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Just finished the Sony Ericsson Xperia ARC induction wireless charging mod
http://www.pbase.com/xperia_mods/xperia_arc_induction_charging_mod
Pls look at this reference video to get an idea what you are going to get and what it takes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ga4N_Ih9GE
Parts you will need for this mod:
* Palm Pre back cover and Touchstone dock (8-15$ on eBay)
* Self-adhesive copper foil
* thin wire
* small star and maybe Phillips screwdriver
* thin soldering iron
* solder
* 2 ohm SMD (1/8 or 1/4w) resistor is needed to balance on peak. Will not work without it.
Guide to open the phone(you don't need to open it all the way as on that video! Just few first steps): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae-WQkNh8mE
MIND two restrictions:
1) this induction wireless charging will not work from PC or Laptop USB plugs (at least for me) looks like cradle needs a bit higher voltage then 5v. As USB is usually below 5V (~4.8). It can be due to the presence of resistor.
2) it won't work through almost any case / jacket / cover if you put it on you ARC. As it becomes too thick to let induction and magnets alignment work. for this you need to put induction coil in your case as I did for RAY http://www.pbase.com/xperia_mods/xperia_ray_induction_charging_mod
Q: Will it interfere with any phone functions and radio modules (GSM, WCDMA, WiFi, BT, GPS ...)
A: NO all works as good as before.
Q:Is this really worth opening your phone, and probably damaging it?
A: It is up to you. For ARC I'd say it is worth opening as you need to open only one back cover, no modules disconnect, connect etc. If you feel experience in opening the small electronics and soldering go ahead!
Q: Also, what about the charging times? Is it as slow as USB charge, or almost as fast as wall outlets?
A: Charging time is almost as fast as wall outlets. Charging current is around 350 mAmps
Q: Can I use it in the car
A: Sure!
Q: where do we have to put the resistor?
A: just in line of + or - like in this sample
http://www.pbase.com/xperia_mods/image/141117444
Q: Will my Micro USB port work after mod?
A: Yes it will work as good as before and you can charge through it as before
Q: the cover is closed complete after install?
A: Yes, you will not notice a difference from the outside
I HOLD NO RESPOSIBILITY IF YOU DAMAGE YOUR PHONE OR YOURSELF DURING THE PROCEDURE!
This mod might void your warranty! Though I don’t think a SE repair man will be able to find traces of this mod on first sight if removed cleanly.
Very interesting, but where do we have to put the CMS resistor?
butchy93 said:
Very interesting, but where do we have to put the CMS resistor?
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just in line of + or - like in this sample from RAY
http://www.pbase.com/xperia_mods/image/141117444
Is this really worth opening your phone, and probably damaging it? Also, what about the charging times? Is it as slow as USB charge, or almost as fast as wall outlets?
sdk16420 said:
Is this really worth opening your phone, and probably damaging it? Also, what about the charging times? Is it as slow as USB charge, or almost as fast as wall outlets?
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For ARC I'd say it is worth opening as you need to open only one back cover, no modules disconnect, connect etc
charging time is almost as fast as wall outlets
mind two restrictions
1) this induction wireless charging will not work from PC or Laptop USB plugs (at least for me) looks like cradle recognize that it is USB and not just power supply and shuts off
2) it won't work through almost any case / jacket / cover if you put it on you ARC. As it becomes too thick to let induction and magnets alignment work. for this you need to put induction coil in your case as I did for RAY http://www.pbase.com/xperia_mods/xperia_ray_induction_charging_mod
I love these kind of mods. It is it's time ahead. It probably won't take too long before stuff like this will be general.
ndrs said:
I love these kind of mods. It is it's time ahead. It probably won't take too long before stuff like this will be general.
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all toothbrushes have it for almost a decade, but only one mobile phone and one HP pad....
and the cover is closed complete after install?
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and the cover is closed complete after install?
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Yes, you will not notice a difference from the outside
Looks very hard to me..........
you sir are brave.. thumbs up. as already mentioned, it would be nice to see this as a standard option in future phones.
What is induction wireless charging just out of curiosity?
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What is induction wireless charging just out of curiosity?
