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Is it possible for me as an American to get an international note 7? Is it worth it?

I'm on AT&T, but no contract so, correct me if I'm wrong, there isn't any reason to buy the note from AT&T. How, as an American, do I buy the international version? The only place I see it is on amazon, where they're charging an extra 100$ for.
Additionally is there any reason not to go with the international version?

Just wait for the N930U. Or shell out the extra $100 for the exynos variant.
I'm personally getting the N930V with Verizon and I'll flash the U firmware later like I did with my S7 edge. You could do the same, unless you're more interested in a potential bootloader unlock.

The 930U is the unlocked American version? When does that even come out? I don't care about the bootloader, I just would prefer the exynos version because it's usually a slight bit better, but I'm not dropping 980$ on it.

The U version of the S7 was still a snapdragon. If you want the exynos, you'll need to get the international version. It's not out so that's probably why it's still pricey. If you want to save some cash just wait for it to be cheaper on Swappa or eBay.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Galax...ack-Silver-Gold-Blue-/201637586849?nav=SEARCH
Only $30 more than carrier pricing on eBay.

cadcamaro said:
Just wait for the N930U. Or shell out the extra $100 for the exynos variant.
I'm personally getting the N930V with Verizon and I'll flash the U firmware later like I did with my S7 edge. You could do the same, unless you're more interested in a potential bootloader unlock.
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How did you flash the U version I thought Verizon has locked bootloaders and you couldn't make modifications ?
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It flashes through Odin. Since it's a stock firmware it flashed over just fine.
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Here's another store selling for even less. I'm not sure if they charge tax though, but either way with any carrier upgrade you're looking at the phone price and tax anyways.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1269581-REG/samsung_n930_black_galaxy_note_7_64gb.html

would it be worth it to spend 100$ more to buy the Exynos version? That's what I am wondering too...
are there any downside?
Isn't there more support for Exynos version and more battery saving?

If you're a Flashaholic like me it is definitely worth getting an unlocked Exynos version with its unlocked bootloader.
But the down side is lack of warranty and some of the frequencies that you're carrier uses may not be available on the International version
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LouK said:
If you're a Flashaholic like me it is definitely worth getting an unlocked Exynos version with its unlocked bootloader.
But the down side is lack of warranty and some of the frequencies that you're carrier uses may not be available on the International version
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Thanks! that's what I was thinking! and Exynos version seems to have better battery as well!
As for frequencies - it looks like they are good for most Canadian wireless companies.
Do we know for sure if Exynos N930F will come with an unlocked bootloader? (still waiting to order mine)
And what about warranty? Isn't Samsung supposed to honor warranty no matter where you buy it from on brand new phones just launched for a year since their launch date (it only makes sense and they used to back in Galaxy S2 days - from experience) *sigh*

galaxyluv said:
Thanks! that's what I was thinking! and Exynos version seems to have better battery as well!
As for frequencies - it looks like they are good for most Canadian wireless companies.
Do we know for sure if Exynos N930F will come with an unlocked bootloader? (still waiting to order mine)
And what about warranty? Isn't Samsung supposed to honor warranty no matter where you buy it from on brand new phones just launched for a year since their launch date (it only makes sense and they used to back in Galaxy S2 days - from experience) *sigh*
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Nope, from what im seeing they wont honor warranty in the US if you buy an international phone. Thats my major hurdle right now. I would really like to get some type of warranty. Even contacted Squaretrade and they said no. So will try upsie.

it's been a few years since I bought international, last phone was s3, what's the current state of international Samsung phones on att? do we still only get 2 compatible bands? I know theres a thing where you have to use the phone for 5 mins in that country with the country Sim card, anything else I should know about? speed and coverage still good? i been out of the game a bit so I'm playing catch up here.

LouK said:
If you're a Flashaholic like me it is definitely worth getting an unlocked Exynos version with its unlocked bootloader.
But the down side is lack of warranty and some of the frequencies that you're carrier uses may not be available on the International version
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I am in the same boat as you. Being able to flash my phone and play around with it, is my version of a work day stress reliever. Being an owner of a S7E and my old reliable N4, I cant wait for the N7 to be released. I will be replacing my N4 with it so I need to make sure that the Intl version will be unlocked. Will be following the early reports that will soon start trickling in as units arrive to their new owners.

