Would you get the mate 30x with harmony os ? - Huawei Mate 20 X Questions & Answers

considering the fact that there is no android for mate 30 series , would you consider going for it ?

No, I'm in the US and need google apps for work

Im in Denmark Europe and YEESSSS Thx, cant wait.
But even Trumpy boy Saying our Prime minister is NASTY (who is nasty here lol), i would love try out something new Instead of Android and Google, so bring it on.
But to be honest, it will not come in the near future i think.
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Im in Denmark Europe and YEESSSS Thx, cant wait.
But even Trumpy boy Saying our Prime minister is NASTY (who is nasty here lol), i would love try out something new Instead of Android and Google, so bring it on.
But to be honest, it will not come in the near future i think.
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i might be in germany in the next 3 months and sure would like to try sth new but hopefully they can get the most famous apps to work weather by making deals with developers or sideloading from android
but as you said it would definitely take time, i cat wait to see what they got for the mate 30 series
the mate 20x is really a gem for those who want the best in a massive screen

Yeah, sad that this crap is happening to Huawei. I like their phone designs and where else can I get a 7"+ phablet? Sigh, but I do a lot with Google Play.
Not good that a platform is used against a manufacturer..

I doubt id get any device with Emui on it regardless of Google or not. This OS is a major learning curve for me and sometimes makes my brain bleed.

Limeybastard said:
I doubt id get any device with Emui on it regardless of Google or not. This OS is a major learning curve for me and sometimes makes my brain bleed.
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Harmony is not an option right now. Nor it is Mate 30x. It may come later (next year) if Huawei recognizes that it has potential.
But for now, I think that Huawei will put all its hopes into Mate 30, 30 pro and X. All of them will likely come with some Android and without GPS.
None of the three anticipated phones is my option. I simply can't jump from Mate 20 X to the phone of ordinary size, battery, and extremely curved screen besides. And 30 pro appears ugly to me with that obsolete notch and double camera ring (one ring, shaped as Motorola's would be amazing though). I'm not much a selfie guy, don't need and believe in face unlock, and I hardly wait for a phone with underscreen selfie camera.
I don't like folding phones of any known design either. It looks like poor technical solution to me and besides soft folding screens will be prone to be extremely scratch sensitive and there is no way to protect them. They are simply massive for a phone and useless for a computer. And is yet to be seen how durable is the folding mechanism.
My plan is to keep Mate 20x as long as to the end of the next year if needed and see what is coming around. It is to be upgraded to Q and till next fall it will be good enough.
And the new Huawei without GPS could be my option only if I can unlock bootloader and root it. Otherwise, I'd look elsewhere. And big screen with huge battery are something to look for.

piskr said:
Harmony is not an option right now. Nor it is Mate 30x. It may come later (next year) if Huawei recognizes that it has potential.
But for now, I think that Huawei will put all its hopes into Mate 30, 30 pro and X. All of them will likely come with some Android and without GPS.
None of the three anticipated phones is my option. I simply can't jump from Mate 20 X to the phone of ordinary size, battery, and extremely curved screen besides. And 30 pro appears ugly to me with that obsolete notch and double camera ring (one ring, shaped as Motorola's would be amazing though). I'm not much a selfie guy, don't need and believe in face unlock, and I hardly wait for a phone with underscreen selfie camera.
I don't like folding phones of any known design either. It looks like poor technical solution to me and besides soft folding screens will be prone to be extremely scratch sensitive and there is no way to protect them. They are simply massive for a phone and useless for a computer. And is yet to be seen how durable is the folding mechanism.
My plan is to keep Mate 20x as long as to the end of the next year if needed and see what is coming around. It is to be upgraded to Q and till next fall it will be good enough.
And the new Huawei without GPS could be my option only if I can unlock bootloader and root it. Otherwise, I'd look elsewhere. And big screen with huge battery are something to look for.
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I feel exactly and 100% like you, cant downgrade screen size at all... Never,
I still miss my zenfone 3 ultra, i wish m20x had the same size to, could be dope if it had 16:6 format.
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Was going to preorder LG G5 but will wait for M10 now

The value of the preorder for the LG G5 means you get $932 worth of equipment for $632. It was very tempting, but I don't want to preorder it and then wish I had waited for the M10. I really want the M10 to be top dog. Rumor is going around there is going to be a M10+ with a 5.5" screen but nothing about when or where it would be released. That's the one I'd rather have.
I'm waiting too.
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The value of the preorder for the LG G5 means you get $932 worth of equipment for $632. It was very tempting, but I don't want to preorder it and then wish I had waited for the M10. I really want the M10 to be top dog. Rumor is going around there is going to be a M10+ with a 5.5" screen but nothing about when or where it would be released. That's the one I'd rather have.
