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LeEco Le Pro 3 Review (Real User Review)

I've had my Le Pro 3 for over a week now and just published my full detailed video review which covers pretty much everything from the design, cameras, dual loudspeakers, benchmarks, GPS and wifi range and speeds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfTIx-DWcmo
I also ran a speed test and comparison against my Xiaomi Mi 5S Plus just to see how they compared as both have Snapdragon 821's and 4GB of RAM.
Overall it's a very decent mobile however, it still has the flaws from the Le Max 2, large black bezels, no MicroSD or 3.5mm port are deal breakers for some. Audio from the type-c to 3.5mm adaptor is very clean and sounds great. No static and loud too.
The camera is a bit of a let down, no OIS still and while it can take some decent photos in good light, low light and video is not the greatest for a flagship mobile. The Chinese need to really step up their game on the camera department. I wouldn't by this mobile for the best camera, I would buy it for good performance and great battery life. I was able to get around 11 hours of SoC (continuous)
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Benchmarks and battery life screen grabs:

Thx with this first review

Thank you And great job !

I was planning to ditch my Axon 7 for this phone, but not really that sure anymore. Seems like a lateral transfer, not really an upgrade in any way (except for battery life I suppose?).

wow..12hr screen on time. That is impressive.

Hendrickson said:
I've had my Le Pro 3 for over a week now and just published my full detailed video review which covers pretty much everything from the design, cameras, dual loudspeakers, benchmarks, GPS and wifi range and speeds.
I also ran a speed test and comparison against my Xiaomi Mi 5S Plus just to see how they compared as both have Snapdragon 821's and 4GB of RAM.
Overall it's a very decent mobile however, it still has the flaws from the Le Max 2, large black bezels, no MicroSD or 3.5mm port are deal breakers for some. Audio from the type-c to 3.5mm adaptor is very clean and sounds great. No static and loud too.
The camera is a bit of a let down, no OIS still and while it can take some decent photos in good light, low light and video is not the greatest for a flagship mobile. The Chinese need to really step up their game on the camera department. I wouldn't by this mobile for the best camera, I would buy it for good performance and great battery life. I was able to get around 11 hours of SoC (continuous)
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Benchmarks and battery life screen grabs:
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I want to buy the phone because it has great specs (does it feel as good as it sounds?) but I want to know if google services work flawlessly e.g. contact syncing,play store. Since you have this phone what is your general opinion about it, does it work buying it?
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tritran18518 said:
wow..12hr screen on time. That is impressive.
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I think that 12 hours was the time it was active

chtsarts said:
I want to buy the phone because it has great specs (does it feel as good as it sounds?) but I want to know if google services work flawlessly e.g. contact syncing,play store. Since you have this phone what is your general opinion about it, does it work buying it?
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I think that 12 hours was the time it was active
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I also have this phone. No problem with Google services or Play store. Contactar syncing was perfect, with Google account and others account.
Two days with It and i like It a lot.
In my experience 6:30 of screen with 4G and almost without wifi.
Sorry for my english.

Thanks for the review. Maybe the Pro3 is not the best phone ever made. But it seems to be very very good, will most likely not explode and - taking into account the price - there is simply no competition. Hopefully, my phone will be delivered soon ...