I may be able to help I'm in Thailand.
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naruto.ninjakid said:
Nope, from what im seeing they wont honor warranty in the US if you buy an international phone. Thats my major hurdle right now. I would really like to get some type of warranty. Even contacted Squaretrade and they said no. So will try upsie.
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I bought the N7 from BHP (link you posted earlier) they have it available for pre-order and in the checkout they offered Square Trade for Warrenty - I also used Square Trade when I purchased the S7Edge (international Version) So I don't think it is giong to be a problem for you if you want to use Square Trade or any other major warrenty program like Upsie. Good Luck

Thanks Alot !
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I bought the N7 from BHP (link you posted earlier) they have it available for pre-order and in the checkout they offered Square Trade for Warranty - I also used Square Trade when I purchased the S7Edge (international Version) So I don't think it is going to be a problem for you if you want to use Square Trade or any other major warranty program like Upsie. Good Luck
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This is why I like this community. Thanks for coming back and updating. This was my biggest issue and you have now solved it. knowing I can get a warranty alleviates the what if's for me. I'm paranoid and always insure my devices even though i have never broken one. So I will be ordering from B&H as well. They seem very knowledgeable on unlocked phone issues from the FAQ and they don't charge tax in some states. All Im waiting for now is to see if Root is coming and development support. I'm on T-Mobile by the way so I will not get VoLTE and WiFi-calling but TEKHD said he will work on that in his ROM so I have some hope. Thanks again.

naruto.ninjakid said:
This is why I like this community. Thanks for coming back and updating. This was my biggest issue and you have now solved it. knowing I can get a warranty alleviates the what if's for me. I'm paranoid and always insure my devices even though i have never broken one. So I will be ordering from B&H as well. They seem very knowledgeable on unlocked phone issues from the FAQ and they don't charge tax in some states. All Im waiting for now is to see if Root is coming and development support. I'm on T-Mobile by the way so I will not get VoLTE and WiFi-calling but TEKHD said he will work on that in his ROM so I have some hope. Thanks again.
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I am on ATT and use the G935F right now on ATT and it works great - I don't knwo for sure if the N930 (note 7) will be unlocked but it seems like it probably will be - I htink the chances are high that the bootloader is unlocked and if that turns out to be true, root is not too far away - just need to get it in the hands of a few devs who do that sort of thing - and all should be good. Fingers Crossed...

mocsab said:
I bought the N7 from BHP (link you posted earlier) they have it available for pre-order and in the checkout they offered Square Trade for Warrenty - I also used Square Trade when I purchased the S7Edge (international Version) So I don't think it is giong to be a problem for you if you want to use Square Trade or any other major warrenty program like Upsie. Good Luck
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would you know if the square trade warranty would apply to people living in Canada as well?

cadcamaro said:
Just wait for the N930U. Or shell out the extra $100 for the exynos variant.
I'm personally getting the N930V with Verizon and I'll flash the U firmware later like I did with my S7 edge. You could do the same, unless you're more interested in a potential bootloader unlock.
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Interesting. What advantages does the U firmware have over the stock Verizon firmware, or are you just getting rid of all the Verizon bloat? Do you lose wifi calling and Samsung pay?

spinedoc said:
Interesting. What advantages does the U firmware have over the stock Verizon firmware, or are you just getting rid of all the Verizon bloat? Do you lose wifi calling and Samsung pay?
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You lose all bloatware and Verizon apps. It essentially turns the phone into a stock Samsung expensive.
You will lose any carrier extras like wifi calling VOLTE and Verizon's own vvm service. For some reason they only allow you to install their voicemail apps on their phones. Samsung pay still works though, and to get around the voicemail issue I just use Google voice as a forwarding number if I don't answer. It's honestly better than any carrier voicemail service I've used as there's no extra charges and you get notifications anywhere.

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You lose all bloatware and Verizon apps. It essentially turns the phone into a stock Samsung expensive.
You will lose any carrier extras like wifi calling VOLTE and Verizon's own vvm service. For some reason they only allow you to install their voicemail apps on their phones. Samsung pay still works though, and to get around the voicemail issue I just use Google voice as a forwarding number if I don't answer. It's honestly better than any carrier voicemail service I've used as there's no extra charges and you get notifications anywhere.
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Yeah I use Google voice as well. Great info thanks
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7T T-moble edition

Getting my 7t from tmo tomarrow I wondering if anyone has found away to unlock the bootloader for this one yet?

rob420p said:
Getting my 7t from tmo tomarrow I wondering if anyone has found away to unlock the bootloader for this one yet?
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Not yet but it is being worked on.

corey103 said:
Not yet but it is being worked on.
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Thanks for the info I know this is a newish device so it tales some time.it was this or the pixel and I've always been a oneplus fan seems to always have a lot of dev support and the value does not drop like other phones.

