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I currently have the Pixel Xl and its a nice phone but the 3T comes in at half the price and I don't mind a 1080p screen. Those using the regular oneplus 3 what are your thoughts?
well yeah. depend on your needs tho, not gonna talk about specs. average user wise, op3 is better due to support and general customization. in my country, google phone are non-existence, you can't get it fixed at shop, can't find any temper glass and ect on local webstore. generally, if you can go back to having mono speaker and somewhat buggy and unsatisfying software, go for op3. if you want the ultimate software from google, stereo speaker, less third party support, then pick pixel.
with the op3t included in the comparison however, op3t is ultimately better since it comes with nougat. as for pricing, up to your country.
disclaimer: i own op3, but played with abroad friend's pixel.
Pixel XL is definitely better as long as price is not taken into account. When it is OP3T for the win. It doesn't come with Nougat by the way, as far as I read.
The most noticeable thing I'd that the Pixel XL camera is going to be better (mainly because of SW, not HW)
You'll also see faster OS updates with the pixel but the OnePlus 3 will have more customization
Standby battery drain should be similar and screen on time should be a bit better on the OnePlus 3T since it has a 1080p screen instead of a QHD screen
OnePlus 3 is probably the device where you get the most quality for the lower price. I have mine for almost three weeks and I am quite happy with how it performs.
Also another thing that is great about OnePlus 3 is their community, it is somewhat friendly and the higher ranked members are quite helpful. Additionally they also have a big modding community on their own which is how I got to know XDA as somethings shared there come from here.
Regarding Google Pixel XL, I never had one of those in my hands (or any smartphone produced by Google) so I abstain of forming opinions about it.
The OP3 is a better device.
So what exactly is better? I went to bestbuy to check the Pixel and the build quality is a lot better than the Pixel. Custom software is added benefit as well. There is so much that you can do with the OP3 fingerprint sensor. I could not live without one! The FP placement on the Pixel isn't convenient at all. I don't see the Nougat as a benefit since the Marshmallow is good enough for me.
The Pixel has a better camera and Nougat. That's it. That's what you pay for. Determine if its worth it or not.
The OP3 is definitely better device. I love my phone!
If you want faster OS updates, a miles better camera than OP3, and pure stock android experience with dedicated google's under the hood tweaks, i would suggest to go with Pixel XL. If price is a deciding factor, go for OP 3T as it can give you theoratically same experience and fluidity + good camera and average times software updates.
Why would you even want to consider this if you already have pixel xl?
I was considering 2 phones: Pixel 2 xl or OP5T
The price tag for Pixel 2 is really giving me pause.
The lack of project treble and supposed poor customer service is making me rethink OP5T.
So judging on value and developer support, the original Pixel might be the way to go.
Is there anything I should know about this device from people who have owned it for a year or more?
I'm especially cautious when it comes to battery degradation. I'm sure I'd still be using my Nexus 6p (happily) if the battery wasn't garbage. Switched to S7 Edge in July and HATE it. Bootloader locked and root only if you use a laggy engineering kernel. I can't wait to ditch it but having a hard time deciding which device to buy.
Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance guys!
I actually switched from an S7 edge (exynos) to a Pixel XL last year and I can say that I don't regret it.
To resume, the Pixel XL is still a great phone. It still has a solide performance (never had an issue when it comes to that), the camera is still better than most of the cameras of 2018 smartphones and its constantly getting support and updates from Google (until fall 2018).
However, when it comes to battery life I noticed an important degradation. I was getting more than 8h of SOT in about 1d and 1/2 when the phone was new, now I'm having a hard time to reach 6h on stock firmware (you can always fix this with root).
One other downside compared to the S7 edge is the heating. The temperature of my my S7 edge never exceeded 38° C even when playing graphic hungry games in summer, with the Pixel XL it can go much higher than that which causes fast battery drain when gaming.
I hope this can help you
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I actually switched from an S7 edge (exynos) to a Pixel XL last year and I can say that I don't regret it.
To resume, the Pixel XL is still a great phone. It still has a solide performance (never had an issue when it comes to that), the camera is still better than most of the cameras of 2018 smartphones and its constantly getting support and updates from Google (until fall 2018).