I've received it today...very beautiful and work really good. We need an international ROM however.
I have this problem...it doesn't let me change or delete default APN. A problem I read is already present in other EUI smartphone someone has solved this Problem?
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Hendrickson said:
I've had my Le Pro 3 for over a week now and just published my full detailed video review which covers pretty much everything from the design, cameras, dual loudspeakers, benchmarks, GPS and wifi range and speeds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfTIx-DWcmo
I also ran a speed test and comparison against my Xiaomi Mi 5S Plus just to see how they compared as both have Snapdragon 821's and 4GB of RAM.
Overall it's a very decent mobile however, it still has the flaws from the Le Max 2, large black bezels, no MicroSD or 3.5mm port are deal breakers for some. Audio from the type-c to 3.5mm adaptor is very clean and sounds great. No static and loud too.
The camera is a bit of a let down, no OIS still and while it can take some decent photos in good light, low light and video is not the greatest for a flagship mobile. The Chinese need to really step up their game on the camera department. I wouldn't by this mobile for the best camera, I would buy it for good performance and great battery life. I was able to get around 11 hours of SoC (continuous)
Camera samples:
Benchmarks and battery life screen grabs:
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Thanks for that great review. Just some questions. Believe there are some like me who do not have access to LeEco products but are still keen on buying from an online reseller but have some concerns.
1. Are there any noticeable hardware issues? - understand that there are some complaints recently even on the le 2 that the display was not installed properly. Wondering if there are other types of defects that could render the device unusable for the obsessive compulsive people out there
2. What sort of rom is your unit using? - Importers/international sellers are known to meddle with the device to cater to the demands of their target demographic especially to those outside of china, hence, they can install fake roms (custom miui roms that don't receive updates for example) or install play store (after a restore to factory option, the gapps disappear)
3. The rom US units use seem to differ to the non-us units and the model numbers also differ. Would this be an issue if say the international rom is released and its not compatible with a unit bought from an importer? - had an issue before with a mi5 where the rom was an unofficial one and had to go through the hassle of unlocking the bootloader and installing the global rom instead
4.Any idea of software support in the long run and how prompt are LeEco's updates; ie Android N?
Thanks in advance and patience!

I know that US version x727 should be only 4/64 4gb ram and 64 GB ROM. It should have different LTE bands...in order to be used on us market.
Probably the us ROM couldn't be used on Chinese units.
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Thanks for a great review. I am ordering this when it becomes available in the US. Can't beat the price for what is in it.

androFRUST said:
Thanks for that great review. Just some questions. Believe there are some like me who do not have access to LeEco products but are still keen on buying from an online reseller but have some concerns.
1. Are there any noticeable hardware issues? - understand that there are some complaints recently even on the le 2 that the display was not installed properly. Wondering if there are other types of defects that could render the device unusable for the obsessive compulsive people out there
2. What sort of rom is your unit using? - Importers/international sellers are known to meddle with the device to cater to the demands of their target demographic especially to those outside of china, hence, they can install fake roms (custom miui roms that don't receive updates for example) or install play store (after a restore to factory option, the gapps disappear)
3. The rom US units use seem to differ to the non-us units and the model numbers also differ. Would this be an issue if say the international rom is released and its not compatible with a unit bought from an importer? - had an issue before with a mi5 where the rom was an unofficial one and had to go through the hassle of unlocking the bootloader and installing the global rom instead
4.Any idea of software support in the long run and how prompt are LeEco's updates; ie Android N?
Thanks in advance and patience!
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I have been using pro3 (x720) for three weeks. The screen display picture occasionally shake for about 0.2 second. This is the most disturbing issue. You can find the same complain in the Chinese leEco forum. Beside, mobile signal is not as strong as the nexus 5 I used for almost 3 years. If you can ignore these two issue, it's a great phone to have.

jwong.hhf said:
I have been using pro3 (x720) for three weeks. The screen display picture occasionally shake for about 0.2 second. This is the most disturbing issue. You can find the same complain in the Chinese leEco forum. Beside, mobile signal is not as strong as the nexus 5 I used for almost 3 years. If you can ignore these two issue, it's a great phone to have.
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Do you think its software related? Whats the rom they're using? Is it like the Mi phones where there is a vendor altered rom installed and does leeco release global stable roms like miui? Sorry, bear with me here ! thanks!

androFRUST said:
Do you think its software related? Whats the rom they're using? Is it like the Mi phones where there is a vendor altered rom installed and does leeco release global stable roms like miui? Sorry, bear with me here ! thanks!
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We all running stock rom with/without root. I hope it's rom related issue. As of now ,no official rom zip is available from LeEco.

