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I'm thinkig Unrevoked team. Should I do Unrevoked3 or forever?
Please any ideas? Custom recoveries or ROMs?
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Unreevoked 3 and forever are two totally different things. Foreverr is now obsolete with the release of 3.2.1. I wouldn't use unrevoked because then you have no idea what root is and how to use it. That's my two cents.
I will be using unrevoked 321 tomorrow to root my new evo. My first evo I rooted using simple root.
I disagree with dkdude36. I did it the hard way when the g1 dream first got rooted. The process is academically enlightening but a waste of time really.
Go for the easy root (unrevoked) unless u have a lot of time to spend learning.
I disagree with jdbiggles...
If you understand how to use a terminal (ADB) and know how to type without error, "the long way" doesn't take more than an hour to obtain root access to your evo!
My personal opinion is to get root with ADB. The things you learn will help you in the future.
Root with unrevoked, as it gives you one step nand unlock and everything. However, if you are not willing to learn ADB and the such, do not root your phone at all.
If this is the first time you have ever rooted an android or HTC device I would recommend doing the "long way", not because it is some stupid right of passage, or that I think you are a dumb n00b if you don't, but because I think that it will help you a lot in the future if you ever run into problems. You don't want to be learning about all this stuff with a bricked phone.
My first experience with rooting / custom roms / adb was with a G1, and then with a Nexus one. This time around, I simply used unrevoked, but that is because I already understand how the process works, and just want to get it done. It is kinda like math class, they make you write it out with pencil and paper, and then only way later can you use a calculator, because if you never did it long form, you would have no idea if the calculator was right or wrong, or any clue of where you made a wrong calculation.
If you run into any problems now or in the future with an android device, you will actually be able to at least sort/solve the simple problems, before needing to post here and wait for an answer, and hope someone posts step by step instructions.
Below are questions I posed in another thread. The root question is apropos to this thread. Can someone please provide me with some direction? I don't mind doing the "manual" way.
Thanks.
snovvman said:
1) Is there now a way to use pattern lock only? The Evo still shows the drag down HTC screen lock even when pattern lock is enabled. I have searched all over, have yet to find a solution.
I don't want to run a custom ROM. Will a root give me some ability to disable the drag-down lock?
I also have a Nexus 1. When I enabled the pattern, the regular screen lock is turned off. That is the behavior I'm looking for with the Evo.
2) Root: I want to root to enable all apps to SD, copy files, enable "reboot", etc. I do not care to run a custom ROM. I don't mind having to re-root after an update. I do not want to wipe my phone. I WANT to maintain the ability to receive future OTA updates.
On the N1 platform, there is an easy root method to allow for this. I get Superuser, can run root apps, but still receive OTA and no custom ROM. I'm looking for the same here.
For the Evo, which method whould support this?
I would very much appreciate any help.
Cheers.
Edit: I know what a generic NAND memory is. In this case, why is NAND protection and why does it need to be disabled? What is "S-On/S-Off". I looked through the guides/FAQ, but haven't been able to find anything. Thanks again.
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I have rooted my G1 before the long way. I understand how it works, just wanted to see if there were better teams to get it from? But I think this clear, unrevoked forever.3. 2.1 doesn't work anymore?
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Just came across this article while researching how to root my new HTC Desire (sweet phone!) ... is this still true and should I be concerned?
Also - has anyone got thoughts on the 'unrevoked' 'one-click-root'? - is it as safe as doing a more 'manual' method?
Well i have heard of several apps still storing passwords as plain text, so might still be a problem. This is also the case on unrooted phones though. The real problem here regarding root is, that apps, which you have given root access, can access those files which is normally available only to the actual app. So it is more a question of only allowing root to trusted apps, which you should always do anyways, as anything run with full access have the possibility to do major damage.
And regarding unrevoked, it should be as safe as rooting using pauls method, which only supports the old hboot versions by the way. There will always be a risk to it, but if you do everything right, it is very easy. The difference in the rooting methods is more the way they hack the recovery in order to let you flash unsigned or test-signed zip files. So just go with the latest unrevoked and make sure to install the drivers the right way first and you should be fine
Brilliant, thanks so much for the informative background, I will be rooting!
Read the OP too by Cory which has made me less worried - http://forum.androidcentral.com/hacking/35470-aware-clear-text-passwords-database-files.html
No problem I hope it helped you understanding.
