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I've just driven over 400 miles...
I was using my Desire with Co Pilot to navigate me from Scotland to Bristol...
The phone was in my phone holder which is placed in the cigarette lighter so the phone can apparently be charged at the same time as being held...
The phone showed that it was "charging" and yet it still ran out of power....
That's right.. the CHARGING phone RAN OUT of power and switched off!!!!!!! TWICE!!!!!!!!
Has anyone else experienced this? I can't imagine that this phone uses more power than the charge being applied?!
I used my Desire as GPS (with Copilot) the phone had 70% - 80% battery and after sometime it actually charged to 100%. Maybe there is some malfunction in your car charger or just not making a good contact in cigarette lighter plug. Check if charger's led lights all the time.
car chargers trickle charge so they prob couldn't keep up with the demands of CoPilot on the phone
EddyOS said:
car chargers trickle charge so they prob couldn't keep up with the demands of CoPilot on the phone
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You need to ensure that the car charger is rated at 1AMP at 5V otherwise it will as stated only trickle charge. I've heard this story on other devices. Do you have a genuine HTC charger?
Also if the device gets to warm, it will stop charging in order to avoid damage.
Thanks for the reply guys!
No, it's not a geniune one... I tried 2 different ones, both the universal holder/chargers from Mobile Fun..
So far they've both been fantastic until this little phone came along...!
Connections have been fine, which is the strange thing..
It did get hot though, so you may be right Ardsar... Any way of keeping it cooled?
Buy OEM...
http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=...ient=firefox-a&price2=15.00&show=dd&scoring=p
Always best as you know that it'll work...
i have had the same problem plugging it into my computer and using it at the same time killed it.
charmz2k2 said:
I've just driven over 400 miles...
I was using my Desire with Co Pilot to navigate me from Scotland to Bristol...
The phone was in my phone holder which is placed in the cigarette lighter so the phone can apparently be charged at the same time as being held...
The phone showed that it was "charging" and yet it still ran out of power....
That's right.. the CHARGING phone RAN OUT of power and switched off!!!!!!! TWICE!!!!!!!!
Has anyone else experienced this? I can't imagine that this phone uses more power than the charge being applied?!
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http: //forum.xda-developers. com/showpost.php?p=6075788&postcount=11
http: //forum.xda-developers .com/showthread.php?t= 658338 (delete the spaces)
Same as what others say as well. Your car charger doesn't supply enough amps to keep up.
Ofcourse it gets really hot, navigation is one of the most heavy thing you can do on the phone. And while doing that you charge it at the same time in perhaps a warm car as well.
But, get a 1A charger, not a 500mah like most are.
Same goes for hooking it on the computer, the usb port might not give enough power so the phone can drain itself when doing real heavy stuff.
Plugging something in does not guarantee it will work, you have to know what you plug in
casualt said:
i have had the same problem plugging it into my computer and using it at the same time killed it.
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Of course you will - USB ports can only supply upto 500mA if you have nothing else connected to the USB HOst.
Same story for me.
I got a 550 mA car charger, and battery wasn't charging but slowly discharging (about 5-10% per hour) with navi+HDSPA.
Thought, well, 550 mA is not enough, let's see the plug charger from Desire box: that's 1000 mA. Let's go get a 1A car charger.
Got this www . p4c.philips. com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?ctn=DLM2206/10&slg=it&scy=IT (saw off spaces) which is rated 5V-1A.
Plugged in, started navigating+HDSPA for satellite layer, and still wasn't charging but discharging at a rate of about 4% per hour.
I'm really annoyed 'bout this, I spent 20+15€ for both chargers, I do not want to spend another 25€ for OEM charger....it's unbelivable that I'd finish to buy 60€ of chargers to find out one that do not let battery deplete.
As a final test, I'll try a different cable from original HTC sync cable included in the box...let's see.
EddyOS said:
Buy OEM...
http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=...ient=firefox-a&price2=15.00&show=dd&scoring=p
Always best as you know that it'll work...
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Can anyone who has used this confirm it will manage to charge fully even while the Desire is running a satnav program?
Why don't you plug in your normal charger and start running a navigation demo or something.
Not sure if that uses as much energy, but I think it most probably will. The original charger outputs 1A.
If the socket charger does the job, but not the car charger (read: you can also run a navigation demo in the car using that charger) your car charger might not be supplying enough energy as it should.
Or you can use a multimeter and see how many amps it outputs. But the pins are a bit smallish
Tried with another cable (not the original sync one) with just power wires connected, same story: I'll try with the original wall plug charger and see if it does the same or not, as both the Philips charger and the original HTC wall charger are rated 5V-1A
It does get very hot. I used my gps for 9 hours in a row and at the end it got too hot or something and the phone just rebooted.