Hi,
Just bought the 6/64 nonUS Version to use in Europe. Bought it after watching your review, thanks for that!....
Will directly root the phone in order to remove the chinese App's but wating for some plain Android rom's (stock Android). Had CM9 or so on a galaxy before and i wasnt that suprised as i supposed to be, but will also give it a try if it comes available to the Le Pro 3....
I'm sure with the actual specs and this awesome price the community behind the Pro3 will grow fast. Also i would donate 10€ to support the devs.
Sure to be here more often in future.
Thx&Rgds,
Maxcyber

I just got my Chinese version (6GB/64GB Dual Sim) - The phone is lightning fast. Screen looks great - camera is okay (I just snap pics anyways not really a photo person). The screen is decent if not a bit washed out. Indoors is just fine - outdoors I have to crank it to about 85% to see it. The fingerprint reader seems lightning fast if not 100% accurate. ( I get about 4 out 5 times). It let me add multiple fingerprints to unlock left or right handed. Overall the build is pretty solid. I put in my att sim and did not have to do anything else. Picked up all my settings. My antutu scores are 162397 - just shy of iphone 7 scores. Apparently the install is not google certified. I cannot run Pokemon Go or Android Pay (and snapchat I am told I don't use it). Pokemon Go is the soul breaker for me...
The GPS seems to lock lightning quick. I have not had any issues with Google apps although some updating had to happen (google services, play app, mail app etc...).
The battery seems amazing. I am getting great times out of it I don't have exact numbers but so far so good at least as good as my s7 edge.
I was able to put the google now launcher on it so no issue with the leeco skin.
Hopefully with the US launch tomorrow it will have a google certified image so I can run Pokemon go if not I am not sure I will keep it.

Pokemon go functions on official ROM ...see my screenshots.
I can't Android pay isn't active in Italy.I can't prove it...sorry.
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Yeah I don't understand I got mine from geekbuying.com so why would I not have official rom?
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andy88de said:
Pokemon go functions on official ROM ...see my screenshots.
I can't Android pay isn't active in Italy.I can't prove it...sorry.
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I got the 6g/64gb dual sim model from geekbuying - how can I get the correct rom on it?

See here!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/help/le-pro-3-pokemon-t3491441
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LG V30+ Oreo Update in India?

Can anyone tell me if LGV30+ has got the Oreo update in India or not? Waiting for your reply? And if it got the update then how is the battery life and performance after the update.

souvikxda said:
Can anyone tell me if LGV30+ has got the Oreo update in India or not? Waiting for your reply? And if it got the update then how is the battery life and performance after the update.
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No, not been released to India yet. Not even all U.S.carriers have it.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+

There's a thread for V30+ India - please follow that. Am sure it'll be put up as soon as the OTA hits

Lh v30+ oreo update
No its not been yet came in india.
Hope it will come in may 18

Just got the OTA update for Oreo and AI Cam on my V30+ with April 1 security patch. Update size is about 2 GB. Yet to check the battery life and other performance improvements, if any.

vinodkumardevadi said:
Just got the OTA update for Oreo and AI Cam on my V30+ with April 1 security patch. Update size is about 2 GB. Yet to check the battery life and other performance improvements, if any.
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You got this on 30th April? Please, let us know the battery life and the camera.

souvikxda said:
You got this on 30th April? Please, let us know the battery life and the camera.
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Yes, just got it today. Will post an update on battery life and camera in a couple of days.

vinodkumardevadi said:
Yes, just got it today. Will post an update on battery life and camera in a couple of days.
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Is your device Indian model? With Indian firmware?

sai444 said:
Is your device Indian model? With Indian firmware?
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No. I actually bought it in Singapore.

vinodkumardevadi said:
No. I actually bought it in Singapore.
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I also bought in Singapore. But using LG UP tool i had flashed to India firmware (H930DS10e_00_OPEN_ESA_DS_OP_0123.kdz). I had done this to make JIO SIM work for me.
After I connected to LG bridge tool and it popped up for software. I got OREO update but while rebooting the screen shows LG V30+ ThinQ instead of LG v30+. Do you guys know why? The software version I see is "V20B-SEA-XX"
Also earlier VOLTE was not working for my STARHUB but now it is working. Hurray! But I am worried whether JIO will work or not when I go back to India. Any thoughts?

