Looks like one last update in December that will include Nov and Dec security patches. Probably do the same as you and replace or maybe flash a custom ROM not sure. Pixel 3a XL looks tempting.

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lpen2146 said:
Looks like one last update in December that will include Nov and Dec security patches. Probably do the same as you and replace or maybe flash a custom ROM not sure. Pixel 3a XL looks tempting.
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I just got a 3xl and it is pretty nice. I suppose the 3a would also be a good option.
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lafester said:
I just got a 3xl and it is pretty nice. I suppose the 3a would also be a good option.
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I noticed you can get open box or refurbished 3xl for $350-380 range and roughly same for 3axl. So not sure which one I would get. I replaced battery on my XL about 8 months ago an phone is still a strong performer so can't justify getting rid of just yet.

I know... It is still a great phone. I passed it along so it will stay in the family for awhile yet.
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I'll hold off upgrading and use stock custom roms for the security patches, then hopefully the Pixel 4a/XL is a reality this coming May. If not, I'll just wait it out for the Pixel 5/XL.

I will definitely wait till the Pixel 4a release, see, and come to a decision. If they bring UFS back then I will purchase it. I see no point in upgrading to a Pixel 3, let alone a 3a. With a phone in OG Pixel's calibre, one should be able to skip three generations at least. What a pity, Google stopped the support, for a perfectly capable phone.
I never bothered with them security patches anyway, only flashed every three months or so. So running an outdated device in terms of security for six months is really nothing.

-Maverick- said:
I'll hold off upgrading and use stock custom roms for the security patches, then hopefully the Pixel 4a/XL is a reality this coming May. If not, I'll just wait it out for the Pixel 5/XL.
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+1! Same.
But I always use custom roms anyway. I hope a 4axl drops that's around 3-$400.
Everyone always makes a HUGE deal out of security patches. I don't think its such a big deal. Wasn't long ago that Google made some kinda statement saying nobody could hack their security patch and if so then they'd pay whoever did it 5k. Some kid did it a few days after google made the statement. I mean sure it makes us a tad more vulnerable but who hasn't gotten email or social media compromised before? I think we are good. ?
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-Maverick- said:
I'll hold off upgrading and use stock custom roms for the security patches, then hopefully the Pixel 4a/XL is a reality this coming May. If not, I'll just wait it out for the Pixel 5/XL.
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+1 Really have no reason to get a new phone, Pixel XL just works. This is the first phone I've not needed to use a custom Rom since getting the OG Droid way back when. Pixel 4 w/o finger print does not thrill me.
So, any Rom recommendations [emoji6]
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@hudhacks I use lineage 17.0 has a few small ui bugs that were fixed in an later update i haven't updated to yet and occasional random reboots once a week at most but otherwise very stable. :good:

hudhacks said:
+1 Really have no reason to get a new phone, Pixel XL just works. This is the first phone I've not needed to use a custom Rom since getting the OG Droid way back when. Pixel 4 w/o finger print does not thrill me.
So, any Rom recommendations [emoji6]
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UNOFFICIAL Lineage 17 is likely my choice, but I'm waiting for it to go "Official" before I jump in and some minor bugs get ironed out.

Thanks

Hi I am looking to make the same upgrade
lafester said:
I just got a 3xl and it is pretty nice. I suppose the 3a would also be a good option.
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Can you please tell me how does the 3 perform in comparison to the og pixel especially in camera battery and volume of speakers

I just purchased a pixel 3a xl on amazon will let you guys know my opinions when it arrives by middle of next week
I currently have the og pixel xl

hudhacks said:
+1 Really have no reason to get a new phone, Pixel XL just works. This is the first phone I've not needed to use a custom Rom since getting the OG Droid way back when. Pixel 4 w/o finger print does not thrill me.
So, any Rom recommendations [emoji6]
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Google search "DU rom" and use latest pie build for marlin from August under official tab.... It may be Pie but I've already flashed to Android 10 and to me Pie is better, for now anyway. Many Substratum themes work better because they haven't been updated and looks like many that are pie compatible aren't going to be... I use Alined substratum theme on DU 13.5. I have found no bugs whatsoever. Rock solid stable and awesome battery and performance!! DU has always been a favorite of mine. ?
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Looks like we have one last Google update coming in December! https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/5/20950210/google-pixel-xl-final-security-original-update-december
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yes

Does being on Custom Rom still offer unlimited original quality Google Photo Storage for this phone. I'm keeping this phone due to this reason only, having unlimited original quality upload. Thinking of buying a new phone but somehow having it so photos get uploaded from my Pixel XL. Bit of a task I guess but well worth it imo.