However, when it comes to battery life I noticed an important degradation. I was getting more than 8h of SOT in about 1d and 1/2 when the phone was new, now I'm having a hard time to reach 6h on stock firmware (you can always fix this with root).
One other downside compared to the S7 edge is the heating. The temperature of my my S7 edge never exceeded 38° C even when playing graphic hungry games in summer, with the Pixel XL it can go much higher than that which causes fast battery drain when gaming.
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It does help. Thanks!
As for battery degradation, you can run an app called accubattery. It needs like 24 hrs or so to get a proper reading but will measure your battery's total capacity.
My Nexus 6p was at 50% after only 1 year. I was 2 days out of warranty and Huawei refused to do anything.
This is why Huawei Mate 9 is not on my shortlist of phones to buy.
Thanks again for the info!
If you can't get the Pixel 2 then definitely go for the Pixel 2016. It's holding up very good for me too. Great camera still, fantastic smoothness still, and it will be supported for next six months too. I will be using mine for another year at least.
Just those infamous hardware problems you pray that you never face, like that microphone issue.
I switch phones regularly, and had an S8+, then an iPhone X, and now a Pixel XL (that I picked up in like new condition for less than $300 on eBay...). And while I would prefer the taller, more modern display of the Pixel 2, this was a great bargain. I agree with a prior reply, that it's comforting to receive all of the latest updates. Battery life seems as good as any other Android I've had recently. I also agree that it's still an excellent camera for its age. Live wallpaper was a pleasant surprise. If you're a case fan, there are more brand name cases available for the Pixel 2 XL...
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If you can't get the Pixel 2 then definitely go for the Pixel 2016. It's holding up very good for me too. Great camera still, fantastic smoothness still, and it will be supported for next six months too. I will be using mine for another year at least.
Just those infamous hardware problems you pray that you never face, like that microphone issue.
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We should still get security patches til Oct 2019 though still. Hoping they keep major updates rolling too with treble and all would be a waste to only support this device for 2 years. Hopefully with treble though we can still get unofficial updates even if it just aosp for a good while and there's always lineage and other custom ROMs.
I just picked up new Pixel XL for £200 to replace my OP3. It's great. Love it as much as I did my Nexus 6p back then it released.
Anyone here going for the OnePlus 6?
If it supported Verizon...I would no doubt. But, no such luck this time around either.
No! Going to keep my badboy Pixel XL 2!!
Hell no! I've got enough data mining in my life already! ?
Battery 3300 is very bad for a 6.28 inch screen.
Knowing the release of op 6, I bought pixel 2 xl very recently (slightly higher price paid than avengers edition of op6). OP camera software often so bad that we end up waiting and using gcam mods.
Camera, Battery life and display are better in pixel 2 xl.
Oneplus forum is a war zone no courtesy shown by many. Ofcourse we could use xda for it though.
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Battery 3300 is very bad for a 6.28 inch screen.
Knowing the release of op 6, I bought pixel 2 xl very recently (slightly higher price paid than avengers edition of op6). OP camera software often so bad that we end up waiting and using gcam mods.
Camera, Battery life and display are better in pixel 2 xl.
Oneplus forum is a war zone no courtesy shown by many. Ofcourse we could use xda for it though.
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3300 is fine and will actually yield great battery life because
1. The screen is still 1080p
2. SD 845 will be more efficient
I'm most likely getting one, but definitely keeping my 2 XL. The camera, as well as my current setup (Stock+Root+Flash Kernel+Xposed w/ GravityBox) is absolutely perfect for me.
Not to mention the amazing camera on the 2 XL! I'm sure the 6's camera will be great, but I doubt it will beat the 2 XL.
So all-in-all, I'll have both! If the camera performs at least close to the 2 XL, and when development picks up, then I'd probably consider selling my 2 XL down the road and using the 6 as my daily driver - at least until the Pixel 3 comes out lol
NO!
No. OnePlus is an awful company.
No, im not going back to oneplus .
From my personal experience: anyone coming from a OP to a Pixel will not buy another OP.