ganeshv02 said:
I also bought in Singapore. But using LG UP tool i had flashed to India firmware (H930DS10e_00_OPEN_ESA_DS_OP_0123.kdz). I had done this to make JIO SIM work for me.
After I connected to LG bridge tool and it popped up for software. I got OREO update but while rebooting the screen shows LG V30+ ThinQ instead of LG v30+. Do you guys know why? The software version I see is "V20B-SEA-XX"
Also earlier VOLTE was not working for my STARHUB but now it is working. Hurray! But I am worried whether JIO will work or not when I go back to India. Any thoughts?
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Since the device is updated with the AI capabilities of V30S ThinQ, the V30 and V30+ are now officially ThinQ branded. V20B-SEA-XX is the latest version available. As for Jio, I think it should work just fine since the decice supports the band that Jio uses.

Ok guys, it's been 2 days since the oreo update on my V30+ and here's a brief review so far.
1) The AI camera capabilities isn't a game changer here. You'll only observe some minute differences in these areas.
Better Dynamic range.
Bright mode comes handy.
2) Battery life is considerably improved over Nougut version. The total usage time was 18h 40mins from 100% to 5% with a screen usage time of 5hr 43 mins. Played some games like PUBG and Relic Run and then sone youtube videos. After that I've downloaded 2 full hd movies in the background about 4GB. Location, wifi and mobile data were ON the whole time. Also, I didn't enable the battery saver too. So I think this is very good compared to all the other flagship devices with similar battery capacity.
3) No update is without cons and in this case, too many app crashes. Frequent YouTube crashes and then I constantly receive the pop-up "Unfortunately, this app has stopped" for the app "Appy Geek" which I use as a widget. Some of the other apps crash too and this is really annoying.
4) Even when you select Icon shape as "Original" in the Home screen settings, you still get rounded square icons. It makes no sense!!
Overall, Oreo update isn't exactly something to look forward to until these bugs are fixed.

vinodkumardevadi said:
Ok guys, it's been 2 days since the oreo update on my V30+ and here's a brief review so far.
1) The AI camera capabilities isn't a game changer here. You'll only observe some minute differences in these areas.
Better Dynamic range.
Bright mode comes handy.
2) Battery life is considerably improved over Nougut version. The total usage time was 18h 40mins from 100% to 5% with a screen usage time of 5hr 43 mins. Played some games like PUBG and Relic Run and then sone youtube videos. After that I've downloaded 2 full hd movies in the background about 4GB. Location, wifi and mobile data were ON the whole time. Also, I didn't enable the battery saver too. So I think this is very good compared to all the other flagship devices with similar battery capacity.
3) No update is without cons and in this case, too many app crashes. Frequent YouTube crashes and then I constantly receive the pop-up "Unfortunately, this app has stopped" for the app "Appy Geek" which I use as a widget. Some of the other apps crash too and this is really annoying.
4) Even when you select Icon shape as "Original" in the Home screen settings, you still get rounded square icons. It makes no sense!!
Overall, Oreo update isn't exactly something to look forward to until these bugs are fixed.
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Strange i am from india i didn't receive any update its still on the march security patch

rm8226 said:
Strange i am from india i didn't receive any update its still on the march security patch
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He got the update coz he bought it from Singapore and sea variant got the update. India is still laging behind but nonetheless you can flash the Hong Kong ds one.

mehra1 said:
He got the update coz he bought it from Singapore and sea variant got the update. India is still laging behind but nonetheless you can flash the Hong Kong ds one.
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Did flash the hong kong ds my jio VOLTE was unable to make or recieve call because apparently the VOLTE wasn't working

vinodkumardevadi said:
Ok guys, it's been 2 days since the oreo update on my V30+ and here's a brief review so far.
1) The AI camera capabilities isn't a game changer here. You'll only observe some minute differences in these areas.
Better Dynamic range.
Bright mode comes handy.
2) Battery life is considerably improved over Nougut version. The total usage time was 18h 40mins from 100% to 5% with a screen usage time of 5hr 43 mins. Played some games like PUBG and Relic Run and then sone youtube videos. After that I've downloaded 2 full hd movies in the background about 4GB. Location, wifi and mobile data were ON the whole time. Also, I didn't enable the battery saver too. So I think this is very good compared to all the other flagship devices with similar battery capacity.
3) No update is without cons and in this case, too many app crashes. Frequent YouTube crashes and then I constantly receive the pop-up "Unfortunately, this app has stopped" for the app "Appy Geek" which I use as a widget. Some of the other apps crash too and this is really annoying.
4) Even when you select Icon shape as "Original" in the Home screen settings, you still get rounded square icons. It makes no sense!!
Overall, Oreo update isn't exactly something to look forward to until these bugs are fixed.
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Do a factory reset after a version upgrade. it'll fix the errors.