I know this is off topic, but there isn't a lot of traffic here anymore and most of the og pixel XL users here are probably in this discussion.... Do you guys have issues with your autorotation and auto brightness on the pixel XL?
I love the pixel XL I bought except for these 2 issues. It can't figure out the screen brightness or the autorotation. Stock room, not rooted. I went back to the OnePlus 5 for dual Sims and the second OnePlus 5 I got was just like the first one I killed in saltwater. Perfect Auto rotate and auto brightness. The pixel has slightly better camera, smoothness and was better about updates (OnePlus 5 is still on pie until spring of 2020). But overall I like the OnePlus better (for a few reasons but the biggest is the auto rotate and auto brightness or only semi functional on my pixel XL. Maybe it's just my unit?

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Honeymoon Over Already??

I managed to pick up a Pixel 2 XL about a week ago. Initially I was very impressed and excited about it. 48 hours later I was "meh". The camera is great, assistant awesome at interpreting requests and to me - nothing beats the stock android experience.
Frankly I'm a bit disappointed at Google for allowing Verizon to sell this phone (and Google selling it) with the bootloader locked.
History:
I've owned every Nexus/Pixel since Google and HTC released the very first device.
Before the Pixel I used the S8. I preferred it's size to the S8+.
I think my dream device would be the Pixel experience in the S8 form factor or the Pixel XL's minimal bezel design in a smaller form factor. (angrily staring at the design team behind the Pixel 2)
After the 5T launch today - I'm toying with the idea of just buying one of those and selling this XL
What are your thoughts?
taifuller said:
I managed to pick up a Pixel 2 XL about a week ago. Initially I was very impressed and excited about it. 48 hours later I was "meh". The camera is great, assistant awesome at interpreting requests and to me - nothing beats the stock android experience.
Frankly I'm a bit disappointed at Google for allowing Verizon to sell this phone (and Google selling it) with the bootloader locked.
History:
I've owned every Nexus/Pixel since Google and HTC released the very first device.
Before the Pixel I used the S8. I preferred it's size to the S8+.
I think my dream device would be the Pixel experience in the S8 form factor or the Pixel XL's minimal bezel design in a smaller form factor. (angrily staring at the design team behind the Pixel 2)
After the 5T launch today - I'm toying with the idea of just buying one of those and selling this XL
What are your thoughts?
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One Plus is trash. Keep the XL.
dhaugru said:
One Plus is trash. Keep the XL.
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What's that based on? Have you had a chance to handle the 5T? (Not trying to be funny, just curious)
I'm aware of the differences in specs. Looking at value, pocketing a couple hundred bucks while having a very similar experience is appealing.
Try it hands on style and report back. Good luck
taifuller said:
What's that based on? Have you had a chance to handle the 5T? (Not trying to be funny, just curious)
I'm aware of the differences in specs. Looking at value, pocketing a couple hundred bucks while having a very similar experience is appealing.
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It feels like I see something weekly about them stealing user data. No thanks. Also 1080 screen, no water resistance, some new BS camera that will under perform....nah. Happy with my Note 8 and 2 XL.
No, I haven't touched the 5T and have no desire to.
taifuller said:
I managed to pick up a Pixel 2 XL about a week ago. Initially I was very impressed and excited about it. 48 hours later I was "meh". The camera is great, assistant awesome at interpreting requests and to me - nothing beats the stock android experience.
Frankly I'm a bit disappointed at Google for allowing Verizon to sell this phone (and Google selling it) with the bootloader locked.
History:
I've owned every Nexus/Pixel since Google and HTC released the very first device.
Before the Pixel I used the S8. I preferred it's size to the S8+.
I think my dream device would be the Pixel experience in the S8 form factor or the Pixel XL's minimal bezel design in a smaller form factor. (angrily staring at the design team behind the Pixel 2)
After the 5T launch today - I'm toying with the idea of just buying one of those and selling this XL
What are your thoughts?
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Do what you want, bro.
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dhaugru said:
One Plus is trash. Keep the XL.
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Not completely true. I just came from the 3T. It was great except the camera. It actually took over as my favorite phone (that I've owned) from the S3. I also have a OnePlus One and bought the 5 but didn't like it so I kept my 3T until I got the 2 XL.
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MrMeeseeks said:
Not completely true. I just came from the 3T. It was great except the camera. It actually took over as my favorite phone (that I've owned) from the S3. I also have a OnePlus One and bought the 5 but didn't like it so I kept my 3T until I got the 2 XL.