Still It wasn't because the battery had run out of juice it was still good.
Also it was streaming music over bluetooth at the same time.
Used Nav for 1 hour this morning on the way to work while charging from the official HTC car charger. Phone now sat on my desk, battery reporting 100%.
The phone did get pretty hot though...
FlatEric83 said:
Same story for me.
I got a 550 mA car charger, and battery wasn't charging but slowly discharging (about 5-10% per hour) with navi+HDSPA.
Thought, well, 550 mA is not enough, let's see the plug charger from Desire box: that's 1000 mA. Let's go get a 1A car charger.
Got this www . p4c.philips. com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?ctn=DLM2206/10&slg=it&scy=IT (saw off spaces) which is rated 5V-1A.
Plugged in, started navigating+HDSPA for satellite layer, and still wasn't charging but discharging at a rate of about 4% per hour.
I'm really annoyed 'bout this, I spent 20+15€ for both chargers, I do not want to spend another 25€ for OEM charger....it's unbelivable that I'd finish to buy 60€ of chargers to find out one that do not let battery deplete.
As a final test, I'll try a different cable from original HTC sync cable included in the box...let's see.
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FYI, not all chargers are equal. I believe that HTC devices need a combination of pins to be connected on the USB port to "tell" the phone that it's connected to a real charger and not a USB port, otherwise the phone will only pull 0.5A, regardless of the output capacity of the charger.
This always used to apply to older HTC phones, and I can't see why they'd change it, so it's quite possible that your 1A Philips charger will not charge the same as my 1A HTC charger...
If in doubt, OEM
daern said:
FYI, not all chargers are equal. I believe that HTC devices need a combination of pins to be connected on the USB port to "tell" the phone that it's connected to a real charger and not a USB port, otherwise the phone will only pull 0.5A, regardless of the output capacity of the charger.
This always used to apply to older HTC phones, and I can't see why they'd change it, so it's quite possible that your 1A Philips charger will not charge the same as my 1A HTC charger...
If in doubt, OEM
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That's what I thought, as I imagined that: I hoped that another cable I have, which has USB on one side and a 2 poles connector on the other side on which you connect various connectors, would be recognized by Desire as being a pure power cable. I wasn't lucky.
Since OEM is out for 25€, I tried with non OEM before to save some, but till now I buyed 35€ worth chargers, I'd have to stick with OEM
But now I'm really reluctant on getting OEM, since I do not want to end with spending 60€ in order to have my phone charged while navigating....I'll try to tinker some, and if I'll find out how, I'll report
I had the same problem by using a 1.5A car charger which is working great with iPhone.
As for the PC USB charge... are you sure it can't output 1A to charge the device??
JapanLover said:
I had the same problem by using a 1.5A car charger which is working great with iPhone.
As for the PC USB charge... are you sure it can't output 1A to charge the device??
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USB2 specs do say that ports shall provide max 500 mA, ehnce motherboards have this limit.
BTW, here's a discussion I've found about the "cable" problem
forum.xda-developers. com/archive/index.php/t-643808.html
For HD2 (which is actually the model to which HTC CC C200 is dedicated)
I'll try to tinker with some cheap cable and see if this works.
Hey guys, just wondering if anyone else had a similar problem..
Everytime I connect a car charger, it charges for a second then disconnects itself, the charger is still plugged in, and the engine is running. The red light on the charger is on too. I'm not saying this is a ROM problem or anything at all, but its the second charger I've had that does this, I don't suppose anybody knows a fix if it happens on other devices too?
Is this an official HTC charger?
I know it sounds silly, but most cheap unbranded car chargers cause all sorts of problems. It's usually that they don't short the two data pins, so that the phone thinks it's plugged into a PC. It will then only charge at half rate (500mA) in line with usb standards.
Also, the charger may not even be able to handle a 500mA output, which would suggest why your phones sees the charger, measures the output, sees it as insufficient, and stops the charging. Is there a sticker on the charger starting current output? They can still be misleading though.
An official HTC car charger (just like the mains wall charger) will have it's data pins sorted out. The phone will detect this, and switch to mains charging mode, and draw the full 1000mA. You may have noticed that your phone will charge twice as fast off a mains wall charger than it will from being plugged into a computers usb port.
Trust me I've thrown out about 3 of the cheap ones! Even charging at 500mA, your phone will still not be getting enough juice to do google maps navigation with GPS.
Hope I've helped.
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It's a cheap eBay one, but I've bought from the company in the past...when I had an iPhone And it worked perfectly. The first charger had a label saying it's max was 500mA. That lasted about 20 minutes..Need it so much more recently because of my battery drain problem http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996938.