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Even if it still a rumor, I would stay away for the M10+ and buy the M10. If you look in the past, you'll see that the "+" variant never had good development compared to the non "+" one. Might not be an issue if you don't care about custom roms...
i just saw these 2 videos and i got disappointed with LG, i wasn't going to buy it but i expected more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GQ43cF5TuU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyP_cEpp2Zo
alray said:
Even if it still a rumor, I would stay away for the M10+ and buy the M10. If you look in the past, you'll see that the "+" variant never had good development compared to the non "+" one. Might not be an issue if you don't care about custom roms...
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Thanks for the tip. I'll heed your advice.
codeglitch said:
i just saw these 2 videos and i got disappointed with LG, i wasn't going to buy it but i expected more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GQ43cF5TuU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyP_cEpp2Zo
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All metal? Ha! I'm glad I resisted and didn't buy this. After watching these, I would have been unhappy. Thanks.
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i just saw these 2 videos and i got disappointed with LG, i wasn't going to buy it but i expected more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GQ43cF5TuU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyP_cEpp2Zo
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Wow! Hopefully the HTC 10 will be better.
Me too
codeglitch said:
i just saw these 2 videos and i got disappointed with LG, i wasn't going to buy it but i expected more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GQ43cF5TuU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyP_cEpp2Zo
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That tear down video is a plus for me. The phone is easy to repair! The only criticism he makes is the "lack of premium feel". Personally that is way down on my list of concerns. I am not looking to impress anyone with how great my phone looks and I doubt anyone gives a damn anyway. I look for the features I want first and foremost. I have to admit I was not happy with how thin the glass over the screen is on the other video. That does kind off suck but I don't think it is a deal breaker for me.
I have a G5 arriving tomorrow. The camera and the replaceabe battery are what sold me. The free extra battery and charge case and the free 360 degree camera made me jump on it. I will miss the wireless charging now I am accustomed to it and have charge plates sitting everywhere! I only wonder if I should hold off opening the box until I can find out more about the HTC 10 after it is released on the 12th. I
I believe LG is on to something-- a modular phone has been my geek dream since the birth of smartphones! However, I don't think the first generation "beta" of this feature is going to be where it's at. There are a couple WOW mods (Battery and camera) that are simply awesome, but otherwise this first iteration is just a really nice albeit average phone with some snap-in "meh."
If the M10 fails to impress, the G5 is probably what I'm going to get. I didn't pre-order the G5, so I won't be getting the package either way.
I pre-ordered the G5 as I wasn't convinced of the HTC 2016 flagship a month ago.
However my pre-order for the G5 has now been delayed to the 22nd April and as a result I've been following the build up and now really liking the look of the HTC 10.
If it has a 5.1 inch or bigger LCD (not AMOLED), SD 820, 4GB RAM, I think I'll cancel my G5 and get this. I'd want the black face though, either with silver back or black back, I don't like the white fronted version in the leaks....
Time will tell tomorrow.
The G5 is a flop. Most of the reviews say it's half baked and pretty lackluster. The only good thing anyone has to say about it is that the camera is good.
I am currently using the S7 Edge but I have one more Jump until June. (I am on T-Mobile's Jump on Demand program which gives me 3 upgrades a year). I was going to maybe move to the G5 or the HTC 10 since I wasn't all that impressed with the S7E. After the major update T-Mobile pushed out for the S7E last week, my mind changed and I am now extremely impressed with the S7E. The battery lasts forever and the touchscreen is no longer overly sensitive.
That being said, I will wait to see what the HTC 10 brings. I love the look of the phone and I like Sense more than TW. The only thing I wish it had was a larger display but I can live with 5.2".
At the end of the day, the G5 is already crossed off the list. I played around with one in the store and was totally unimpressed. It felt like crap in my hand. The chamfered edges are too sharp and feel uncomfortable while I'm gaming in horizontal view. The display is also very average. Not impressed one bit. I wouldn't call it bad but it wasn't what I'd expect from LG. When it comes to looks, I know it comes down to personal preference but damn the G5 us fugly. When you hold a S7E next to it, you can just see that the S7E is on a whole nother level when it comes to sleekness. Everything wasn't bad for the G5 though. The UI felt snappy and I didn't notice and lag/jitters.
I like the look and feel of the G5. I think all the phones pretty much look the same and I really don't care that much about it anyone. I don't think anyone is getting laid because their phone is so impressive. I have been wanting a wide angle shooter on a phone for years...awesome! I have always carried spare batteries. I can always go from 10% to 100% in seconds.....also awesome!
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LG g5 is DOA. I'm returning mine. Better competition. The build quality alone isn't very good as that gap between the module and Chassis is frustrating. Moreover, the camera isn't as good as the S7 Edge.