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See my previous comment to give you context to back up my opinion.
I agree, I have the note 8 and 2 xl currently. Thinking hard about returning 2 xl and buying the 5t. I got a locked bootloader also, this phone isnt as fun as a unlocked. Ill never buy from verizon again. I got lucky last year and was able to use depixel8 before the patch, not so lucky this time around.
the only advantage oneplus has over pixel is the price but if you can afford pixel, pixel is better choice.
Oneplus wont update the phone beyond 2 updates, that means you'll have to depend on custom roms after android P.
Also this my personal point of view that they are drifting away from the stock android slowly, their useless apps like clock, calculator, dialer doesnt make sense.
releasing a phone every 6 months is another thing i dont like.
pixel has faster updates, longer support, better camera.
I'm an ex oneplus 3 and oneplus 3t user btw.
but ultimately things do come to your personal preference and point of view.
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nothing beats the stock android experience...Frankly I'm a bit disappointed at Google for allowing Verizon to sell this phone (and Google selling it) with the bootloader locked.
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I'm confused. The phone is awesome, but because you apparently chose to buy the Verizon version and the bootloader is locked, you don't like it.
First of all, you do realize that 99.9% of the population has no F-ing clue what a bootloader is, nor will they ever in a million years care to find out.
But according to you, Google is somehow at fault for allowing a carrier to sell a phone with an insignificant modification none of its mainstream customers will care about. And somehow this is a "problem"?
If you are so outraged about the bootloader, why didn't you buy the device directly from Google?
Second of all, since when does the Pixel 2 XL run stock Android? Stock Android is the latest AOSP build. At this point Google has a thinly skinned Android variant that can only be described as "Google's Android".
And if you're so into "stock" Android, why does it matter if the bootloader is locked? So you can put a custom rom onto the device and thereby not use "stock" Android?
Apologies but your post seems to have no purpose than to bash the Pixel 2 XL and suggest that buying another device is a good idea. Why do we need to tell you what to do? If you don't like it, get rid of it. End of story.
I had the OnePlus 5, awesome phone considering the price.
But the camera sucks, no waterproofing, and slow updates.
Plus the updated launcher sucks.
TokyoGuy said:
I'm confused. The phone is awesome, but because you apparently chose to buy the Verizon version and the bootloader is locked, you don't like it.
First of all, you do realize that 99.9% of the population has no F-ing clue what a bootloader is, nor will they ever in a million years care to find out.
But according to you, Google is somehow at fault for allowing a carrier to sell a phone with an insignificant modification none of its mainstream customers will care about. And somehow this is a "problem"?
If you are so outraged about the bootloader, why didn't you buy the device directly from Google?
Second of all, since when does the Pixel 2 XL run stock Android? Stock Android is the latest AOSP build. At this point Google has a thinly skinned Android variant that can only be described as "Google's Android".
And if you're so into "stock" Android, why does it matter if the bootloader is locked? So you can put a custom rom onto the device and thereby not use "stock" Android?
Apologies but your post seems to have no purpose than to bash the Pixel 2 XL and suggest that buying another device is a good idea. Why do we need to tell you what to do? If you don't like it, get rid of it. End of story.
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Well, thanks for your point of view. Certainly wasn't my intent to upset you or anyone else who enjoys the phone.
I never cited the bootloader lock as an issue for not liking the phone. I do LIKE the phone. Obviously I do not think it's a deal breaker because I DID knowing purchase a bootloader locked edition of the phone. My point is times are changing and I either need to change with them or find a better value. I said was disappointed in Google for allowing the change.
I'm stating from a value standpoint there may be other options that offer a similar experience. Of course value is perceived by everyone differently.
Thinking back to the Nexus 5, in my opinion one of the best phones released under Google's hand, was awesome because of the value. Yes, I'm aware that when the Nexus 6 came out we left value land for premium land.
What I meant by bringing up the 5T is - I can purchase very similar hardware for less and run the same applications at no additional costs. The trade off is a sacrifice in screen quality and camera quality??
Thank you on your clarification of what the true stock android experience is. To clarify, I prefer "Google's Android" to other manufacturer's implementation of Android. Is that better?