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http://www.witricity.com/pages/technology.html
Did somebody else perform this?
chouck said:
Did somebody else perform this?
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I tried and damaged my xperia mini pro. I didn't followed this instrutions so I didn't used the Resistor. It charged for 2 seconds and it just stopped working. I heard a small noise and it stopped working. Now my phone is not charging very well and USB is not working.
Do you think it was a peak due to not use the resistor?
I already ordered another phone and palm circuit, just don't like loosing!
Interesting...... very interesting!! but doesnt look like many people have tried it....
Im sure more and more mobile devices will start to use this technology soon
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you sir are brave...
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+1
Anyone tried this on neo?
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n4s, you nuked either the USB connector, a voltage resister between the connector and the board, or an element on the board itself, send it in for repair or seek expert advice.
OP might want to make that disclaimer a little bolder as peaks get expensive.
This would be great for pimping my Arc S.
This inductive charging is getting the new standard, it's called "Qi".
The latest Nokia 920 has it, so does the HTC DNA (full hd display too!)
The next step would be to also transfer audio in this way. So all you need to do is placing your phone in your car kit, and it automatically charges ànd creates and line out signal for your car stereo.
Again the Nokia 920 already has this implemented (and the best smartphone camera ever, apart from Nokia Pureview) Too bad it's not running Android...
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I have to try this! thanks for sharing
okay so my charger for my xoom broke and im leaving for a trip tomorrow. i dont have time to wait to buy it off amazon, is there anyway i can charge the xoom without that charger? like over usb, or some ghetto style rig, i dont care. Can i take the pin off my old charger and attach it to another one with same output? HALP!
u cant charger it through usb cable and all u need the charger or the charging docking stating in order to charge sorry sir there is no other way bad luck
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okay so my charger for my xoom broke and im leaving for a trip tomorrow. i dont have time to wait to buy it off amazon, is there anyway i can charge the xoom without that charger? like over usb, or some ghetto style rig, i dont care. Can i take the pin off my old charger and attach it to another one with same output? HALP!
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If you can get the pin off your old charger you can make it into a usb power plug by soldering the wires together and heatshrinking it. Basically the XOOM will work on any charger that outputs 5V DC, so technically you could charge via USB, but it be a lot slower by 2X I believe. USB is 600mha while the official XOOM charger is 1200mha.
Xoom doesnt have working usb charge Function ... only with original charger and dock power pins (two golden ones)
Xooms Hardware doesnt allow usb charge without Hardware Modifications!
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Chaosgod27 said:
If you can get the pin off your old charger you can make it into a usb power plug by soldering the wires together and heatshrinking it. Basically the XOOM will work on any charger that outputs 5V DC, so technically you could charge via USB, but it be a lot slower by 2X I believe. USB is 600mha while the official XOOM charger is 1200mha.
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Are you serious, usb charging, before you give advise like this you should try it on your tablet, then come back and post about your findings. i bet it won't be good...
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Are you serious, usb charging, before you give advise like this you should try it on your tablet, then come back and post about your findings. i bet it won't be good...
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I guess people these days don't either read correctly or don't give any thought to my posts. I been posting in various forums and they all tend to miss important details as of lately. I will state what I said again:
If you take the pin off your adapter and modify it to connect VIA USB IT WILL WORK, jeez I can't believe people can't even understand that. When I was talking about charging via USB, that is assumed that you have the modified cable you made.
SO therefore I was right, and you are talking crap.
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Alright I will admit I was wrong on one thing, the adapter says 12V 1.5A, not 5V 1.2A, thought it was 5V since my usb car charger works. But anyways here is the damn proof that USB CHARGING IS POSSIBLE.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/l4rn5le1dvqvnjy/2012-09-25 10.02.46.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qmf9wunfvj4zets/2012-09-25 10.04.08.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ma4j1xsw9j9q79s/2012-09-25 10.03.05.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pkevl5cvkb5kk1e/2012-09-25 10.18.53.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6lqlaxoef1xcu6l/2012-09-25 10.19.09.jpg
More than enough proof for you.
Your information should have been, If you take off the power adapter from the cable and modify a car charger to the end it would work..
If your information was post correctly there won't be any miss understand, by the way it is not a pin its a plug.