1 click root application like z4root or gingerbreak for gingerbread phone like our us any future solution for this?
Revolutionary is like a three-click root process. It takes about ten minutes. I know it can get easier, but it doesn't really need to. Unless you need a way to do it without a computer, you shouldn't have a reason to not be able to do it through Revolutionary. If you can't figure it out, you shouldn't root to begin with.
I was personally hoping for a longer, more in-depth root method using adb that will either keep the current hboot or downgrade to the eng bootloader.
Tools like z4root and such keep people that have very little knowledge with no desire to learn rooting their devices just because. The pool of root users is dumb enough already, no need to dumb it down even more.
But to answer your question - no, I haven't heard of anything like that in the works. Doesn't mean it isn't, but I haven't heard of anything.
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I'm still rather new to Android, and I was wondering- why do people root their phone exactly? If I root my phone, will it run slower? Also, can I run the stock ROM my phone ships with if I root it?
unity04 said:
I'm still rather new to Android, and I was wondering- why do people root their phone exactly? If I root my phone, will it run slower? Also, can I run the stock ROM my phone ships with if I root it?
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We root, because we must... It doesn't make the phone slower. It does the opposite (With the right kernel, that is )
Rooting ONLY means, that you have the right, to accss the ROM (Read-only memory) where the system files are saved...
Which means, yes. You can have root access, on a stock-ROM phone
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unity04 said:
I'm still rather new to Android, and I was wondering- why do people root their phone exactly? If I root my phone, will it run slower? Also, can I run the stock ROM my phone ships with if I root it?
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Rooting just gives you more control over your phone, the ability to easily freeze/delete system apps, flash alternate kernels, etc... You can run your stock ROM whilst rooted, it won't slow you down.
Rooting also opens the door to being able to flash (i.e. install) alternate, custom ROMs among other things.
A basic rooted stock ROM is a good place to start out, and learn your way around things before you decide, or not, to start flashing custom kernels, ROMs, etc... OR you can happily cruise along on a fully stock phone.
Just a quick summary; there's lots more specific info available on this site, and the intarwebz to give you more detail if needed.
I'm fairly new, so hopefully I get this right. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
My guess is that you're coming from iPhone if you're asking if it will slow it down since jailbreaking tended to do that. It won't slow it down unless you install apps and mods that run in the background and stuff.
All rooting is, is allowing programs to run as the root user (I *think* I'm right here). This means that they can access parts of the system that are unavailable to be modified on unrooted ROMs. This means you can get things that tweak system level functionality. It's very similar to jailbreaking an iPhone except apps in the Play Store aren't prohibited from having root functionality baked in.
Yes you can root the stock ROM.
Hope that answers it for you, and I hope I got it right. It's tough trying to figure some of this stuff out. Nothing out there really explains why things are done, but only HOW they're done. Bit of a nuisance trying to get into this in that regard.
myrdog said:
I'm fairly new, so hopefully I get this right. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
My guess is that you're coming from iPhone if you're asking if it will slow it down since jailbreaking tended to do that. It won't slow it down unless you install apps and mods that run in the background and stuff.
All rooting is, is allowing programs to run as the root user (I *think* I'm right here). This means that they can access parts of the system that are unavailable to be modified on unrooted ROMs. This means you can get things that tweak system level functionality. It's very similar to jailbreaking an iPhone except apps in the Play Store aren't prohibited from having root functionality baked in.
Yes you can root the stock ROM.
Hope that answers it for you, and I hope I got it right. It's tough trying to figure some of this stuff out. Nothing out there really explains why things are done, but only HOW they're done. Bit of a nuisance trying to get into this in that regard.
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You just said, what I said ((and the other bloke, after me) xD
Yes, you answered it. But in a way, that no n00b would understand, unless he wrote it himself (You) lol
There are many reasons to root, my favorites are that I can access the root or the phone, meaning I can replace the rooms, kernels to my liking. I can overclock or underclock the phone. One more than I like to do it use ad blocker so I don't need to deal with the stupid ads that are in free apps
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We root because we like to have good phones .
And the benefits like custom colors, kernels, ROMs, and all that is nice.
Nexus S (GSM i9020a)
GummyNex (9.0)
Air Kernel (3.45)
OC 1000/200 (Lionheart)
Live OC (100 -Noop)
v6 Supercharged
To get the most out of my phone. Especially in the g1 days, you pretty much had to root because of the phones limitations
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You root to gain admin access to your phone. You'd never use a computer without admin access, same on a phone. You can tweak and change anything you can imagine with root access.