I got great feedback from others that I reminded me of the non-tangible benefits of owning the Pixel over a different device.
dhaugru said:
One Plus is trash. Keep the XL.
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more like, OnePlus is amazing for the price, but Pixel 2 XL is better in nearly every way (except charging speed)
Source: own/ed OnePlus One, OnePlus 3, Nexus 5X, Nexus 6P, Pixel XL, Pixel 2 XL
2x4 said:
more like, OnePlus is amazing for the price, but Pixel 2 XL is better in nearly every way (except charging speed)
Source: own/ed OnePlus One, OnePlus 3, Nexus 5X, Nexus 6P, Pixel XL, Pixel 2 XL
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I bought the OPO and OP2 from them. The OPO, great...the OP2....terrible. I have also been active on their forum for years and that has told me all I need to know about them.
They will not see anymore of my money.
dhaugru said:
I bought the OPO and OP2 from them. The OPO, great...the OP2....terrible. I have also been active on their forum for years and that has told me all I need to know about them.
They will not see anymore of my money.
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i didn't get the OP2 since I read terrible reviews about it, but I did get the OP3 and it has been amazing to be honest in my experience (except for the GPS lock bug that was present a few months, which has since been resolved). I am both impressed by the fluidity, speed, and frequency of updates on their software and disappointed by their decision to only provide major feature updates on the OP3/T for such a short time (not to mention launch the OP5T without Oreo)
I got the Pixel XL 2 since I wanted a better camera and so my SO could use my OP3 with 2 SIM cards (for more data), but I could have easily kept it and kept using it past the SW timeline via custom ROMs - even the camera is pretty amazing once you sideload the GCAM mod that lets you use Google's algorithm (SIGNIFICANTLY better post-processing than the stock camera)
2x4 said:
i didn't get the OP2 since I read terrible reviews about it, but I did get the OP3 and it has been amazing to be honest in my experience (except for the GPS lock bug that was present a few months, which has since been resolved). I am both impressed by the fluidity, speed, and frequency of updates on their software and disappointed by their decision to only provide major feature updates on the OP3/T for such a short time (not to mention launch the OP5T without Oreo)
I got the Pixel XL 2 since I wanted a better camera and so my SO could use my OP3 with 2 SIM cards (for more data), but I could have easily kept it and kept using it past the SW timeline via custom ROMs - even the camera is pretty amazing once you sideload the GCAM mod that lets you use Google's algorithm (SIGNIFICANTLY better post-processing than the stock camera)
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Yeah see that's the thing for me....I don't want to have to d*ck with custom ROMs or sideloading anything. My communication is way too important to me to take chances modding my device.
Glad you like the 2 XL. I am happy with it as well. Currently flipping back and forth between the 2 XL and Note 8. Can't decide which one I like more...depends on the day. :laugh:
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Yeah see that's the thing for me....I don't want to have to d*ck with custom ROMs or sideloading anything. My communication is way too important to me to take chances modding my device.
Glad you like the 2 XL. I am happy with it as well. Currently flipping back and forth between the 2 XL and Note 8. Can't decide which one I like more...depends on the day. :laugh:
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What makes you pick the N8 somedays besides the screen? Curious not bashing.
taifuller said:
I managed to pick up a Pixel 2 XL about a week ago. Initially I was very impressed and excited about it. 48 hours later I was "meh". The camera is great, assistant awesome at interpreting requests and to me - nothing beats the stock android experience.
Frankly I'm a bit disappointed at Google for allowing Verizon to sell this phone (and Google selling it) with the bootloader locked.
History:
I've owned every Nexus/Pixel since Google and HTC released the very first device.
Before the Pixel I used the S8. I preferred it's size to the S8+.
I think my dream device would be the Pixel experience in the S8 form factor or the Pixel XL's minimal bezel design in a smaller form factor. (angrily staring at the design team behind the Pixel 2)
After the 5T launch today - I'm toying with the idea of just buying one of those and selling this XL
What are your thoughts?
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No need to look angry at the design team mate. Can't make a small phone with small bezels without severely reducing the battery size. Which in turn will make battery life suck.
Gilley said:
What makes you pick the N8 somedays besides the screen? Curious not bashing.
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I like the procision of the S-Pen. I am also in sales and it's handy to quickly jot a quick note when working with customers to gain contact info or to highlight important points within the conversation.
I also use it as my in-flight media library with the expanded storage. The headphone jack is nice too!