You can unlock the bootloader once you're network unlocked. And then you can root, and try the test version of twrp but I don't recommend any of this because as of right now we don't have a way to flash back the TMobile version if something goes wrong.

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You can unlock the bootloader once you're network unlocked. And then you can root, and try the test version of twrp but I don't recommend any of this because as of right now we don't have a way to flash back the TMobile version if something goes wrong.
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I'm trying to find away to get network unlocked

Oh, pay off your device, and if you bought it outright then just ask a T-Mobile rep to network unlock it. T-Mobile will no longer network unlock your device if it is not paid off in full as of a week ago. Anyone who says otherwise either got very incredibly lucky or they're going off someone else's story, or just like the 7 Pro they might have found someone here on xda who could network unlock their device for them. That is what I did I had someone unlock my 7 Pro at the time and when I got the 7T I asked them if they could unlock it for me they said yes.

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Oh, pay off your device, and if you bought it outright then just ask a T-Mobile rep to network unlock it. T-Mobile will no longer network unlock your device if it is not paid off in full as of a week ago. Anyone who says otherwise either got very incredibly lucky or they're going off someone else's story, or just like the 7 Pro they might have found someone here on xda who could network unlock their device for them. That is what I did I had someone unlock my 7 Pro at the time and when I got the 7T I asked them if they could unlock it for me they said yes.
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Nice well if u can ever give me a heads up on a way thanks.i didn't know they changed there policy.i will eventually pay this device off but I'll keep looking until then.with the holidays coming up paying off real fast isn't viable at this time..I did see last night they are testing a tool to do it so I might get lucky

So I will be completely honest with you it all comes down to being patient at this point, there are developers working very hard trying to figure out how to convert the T-Mobile to the international version, if you dig around some of the OnePlus threads from any of the other OnePlus phones maybe you'll find someone who has performed Network unlocks for others and maybe they will be willing to unlock your 7T is the best advice I can give you.

Unlocked S20 Ultra

Debating to get the AT&T or Unlocked version.
Previously if you get the unlocked versions of the S series you don't get VVM or VoLTE access unless you do some workaround but that only worked for about a month for me on a S9+.
Currently have the AT&T S10+ and I don't remember having to pay the any additional fees last year.
If I get the AT&T version, the $600 credit is only applied if I do the AT&T payment plan AND a $30 upgrade fee is added. This would be the safe bet to ensure all carrier services are included, but also don't like that I'd be forced to pay an additional $30 when I can just pay the full asking price*.
*If i choose to pay the full price without the payment plan I lose about $300 in credit for my S10+
If I get the unlocked version, I might not have access to VVM or VoLTE. I can deal without the VVM, since I did that for a year when I had the unlocked S9+, and want to know if VoLTE/Vo5G would work out-of-the-box or if only Vo5G will work(because there is going to be more standardized access/bands) but not VoLTE since I believe access to LTE was more limited from unlocked phones?

Emperor_Jesse said:
Debating to get the AT&T or Unlocked version.
Previously if you get the unlocked versions of the S series you don't get VVM or VoLTE access unless you do some workaround but that only worked for about a month for me on a S9+.
Currently have the AT&T S10+ and I don't remember having to pay the any additional fees last year.
If I get the AT&T version, the $600 credit is only applied if I do the AT&T payment plan AND a $30 upgrade fee is added. This would be the safe bet to ensure all carrier services are included, but also don't like that I'd be forced to pay an additional $30 when I can just pay the full asking price*.
*If i choose to pay the full price without the payment plan I lose about $300 in credit for my S10+
If I get the unlocked version, I might not have access to VVM or VoLTE. I can deal without the VVM, since I did that for a year when I had the unlocked S9+, and want to know if VoLTE/Vo5G would work out-of-the-box or if only Vo5G will work(because there is going to be more standardized access/bands) but not VoLTE since I believe access to LTE was more limited from unlocked phones?
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Get the unlocked if it gives you more $ back. You could just flash the carrier FW, which will activate the extra features.

VZTech said:
Get the unlocked if it gives you more $ back. You could just flash the carrier FW, which will activate the extra features.
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Flashing the carrier FW on the S9+ only worked for about a month then I had to register an IMEI from a AT&T branded phone (used a G4) to use VoLTE but that only worked for another month.
The VVM app never got to work either. There's an voicemail app from AT&T on the Play Store but it's for something else(which doesn't make sense since TMobile's VVM works [from what I've read online for the S9s & worked on an unlocked PIxel 2 I had] from the Play Store).
There were a few forums of other folks going through the same issue in 2018(?) but I want to believe this was fixed by Samsung/AT&T.