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I've cancelled my g5 order. It getting delayed was definitely meant to be as I've ordered the htc 10 for only £13 more
After seeing the HTC 10 today it's looking very promising. Much better than the G5.
What do you mean by better? The finish and feel might be slicker but that is not my main concern. I will miss the wireless charging on my S3 but the 10 doesn't have that either. The replaceable battery and wide angle shooter are what makes me want the G5. No matter how great the phone looks it ain't much good if the battery craps out on you at 2AM and you are not at home! Zero to 100% in seconds will always be a winner for me. I always carry a spare battery. No matter how strong the battery life of the S7 is it will not be as good in a year! The fee charge cradle, spare battery, and 360 camera cinched it for me (I see the T-mo offer on the 360 cam had been extended so you can still get it).
Did you see the breakdown review on juryrigeverythind.com (I think that is it)? The G5 will be very easy to repair. That makes up for a little sloppiness in built to me, as long as everything works ok from the start. I think they all look like cell phones. If you want to look cool get some new clothes, nobody is looking at your phone and judging you on it!
None of the reviews fault the G5 on performance, it is a beast. Most of the reviewers discount the friends module aspect of the phone because there are not many now and it is questionable what will develop. Still, the idea that I might get surprised with some cool new module feature is a plus for me. Who doesn't get a little bored with the phone after a couple years? I think the G5 is getting unfair treatment by a lot of reviewers.
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The big cross against G5 is the locked (or unlocked custom as seen on Tmobile variant) bootloader. That's a big one for me. I was looking at G5 and gave up on it because of that.
As for battery, I just carry a 10k slab and charge up my phone using that if I am not next to a wall or laptop or pc. Who wants to reboot the phone for a replaceable battery! So, I will likely not use that unique feature of G5 ever.
Going to wait and see what this feels like in hand, coming from 5.5 and up phones I don't want this to feel tiny in my hands.
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I've had my G5 for 2 days now. Build is good- the modular piece seams nicely, feels good in hand. Tested for light bleed- minimal bleed on top and only noticeable in darkened room with test app, very accceptable. I read about someone having a proble with the audio jack- mine is very tight. Someone said they had hissing sound with BT- mine is great with my jawbone and my car unit. Battery time is ok, maybe not great, I tend to be a heavy user. Quick charge is very fast, about 1% per minute. I look forward to receiving the spare battery, unlike previous poster I do not mind rebooting my phone, especially if I can go from 15% ot 100% in 30 seconds! Camera is very good, lover the wide angle. It seems that the metering only has center weight and matrix which disappoints but I may not be understanding the interface, need to find a manual, phone only comes with a quick start guide so I guess I can download from LG. Overall I am very happy. Can't wait to play around with promo 360 camera when it arrives!
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Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Samsung Galaxy Note 7, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
The phone feels really good in the hand. The only reason I didn't give it 5 stars is the worry I have with the scratches.
I love my Note 7 so much! The build quality is exceptional and the display is truly stunning. its just so immersive.
Made a little quick look video about it
Alright, alright. I had to create an account after reading several critiques and complaints on this forum. I'm sure a lot of people that are considering buying the phone will be popping in and reading the very same complaints while considering their purchase. The purpose of this thread is to clear up said complaints, from my own personal experience.
First of all, I'd like to ensure you all who haven't bought the phone yet that you absolutely have to buy it and experience it for yourself before making any decision. After all, you usually have 14 days to return it. I say this because, while the phone is not "perfect" as many here on this forum have pointed out, it is probably one of the most aesthetically pleasing phones I've ever laid eyes on, and feels incredibly comfortable in the hand. Pictures DO NOT do this phone justice, and the overflowing screen, combined with the size and weight of the phone, gives an overwhelming feeling of vibrancy when holding/viewing.
(Cost) The phone is expensive, yes, but there's a reason for that: it's a top tier smartphone. If you haven't gotten used to a hefty price tag yet, then you must not have been in the market for long. If you can't afford it, get a OnePlus 3, but I can guarantee you it wont be as fine an experience. Most cell phone companies offer financing, anyway. Meaning, you make a small monthly payment for the phone itself over the course of the 1-2 years you'll be using it anyway, and if you decide to, you simply cancel service and pay the phone off. Most companies will then give you an unlock code, and the phone is then yours to do what you please with it, or bring it to another service provider. Either way, every dime you pay while financing brings you closer to owning it, if you decide not to buy it outright. I personally will probably just pay mine off when the price tag gets down to about $400 dollars.
(Delicacy or Lack Thereof) As I stated in the introduction, the phone is thin, comfortable, feels great in the hand, but the overflowing screen gives it a very large & vibrant appearance even though it doesn't FEEL that large in the hand. Does this mean it feels delicate and fragile? Not at all. Now that's not to say you wouldn't WANT to drop it, but for the most part, it's easy to handle, has the perfect weight to it, and doesn't feel fragile by any means. This phone is NOT going to scratch/break in your pocket, unless you're mashing your legs into the sharp edges of tables or falling onto it, or for whatever reason like to keep sharp objects in the same pocket as your phone. It's NOT going to scratch by simply setting it down on a table, or having it slide in between the seats of your car.