I'm not going to bother explaining every freakin context behind each words I say. My info more was than enough, unless you are some dim person and couldn't get my point. I clearly stated the fact that you had to solder and heatshrink the wires. Which I believe was more than a big enough "hint". Besides I brought my own adapter "plug" "pin" "tip or whatever you want to call it, so there was no need to modify a freakin car charger. Still can't read can you?
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I'm not going to bother explaining every freakin context behind each words I say. My info more was than enough, unless you are some dim person and couldn't get my point. Still can't read can you?
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Oh i can read, the problem is you can't Rite or Spell what you are thinking...UR Gramma....
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Oh i can read, the problem is you can't Rite or Spell what you are thinking...UR Gramma....
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I can say the same for you buddy.
Now boys... please put the hand bags down and slowly back away...
Interesting DIY effort there though!
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The USB only outputs 5V. The battery is 7.4 lithium poly which charges to 8.4V so can you see why this won't charge. By the way it is Write and not rite or right. Also there are a few mods that can be added to this tablet to make it run well. My solar panel will charge it up nicely when I'm at work or whatever.
Wireless charging will become a nice feature of smart phone and if there is a device to support this ?
it is aluminium. So, no.
You will have to wait for a case that adds the support. But imho wireless charging is a stupid gimmick .. in a car it makes sense, but otherwise it's not that big of a deal .. wireless charging isn't that efficient and connecting a cable not that hard
You could always open up that sexy looking One and retro fit a wireless charging system into the phone. You handy with a dremel?
Reckless187 said:
You could always open up that sexy looking One and retro fit a wireless charging system into the phone. You handy with a dremel?
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useless so far .
voltron2k11 said:
You will have to wait for a case that adds the support. But imho wireless charging is a stupid gimmick .. in a car it makes sense, but otherwise it's not that big of a deal .. wireless charging isn't that efficient and connecting a cable not that hard
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To some a nice convenience, to others a stupid gimmick...
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voltron2k11 said:
You will have to wait for a case that adds the support. But imho wireless charging is a stupid gimmick .. in a car it makes sense, but otherwise it's not that big of a deal .. wireless charging isn't that efficient and connecting a cable not that hard
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Disagree strongly. When it works well (Lumia 920) it is awesome. I love just setting it down and not having to deal with micro USB when I go to bed/wake up in the dark. It is by no means a "must have" feature, but it is really nice.
However on the Nexus 4 it is easier to deal with the Micro-usb than having to have the phone perfectly on the pad and if it moves at all it stops charging.
You can't lie down and use your phone when it's charging. Otherwise, when you are up, you don't need anything wireless to charge. Are you that lazy to plug a little cable?
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You can't lie down and use your phone when it's charging. Otherwise, when you are up, you don't need anything wireless to charge. Are you that lazy to plug a little cable?
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It is a hassle to plug in and unplug the phone to microusb in the dark, that is what I am saying. Nothing to do with lazy or using it while plugged in.
Personally I hate microusb, in the dark it is impossible to tell which direction it goes and always feels like it is going to break.
I use my phone as my alarm so I keep a Microusb on my nightstand so I can plug it in when I go to bed (and likewise unplug it when the alarm is going off) and with the Lumia 920 it was nice to not have to deal with it, that is what I am saying.
Like I said it is not a "must have" feature, but it is MOST DEFINITELY far more convenient.
If you can't understand that I feel sorry for you that you feel the need to endlessly defend old technology because YOU don't care about wireless charging. Is it necessary, must have, or vital.. most definitely not. But it IS better and more convenient, for some of us more than others.
I didn't mean to offend you, sorry
I get what you mean, i still find it useless. I accept, other people might find it useful.
I guess some of you don't have inquisitive, destructive cats. Cords have become the bane of my existence. My phone ends up on the ground every morning if I forget to put it in my nightstand drawer. Never used a device that supports wireless charging, but it definitely wouldn't hurt...
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I guess some of you don't have inquisitive, destructive cats. Cords have become the bane of my existence. My phone ends up on the ground every morning if I forget to put it in my nightstand drawer. Never used a device that supports wireless charging, but it definitely wouldn't hurt...