Emperor_Jesse said:
Flashing the carrier FW on the S9+ only worked for about a month then I had to register a IMEI from a AT&T branded phone (used a G4) to use VoLTE but that only worked for another month.
The VVM app didn't work either.
There were a few forums of other folks going through the same issue in 2018(?) but I want to believe this was fixed by Samsung/AT&T.
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Oh, damn. ATT is a PITA.

Hm. I hope this isn’t the case with Ultra. From reading about it, it seemed the best bet was to get the Unlocked as it has access to all bands? But maybe that’s not right?
In the same situation as you OP. Went for Unlocked instead of the ATT version. I did it for resale value down the road. If it ends up not being able to use certain LTE that’d be highly disappointing

I only use Verizon. Should I get the unlocked or Verizon version of the ultra?

felloffthetruck said:
I only use Verizon. Should I get the unlocked or Verizon version of the ultra?
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I went through Verizon because in the end I usually keep the phone after paying it off. Also after 2 years they usually only are worth a couple hundred trade in value.
I still have a Note 4, Note 8, S7, 2 S5's. I'm trading in an S8 Plus for $200

I have AT&T. I like the service, I like the plan I have (not available any more), and I make good use of wifi calling. I get it on my unlocked Pixel but the unlocked Samsung phones don't. That's been the case for a few years - I've been paying close attention. I ordered the S20 Ultra AT&T brand and gave up the $600 Pixel trade in , took the $350 option instead. I didn't want a new line or a new plan and it wasn't clear that I could finance through AT&T and keep my plan. It is just as well for me, I will keep my P4XL. That will solve my dilemma of which phone to have. I'll have both. I want the new S20 but I'll miss my Pixel as soon as it is gone.

I got the unlocked versions of the Note 9 and now pre-ordered unlocked S20 Ultras. TMO VVM, Wifi Calling, and VoLTE has worked on my unlocked devices, not sure about AT&T.

steely123 said:
I got the unlocked versions of the Note 9 and now pre-ordered unlocked S20 Ultras. TMO VVM, Wifi Calling, and VoLTE has worked on my unlocked devices, not sure about AT&T.
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Thanks for this. I've been wondering about that. I wasn't sure if the T-Mobile features would work with the unlocked version. I went with the T-Mobile version, but I'll probably change my order and get the unlocked version now.

teamfresno said:
Thanks for this. I've been wondering about that. I wasn't sure if the T-Mobile features would work with the unlocked version. I went with the T-Mobile version, but I'll probably change my order and get the unlocked version now.
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That`s what I did, I have used oneplus 6 and the pixels on Tmobile and wifi calling and everything worked fine, I cancelled my tmobile s20 ultra 512gb and ordered the unlocked s20 ultra 512gb this morning, took me like 50 tries since they were low on stock and then i was able to place a order, but the delivery the ship date moved from feb 5th to feb 13th, so i`ll have to wait another week for it to ship.

2003vstrom said:
That`s what I did, I have used oneplus 6 and the pixels on Tmobile and wifi calling and everything worked fine, I cancelled my tmobile s20 ultra 512gb and ordered the unlocked s20 ultra 512gb this morning, took me like 50 tries since they were low on stock and then i was able to place a order, but the delivery the ship date moved from feb 5th to feb 13th, so i`ll have to wait another week for it to ship.
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I'm going to give them a call. If I have to cancel my order, then I'll probably get stuck with the T-Mobile version. Since it was my first purchase on Samsung, I got the additional 5% off. I won't be able to use the referral code again. I wish I would of known before I ordered.

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Oh, damn. ATT is a PITA.
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I'll probably wait til the last possible day to order if I DO end up getting it.
Going to miss the headphone jack.
I'll also waiting to see what LG releases but I don't have high hopes. :fingers-crossed:

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I'm going to give them a call. If I have to cancel my order, then I'll probably get stuck with the T-Mobile version. Since it was my first purchase on Samsung, I got the additional 5% off. I won't be able to use the referral code again. I wish I would of known before I ordered.
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yeah they will probably tell you that the order will need to be cancelled, and reordered......unfortunately.

2003vstrom said:
yeah they will probably tell you that the order will need to be cancelled, and reordered......unfortunately.
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That's exactly what happened. The good news is, they told me that the referral code should activate again within 3 to 5 business days if I want to use it again for the 5% off. Now, I just gotta decide if I want to cancel and wait or not.

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That's exactly what happened. The good news is, they told me that the referral code should activate again within 3 to 5 business days if I want to use it again for the 5% off. Now, I just gotta decide if I want to cancel and wait or not.
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Usually you can flash the unlocked software (U1) to the carrier version (U) since it's the same hardware.