pixel xl 2

Is it worth upgrading to a pixel xl 2 at this time of year? Is it better to hold off and get a new handset from another manufacturer like p20 pro from Huawei
Depends what you're looking for I guess: The latest, fastest hardware... or always running the latest software.
Personally I wanted a trouble-free phone (I'm not even rooting anymore) that will get Android updates very quickly. I don't care that much for the latest hardware as long as my phone is fast, and the Pixel 2 is blazing fast.. so yeah, the choice was obvious for me.
What are you looking for in a phone? The best hardware for 12 months, of the latest software for the 24-36 months to come? Both are valid choices really
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Depends what you're looking for I guess: The latest, fastest hardware... or always running the latest software.
Personally I wanted a trouble-free phone (I'm not even rooting anymore) that will get Android updates very quickly. I don't care that much for the latest hardware as long as my phone is fast, and the Pixel 2 is blazing fast.. so yeah, the choice was obvious for me.
What are you looking for in a phone? The best hardware for 12 months, of the latest software for the 24-36 months to come? Both are valid choices really
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I like the idea of pixel xl 2 but there are new phones getting released in a months time in Paris etc. I just don't want to regret getting the pixel xl 2 knowing it has display problem or should I hold off for the Huawei P20 pro. I don't want a Samsung S9 as it alwsys lags
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Is it worth upgrading to a pixel xl 2 at this time of year? Is it better to hold off and get a new handset from another manufacturer like p20 pro from Huawei
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If it were me, and it's not, and if you can, I would hold out until at least October. By then you'll have a good read on how the new phones are performing, and see what Google has to offer in the Pixel 3. I love my P2XL, having said that, I'm already looking forward to what the P3XL has to offer. And that's my 2 pennies worth ?
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If it were me, and it's not, and if you can, I would hold out until at least October. By then you'll have a good read on how the new phones are performing, and see what Google has to offer in the Pixel 3. I love my P2XL, having said that, I'm already looking forward to what the P3XL has to offer. And that's my 2 pennies worth ?
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I'm hearing you but I'm due for an upgrade. I don't want to wait till October and make my decision based on that. I'm talking about a months time at the most. I know the Pixel XL 2 is one amazing device but coming from a flawless screen scares me that the pixel xl 2 might irritate me with lower quality screen.
I was expecting sony to release a new 4k device at MWC but that didn't happen as i was looking forward to that. On the other hand the P20 pro is around the corner. Seeing what the mate 10 pro achieved it might be worth getting the P20 pro with 3 cameras and OLED display. I will get the pixel in a heart beat but worried about screen as it is the most used part of the screen.
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I'm hearing you but I'm due for an upgrade. I don't want to wait till October and make my decision based on that. I'm talking about a months time at the most. I know the Pixel XL 2 is one amazing device but coming from a flawless screen scares me that the pixel xl 2 might irritate me with lower quality screen.
I was expecting sony to release a new 4k device at MWC but that didn't happen as i was looking forward to that. On the other hand the P20 pro is around the corner. Seeing what the mate 10 pro achieved it might be worth getting the P20 pro with 3 cameras and OLED display. I will get the pixel in a heart beat but worried about screen as it is the most used part of the screen.
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If buying from google they have a two week return if your not happy. No risk to test it.
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If buying from google they have a two week return if your not happy. No risk to test it.
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I'm not getting it directly through google. Its through a carrier. So I can't test the device.