rm8226 said:
Did flash the hong kong ds my jio VOLTE was unable to make or recieve call because apparently the VOLTE wasn't working
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For the time being instal Jio4gVoice app from playstore as it works for me.

mehra1 said:
For the time being instal Jio4gVoice app from playstore as it works for me.
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Didn't work tried i installed the app it said phone is VOLTE use dialer app

vinodkumardevadi said:
Since the device is updated with the AI capabilities of V30S ThinQ, the V30 and V30+ are now officially ThinQ branded. V20B-SEA-XX is the latest version available. As for Jio, I think it should work just fine since the decice supports the band that Jio uses.
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Actually jio did not work when I had android 7.1.2 when I was in India last time. Then I had to flash to Indian firmware found on lg-firmwares.com. I made it work after that by enabling volte from hidden menu. With oreo, I will try one more time when I visit India in July.

rm8226 said:
Didn't work tried i installed the app it said phone is VOLTE use dialer app
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Try to use the hidden menu to enable volte. If it still does not work then u have to flash back to India firmware. As I mentioned jio is not working on other region firmware. I had the same problem.

General Pixel 6 and 6 Pro get out-of-cycle November update to improve the fingerprint sensor

"An update with the November security patch arrived for the majority of Pixel 6 and 6 Pro owners at the end of October. Google is now releasing updated builds for both phones, with global and Verizon variants.
Update 11/17: According to Verizon, this mid-cycle update “improves the performance of your device’s fingerprint sensor.” Early anecdotes of the 14.56MB OTA are bearing that out. However, “Check for update” does not currently trigger the download for all users."
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Pixel 6 Pro – SD1A.210817.037 – all – Factory Image – OTA
Pixel 6 Pro – SD1A.210817.037.A1 – Verizon – Factory Image – OTA
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Pixel 6 and 6 Pro get out-of-cycle November update to improve the fingerprint sensor [U]
An update with the November security patch arrived for the majority of Pixel 6 and 6 Pro owners at the end of October. Google is now....
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My FP scanner was working pretty well but after the update it's even faster and unlocks in the same amount of time consistently now.

ajsmsg78 said:
My FP scanner was working pretty well but after the update it's even faster and unlocks in the same amount of time consistently now.
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That's good to hear. I'm still waiting for the update :/

Yeah ... looks indeed like a tiny bit of improvement ...

Still doesn't work with my tempered glass SP .

Mine was not bad before the update, but it is certainly faster and more consistent afterwards. Also very glad to see my unlocked version on Verizon pulled the correct VZ update right away.

anyone in UK had it yet? Got mine from Google store but no update is showing for me

skimminstones said:
anyone in UK had it yet? Got mine from Google store but no update is showing for me
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Not so far

mkhcb said:
Still doesn't work with my tempered glass SP .
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Check this: https://9to5google.com/2021/11/15/pixel-6-screen-protector-fingerprint/

I got it last night and it did indeed improve the FPS.
I wish they would update the camera to use the tele lens for Portrait and to use the user-selected lens for photos regardless of conditions.

Definite improvement. Makes this phone feel like the caliber it's supposed to be.

skimminstones said:
anyone in UK had it yet? Got mine from Google store but no update is showing for me
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Nope.

Seems faster!

TonikJDK said:
Mine was not bad before the update, but it is certainly faster and more consistent afterwards. Also very glad to see my unlocked version on Verizon pulled the correct VZ update right away.
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So your phone isn't on the global software version now? I'm on Verizon too but don't want their software version. Right now I'm on the global software. Still haven't received the update so I was curious about your situation. Thanks

I'm not really noticing a FP change but I never had problems with it to begin with.

droidrev71 said:
So your phone isn't on the global software version now? I'm on Verizon too but don't want their software version. Right now I'm on the global software. Still haven't received the update so I was curious about your situation. Thanks
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Mine never pulled the first update so I sideloaded the VZ version. This time it pulled the VZ version.