Just get unlocked and flash att firmware. I do it every year.
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johnwayne27 said:
Just get unlocked and flash att firmware. I do it every year.
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Unless the IMEI is in AT&T's database it usually doesn't get WiFi calling and such

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Usually you can flash the unlocked software (U1) to the carrier version (U) since it's the same hardware.
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Learned something new today. I didn't know you were able to do that. I thought you could only flash on the unlock version to a carrier one and not vice versa. Thanks! I just ended up cancelling and re-ordering it.

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Learned something new today. I didn't know you were able to do that. I thought you could only flash on the unlock version to a carrier one and not vice versa. Thanks! I just ended up cancelling and re-ordering it.
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No problem, the hardware is all the same so you can flash between the two. At least you could on the S10.

Question Smokin deal but...

So I can get the Pixel 6 Pro for $8 per MO for 3 years if I trade in my OP 8t+ with AT&T. What are the chances of being able to root? If not, is it really worth it? Tell it like it is please.

guessing you didnt read a single thread here. it had root and aosp rom day 1

Izy said:
guessing you didnt read a single thread here. it had root and aosp rom day 1
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Apparently not enuff. Lol. I saw Root on the non carrier version but assumed that Carrier skinned phones were impossible to unlock boot loader. I guess I've spent too many years on Samsung bloat to know any better.

bbiigg said:
Apparently not enuff. Lol. I saw Root on the non carrier version but assumed that Carrier skinned phones were impossible to unlock boot loader. I guess I've spent too many years on Samsung bloat to know any better.
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It depends on your carrier, whether he allows an unlocked bootloader.

Looks like OP is on AT&T. P6P has its own quirks but aren't you happy with OP8T?

Anyone correct me if I'm wrong, butt if memory serves me correctly, at least a couple with the AT&T variant were able to root by using the same "trick"as those with T-Mobile variants, which was to contact customer support, tell them you're going out of the country and wanted to be able to SIM-unlock so they could use the phone outside the US. Once those variants were SIM unlocked, they were able to enable OEM unlocking and unlock the bootloader (and root).
There are several threads in this section about the subject but I believe T-Mobile customers have been the most outspoken, so you might have to dig to find the folks who specially l specifically did it with AT&T variants, not to be confused with the folks who are using the factory unlocked variant on AT&T.

Some G8 thinq questions

I am going to buy LG G820TM. I have a couple of questions about this.
I plan to use the phone in Ukraine. What may not work, what works in the US?
How to know if it is unlocked?
Is it difficult to unlock it?
What are the disadvantages if it is not unlocked, does it fully work not in the USA?
Is it T-Mobile?
How much worse is the fps and slows down the phone from android 12? Which is better for Android 11 or 12 performance?
should I buy it?

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I am going to buy LG G820TM. I have a couple of questions about this.
I plan to use the phone in Ukraine. What may not work, what works in the US?
How to know if it is unlocked?
Is it difficult to unlock it?
What are the disadvantages if it is not unlocked, does it fully work not in the USA?
Is it T-Mobile?
How much worse is the fps and slows down the phone from android 12? Which is better for Android 11 or 12 performance?
should I buy it?
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To know if it is unlocked is simple; put in a sim card from any carrier but t-mobile, if it connects, it's unlocked, if it doesn't, it's locked.
To unlock it you would have to use a remote service and pay $. Oddly, the one I used is in the country you plan to use it.
The G8 is capable of doing VoLTE and VoWifi, but your carrier has to support them also, and the rom will have to have the needed configuration for that carrier.
Sorry don't know anything about the fps re 12 vs 11.
Should you buy it? I'd suggest no. I think you'd be better off with a phone like a Sammy, which will definitely have a rom specific for that area, which means it would have all the specific requirements for the local carriers. Additionally, it would be pretty easy to get a rom on a Sammy (patched Odin) if the phone you buy isn't for your area. Getting a rom on a G8 isn't anywhere near as easy.
Good luck with it, and all the best to the people of Ukraine! Cheers

Thanks a lot! You helped me a lot. But my budget allows me to buy only these phones, which are quite powerful.
I have already noticed to buy LG G8 G820TM but suddenly I noticed one detail...
I read that there is a temporary unlock on t-mobile, which can end 30 days after purchase (some people write that even after half a year)
Will there be such problems with the phone on Verizon?
There are no temporary unlocks like this on Verizon?
Which is better then to take, Verizon or T-Mobile?
(there are no other options in my market)
I really need your help in this matter..