Yes, it has great specs, but try to profile the GPU and trace the dropped frames on every single screen and then compare to a Pixel. Having the latest SOC and a 20MP+16MP camera. 8GB of Ram... all that means little when their software is an absolute mess and has basically 0 polish.
This might be an odd sentence but here's the bottom line:
You're paying 550€ for a phone that has the specs of a 850€ phone but getting the performance of a 550€ phone. That's why it doesn't cost 850€: you're not getting the same experience you get on a Pixel and it's not even remotely close.
Question is why would i?
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3300 is fine and will actually yield great battery life because
1. The screen is still 1080p
2. SD 845 will be more efficient
I'm most likely getting one, but definitely keeping my 2 XL. The camera, as well as my current setup (Stock+Root+Flash Kernel+Xposed w/ GravityBox) is absolutely perfect for me.
Not to mention the amazing camera on the 2 XL! I'm sure the 6's camera will be great, but I doubt it will beat the 2 XL.
So all-in-all, I'll have both! If the camera performs at least close to the 2 XL, and when development picks up, then I'd probably consider selling my 2 XL down the road and using the 6 as my daily driver - at least until the Pixel 3 comes out lol
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Nice.
I was the owner of OP 5T before as daily driver.
I was very less options left at that time coming from iphone to android. I have more restrictions, I needed phone with work profile (so rooting has to be given up). I badly needed a dual aim for daily driver. S8+ fingerprint placement I hated. So chose OP5T. Camera software was very bad the default one. Tired of exploring multiple gcam modes etc... The famous oil painting effect on pics has not been resolved for months on 5T when I owned.
My current set up is S9+ as daily driver (work phone) just because of dual sim support. Keeping pixel 2 XL as secondary one (most of my personal use occasional work email check) Neither Pixel nor iphone can become my primary until dual sim versions released though with my restrictions.
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Nice.
I was the owner of OP 5T before as daily driver.
I was very less options left at that time coming from iphone to android. I have more restrictions, I needed phone with work profile (so rooting has to be given up). I badly needed a dual aim for daily driver. S8+ fingerprint placement I hated. So chose OP5T. Camera software was very bad the default one. Tired of exploring multiple gcam modes etc... The famous oil painting effect on pics has not been resolved for months on 5T when I owned.
My current set up is S9+ as daily driver (work phone) just because of dual sim support. Keeping pixel 2 XL as secondary one (most of my personal use occasional work email check) Neither Pixel nor iphone can become my primary until dual sim versions released though with my restrictions.
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Yeah I didn't like my 5T when I had it. Sold it very quickly. My 5 on the other hand was strangely better, even though it came before the 5T.
I also was not happy about the camera issues like you mentioned + the vibration motor felt very cheap.
I like how much custom development is available for those devices, which is a big reason why I'm most likely going to buy it and just switch between my 2 XL and that whenever I feel like it.
I've never had Samsungs though but if it's treating you well, why not continue using it
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Yes, it has great specs, but try to profile the GPU and trace the dropped frames on every single screen and then compare to a Pixel. Having the latest SOC and a 20MP+16MP camera. 8GB of Ram... all that means little when their software is an absolute mess and has basically 0 polish.
You're paying 550€ for a phone that has the specs of a 850€ phone but getting the performance of a 550€ phone. That's why it doesn't cost 850€: you're not getting the same experience you get on a Pixel and it's not even remotely close.
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I said this on a portal discussion regarding the release of the 5T, and it bears repeating here. For a company with "Never Settle" as its slogan, OnePlus does an awful lot of "settling", i.e. compromising, on the most important part [the display] of a smartphone. The display was why the OP5T never factored into my buying choices. The OP6 isn't any better, as it's still not quad HD like on flagship devices. So for yet another year OnePlus will simply be a pretender to the throne.
If OnePlus really wants to play with the big boys, they need to stop compromising and go all out. Make a product that will truly knock people's socks off.
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Yeah I didn't like my 5T when I had it. Sold it very quickly. My 5 on the other hand was strangely better, even though it came before the 5T.
I also was not happy about the camera issues like you mentioned + the vibration motor felt very cheap.
I like how much custom development is available for those devices, which is a big reason why I'm most likely going to buy it and just switch between my 2 XL and that whenever I feel like it.