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yes this is another feature I left out, My cat LOVES the cord, he could care less about the phone. He didn't bother my 920 on the pad once, leave the phone on a cord and I wake up to my phone hanging off my nightstand. :crying:
Of course if he saw the cord going to the pad then I would find my phone on the floor.
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Dharkan said:
I didn't mean to offend you, sorry
I get what you mean, i still find it useless. I accept, other people might find it useful.
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Fair enough . I'm not trying to convince anyone that it is useful for everyone . I just wanted to explain my enjoyment for the technology, as not to be misinterpreted for laziness :silly:
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yes this is another feature I left out, My cat LOVES the cord, he could care less about the phone. He didn't bother my 920 on the pad once, leave the phone on a cord and I wake up to my phone hanging off my nightstand. :crying:
Of course if he saw the cord going to the pad then I would find my phone on the floor.
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Oh yeah, my outlet is like right next to the ground, so playing with the cord means knocking the phone onto the ground. Maybe I should take precautions and move it up to the ceiling.
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Oh yeah, my outlet is like right next to the ground, so playing with the cord means knocking the phone onto the ground. Maybe I should take precautions and move it up to the ceiling.
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That could work!
Get a docking station.
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greentaloy said:
Wireless charging will become a nice feature of smart phone and if there is a device to support this ?
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Nokia Lumia 820 and 920 supports wireless charging and the upcoming S4 also have the function of wireless charging.It is a nice feature, but in fact, it takes extra costs for the wireless charger.
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To some a nice convenience, to others a stupid gimmick...
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+1. Plugging in and removing the microusb causes wear. While I've never had an issue in the past, there are plenty of stories of failed. I'm hoping that Mophie adopts wireless charging and incorporates it into their battery case.
if any of you guys ever had a palm pre with a touchstone, you would understand why he wants it. wear and tear on the microusb is a big enough deal if you keep a phone for at least 24 months. if you are going to power upgrade constantly then its not worth it
I had the DNA for a time with the wireless charger and I really liked it. When home the cell phone is always just on the desk in the office. Anytime I got a call or text or just wanted to check something out or leave, you just grab the phone and then just set it down when done. I also just use a cloth draw string bag with the phone so when home I could just pull the phone out and set it on the charger without taking it out of the bag. I'd love to install a pad for the car too. I wish the One had it.
Pretty disappointed that this phone didn't have wireless charging built in. I assume the aluminum may have something to do with it, but still.
I've gotten so used to the convenience of wireless charging that using a USB cord for power just seems silly. Its such a convenience that I try and make sure phones I purchase have it built in (starting with the Lumia 920, and now the Droid DNA).
Oh well, maybe on the HTC One 2.
This is my second one, both will not charge unless device is perfectly still. Anyone else have this issue?
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This is my second one, both will not charge unless device is perfectly still. Anyone else have this issue?
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You cannot charge by computer USB port as the current is too low (0.5A).. the proper chargers output is 2.0A!!
At night I use a 1A Samsung phone charger and it works too for overnight.
I too have noticed that when plugged into PC no charge
you'll get a charge, but it'll be a trickle. it won't show the charging icon, but it'll charge as long as you don't use it. i think it's about 8hrs or more to completely charge via 500mA usb. i believe a custom kernel could be tweaked to squeeze 900mA out of usb 2.0.
niceiceman said:
You cannot charge by computer USB port as the current is too low (0.5A).. the proper chargers output is 2.0A!!
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yes correct
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yes correct
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actually, it's incorrect. you can charge from a computer as i've stated. all samsung tablets will it's just gonna take alll day to do so.
just about every tablet and phone will charge off of a computer usb por, but it's just gonna take a loooooonnnngg time. great when you're in a pinch and need a bit of juice.
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This is my second one, both will not charge unless device is perfectly still. Anyone else have this issue?
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Are you talking about using the device as its charging, or simply moving it (with screen off) while its connected to the charger? If charging is interrupted just by slight movement, I would suspect a loose MicroUSB port, or a damaged charger or cord. Try a different charger (any MicroUSB charge should work). And if the problem persists, return the tablet. A loose port is not easily fixable, and is going to only get worse.