I never had probs with the Fingerprint. But the system seems to open a bit faster.
Automatic brightness is working much better, too.

IMO the whole thing with the FPS was overblown. I never had an issue with it and it was certainly better than the one in my LG V60. I bet if Samsung had this same FPS performance, there wouldn't be any complaints.

Could someone please tell me how can I tell if my phone is locked or unlocked?

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Mine never pulled the first update so I sideloaded the VZ version. This time it pulled the VZ version.
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Ok. Mine was able to pull the first one by itself. Wonder what's going to happen.. I might have to side load the global version.

Question Things not working, after flashing CN (ColorOS) to Global (OxygenOS)

Hey,
I wanna understand and make a collection of things that don't work so far after flashing to Global OOS. Try to get a rough idea of what I lose out if I go for CN unit
I made an order for OP11 (device + buds pro 2), its a pretty good deal but have recently found out that in china they sells for as much as 30-40% lower compared to the price I paid.

Esim. That's all.
I also wanted to do the same thing and get a converted unit, but instead I pre-ordered UK op11 and I got a bang and Olufsen speaker worth 230£ ( I'll sell it for at least 150) and a further 100£ discount using trade in. So I got my op11 global 16/256 for 550£. Cheaper than china, and I get EU warranty

I will tell you whats not working on my device.
1. If i set display color to natural, it will shift to vivid mode and vice versa all the time.
2. Changing from fhd to qhd, display size goes larger and cant open camera and some apps(this also happens when i put face id unlock or fingerprint.
3. Bluetooth audio is changing codecs all the time and cant listen music normally listening on tws earphones.
4. Telephoto camera focus is also buggy.
5. If i do number 2. Only way to fix it is reverting to fhd display and restart the phone. Which means I'm capped to only use fhd screen for now.
6. I dont have 5ghz hotspot if i want to turn it on. Only 2.4
7. Fingerprint senzor sometimes wont work at all
8. Face unlock is very bad also

BratoMo225 said:
I will tell you whats not working on my device.
1. If i set display color to natural, it will shift to vivid mode and vice versa all the time.
2. Changing from fhd to qhd, display size goes larger and cant open camera and some apps(this also happens when i put face id unlock or fingerprint.
3. Bluetooth audio is changing codecs all the time and cant listen music normally listening on tws earphones.
4. Telephoto camera focus is also buggy.
5. If i do number 2. Only way to fix it is reverting to fhd display and restart the phone. Which means I'm capped to only use fhd screen for now.
6. I dont have 5ghz hotspot if i want to turn it on. Only 2.4
7. Fingerprint senzor sometimes wont work at all
8. Face unlock is very bad also
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sounds really annoying. does android auto work for u?

gerald_ said:
sounds really annoying. does android auto work for u?
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I use 2001 vw idk man haha

XDRdaniel said:
Esim. That's all.
I also wanted to do the same thing and get a converted unit, but instead I pre-ordered UK op11 and I got a bang and Olufsen speaker worth 230£ ( I'll sell it for at least 150) and a further 100£ discount using trade in. So I got my op11 global 16/256 for 550£. Cheaper than china, and I get EU warranty
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in my country, we only got buds pro 2 + extended warranty + screen protection plan, all together for like $800. UK definitely had the better deal
not cheaper than china anymore, they currently have quite some competition - nubia, meizu all releasing their new devices. Xiaomi, IQOO making price cuts etc.

gerald_ said:
sounds really annoying. does android auto work for u?
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yep, quite annoying. i can't use it as the daily primary device.
android auto works, would be nice if it works in cos also.