considering buying in 2019

Hi as the title suggests i am considering buying the pixel 2xl now in 2019 and was hoping to get some feedback . Since he pixel 3 is now available the pixel 2xl has become affordable for me now as i could not afford it when it was released and i have also found some in brand new condition. What would the pros and cons. I am a big fan of stock android and the closest i was able to get at an affordable price was the oneplus 5t which i currently use. Two of my deciding factors in choosing the pixel is firstly the stock android Os and secondly the camera which is said to be one of the best features. Thanks for reading and i look forward for some opinions.
Price?
Approx £300-330 new condition
Key is don't buy Verizon Pixel XL 2. Make sure they guarantee "oem unlocking" switch can be toggled on in Dev.Option
Argos selling Pixel 2 XL 128Gb for £399. I purchased for self Panda White.
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sam00561 said:
Hi as the title suggests i am considering buying the pixel 2xl now in 2019 and was hoping to get some feedback . Since he pixel 3 is now available the pixel 2xl has become affordable for me now as i could not afford it when it was released and i have also found some in brand new condition. What would the pros and cons. I am a big fan of stock android and the closest i was able to get at an affordable price was the oneplus 5t which i currently use. Two of my deciding factors in choosing the pixel is firstly the stock android Os and secondly the camera which is said to be one of the best features. Thanks for reading and i look forward for some opinions.
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I just bought one for $140 verizon unlocked, i dont really care about unlocking bootloader since it has android pie and runs good. Cons is probably that i it doesnt have headphone jack and no sd card slot besides that its a good phone.
I say go for it. I wouldn't say there are any cons. Just the headphone jack and no sd card slot like timex said but unless you take a lot of pictures and videos space should never be an issue It's a great phone and stock android and the camera are big pluses. You also get access to google fi if you're interested, the latest updates and betas for new android versions and performance is never a problem in my opinion. I heavily use mine for social media, games and other things and never run into issues. Even if you don't plan on rooting or flashing a custom rom it's an all around good phone at stock and it seems like it'll get even better with Q.
Unless you're okay with the biggest notch out there, I would say wait for the Pixel 4 (rumours that it'll be a pinhole, so I'm real excited about that as it's the main reason I didn't go for the 3...)...
But if you have to have a Pixel now....the least I can say is that I'm using the Pixel 2 XL (still) and I still consider it a perfect phone; still a great camera, runs the latest and greatest of Pie, dual stereo speakers, no notch!, and an all day battery...
300 eur - good deal
£300 - hmm, a litle bit expensive for 2017 phone. I got mine one year ago 128gb version for 350 eur (verizon version).
I use mine one year, it's still smooth and fast and very good camera. Just look (design) isn't new-nice.
That's what I thought about the price perhaps a little high at over £300. But that see is for a brand new one I can pick up used one for around £260 or£280 but I prefer buying new when it's a phone. Also like I said will the pixel be a massive improvement on the 5T I currently have.
Camera will be big jump.
I am using a Panda 2XL, still a great phone and I will probably keep it until the 4 is released.
Bought mine Panda version month ago,no cons for me i can say,great device,all running smooth,paid for used,but no scratches or so,still in quarantie 250€,and i would say great price,happy to get one...
Get new One plus phone
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Get new One plus phone
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Never buy OP, it's Chinese producer which always lies and cheats. Now all OP phones are overprice. If you want Chinese phone, get xiaomi or etc.
paulyz said:
Never buy OP, it's Chinese producer which always lies and cheats. Now all OP phones are overprice. If you want Chinese phone, get xiaomi or etc.
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Lol.. lies and cheats how?
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Lol.. lies and cheats how?
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Benchmarks, camera photos
100% go for it, I got the Pixel 2 XL about a month ago and the phone hasn't let me down once. If you like taking photos all the time then I'd say get this phone as the quality of the photos come out so clean and high quality. I'm always blown away on how good the camera is and how good the performance runs on this phone. The only thing you'll probably miss out is the headphone jack thats literally it. Plus if you're interested they got the Android Q beta going on right now!
I considered, and I got it - and I don't regret it so far it's a great device!
Yess. Go for it. Got my black version of XL just 2 days back and I cant stop loving it [emoji7] You wont regret it.
Pros- Fluid UI
I had iphone 7 which i loved due to the buttery smooth interface, was confused with the android but this XL makes me forget the iphone ever since I got it.
Updates - Quick updates ( as you know)
Beautifully crafted design - As premium as 2019 flagships. Hand down [emoji7]
Camera - Freaking awesome!
And so much more. Just go for it.
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Is Pixel 2 a good choice now ?