I've never had Samsungs though but if it's treating you well, why not continue using it
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Due to no dual sim support, I had to live with samsung. S9+ has better camera, beauty and display though battery life is worse compare to pixel 2 xl even with full hd+ we all know it is due to bloatware services/apps.
Heard rumours that Apple is also considering dual sim versions for next iPhone, hope google do consider dual sim versions.
By the way I did try huawei honor v10 and 20 pro. Unfortunately work profile issues and bad support made me avoid them completely.
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No. OnePlus is an awful company.
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and liars. I got OP5 and returned, because camera was terrible, but they talked about "clearer photos". They lied in performance test.....for me they bad reputation company
FrankBullitt said:
From my personal experience: anyone coming from a OP to a Pixel will not buy another OP.
Yes, it has great specs, but try to profile the GPU and trace the dropped frames on every single screen and then compare to a Pixel. Having the latest SOC and a 20MP+16MP camera. 8GB of Ram... all that means little when their software is an absolute mess and has basically 0 polish.
This might be an odd sentence but here's the bottom line:
You're paying 550€ for a phone that has the specs of a 850€ phone but getting the performance of a 550€ phone. That's why it doesn't cost 850€: you're not getting the same experience you get on a Pixel and it's not even remotely close.
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Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I said this on a portal discussion regarding the release of the 5T, and it bears repeating here. For a company with "Never Settle" as its slogan, OnePlus does an awful lot of "settling", i.e. compromising, on the most important part [the display] of a smartphone. The display was why the OP5T never factored into my buying choices. The OP6 isn't any better, as it's still not quad HD like on flagship devices. So for yet another year OnePlus will simply be a pretender to the throne.
If OnePlus really wants to play with the big boys, they need to stop compromising and go all out. Make a product that will truly knock people's socks off.
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Frank: The OnePlus 5T was the fastest phone on the market until the S9+ came out and gave it a run for its money. Then the 6 came out and it is now the fastest/best performing device on the market. And OxygenOS is amazing, clean, and adds useful features (like face unlock that's actually good). Plus OnePlus added in over 200 optimizations to make it even better. Look it up. There are tons of videos to prove it's faster and smoother. Your comment has no grounds.
Strephon: How can you say anything about the display of a phone when defending the Pixel 2 XL? It literally had a huge scandal, and still isn't fixed. The normal resolution gives it an edge in battery life, and overall performance. The 27" monitor I'm typing this on is 1080p and at 2 feet away is no issue. You're telling me a 6 inch phone with that resolution is a problem? Plus the Amoled OnePlus uses is much better quality compared to the Pixel's lackluster LG panel. I guess I shouldn't expect anything less from the Pixel forum, but come on, lose the blinders, people.
Had 3 devices from OP so far (OPO, OP5 and OP5T) and still use them but not going to get another one anymore. Why? Because Pixel devices is what suits me the best... top hardware with top software.
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Strephon: How can you say anything about the display of a phone when defending the Pixel 2 XL? It literally had a huge scandal, and still isn't fixed. The normal resolution gives it an edge in battery life, and overall performance. The 27" monitor I'm typing this on is 1080p and at 2 feet away is no issue. You're telling me a 6 inch phone with that resolution is a problem? Plus the Amoled OnePlus uses is much better quality compared to the Pixel's lackluster LG panel. I guess I shouldn't expect anything less from the Pixel forum, but come on, lose the blinders, people.
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The quoted post above is sponsored by OnePlus, where "Never Settle" is an oxymoron.
You mentioned us P2XL owners having blinders on when nothing could be further from the truth. While we may have unwanted press over non-issues such as blue shifting and color profiles, at least our devices were assembled with the screens pointed in the right direction, unlike the OP5T.
Ignoring the fact that people rarely view their devices at the extreme angles required for the blue shift to be noticeable, the phenomenon is inherent in ALL AMOLED displays. My Galaxy S4 has it. My Nexus 6 has it. My P2XL has it. Of the three the S4, having an early AMOLED screen, has blue shift to a greater degree than either my Nexus 6 or my P2XL.