I had no idea HTC sold official ones (seems I lack common sense), will give them a go, at least then I'll get a decent warranty if it doesn't work...
jimster4389 said:
It's a cheap eBay one, but I've bought from the company in the past...when I had an iPhone And it worked perfectly. The first charger had a label saying it's max was 500mA. That lasted about 20 minutes..Need it so much more recently because of my battery drain problem http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996938.
I had no idea HTC sold official ones (seems I lack common sense), will give them a go, at least then I'll get a decent warranty if it doesn't work...
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If its a USB charger try a different USB lead. When my Desire arrived brand new the lead would only work properly when I bent the lead round the back of the phone otherwise it would start a charge (LED would light up red, phone says charging) but the battery % would never get any higher. Bought a new official HTC lead and problem solved.
Hi everyone,
I have a problem with my original wall charger that came with the phone. There seems to be something wrong between the cable and the connector you are plugging into the phone. I need to have the cable in a specific position for the phone to be able to recharge.
The question is, is there any better charger than the original samsung one? I could probably get it replaced as it still is in warranty, but I don't like how slow it recharges the phone. If I am running a 3D game the phone is slowly DISCHARGING even when plugged in to a wall charger.
I noticed the charger has only 500-700 mA output. I had an older htc charger which had 1000 mA output. Would a charger like this recharge my phone faster? I have seen some posts about non-samsung chargers not being able to recharge the battery fast as there is some kind of protection built into the phone.
I would also consider buying a wireless charger if it was available for a reasonable price.
Are you all using the stock chargers?
Thanks in advance for any help.
you can read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721677&highlight=charging
Just to make sure it is the charger's fault, does the phone charge normally if connected to a computer, from the USB port?
Thanks for the link.
Yes, phone charges and transfers data from USB without any problem, so it should be fault on the charger.
Reading through that thread, I guess there is no point in buying a more powerful charger.
as i said there, i use a nokia 1200mAh charger and the charging time is more than 2 hours, so we have to deal with it. The thing you should care of is the quality of the charger to avoid the touchscreen known problems
Imho you don`t need better (more powerfull) charger because of the hardware limitations. What you should do is to try any other microUSB charger just to see if that solves your problem. So if any of your friends of family have other samsung or nokia etc. phone, thats charging with microUSB, plug it into your phone to see if it solves your problem. You will know what to do next if it does
al3x_xct said:
as i said there, i use a nokia 1200mAh charger and the charging time is more than 2 hours, so we have to deal with it. The thing you should care of is the quality of the charger to avoid the touchscreen known problems
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how do I check the quality of the charger?
Are there any risks to using a non-Samsung battery charger?
Tried an HTC charger the other day and phone wouldn't charge ("Battery Low" message starts blinking), so I pulled the plug on it quickly in case I might damage the battery.
Thanks.
junkeeroo said:
Are there any risks to using a non-Samsung battery charger?
Tried an HTC charger the other day and phone wouldn't charge ("Battery Low" message starts blinking), so I pulled the plug on it quickly in case I might damage the battery.
Thanks.
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I would recommend quality ac adapters. Also, look for ones pushing at least 1A, if not 2.1A. The regular 450mAh chargers just won't cut it with the Note 2.
More than you want to know about chargers in one nice blog!
I've used a T-Mobile branded wall charger with a newegg micro usb cable and it seems to work fine. I've also used a usb car charger with the same newegg cable and no issues.
hopefully not, since the one that came form the tmobile note ii is horrible, literally falls out with a simple touch of the phone
Hi guys
I recently bought a poco f3 256g 8g ram, it's a great phone but one thing I have noticed is that when you try to fast charge it, it works then stops with the charging icon saying its charging even when you pull the charging cable out. I checked it with accu battery and it show that its not charging with minus amp age going in. You then turn the phone off and the charging icon resets. It charges fine when you don't use a fast charger and use a non fast charge brick. I don't have the original f3 charger but have tried my mate 20 Pro fast charge brick as well as my old s8 plus charger and new cables it only charges on a non fast charger. Any ideas anyone?
make sure the fast charger is 33W
Hi thanks for the reply are these phones really that sensitive to the the wattage, the charger I had is a 40w Huawei fast charger and the other a Samsung 18w both start to charge then stop and you cannot charge it with any charger until you turn the phone off. I have tried to get a official poco 33w charger but they are not easy to find.
i have used my 33W charger and another charger 18W fast charger and everything looks fine. if your phone is still under warranty, go to your nearest mi service center.