Hello I'm looking for upgrade from Samsung Note 3. I'm looking for phone with best camera and big screen for about 260$ used.
I can get Pixel 2Xl for like 900zł/1000pln its about 262,11 dolars is it worth it still ? My friend told me that i should get some more money and get k20 pro but i think Pixel 2 will take far more better photos? Or am i wrong ?
I really liked photos taken by Samsung S8 i can't get anything lower than that ;P
i got a second-hand pixel 2xl 128gb in previous month
no regret at all
u still get monthly update till next year which makes me excited at all
with modded pixel camera, u can get super res zoom, 1-minute astronography mode, only pixel phones can use those mods
If you like playing games go for the k20 pro as it has more processing power.
If you like a nice software experience (with still 1 year more of guaranteed updates), a camera that still fights face to face with the newest flagships, unlimited Google Photos storage until 2021... then get the Pixel.
Thanks ! Gonna hunt for cheap good shape pixel 64 Gb and stick with it for some time
I'm to old for mobile games i want mini dslr in my pocket
JackyGundam said:
i got a second-hand pixel 2xl 128gb in previous month
no regret at all
u still get monthly update till next year which makes me excited at all
with modded pixel camera, u can get super res zoom, 1-minute astronography mode, only pixel phones can use those mods
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Any phone*
JackyGundam said:
i got a second-hand pixel 2xl 128gb in previous month
no regret at all
u still get monthly update till next year which makes me excited at all
with modded pixel camera, u can get super res zoom, 1-minute astronography mode, only pixel phones can use those mods
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May I ask what camera mod you use?
Bobyouall said:
May I ask what camera mod you use?
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cstark pixel mod
I intend to stay with my Pixel 2 xl for at least another year. the best smartphone I ever had. good battery, fantastic camera, and it's extremely fast.
I bought my P2XL off of Swappa in January. That's the only way I'll purchase phones from now on. Unless you get free or highly discounted from your carrier, you will lose so much curb value as soon as you take possession of it. Swappa stands behind their listings too.
I would rather go with a pixel 3axl. I guess it will get 2 years of update.
I'm still on my Oct 18 Pixel 2 XL and it's running so well that I skipped the 3 XL, might skip the 4 XL, and even seriously considering waiting for the pixel 5 XL next year. Yes, I think it's that good!
The camera takes seriously good pics. I've compared real life pics to the iPhone 11 (my daughter's) the Note 8 (friend at work) but have not compared it to the K20.
My battery life is still great, 5-6 hrs SOT with fairly heavy use which is what I was getting when it was new.
Seriously, the 2 XL is a beast of a phone and unless you got plenty of $$$ to burn, or yo must have the latest flagship device, I doubt you'll be disappointed with a bargain priced 2 XL.
Az Biker said:
I'm still on my Oct 18 Pixel 2 XL and it's running so well that I skipped the 3 XL, might skip the 4 XL, and even seriously considering waiting for the pixel 5 XL next year. Yes, I think it's that good!
The camera takes seriously good pics. I've compared real life pics to the iPhone 11 (my daughter's) the Note 8 (friend at work) but have not compared it to the K20.
My battery life is still great, 5-6 hrs SOT with fairly heavy use which is what I was getting when it was new.
Seriously, the 2 XL is a beast of a phone and unless you got plenty of $$$ to burn, or yo must have the latest flagship device, I doubt you'll be disappointed with a bargain priced 2 XL.
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Thanks for your experience.
I have a Pixel 2 XL that is not mine. I would like to know if updating to magisk v20.x solves the stuck at battery icon when it shuts down is solved?
I would really appreciate this as my time is currently limited more than usual, and I also plan to take a TWRP backup, update kernel, etc.
Windroid-user said:
Thanks for your experience.
I have a Pixel 2 XL that is not mine. I would like to know if updating to magisk v20.x solves the stuck at battery icon when it shuts down is solved?
I would really appreciate this as my time is currently limited more than usual, and I also plan to take a TWRP backup, update kernel, etc.
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Not sure exactly to what you are referring with the "stuck battery icon" at shut down, but I don't experience any anomalies like that on the latest Magisk (oct factory image)...
Not sure if this helps or not, but the only thin I get once in a great while is after a reboot, I loose touch capability on the display, but a long press power button cycle fixes it and it only happens once or twice a month, so not even on my "worry radar"
I'm currently interested in getting a phone strictly for Gcam since Pixel 3/3a and above have prices out of this Earth (Pixel 3a sells @500 EUR+), i'm not decided what to choose between Pixel 2XL and Mi 9 /Mi 9T. I know i'm asking this question on Pixel 2XL forum but I'd appreciate some objective opinions on what should i choose
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Not sure exactly to what you are referring with the "stuck battery icon" at shut down, but I don't experience any anomalies like that on the latest Magisk (oct factory image)...
Not sure if this helps or not, but the only thin I get once in a great while is after a reboot, I loose touch capability on the display, but a long press power button cycle fixes it and it only happens once or twice a month, so not even on my "worry radar"
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Thanks a ton for your answer.
I'm guessing you haven't let it get to 0% or not used magisk 19.x and it seems like that is indeed fixed on magisk 20.x
Where do you think this touch capability issue comes from? In other words what kernel and/or ROMs at you using? Obviously this can also be magisk modules and other things.
Not my phone btw:laugh:
AllexRo said:
I'm currently interested in getting a phone strictly for Gcam since Pixel 3/3a and above have prices out of this Earth (Pixel 3a sells @500 EUR+), i'm not decided what to choose between Pixel 2XL and Mi 9 /Mi 9T. I know i'm asking this question on Pixel 2XL forum but I'd appreciate some objective opinions on what should i choose
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I have the Mi 9T, very happy with the decision.
However, I am on locked bootloader and completely stock with some debloating. I do have Gcam and unfortunately I really am the wrong person to answer this question.
What I can tell you as of NOW, is that the development support is not as good as it can be. It is by no means bad but because of broken kernel sources (to my knowledge) it has hindered it whilst the Pro models have more kernels, ROMs etc.
I am sure that this will greatly improve and match the Mi 9T/K20 Pro once android 10 with its kernel sources are out.
I do enjoy stock and locked though. Around 7 hour SOT 2 day battery life for me.
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Thanks a ton for your answer.
I'm guessing you haven't let it get to 0% or not used magisk 19.x and it seems like that is indeed fixed on magisk 20.x
Where do you think this touch capability issue comes from? In other words what kernel and/or ROMs at you using? Obviously this can also be magisk modules and other things.
Not my phone btw:laugh:
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I'm running Nov factory image, latest 10 EX kernel, latest TWRP, and latest Magisk... the only thing that's not the latest is my 2XL
Honestly, I thing the weirdness with the touch not registering sometimes is either a software hangup (as it always clears on hard reboot) or a Android 10 vs TWRP thing as back in the day, TWRP had similar touch issues with 8x I think it was (albeit that was only when actually in TWRP recovery.
But like any other bug issue; if it barely affects my life, or is easy to get rid of, I'll gladly deal with it to not be stock and to have all the options root gives me (even if I've been waaaaay too lazy lately to do anything other than flash latest factory images)
JackyGundam said:
only pixel phones can use those mods
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sure thing buddy