The only reason blue shift and the color profile were even mentioned is to drive page views. As for the color profile non-issue, I use the original color profile and not the boosted or saturated modes. No problems here, and in fact I enjoy the color accuracy.
OnePlus having a FHD screen is not a problem if you're not used to anything else. But a flagship device has a QHD display, period. What OnePlus has done here is what they have always done: compromise. When they stop, perhaps then we'll take notice.
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Frank: The OnePlus 5T was the fastest phone on the market until the S9+ came out and gave it a run for its money. Then the 6 came out and it is now the fastest/best performing device on the market. And OxygenOS is amazing, clean, and adds useful features (like face unlock that's actually good). Plus OnePlus added in over 200 optimizations to make it even better. Look it up. There are tons of videos to prove it's faster and smoother. Your comment has no grounds.
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Yes, my comments have no ground.
https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/co...soon_discontinuing_development_i_wont/dyi9wh0
It's not just the camera; everything on the Pixel 2 is way, way more polished than anything that OnePlus (and I on my own) could ever make.
As much as I hate to admit it, my custom ROMs can't touch the stock ROM on the Pixel 2 in terms of polish and performance. Lately I've been doing more scientific performance assessments on Android (for the sake of research with a professor at my university), instead of just using the phone and thinking, "Seems good to me!," and the results I pulled off the Pixel 2 absolutely crush the results I pulled from stock LineageOS 15.1 on the 3T. It is very difficult to get frame drops while playing with the Pixel 2, whereas I instantly recorded frame drops galore on the 3T. This has been a bit of a wakeup call to me in that I need to reevaluate my ideology and follow a more scientific strategy in optimizing Android on a phone (i.e., using the dozens of test suites Google has built for Android). The bugs that bother users the most are the ones that tend to happen a small percentage of the time (like random reboots), and the Pixel 2 has clearly been optimized to the point where most of those rare bugs are nonexistent (e.g., frames are rarely dropped).
When I ran one of Google's UI performance test apps on the Pixel 2 against my LineageOS 14.1 ROM on the 3T, my ROM dropped frames nonstop (according to this tool) while the Pixel 2 dropped zero frames...
Deep down, I'm a kernel developer and that's where I excel. I'd rather stick to what I know (and enjoy) with kernel hacking and leave the pain of polishing userspace to Google's army of engineers.
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You were saying something about oneplus, weren't you?
I owned oneplus phones, I owned Nexus, I own a Pixel2XL. Tell me about daily performance again, please.
Just as the title says I'm thinking about trading in my LG G7 for a pixel 3a xl. Any thoughts, suggestions?
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Just as the title says I'm thinking about trading in my LG G7 for a pixel 3a xl. Any thoughts, suggestions?
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If you've had a Pixel before and like the experience it's more of the same, if not, reviews often mention the surprisingly satisfying ownership experience and I agree with that assessment. I watched a video before the flagship 3s came out last fall, it was done by the dude in the Unbox Therapy videos. In it he was at an event in Vegas and up in what looked like a rather nice suite with a group of other YouTubers liked MKB. The premise was pretty simple, he walked around and asked everyone what phone they had in their pockets right then The Pix 2 would end up tied with iPhones fire in the most pocket honors. That's rather telling when the Pix had been out for the better part of a year and these are guys who have tried everything.
Realistically the buy-in is fairly cheap with all the day one deals and it's certainly an inexpensive way to scratch that new tech itch assuming you're falling prey to one.
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Just as the title says I'm thinking about trading in my LG G7 for a pixel 3a xl. Any thoughts, suggestions?
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Some more info would help. Like, what do you like / hate about the LG G7. Do you prefer feature filled custom UI / skins. Whats your thoughts, if any on stock vanilla android? Tell us what features you like most about the G7 and you can't go without. that will give us a better idea
The only 2 things I see about the G7 that is better is the SD845 chipset (it's faster than the Pixel 3a's SD670) and memory card expansion. Which the 3a lacks.