Hmm I think it's not an issue, you really have a slow charge when you use try it using your pc. Try a real charger, it'll charge fast :highfive:
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Are you talking about using the device as its charging, or simply moving it (with screen off) while its connected to the charger? If charging is interrupted just by slight movement, I would suspect a loose MicroUSB port, or a damaged charger or cord. Try a different charger (any MicroUSB charge should work). And if the problem persists, return the tablet. A loose port is not easily fixable, and is going to only get worse.
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I understand how to charge the device. It has been a loose port. All 3 i have had have had this problem, to varying degrees.
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You cannot charge by computer USB port as the current is too low (0.5A).. the proper chargers output is 2.0A!!
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Obviously, where did I say i used a computer? The port is microUSB.
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I understand how to charge the device. It has been a loose port. All 3 i have had have had this problem, to varying degrees.
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either you've got the worst of luck or you're stronger than you think and jamming that mofo in the microusb port.
i've only had one and the microusb port is fine on mine. i do have a single cable that won't fit properly in any device and will fall out just by looking at it. one thing i've noticed about all the samsung musb cables are that they're short nibbed. do you have a case or something that may be interfering around the musb port and not allowing it to "click" in?
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either you've got the worst of luck or you're stronger than you think and jamming that mofo in the microusb port.
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They may have all come from the same defective batch. I've seen cases where a person got multiple devices (other Android devices) with the same defect. Seems improbable, but apparently possible.
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i do have a single cable that won't fit properly in any device and will fall out just by looking at it.
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The cable what came with the Note 8? If so, that does not sound normal to me. Mine fits snugly and securely.
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Obviously, where did I say i used a computer? The port is microUSB.
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Your OP was pretty brief, and did not state the charge method. So that person was just throwing out a possible case/solution based on the information provided; given it was based on an incorrect assumption.
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They may have all come from the same defective batch. I've seen cases where a person got multiple devices (other Android devices) with the same defect. Seems improbable, but apparently possible.
The cable what came with the Note 8? If so, that does not sound normal to me. Mine fits snugly and securely.
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Your OP was pretty brief, and did not state the charge method. So that person was just throwing out a possible case/solution based on the information provided; given it was based on an incorrect assumption.
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Yep, they have all done it, it mainly happens when i do something like lay down while charging the device. Go and try moving the plug slighlty and ull see it wont be charging. I had my OG note do the same thing, but that was after years. While the plug goes in deep, there is too much play with the port. Ive read others have too, and this is three straight so no fluke. Yes, the cable supplied, or any of the dozens i have for my devices.
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either you've got the worst of luck or you're stronger than you think and jamming that mofo in the microusb port.
i've only had one and the microusb port is fine on mine. i do have a single cable that won't fit properly in any device and will fall out just by looking at it. one thing i've noticed about all the samsung musb cables are that they're short nibbed. do you have a case or something that may be interfering around the musb port and not allowing it to "click" in?
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Its normally fine if its laying flat(though ive plugged it in at night, only to realize in am that it was NOT in fully), but tryying to use the device in landscape while charging moves the cable too much
well, i know it's not any help but mine does work perfectly. i've held and rotated my tablet many times while on the charger (rotating make the galaxy charging app refresh without having that annoying pop up after a certain amount of refreshes - seems to be a useless program as the numbers don't match up with the charging time or what battery monitor widget says on any samsung tablet or phone i have).
maybe i'm just a lucky one?
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well, i know it's not any help but mine does work perfectly. i've held and rotated my tablet many times while on the charger
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Yeah, I just tried that and it didn't seem to affect my Note's charging.
I've had (or currently have) the HTC Evo, S2, S3, S4, and Note 8. My GF has the S3 and Note 8 and her mom has the Note 8 as well. None of our devices have any issues with the USB port. Generally speaking, problems with the USB port stem from improper use.
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i am to facing this issue
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i am to facing this issue
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I just got the BrownBlack one, same thing. If i move the plug to the left, no charge. Granted, its worse with some cables, but the one i have at work i have no problem wiggling around with my N1
So this make four(4) N8.0 with the same issue. Cannot be the same batch, considering one is a newer color.
Been playing with the watch for about an hour.