Last leg

So, I made it from 2014 until today with my Nexus 6.
Was going to just do a battery swap and see how many more years I could ride this thing. Couldn't have done it without LineageOS.
My 3a XL should be here Friday.
I'll probably tear open my N6 to swap the battery just to see if I can keep it alive a little longer. But it would be interesting to see the longest someone has kept the same phone.
I also just came from Shamu. Unfortunately I broke the screen on my first (still have it) so I didn't technically make it that long on a single phone. I keep all my phones though. Still have my Nexus One, though it's been years since I've even powered it up.
You're going to love the 3a. It feels so much better in the hand than Shamu and everything is so much faster. And don't even get me started on the battery life. I consistently got 5-6 sot on my builds on Shamu (4 ish on stock) and now I get double that.
Consistent
Here is my normal at about 50%
I locked my bootloader out of boredom last week running latest complete stock with these results.
Good device for sure. I have 3a xl from T-Mobile fyi
Yea, I came form a Nexus 5x (had it for 2 and a half years) and the improvements over that are insane. I no longer have to keep it charging constantly and it's so much smoother.
Sent from my Google Pixel 3a XL using XDA Labs
I had a Nexus 6 myself but technically came from a Moto g6. You'll love the pixel 3a xl, it's by far the best phone I have used and performance wise it's a well deserved upgrade from Shamu.
The only downer right now is the lack of twrp but everything else about the phone is amazing.
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I had a Nexus 6 myself but technically came from a Moto g6. You'll love the pixel 3a xl, it's by far the best phone I have used and performance wise it's a well deserved upgrade from Shamu.
The only downer right now is the lack of twrp but everything else about the phone is amazing.
It came today. Playing with it now. I really like how it feels in my hand. The Nexus 6 was horribly uncomfortable.
spastico said:
It came today. Playing with it now. I really like how it feels in my hand. The Nexus 6 was horribly uncomfortable.
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Exactly. This solved the slightly too wide issue Shamu had. I will say the smaller screen will take a little getting used to. I still find myself wishing for a slightly larger one fairly often.
I am switching to 3a from original MotoX running JellyBean mostly due to the battery not lasting long enough. I had a spare Moto X that I bough used for $100, this one runs KitKat and battery life is better (I rarely used/charged it) but it has problems running Google Maps, so considering current promotions on Amazon I finally made a move.
How do you know your phone is too old? When Chrome Browser has a menu item that says there will be no further browser updates due to OS not being supported. This is what I have on JellyBean, the one on KitKat is still being updated but inability to use Google Maps and a lot of new apps no longer being compatible finally pushed me to upgrade.
Og pixel xl about to be unsupported no more security updates after december so here you go moved on to a pixel 3a xl. I found a Great deal on amazon 150 off for a used 6 month old phone pretty satisfied.:good:
Got my P3aXL Friday. Great device.
But, I could see getting by with my Nexus 6 another year or so on LineageOS and a new battery.
ctfrommn said:
Exactly. This solved the slightly too wide issue Shamu had. I will say the smaller screen will take a little getting used to. I still find myself wishing for a slightly larger one fairly often.
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Long time no see... Just ordered my 3a xl... are you still doing roms or kernels these days on that german site?
I have a kernel thread here. As soon as all the Rom issues get worked out Velocity will be alive and well again here as well.
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I have a kernel thread here. As soon as all the Rom issues get worked out Velocity will be alive and well again here as well.
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Great... and your on xda which just makes it all easier for us end users. I think I am the only one of your original 3 n6 testers thats still messing with roms. Once I get mine and settle in maybe I will test for you again as those private velocity builds we tested made the n6 screaming fast
spastico said:
So, I made it from 2014 until today with my Nexus 6.
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Dang dude, that's impressive.
I got a LG G3 in 2014, but moved to a Honor 8 after a couple of years before moving to the 3a XL a couple of months ago. Both those phones where rooted, but the manufactures were slow with updates and eventually stopped updating them. I ran custom ROMs on both, but eventually even those dry up, especially when a new major Android version comes out and the manufactures doesn't update the drivers to the new OS. Perhaps I'll have better luck with the 3a.
The Nexus 6 got lots of support from the custom ROM community. I'm hoping this 3a will be supported close to the same.
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The Nexus 6 got lots of support from the custom ROM community. I'm hoping this 3a will be supported close to the same.
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Will be by me as long as I own this. The main reason I moved in from Shamu was Pie was never functional to my standards on it. Many things never worked right and the battery was much worse than Oreo.
spastico said:
The Nexus 6 got lots of support from the custom ROM community. I'm hoping this 3a will be supported close to the same.
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Unfortunately, there isn't much in the way of development on the 3a series. There is certainly more development on the flagship 3/4 level than the 3a, but even that level is less than the Nexus 6 - at least in the heyday. I don't think that will ever change. The good news is that raw Pixel OS isn't bad and obviously we can root our phones and have access to some development and modifcations, but it will never be at Nexus 6 levels.
sic0048 said:
Unfortunately, there isn't much in the way of development on the 3a series. There is certainly more development on the flagship 3/4 level than the 3a, but even that level is less than the Nexus 6 - at least in the heyday. I don't think that will ever change. The good news is that raw Pixel OS isn't bad and obviously we can root our phones and have access to some development and modifcations, but it will never be at Nexus 6 levels.
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Shamu was no cake walk to get fully functional builds on for the first 3-4 months after it came out and that was a basic 32 bit device with none of the recent security, partition, and other fun Google has thrown at us with Android 10. Shamu was also one of (if not the best) devices you could buy in 2014. Development will get sorted out at some point (soon hopefully) and when it does there will be at least 1 Rom for these which is all I need.
LineageOS is still kicking out updates for the Nexus 6.
I know a battery swap is doable, but a little more than what I want to dig into. Otherwise, I had no real reason to move on.
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LineageOS is still kicking out updates for the Nexus 6.
I know a battery swap is doable, but a little more than what I want to dig into. Otherwise, I had no real reason to move on.
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That may be, but Pie Roms on Shamu were never fully bug free and the battery was never as good. I spent months trying to get all the issues resolved and never did. The reduced battery youre seeing is almost certainly from running a Pie Rom and not because the battery is too old. Just prior to getting the 3a I was running my Oreo build and still getting 5-6 hrs SOT on it vs roughly 2.5-3 on any/every Pie build I made (or tried).

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