If neither of those 2 matter to you, and having a pure Android experience with timely updates does. Then go for the 3a
I just upgraded from the LG G7 and have had the Pixel 3a in hand for a few days. Performance wise there is not a huge difference. Do miss the wireless charging aspect, but I can live without it. Software experience and battery life are stellar not to mention the camera which blows the G7 out of the water. Truly amazed at how good the camera is with literally every picture I take. If you want the camera and software updates just do it. I do not think you will be disappointed. O and the speaker on the phone is quite good. Not as much bass as the G7 , but the stereo sounds is an improvement from the single down firing speaker on the G7.
yeah I came from S10 plus and my S10 plus had issues with waking up in my pocket and etc. so I off it and bought the Pixel 3A XL and I hadn't bought a google phone since the Nexus 6, and I`m really pleased with the 3a XL, since I didn`t buy the Pixel 3 XL, the camera is awesome on the Pixel 3A XL, so I want the other features that are missing, IP68 wireless charging, 845 SD, QHD display, front stereo speakers, but for the 479.00 price its definitely worth it, I will maybe it keep it as back up phone , I have already ordered my Pixel 3 XL from BHPHOTO and when I bought the 3A XL I got a 100.00 gift card from BHPHOTO for anything in there store so I got the PIXEL 3 XL 128gb for 679.99 plus tax, also I was pleasantly surprised with ATT service, right out of the box the 3A XL wifi and VoLte worked out the box.
I'm in the process of getting a new phone in the coming days. To keep it simple here, i'm debating 3XL or S10(e). I'm not going to wait long enough for the Pixel 4 to come out. OnePlus 7 Pro is sadly not available through my carrier.
So, is the 3XL still a good deal when Price is identical to the S10(e)? I've had Samsung in the past and Nexus's before that. I now the Samsung OS and am fine with it. I live in Europe, so getting AOSP for the S10 should be an option. Camera is important but not priority one. An overall fluid/fast system is more important to me. I also don't care to much for specs. Solid Batterylife is on my list too. I'm not a poweruser, so 3-4 hours SOT should be enough for a day or two. Oh, and i don't have a Problem with either notch or holepunch.
With that, would you get the 3XL for guaranteed Android Q and faster Updates, or the S10 for better specs/Display and being overall newer?
I had the chance of one plus, Samsung S10, Huawei p30pro. Chose the pixel for the updates and camera. No regrets whatsoever. Camera stunning, updates each month, 5-6 hours screen time, great build, wireless charging and IP rating, smooth as performance and a very underrated screen. Coming from the LG G7, which I loved, this phone is a level up in everyway.
@domsch1988 Why not the 3a XL? Much better value especially if you're not a power user. Only thing it's not waterproof and has no wireless charging, slightly lower processor but a great phone.
go for the OnePlus. I've played with it (friend bought it) and its solid. I have a 3XL but if I can do it over, i'd either stick with the 2XL or upgrade to the OnePlus.
I still think the Pixel 3 XL is the Android phone to get, until the 4 XL in Oct. Best camera, smooth OS, timely updates every month, no bloatware.
What other phone is out there? Galaxy S10? LOL I'll pass. LG G8 or V50 ? No thanks. OnePlus, yeah they are are good, but, not the best camera, and some features missing
I would choose Oneplus. I'm so disappointed with the Pixel 3 XL. The fingerprint sensor sucks. I had the 1+ 5T and it was far better than this. It's my last Pixel.
I'll change my 3 XL for a 5 XL, that's how much I love it.
for me pixel 3 xl is the phone to buy because its a nice design lovely to hold timely updates. The only thing am not happy about is the ram and how its managed i would have liked to see an extra 2 gigs here.
Traded my S10 Plus for the Pixel 3 XL.
Great decision in my view. Running Android Q beta 4, no need to carry DSLR with me (S10 camera was awful).
Only downside is the RAM and it's management. Would choose it over again in a heartbeat
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@domsch1988 Why not the 3a XL? Much better value especially if you're not a power user. Only thing it's not waterproof and has no wireless charging, slightly lower processor but a great phone.
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Since i'm getting it on Contract, they are equal in price (basically 1€ without any change in what the plan will cost me). The 3a will be getting guaranteed Updates for 6 Months longer. Other than that, i feel the 3XL is far better.