This brings me down to a point I've emphasized before: If you're going to buy a $900 phone? DO... not... drop it! I mean, honestly, lets be real here guys: accidents DO happen. However, it's those of us who are incredibly careful, who are capable of owning phones like these. If you're someone who is very clumsy, careless, active, etc., perhaps NO phone of this design type is meant for you. That is not the fault of the manufacturers. There are many phone manufacturers who build phones designed for DURABILITY. My last Galaxy, which wasn't exactly designed for durability, lasted me 2 FULL YEARS however, and has never been dropped once, nor does it have a single scratch. This phone IS durable though- it's durable for a phone of THIS make, this design, and trust me... this is a stylish designer phone, it simply is not an ACTIVE phone. If you want to turn it INTO an ACTIVE phone? Buy a damn Otterbox Defender. When you're hiking/rock climbing/playing basketball, whatever- you're going to have an ACTIVE Note 7 phone. Then when you're doing some casual driving, sitting at a desk, sitting anywhere at home really, at dinner with friends, or pretty much doing anything that's non-active, pop it out of it's case. You'll then, once again, have the nicest phone that anyone's ever laid eyes on.
To summarize the above, be a responsible phone owner, and you'll be fine. If you can't handle the responsibility of owning such an expensive product that was designed to be durable while keeping a fantastic overall appearance, don't buy it. You can't fault manufacturers for your lack of care.
(Battery Life) I've owned this phone for a little while now, and I've charged it approximately one and a half times (by a half, I mean plugged it in at 40-50% before leaving the house) per day. I keep High Accuracy GPS on, I keep brightness at 85-95%, I keep a multicolor 'Always On' display up, I have the "screen off" time set to 3 minutes, I have HD quality wallpapers for home & lock screens, and I keep WiFi on. I have yet to use any of the battery saver modes or capabilities. During the first few days of owning this phone, I would install back to back programs, take 15+ pictures while playing around with the different camera & video settings, record videos of my screen, experiment with the S pen, experiment with different mobile games, set up setting after setting, security feature after security feature, experiment with high quality video, stream YouTube & Netflix movies, the list goes on and on and I'm sure anyone who's ever owned a new phone knows exactly what I'm talking about.
During these times, my battery would last approximately 9 hours before falling to 20% or below. That's EXTREME HEAVY use, with battery draining functions, brightness, and high resolution screens, and no power saving whatsoever giving me 9 hours of use without even falling into critical battery levels. When I get down to around 20%, I plug it in and it takes about 40-50 minutes to charge back to 100%. If my battery is at 30% or higher, I simply plug it in and it's charged in 30-40 minutes or less. I have ONCE allowed my phone to fall below 10%, and it took no longer than one hour to charge to 100%. So yes, the battery is EXTREMELY good, and it charges extremely fast.
(Fingerprints) This phone will have fingerprints on it within just a few minutes of use, however, they are hardly noticeable unless you're actually looking for them. Once it gets marked up really heavily, which only takes about two hours of use to happen, it becomes a little more noticeable at a glance, but still, you have to be UP CLOSE to the phone to even notice. Now, I have EXTREME OCD, so this should bother me a lot more, right? No, it doesn't. What I do is keep 2 microfiber towels- one on my desk(where I spend a lot of my time) and one in my car. Whenever I pick up my phone after an extended period of non-use, I simply wipe it with the dry towel(takes 15 seconds) and viola- it looks like it JUST came out of the box again... brand new. When going somewhere, I do a quick wipe of the phone before exiting my vehicle- and viola. Brand new looking phone sitting in my pocket wherever I'm going. The gorgeous material of this phone is a worthy sacrifice for some barely noticeable fingerprints that can easily be rectified. Oh, by the way. BECAUSE of the material the phone is made of, it is MUCH EASIER to clean with said microfiber towels than the older plastic models, such as the S4. That one took at lot more scrubbing and hitting specific areas, and would also get smudge marks from the fingerprints being "wiped in" by the cloth, that were almost impossible to get rid of.
(The "oh so" Awful Speaker) This is one of the biggest critiques the phone has received, by both people on this forum, and review videos/articles/websites all across the interwebz. And I? I just don't see it. The speaker, to me, is LOUD. Now, it's not booming, bass boosted music cube quality, however... it is loud enough to where I could easily hear it ringing(depending on the ringtone) from across the house in another room. It's also loud enough to where I could play a video, turn the volume to max, set it about 50 feet away, and still hear it vividly. Also, I love the quality of the sound. It doesn't sound cheap, or poor at all to me. Non-speaker voice sound is crystal clear through this during calls. Sometimes if you hold the phone a certain way, you can block off the speaker since it's on the bottom, muffling the sound. However, muscle memory allowed me to quickly get used to preventing this after the very first time it happened. I never have a problem with the speaker being on the bottom, outside of the fact that I slightly prefer the headphone jack being on the top.