First boot:
Needs Android Wear and Moto Connect apps.
Downloads an update.
Needs to be around 80% before it can be used because it needs that battery to install the update.
Android Wear is Android Wear so all the swipes needed to get to things are here.
Size : Not bad at all. I thought it would be bigger but its a nice size. It depends on wrist size of course.
Band : Didn't seem like it is easily replaced. But I don't know a ton about watches. It seems to connect into the watch somewhere, that might be something standard though. Didn't look in the manual to see if there were instructions. (Edit : Included manual doesn't say anything. Site - www.motorola.com/mymoto360 - doesn't seem to be up where there is supposed to be a full user manual)
Battery : Way too early to tell, some drain right up front but there is a lot going on with syncing and all. Need to look at some Android Wear info to see how to get notifications beyond email and Google Now.
Charger : Comes with cable connected to the adapter. (Not a USB cable + Adapter). Screen dims while on charger. Button brightens the screen. Would be nice to see notifications on the charge screen.
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Charger : Comes with cable connected to the adapter. (Not a USB cable + Adapter). Screen dims while on charger. Button brightens the screen. Would be nice to see notifications on the charge screen.
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Can you flash a picture up of the charger and associated cable please. When looking at the image below it looks like a SB cable plugging into the charging cradle... if so then its a possible way to get fastboot connectivity, if not then I'm back to the drawing board (not that I can do much until late October anyways).
http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/assets/4866372/Motorola-Moto-360-dal-vivo-22.jpg
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Can you flash a picture up of the charger and associated cable please. When looking at the image below it looks like a SB cable plugging into the charging cradle... if so then its a possible way to get fastboot connectivity, if not then I'm back to the drawing board (not that I can do much until late October anyways).
http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/assets/4866372/Motorola-Moto-360-dal-vivo-22.jpg
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The connection on the base is MicroUSB. So a USB can connect to it. But the charger that comes with the Phone is all one piece (not a seperate AC Adapter and USB cable). It is outputting 5V at 550ma.
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The connection on the base is MicroUSB. So a USB can connect to it. But the charger that comes with the Phone is all one piece (not a seperate AC Adapter and USB cable). It is outputting 5V at 550ma.
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Gotcha, cheers. So looks like PC connectivity would go through the charging cradle. Curious to know if the inductive charging standard they adhere to allows data transfer as well... Motorola must have had some way to debug it when creating firmware etc.
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Can you flash a picture up of the charger and associated cable please. When looking at the image below it looks like a SB cable plugging into the charging cradle... if so then its a possible way to get fastboot connectivity, if not then I'm back to the drawing board (not that I can do much until late October anyways).
http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/assets/4866372/Motorola-Moto-360-dal-vivo-22.jpg
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Jonny said:
Gotcha, cheers. So looks like PC connectivity would go through the charging cradle. Curious to know if the inductive charging standard they adhere to allows data transfer as well... Motorola must have had some way to debug it when creating firmware etc.
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The other end of the charger is attached to the plug in, so far I don't see a way to connect to PC.
EVOme said:
The other end of the charger is attached to the plug in, so far I don't see a way to connect to PC.
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Its a standard MisoUSB that connects to the dock though so just use a standard phone USB-to-MicroUSB cable to connect to PC.
Jonny said:
Its a standard MisoUSB that connects to the dock though so just use a standard phone USB-to-MicroUSB cable to connect to PC.
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Hmm, yeah I'm curious about that. I'm not really sure if there is way to transfer inductive data.
PsychDrummer said:
Hmm, yeah I'm curious about that. I'm not really sure if there is way to transfer inductive data.
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I think I remember reading a while ago that it was planned in other, less well known inductive charging standards, but I'm not sure if the current standard of Qi changing has it.
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I think I remember reading a while ago that it was planned in other, less well known inductive charging standards, but I'm not sure if the current standard of Qi changing has it.
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Someone on reddit mentioned adb over bluetooth. Maybe it's that.
Jonny said:
Its a standard MisoUSB that connects to the dock though so just use a standard phone USB-to-MicroUSB cable to connect to PC.
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That would mean it would transfer data via bluetooth from the PC. I'm not seeing it connect like that. There would have to be another method.