BratoMo225 said:
I will tell you whats not working on my device.
1. If i set display color to natural, it will shift to vivid mode and vice versa all the time.
2. Changing from fhd to qhd, display size goes larger and cant open camera and some apps(this also happens when i put face id unlock or fingerprint.
3. Bluetooth audio is changing codecs all the time and cant listen music normally listening on tws earphones.
4. Telephoto camera focus is also buggy.
5. If i do number 2. Only way to fix it is reverting to fhd display and restart the phone. Which means I'm capped to only use fhd screen for now.
6. I dont have 5ghz hotspot if i want to turn it on. Only 2.4
7. Fingerprint senzor sometimes wont work at all
8. Face unlock is very bad also
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+AOD has very strange refreshing frequency, very uncomfortable looking at it

gerald_ said:
sounds really annoying. does android auto work for u?
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Android Auto does work perfectly

Question OnePlus 11 vs Motorola x40

I've just received my global op11 a few days ago and I'd like to share my experience after also having a Motorola x40 CN version for a couple of weeks.
I paid 530£ for the Motorola but honestly it's so much better than OnePlus. Better software, more features, Wireless charging, ip68, better speakers(not louder but more bass) and telephoto camera seems better. Unfortunately because it was a Chinese variant, that means no possibility to lock BL on global Rom like OnePlus and no support, warranty etc. Limited Google services. It also seems to warm up a bit more than Motorola
Now for the OnePlus 11.
I pre-ordered and received a 100£ discount and a speaker which I'm planning to sell for 150£ și technically I'm only paying 550£ for the phone itself.
What's better about the OnePlus is the main camera and battery and also much better support because it's a more popular device and I get EU warranty and proper Google services.
Conclusion is:
If the Motorola launches x40 globally and it's in the same price range or has discounts or offers equivalent I would 10000% go for Motorola. It's a much much better phone

XDRdaniel said:
I've just received my global op11 a few days ago and I'd like to share my experience after also having a Motorola x40 CN version for a couple of weeks.
I paid 530£ for the Motorola but honestly it's so much better than OnePlus. Better software, more features, Wireless charging, ip68, better speakers(not louder but more bass) and telephoto camera seems better. Unfortunately because it was a Chinese variant, that means no possibility to lock BL on global Rom like OnePlus and no support, warranty etc. Limited Google services. It also seems to warm up a bit more than Motorola
Now for the OnePlus 11.
I pre-ordered and received a 100£ discount and a speaker which I'm planning to sell for 150£ și technically I'm only paying 550£ for the phone itself.
What's better about the OnePlus is the main camera and battery and also much better support because it's a more popular device and I get EU warranty and proper Google services.
Conclusion is:
If the Motorola launches x40 globally and it's in the same price range or has discounts or offers equivalent I would 10000% go for Motorola. It's a much much better phone
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Interesting thanks for your small review about the moto X40, I also ordered one from china.
Do you think we could just flash the EU rom from the edge 40 when it comes out? As both phones are identical.
I just wonder also what you mean with no possibility to lock BL on global Rom? Does it mean we can't unlock the bootloader of the Moto X40?

jody2k said:
Interesting thanks for your small review about the moto X40, I also ordered one from china.
Do you think we could just flash the EU rom from the edge 40 when it comes out? As both phones are identical.
I just wonder also what you mean with no possibility to lock BL on global Rom? Does it mean we can't unlock the bootloader of the Moto X40?
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You can't relock bootloader on Global, it'll bricked like Xiaomi chinese phone.

I live in China and I also used moto x40 for a week (then returned it), and now I've used OnePlus 11 for over a month.
There are obviously some reasons that I can't accept with moto x40:
- The screen is easily getting touched by mistakes, especially on the edge of the screen. Sometimes even if I just hold the phone in my hand and do not move my fingers at all, the phone still thinks I'm touching the screen.
- Sometimes the system is stuck while scrolling in a list view, especially in the "global" apps (e.g. twitter, youtube).
Overall the hardware of x40 is good, but the software is less good than I expect.
OnePlus 11 has a higher price, (￥4000 for x40 and ￥4400 for OP 11, both are 256GB models), but it's reasonable because OP 11 has 16 GB RAM (x40 has 12GB).
OP 11 also has a better camera and a longer battery life.
The only downside for OP 11 is the type-c port is running at USB 2.0, which limits it to 480 Mbit/s. x40 has a full-featured USB 3.2 port, including video outputs.