Hi I got it secondhand so I can't I'm afraid I'm sort of wondering if its a protocol thing as it charges fine with a non fast charger I might flash it in time and see if its a software issue, I can live without the fast charge but it would be nice to have the capability.
fishboy25 said:
Hi thanks for the reply are these phones really that sensitive to the the wattage, the charger I had is a 40w Huawei fast charger and the other a Samsung 18w both start to charge then stop and you cannot charge it with any charger until you turn the phone off. I have tried to get a official poco 33w charger but they are not easy to find.
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They are ... You need to look at what's written on the charger , not the big W numbers.
Original charger supplies 33W by using 11V and 3Amps.
Written like this on the charger : 11V=3A 33W
Nothing else will work , I for example use 6A cable and it does not charge well - the amps are enough as you can see but the cable most likely can't handle 11V...
Open google , search for authorised xiaomi repair center and buy charging brick/cable from them. Sometimes they too just pick random charger so you'll have to check when you receive it that both the cable is rated at 3A and the brick supplies 33W like written above
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They are ... You need to look at what's written on the charger , not the big W numbers.
Original charger supplies 33W by using 11V and 3Amps.
Written like this on the charger : 11V=3A 33W
Nothing else will work , I for example use 6A cable and it does not charge well - the amps are enough as you can see but the cable most likely can't handle 11V...
Open google , search for authorised xiaomi repair center and buy charging brick/cable from them. Sometimes they too just pick random charger so you'll have to check when you receive it that both the cable is rated at 3A and the brick supplies 33W like written above
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Hi thank you for the reply I will endeavour to try and find a legit charger and cable many thanks again.
fishboy25 said:
Hi thank you for the reply I will endeavour to try and find a legit charger and cable many thanks again.
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Yw. My reply above mainly covers how to get 33W charging , but I have no idea why it's refusing to charge?
Oddly enough I have the same exact issue happen like bi monthly... Pretty rare but usually happens when phone is REALLY hot ( mine is modified to allow higher temp ) + the charging port is fked and I'm using non compatible cable lol.
Is possible that every once in a while it all lines up so that the phone doesn't recognize charging brick due to bad port situation + it being rly hot sends it into some sort of charging lockdown?
Either way mine is very rare.
I suggest you first get the cable/brick those are like 20/30$ + I bet any repair store would ship it to you. Then if it still doesn't work you can start troubleshooting software/port/motherboard see where the issue is...
Rstment ^m^ said:
Yw. My reply above mainly covers how to get 33W charging , but I have no idea why it's refusing to charge?
Oddly enough I have the same exact issue happen like bi monthly... Pretty rare but usually happens when phone is REALLY hot ( mine is modified to allow higher temp ) + the charging port is fked and I'm using non compatible cable lol.
Is possible that every once in a while it all lines up so that the phone doesn't recognize charging brick due to bad port situation + it being rly hot sends it into some sort of charging lockdown?
Either way mine is very rare.
I suggest you first get the cable/brick those are like 20/30$ + I bet any repair store would ship it to you. Then if it still doesn't work you can start troubleshooting software/port/motherboard see where the issue is...
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Hi thanks for the reply I have found a poco charger on ebay and a lead not too sure about the lead but I think its suitable. I'm not sure what's going on with it but I will let you guys know if it works. I did read somewhere that someone had a similar issue and that they disconnected the battery and after that didn't have a problem, I think I will try the charger first.
Hi guys got the charger connected it up works then goes into minus amps and stops charging until you turn it off again. So I'm wondering if its worth flashing it? Really frustrating
fishboy25 said:
Hi guys
I recently bought a poco f3 256g 8g ram, it's a great phone but one thing I have noticed is that when you try to fast charge it, it works then stops with the charging icon saying its charging even when you pull the charging cable out. I checked it with accu battery and it show that its not charging with minus amp age going in. You then turn the phone off and the charging icon resets. It charges fine when you don't use a fast charger and use a non fast charge brick. I don't have the original f3 charger but have tried my mate 20 Pro fast charge brick as well as my old s8 plus charger and new cables it only charges on a non fast charger. Any ideas anyone?
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our phone is still under warranty, go to your nearest mi service center.
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Hi guys just a quick update I connected it up the other day and watched the ampage and voltage go into minus again frustrated I just left it and came back 10 minute later and it charged. It turns out with the original charger it goes into minus amps and voltage but if you leave it it charges and ampage goes up with the voltage.if you disconnect the charger while its in minus amps and voltage it says its still on charge and you have to reset or turn the phone off before you can attempt to charge it again. But if just connected with the original charger without disconnecting it while in minus volt and amps it will charge and the volts and ampage starts charging. I have come to the conclusion its a glitch or bug in the charging protocol for the fast charging or software..