(Performance) Mentions of slow loading, TouchWiz lag, etc on this thread, I have yet to experience once. TouchWiz also has a much better interface now, especially after downloading a free theme that I liked. TouchWiz does not lag at all for me. Nothing on this phone loads "slowly" for me. I did a screen-record video of myself navigating different apps, games, etc on my phone, and literally sh** was opening within milliseconds of each tap, minus games, which, depending on the size/type of game, would take just a few seconds. I see no "slowness" in this phone whatsoever. There's literally not even delays between navigating pages on Facebook, switching from Facebook to YouTube and then from YouTube to Gmail and then from Gmail to a video on my phone. If I were to do all these app switches and loads in order of what I just listed, it would take no more than the time it takes me to open the Edge screen and tap the different apps. Game-play on games such as Mage and Minions is fluid, without noticeable frame drops, and without lag.
(Fingerprint & Iris Scanners) Fingerprint scanner works perfectly if you actually use it right, i.e., gently place your *entire* fingertip over the button. The iris scanner is not perfect, but it works 95% of the time and is FAST... VERY FAST when it does work. If you're looking for a "more secure" method of locking your phone- that's what it's for. It is supposed to be much more secure than the fingerprint scanner, and it's very fast as long as you do it right. Like, I'm talking, sometimes I don't even have time to see the "eye circles" appear on the screen. It just unlocks in a millisecond, as I'm already holding the phone in the correct position upon swiping up. Now, if you wear glasses or contacts, just skip the iris scanner. It is not 100% necessity, by any means, and your phone can be secured with simply the fingerprint scanner or a complex password. Not the end of the world.
Now, I do not consider myself to be a "Samsung fanboy," nor a "Galaxy fanboy." I do not dislike Apple Products outside of the fact that I think they're just a tad highly priced in comparison to Samsung(I know, the difference is becoming very slight, but even still). My wife has the 6s Plus, and it's a great phone. I do not work for Samsung, I do not work for any cell phone company at all, I am not paid to write any of the above. This was simply my unbiased response/personal review of the Note 7, that I was inclined to write after seeing so many negative comments on this thread in addition to a lot of misinformation. I WANT others to get the same experience I'm getting with my Note 7, and frankly, not be discouraged by others. So there you go.
Ace Ryan said:
If you haven't gotten used to a hefty price tag yet, then you must not have been in the market for long. If you can't afford it, get a OnePlus 3, but I can guarantee you it wont be as fine an experience.
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i have both phones and i completely disagree. the oneplus 3 is actually faster and smoother (sometimes by quite a bit) and the photo differences are minor (this compares shots by both phones at 100% crop http://www.forbes.com/sites/bensin/...etter-photos-than-far-cheaper-chinese-phones/). and i don't know about you, but i'm willing to bet most people can't really tell the difference between a quad HD and 1080p display.
i'm not saying the oneplus 3 is better. overall, the Note 7 is better, but by only a bit (unless you are someone to whom stylus and waterproofing makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE. like if you're a lifeguard who likes to sketch or something).
the oneplus 3 is like 90-95% as good, at less than half the price. i don't get why you're trying to justify the note 7's cost for samsung, using excuses like "phone companies let you finance anyway", that's not a fair point to make, because the phone still cost more, period.
also, i see that you say the Note 7 doesn't have lag. really? go into settings and type into the search box. on my Exynos Note 7, after i type something in, there's a full two second wait before anything loads. on my US$280 Xiaomi Mi 5, or $400 OnePlus 3, results load in REAL TIME as i type each letter. the same lag also appears when you search for apps in Note 7's app tray.
i hate this phone
the build quality is the worst and there is gap between the device and the screen. u can see it when u at the brightness on full
please watch this video
the support response was this is a new design
the samsung arabia support completly ignored me
for me note 7 is as good as a cheap chinese phone regardless what it can do.
with such a trash build and poor support i am really wondering how are they number 1 ??