And no it doesn't make it slower, actually can make it faster.
Root access doesn't do anything in itself. It just gives you administrator access to all of the system files.
Once you have that access, you can start tweaking.
Root is only required for deep-level back-up programs, some file explorers, and rom tweakers such as Rom Manager.
Day to day stuff, Android is pretty open to anything.
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Rooting allows you to release the full potential of your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21328733
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Its not just system access, its a way of life!
Hello All,
I have two questions:
1) I want to temp root my device as I need to get some files that are found within the system files (to be more specific, whatsapp files), and I don't want to use 3rd party applications. How can I achieve this without using SunShine as I won't be able to pay?
2) I want an application (Firewall) to allow/deny application access to internet, mainly on 3G .. I've used NetGuard but it is rubbish! all applications are able to access the internet normally.
So, which firewall application do you recommend to download that works fine on a non-rooted, stock Marshmallow M8?
Android Version: 6.0
HTC Sense Version: 7.0
Software Number: 6.12.401.4
Build Number: 6.12.401.4
You could try NoRoot Firewall, though it does work by creating a local VPN, so it will only work as long as you don't require any OTHER VPNs. This should work just fine, though at a possible performance penalty, since the routing is handled in userland software.
If you are willing to root your device, you can use the internal iptables in the kernel, which is much, much faster. I personally use AFWall+ to configure it, but most "Android Firewalls" that require root are basically front-ends to iptables.
Gokii said:
For most of android users ,they need an easy and safe tool to root their android phone,
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I strongly disagree. If a user can't handle the typical (and fairly easy) root process of unlocking the bootloader, flashing custom recovery TWRP, and flashing SuperSU; then they have no business having root privileges.
A great many things can go wrong with root. And when that happens, you better know how to revert those changes, or return to stock. That means (at a minimum) knowing how to use an RUU and fastboot. And may even mean knowing adb, how to restore stock TWRP backups, and a whole lot more.
I wasn't familiar with Anyrooter before. Looking at the website, they want $40 US to root your phone. For something that can be done easily yourself for free. Plus, the website has no phone number, and no physical contact address. Looks really sketchy. Borders on a scam to me, or at least a shameless money grab. Will they even give you your money back if the root fails? Doesn't say on their website, that I can find.
And is Anyrooter going to help you restore your device, if/when something goes wrong? I highly doubt it.
"Fast" and "easy" (and expensive) methods will never replace proper research and learning, and using the proper tools.
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Gokii said:
,the software ensure that your phone will be protected
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That is just plain false. As I've already mentioned, a great many things can go wrong messing with root privileges. You better know how to revert the changes. And that means at a minimum, knowing how to use RUU (if one exists for your M8 version), but may also mean how to use TWRP (unlocked bootloader required) and how to restore stock TWRP backups.
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sikas said:
I want to temp root my device
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If you want temp root, kingroot (which is free) may be your best bet. But from what I've seen, results have been mixed. Do your research. Kingroot may also fail, and cause the system to be flagged as "Modified". So you better know how to revert those changes. At a minimum, know how to RUU; and whether and RUU exists for your M8 version, and OS number.
Gokii said:
To my mind ,i concerns about phone device will be damage or data be lost, i just want to use an easy and safe way to root my phone device, i think AnyRooter help me to solve this problem,
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So if the root doesn't work, or some change done under root privileges causes the phone to stop booting to OS, what you are going to do then??? If that isn't a concern to you, then it should be.
"Safe" is subjective. Of course, this AnyRooter service would like you to think its "safe", so they can take your $40. But you should be asking them, what their recovery plan is, if the root attempt results in no OS. Or if they will refund your money, if they can't root the phone.
And "easy" is not always "best". In fact, it seldom is.
Feel free to throw away your money if you want. But this device is rooted rather easily for free, by anyone that can follow instructions and willing to spend a little time gaining some knowledge. Knowledge that is crucial when things go wrong (and they will, eventually, if you play with these phones enough).
$40 to root? hahahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
And people complain about Sunshine being $25
xunholyx said:
$40 to root? hahahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
And people complain about Sunshine being $25
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What's worse is that Sunshine leaves you S-off/bootloader unlocked for $25. These folks are charging $40 for root only.