L0nelyE4rth said:
You can't relock bootloader on Global, it'll bricked like Xiaomi chinese phone.
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Hmm okay so that means you cant get official updates anymore if you unlock BL? Need to flash them manually? That's a bit dissapounting indeed but not impossible to do .
Are we sure phone will get bricked on the x40 if we try relock BL? Is this a common issue?

hronro said:
I live in China and I also used moto x40 for a week (then returned it), and now I've used OnePlus 11 for over a month.
There are obviously some reasons that I can't accept with moto x40:
- The screen is easily getting touched by mistakes, especially on the edge of the screen. Sometimes even if I just hold the phone in my hand and do not move my fingers at all, the phone still thinks I'm touching the screen.
- Sometimes the system is stuck while scrolling in a list view, especially in the "global" apps (e.g. twitter, youtube).
Overall the hardware of x40 is good, but the software is less good than I expect.
OnePlus 11 has a higher price, (￥4000 for x40 and ￥4400 for OP 11, both are 256GB models), but it's reasonable because OP 11 has 16 GB RAM (x40 has 12GB).
OP 11 also has a better camera and a longer battery life.
The only downside for OP 11 is the type-c port is running at USB 2.0, which limits it to 480 Mbit/s. x40 has a full-featured USB 3.2 port, including video outputs.
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Thanks for your opinion, what was your SOT with the x40? I'm having a note 20 ultra and my SOT is pretty bad on this phone I got only around 4hours and mostly I need to charge it second time during the end of the day. Was hoping the moto x40 would have better battery

jody2k said:
Thanks for your opinion, what was your SOT with the x40? I'm having a note 20 ultra and my SOT is pretty bad on this phone I got only around 4hours and mostly I need to charge it second time during the end of the day. Was hoping the moto x40 would have better battery
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I barely check the SOT...
Basically, I charge it every day and a half. The charging speed is amazing, it only took like 20 minutes for a full charge.

jody2k said:
Interesting thanks for your small review about the moto X40, I also ordered one from china.
Do you think we could just flash the EU rom from the edge 40 when it comes out? As both phones are identical.
I just wonder also what you mean with no possibility to lock BL on global Rom? Does it mean we can't unlock the bootloader of the Moto X40?
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Yea you can flash global Rom . There's already sellers on AliExpress shipping it with global Rom.
I mean that once you flash global Rom you can't lock the bootloader. You can only lock BL on official Rom.
You can easily unlock BL and flash ROMs but you can't lock back unless you're back on original Rom

jody2k said:
Hmm okay so that means you cant get official updates anymore if you unlock BL? Need to flash them manually? That's a bit dissapounting indeed but not impossible to do .
Are we sure phone will get bricked on the x40 if we try relock BL? Is this a common issue?
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100% sure you'll get bootloop if you relock on different Rom. And no, even if you buy from AliExpress a Chinese version with global Rom, you won't get OTA

jody2k said:
Thanks for your opinion, what was your SOT with the x40? I'm having a note 20 ultra and my SOT is pretty bad on this phone I got only around 4hours and mostly I need to charge it second time during the end of the day. Was hoping the moto x40 would have better battery
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Not amazing but not bad either considering the capacity of the battery. I was happy with the sot

Alright perfect thanks for the info guys !
Let's hope we'll get a XDA forum section soon for the moto X40 / edge 40

jody2k said:
Alright perfect thanks for the info guys !
Let's hope we'll get a XDA forum section soon for the moto X40 / edge 40
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There's a section on 4pda

I got my eye on x40 long time, before comming out..
I hope they are not stupid and lounch Global version.
But, i read the Motorola is Bad (to be elegant.) to updates and fixing bugs.
I see many people selling they Edge 30 Ultra., which is a very well equipped (hardware) phone. I am 10.000 % that is the reason.

One thing you are missing is that OnePlus now offers good software updates, whereas with Motorola you will be lucky to get quarterly updates that are buggy. OnePlus 11 also has far superior battery life and better rear cameras, with a more active development community.