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i have both phones and i completely disagree. the oneplus 3 is actually faster and smoother (sometimes by quite a bit) and the photo differences are minor (this compares shots by both phones at 100% crop http://www.forbes.com/sites/bensin/...etter-photos-than-far-cheaper-chinese-phones/). and i don't know about you, but i'm willing to bet most people can't really tell the difference between a quad HD and 1080p display.
i'm not saying the oneplus 3 is better. overall, the Note 7 is better, but by only a bit (unless you are someone to whom stylus and waterproofing makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE. like if you're a lifeguard who likes to sketch or something).
the oneplus 3 is like 90-95% as good, at less than half the price. i don't get why you're trying to justify the note 7's cost for samsung, using excuses like "phone companies let you finance anyway", that's not a fair point to make, because the phone still cost more, period.
also, i see that you say the Note 7 doesn't have lag. really? go into settings and type into the search box. on my Exynos Note 7, after i type something in, there's a full two second wait before anything loads. on my US$280 Xiaomi Mi 5, or $400 OnePlus 3, results load in REAL TIME as i type each letter. the same lag also appears when you search for apps in Note 7's app tray.
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Eh, I'm not attempting to justify it so much as I am saying "it is what it is, and that there are affordable options for those who can't just buy the phone outright. For everyone else, and for those who do not care for the added specs, then there are a wide range of options out there. No doubt, the OnePlus 3 is a great phone for the price, and a good alternative for those who don't want to shell out the extra expenses. It is very much comparable in many ways, but as you said yourself, the Note 7 is better. I am, however, questioning the legitimacy of your statement that you own both phones after you stated your doubt as to people being able to tell the difference between 1080p and the display of the Note. Almost so much so, that I'd be willing to bet you're just a OnePlus3 owner. Maybe I just have good eyesight, but the HUGE difference between the phenomenal display of the Note 7 and the OnePlus 3 when put side to side was what made me go with the Note 7. Also, I can't speak for everyone, but I've owned this phone for a while now and have not experienced a single blip of lag. Then again, I don't use search functions for apps or settings due to the fact that I have a custom layout that has everything very easily accessible with a swipe and a click.
In terms of camera quality, yes, the OnePlus 3 barely falls behind. However, speed of focus, dark lighting, things like that, the Note 7 camera wins hands down.
Ace Ryan said:
I am, however, questioning the legitimacy of your statement that you own both phones after you stated your doubt as to people being able to tell the difference between 1080p and the display of the Note. Almost so much so, that I'd be willing to bet you're just a OnePlus3 owner.
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Wow, Ryan, you're straight out calling me a liar on here when I typed a pretty reasonable response? How old are you, 14? anyway, i'd advice you stop making so many bad bets, cause you'd go broke.
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Wow, Ryan, you're straight out calling me a liar on here when I typed a pretty reasonable response? How old are you, 14? anyway, i'd advice you stop making so many bad bets, cause you'd go broke.
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I is that the p9 plus?
This phone is the best in 2016. Full of useful options and performance is awesome with a fantastic build quality
vodovodo said:
I is that the p9 plus?
This phone is the best in 2016. Full of useful options and performance is awesome with a fantastic build quality
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Hi voodoo, yes that is a p9 plus. I like it a lot too, though, the note 7's rounded corners feels so much more comfy in my hands than the square edges of p9 plus.
I love mine! Completely happy with it. I feel like I got one of the better built ones? No light leaks, call quality is amazing compared to my iPhone 6, Note 4 N910W8, LG G4 and S5. Battery life a astonishing! Was out for 14 hours yesterday and had the screen on auto brightness 80-90% most of the time and an hour of Pokemon Go (brought my power bank in case never got to use it) at the end of the day it was still at 62%! Lol! I dont know if thats normal but I'm happy.
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Just finish Antutu 3D and got a 133565 score which is not bad for me. maybe its because I came from a note 4 my expectations are way low lol.
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Hi voodoo, yes that is a p9 plus. I like it a lot too, though, the note 7's rounded corners feels so much more comfy in my hands than the square edges of p9 plus.
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I own a p9 plus also at moment and I love it, nevertheless the Note 7 is interesting for me.
Can you comment more on the differences?
I tried many devices and as I live in an area with poor reception one of the best things is that the p9 has absolutely unparalleled reception quality - also compared to the S7 Edge ...
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I own a p9 plus also at moment and I love it, nevertheless the Note 7 is interesting for me.
Can you comment more on the differences?
I tried many devices and as I live in an area with poor reception one of the best things is that the p9 has absolutely unparalleled reception quality - also compared to the S7 Edge ...