If i'd pay for it up front, i agree 100%. I'm currently rocking a Redmin Note 5 Pro. So i'm confident, that the Hardware in the 3aXL would be well enough. I just don't have the value benefit when both phones cost the same in my case.
To everyone else: I really appreciate the input. Seems the Pixel is still the Phone to get. Will be my first time getting a phone for the camera. But with my wife and me expecting a child, i'm sure that's a great decision
Despite what I have read of other's experiences with this phone, in my case it is the absolute best phone I have ever had. Coming from a long line of Samsung Note phones and Galaxy phones, it just can't compare. I highly recommend it. Updates are timely and without delay on the first Monday of every month. It is very responsive and the camera is the best in the industry. I have learned with this phone that specs mean nothing if the software is not optimized. Samsung phone shave great specs but software (IMO) is not optimized. I got tired of Samsung's locked bootloader, no root on phones and batteries that after 6 months did not last more than a few hours. For me, this is the ONLY phone worth the money today.
Easy. Get the 3xl or even 3aXL and save some money. Either will be fantastic.
Other than Google not being able to fix the sound (changes from clear to bassy/muffled and back randomly) this phone is awesome.
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Traded my S10 Plus for the Pixel 3 XL.
Great decision in my view. Running Android Q beta 4, no need to carry DSLR with me (S10 camera was awful).
Only downside is the RAM and it's management. Would choose it over again in a heartbeat
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This. I tried the S9+ then the S10+. Couldn't wait to get back to the Pixel.
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go for the OnePlus. I've played with it (friend bought it) and its solid. I have a 3XL but if I can do it over, i'd either stick with the 2XL or upgrade to the OnePlus.
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The OnePlus is no upgrade IMO. I just spent a week testing both the OnePlus 7 Pro and the P3 XL and the bottom line is that the two phones are a perfect example of specs not telling the whole story. The OnePlus is nice but in the end it went back and I kept the P3 XL. Main issues with the OnePlus was the distortion caused by the curved edges (why did they do that? Loss of functionality for nothing in return... if i wanted a fashion statement I'd buy an iPhone.) I don't get why everyone gets hysterical over a notch that hardly ever really intrudes on the P3 XL while ignoring the distortion of the O7P that is annoying 100% of the time. Also in spite of all the reviews gushing over the 90 fps display it really was a big... meh. If you look closely it is somewhat smoother than the 60 fps flagships but these are already so good that the slight improvement is just not that big a deal and I think I'd probably have ended up just leaving the 90 fps option off to get the 10% or so battery life back. But the OP7 display was brighter than the P3 XL, I'll give it that.
The other problem on the OP7P was the camera. It's come a long way and is certainly competitive with the big boys but I found the P3's image to be superior most of the time. If you aren't picky about the camera then the P7 should be fine. Last is the general feel of the phone and the pure Google Pixel OS (and all the little nonessential but nice goodies) made the P3 just feel more comfortable and day-to-day usable to me. Also FWIW the P3 supports Verizon WiFi calling and the OP7 does not (or at least I couldn't find any setting that would make it work.) Something that won't matter for some but will for others so just mentioning it. Also if you think you may ever want to use Google Fi (for the international coverage if nothing else) then the Pixel is the better choice, also a factor that may or may not matter depending on the user.
I'm not hating on the OnePlus, it's a great phone and would probably be my phone if it weren't for the P3 XL. But an 'upgrade'? Nah.
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At this point in the year I would honestly wait things out to see what happens with the Pixel 4. I love the Pixel 3xl and wouldn't buy anything else at this point. The first phone that I enjoy using and the camera is awesome! With the Pixel 4 it can only get better, even if the numbers are still not up with the S10 it wouldn't matter to me. Fast, no bloatware and the ability to take it anywhere and use it anywhere is what I enjoy.
S10e would be a downgrade in my opinion.
I actually ordered the Snapdragon S10e and quickly realised I miss that higher quality screen of the Pixel 3 XL. As this was the Snapdragon S10e I had gcam installed but it was very buggy and just nothing like the original.
The pixel 3 XL has a wider screen too, makes viewing content a lot better, the Samsung phones are narrow so it almost seems like you lose out on content, for me it was noticeably enough to keep this phone!