Thanks for providing pictures and giving some insight for what to expect!
Could someone who has the watch please snap a pic of where the strap connects to the body?
I believe Qi does have data. But it is limited to 2kbps and is used for basic communication.
Dusty Rhodes said:
Thanks for providing pictures and giving some insight for what to expect!
Could someone who has the watch please snap a pic of where the strap connects to the body?
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Does anyone know how the band actually comes off yet?
It seems like you would pop the back off somehow.
Actually seeing how the strap connects to the watch, and seeing exactly what the deal is with the metal straps, is like trying to solve a National mystery. I swear, the Illuminati are laughing at me, wringing their hands, and saying to themselves, "...And you will never know, DUSTY.".
Dusty Rhodes said:
Actually seeing how the strap connects to the watch, and seeing exactly what the deal is with the metal straps, is like trying to solve a National mystery.
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There was a picture of the metal band and it looked like the connecter was non-standard. Like the end was a bit longer. Seems like they could have put some kind of door so you could switch out the bands easier. There has to be a way if they are going to have both leather and metal band versions. And in the Verge interview it seemed like they were planning on having options.
So far my only complaint is just with Android Wear. Like swiping away a gmail from the clock but then wanting to bring it up later. Seems like once it is swiped, that card is gone.
Metal band picture from the 22mm band thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55268623&postcount=11
Dead Pixel
Drove all over North Atlanta and got the VERY LAST ONE with the Grey strap...everything seemed cool except for a DEAD PIXEL but I have my receipt and am hoping for an exchange whenever restock hits the stores.
One more thing to note...the device had like 35% charge which allowed me to pair to my Nexus 5 but then started displaying a charge battery notice.
I like the Motorola app that gives me a quick update on the current charge levels...connected to my Energizer QI pad so I think that I will just ditch the cradle charger that it came with unless I travel.
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plporter said:
Drove all over North Atlanta and got the VERY LAST ONE with the Grey strap...everything seemed cool except for a DEAD PIXEL but I have my receipt and am hoping for an exchange whenever restock hits the stores.
One more thing to note...the device had like 35% charge which allowed me to pair to my Nexus 5 but then started displaying a charge battery notice.
I like the Motorola app that gives me a quick update on the current charge levels...connected to my Energizer QI pad so I think that I will just ditch the cradle charger that it came with unless I travel.
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UPDATE: Figured that this may have been a crappy unit...the dead pixel is still there but I did a factory reset and it is downloading an update. When I unboxed and I first turned it on it seemed like it was having issues from the get go...now it seems to be running smooth like a champ albeit 1 bad pixel.
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UPDATE: Figured that this may have been a crappy unit...the dead pixel is still there but I did a factory reset and it is downloading an update. When I unboxed and I first turned it on it seemed like it was having issues from the get go...now it seems to be running smooth like a champ albeit 1 bad pixel.
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They all do that if not fully charged before turning on. You should be GTG now.
They should really mention the need to charge it before trying to set it up.
Phlip00ws6 said:
They all do that if not fully charged before turning on. You should be GTG now.
They should really mention the need to charge it before trying to set it up.
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Sorry man and not to turn this into any tech support forum but just want to confirm that even if the battery got charged to like 65% there was no way to get past the "Charge your battery" screen unless it is either fully charged or charged to a certain capacity?
I did a factory reset and was able to get to the part where it downloaded an update again, rebooted and then immediately came up to that screen which can't be dismissed. The unit is pretty warm so I have placed it on the dock and will check every hour to see how if fairs...just frustrating that it couldn't even start. I am contemplating getting a refund and seeing how others react to everyday usage. I say this based on the fact that you go to the Moto 360 support site and it doesnt have anything under Help Topics...even after you login with a G+ acct or a Motorola acct.
I understand that statistically 1 out of every 100,000 may be the defect and if that is the case then it is what it is...was really hoping to test out a physical watch finally for an app instead of an emulator.
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Phlip00ws6 said:
They all do that if not fully charged before turning on. You should be GTG now.
They should really mention the need to charge it before trying to set it up.
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And BTW thank you very much for your help! Patience will be a virtue in this case.