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Hi,
The biggest difference is that the Note 7 feels a bit more comfortable in the hand, due to its rounded sides compared to the P9 plus' square-ish sides. The software is, obviously, quite different too if used as is. but i use nova launcher on both so they behave closer now.
otherwise, there isn't that big a difference. again, i really don't see a difference between 1080p and quad HD display (i really tried putting the phones side by side and looking at various photos and apps and videos), and the Note 7 camera -- while probably the best overall -- isn't that much better than other cameras out there. (http://www.forbes.com/sites/bensin/...etter-photos-than-far-cheaper-chinese-phones/). in fact, i love the P9's gimmick camera features like light trails and night shot, which create really stylish photos that the Note 7 cannot.
as for speed, the P9, like the OnePlus 3, is actually a bit smoother than the Note 7. the Note 7 isn't bad at all, it's just slightly laggy/buggy because of TouchWiz.
overall i would still say the Note 7 is the better phone, BUT i can't stress enough that the difference between the note 7 and a Chinese flagship isn't that big ... not enough to justify the extra $300 or $400 to the average consumer.
i'd recommend the Note 7 for the following types of people:
1: people who don't think US$400 is a lot of money
2: people who really need features like waterproofing and stylus (say, if you are a lifeguard, or if you need to anecdote documents regularly, etc)
3: tech geeks who like to collect gadgets and own the latest/most buzzworthy thing (i am one of these).
4: loyal samsung fans who just want to stick with the company's products
that's about it. otherwise, to the average person -- someone who just buys a phone and uses one phone only for a year or two -- it's very, very hard to justify paying US$850 for the note 7 when the OnePlus 3 costs US$400 or the Huawei P9 Plus costs US$500.
Note 7 is underrated by these standards
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i have both phones and i completely disagree. the oneplus 3 is actually faster and smoother (sometimes by quite a bit) and the photo differences are minor (this compares shots by both phones at 100% crop http://www.forbes.com/sites/bensin/...etter-photos-than-far-cheaper-chinese-phones/). and i don't know about you, but i'm willing to bet most people can't really tell the difference between a quad HD and 1080p display.
i'm not saying the oneplus 3 is better. overall, the Note 7 is better, but by only a bit (unless you are someone to whom stylus and waterproofing makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE. like if you're a lifeguard who likes to sketch or something).
the oneplus 3 is like 90-95% as good, at less than half the price. i don't get why you're trying to justify the note 7's cost for samsung, using excuses like "phone companies let you finance anyway", that's not a fair point to make, because the phone still cost more, period.
also, i see that you say the Note 7 doesn't have lag. really? go into settings and type into the search box. on my Exynos Note 7, after i type something in, there's a full two second wait before anything loads. on my US$280 Xiaomi Mi 5, or $400 OnePlus 3, results load in REAL TIME as i type each letter. the same lag also appears when you search for apps in Note 7's app tray.
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In performance, OnePlus seems amazing. However the reason I got the Note 7 as a expensive price was, Water Resistance/Proof for 1M 30 Minutes, Curved Screen and Design, Micro SD up to 256gb, Pen for drawing, Iris Scanner (For Wearing Gloves or wet fingerprint), 2K screen, (DPI doesn't matter but for VR, 2K+ definitively needed) Dual Camera and Powerful "Water-Proof" speaker. So far, I have used all these features and found them to be lacking in other phones. I did get Note 7 for Samsung Pay MST however Aussie support sucks so, just rooted and tripped knox.
The Screen is beautiful and curved that makes it appear bigger that it actually is without major size difference. The Water sealing without external ports is so easily to deal with and when i'm in the shower/bath the S-Pen actually helps. I kinda of just got this phone for the easy convenience features. Waterproof is a huge deal, specifically without external ports, it's a major design for people to get the phone. I hear sales people always advertising it and customers wanting it.
I don't own a OnePlus but I'm just saying despite this overpriced phone with it's security restrictions (Hate that) no other phone has all this. Not LG, not Nexus, not OnePlus, not Sony. I do like OnePlus open OEM policy, so no hate. Just hardware and general phone wise, Note 7 is worth twice the price.
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In performance, OnePlus seems amazing. However the reason I got the Note 7 as a expensive price was, Water Resistance/Proof for 1M 30 Minutes, Curved Screen and Design, Micro SD up to 256gb, Pen for drawing, Iris Scanner (For Wearing Gloves or wet fingerprint), 2K screen, (DPI doesn't matter but for VR, 2K+ definitively needed) Dual Camera and Powerful "Water-Proof" speaker. So far, I have used all these features and found them to be lacking in other phones. I did get Note 7 for Samsung Pay MST however Aussie support sucks so, just rooted and tripped knox.
The Screen is beautiful and curved that makes it appear bigger that it actually is without major size difference. The Water sealing without external ports is so easily to deal with and when i'm in the shower/bath the S-Pen actually helps. I kinda of just got this phone for the easy convenience features. Waterproof is a huge deal, specifically without external ports, it's a major design for people to get the phone. I hear sales people always advertising it and customers wanting it.
I don't own a OnePlus but I'm just saying despite this overpriced phone with it's security restrictions (Hate that) no other phone has all this. Not LG, not Nexus, not OnePlus, not Sony. I do like OnePlus open OEM policy, so no hate. Just hardware and general phone wise, Note 7 is worth twice the price.
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you make fair points. thanks for responding in a civil manner, unlike that dude AceRyan, who just accused me of being a liar.
vodovodo said:
i hate this phone
the build quality is the worst and there is gap between the device and the screen. u can see it when u at the brightness on full
please watch this video
the support response was this is a new design
the samsung arabia support completly ignored me
for me note 7 is as good as a cheap chinese phone regardless what it can do.
with such a trash build and poor support i am really wondering how are they number 1 ??
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you really did not see the mentioned flaws or defects when you bought the phone? I always check the things I buy before paying
As far as the phone, It's gorgeous. Minor things I don't like, but more or less, it's 5 stars.
vodovodo said:
i hate this phone
the build quality is the worst and there is gap between the device and the screen. u can see it when u at the brightness on full
please watch this video
the support response was this is a new design
the samsung arabia support completly ignored me
for me note 7 is as good as a cheap chinese phone regardless what it can do.
with such a trash build and poor support i am really wondering how are they number 1 ??
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@vodovodo- thanks for posting and making the video....was wondering, do you think the lack of build quality is because it is a non-US variant?
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i hate this phone
the build quality is the worst and there is gap between the device and the screen. u can see it when u at the brightness on full
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Are you sure that is not light leak but rather light refraction?

Would you buy one now?

Need to find a replacement for my trusty Gshock that just died. Am thinking of going with a smart watch and the Huawei seems to be the best of the bunch.
With the new version coming soon, would you buy one of these now? I can't seem to find any good sales on the current watch at the moment, so would likely buy sell and hand.
Or will the existing watch go on sale when the new one is released and used prices also drop?
What real benefits is the new model likely to offer?
Anyone in the UK have a good example they are thinking of selling? Ideally with stainless strap and black would also be a plus.
Cheers
Sorry, realised this should be in the Q&A forum. Sent request to admin
There's rumors that the HW 2 will be revealed in less than a week, so if I were you I'd wait until at least then so you'll have more facts before making a decision.
http://www.techradar.com/news/huawei-watch-2-release-date-news-and-rumors
I've bought my watch about week ago and I do not regret. Great watch
well.. looking at the reviews the newer models do not seem to offer a huge improvement over the HW, and I really love everything about this watch after almost a year now
So yes, would def buy one now especially that the price is lower
You should keep an eye out on Amazon (US version). I picked up a "used - like new" Huawei watch for $124 from Amazon Warehouse. I expected it to be damaged but it was like new, except the box wasn't sealed. Really good deal and I glad I got the watch.
I bought one yesterday as I don't like the sporty look.
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I bought one yesterday as I don't like the sporty look.
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worth it ???
even i'm getting a refund for my moto 360 2nd gen so should i buy this or go for zen watch 3 ?
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worth it ???
even i'm getting a refund for my moto 360 2nd gen so should i buy this or go for zen watch 3 ?
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The watch itself is great. Android Wear 1 is a laggy though. So Android Wear 2 should make it better.
With HW 2 being too gear s3 ish and no rotating bezel.. I mean WTF - I'll probably go with the first gen HW. I just really wish it had GPS and NFC. Once it goes back to < $200 I'm grabbing one. I'll go to best buy and return it if wear 2.0 isn't what I hope it is. If thats the case, maaaybe gear s3 classic can fit the bill.
I just got my HW yesterday. I replaced my beloved Moto 360 gen 1, and I'm really glad I did. The screen is beautiful, everything about the watch screams quality, no flat tire, Wear 2.0 officially incoming. I was watching to see if the price would come down after HW 2 was revealed, but it actually went up. I got lucky and found one at pre-reveal prices. Looks like I'm not the only one who thinks "sporty" autonomous smart watches are a terrible idea.
I got my HW last week, just before the HW 2 was announced and don't regret it a bit. This is a great watch and great replacement for my Sony Smartwatch 3.
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I got my HW last week, just before the HW 2 was announced and don't regret it a bit. This is a great watch and great replacement for my Sony Smartwatch 3.
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I actually have two. One with AW 2.0 DP4/5 and one still running AW 1.5 MM. Can't seem to part with either at this point. I also have a ZW2.
I have both Hwatch and ZW3, but I advise you rather buy ZW3 now (it is far newer watch with newer hardware) if your budget allows it. If not, then of course, Hwatch is a superb smartwatch, if you can find one for around 150eur.
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I have both Hwatch and ZW3, but I advise you rather buy ZW3 now (it is far newer watch with newer hardware) if your budget allows it. If not, then of course, Hwatch is a superb smartwatch, if you can find one for around 150eur.
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I disagree, the ZW3 has no hear rate sensor, ugly protruding buttons and proprietary straps. The only plus is the ambient light sensor without a flat tyre
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I disagree, the ZW3 has no hear rate sensor, ugly protruding buttons and proprietary straps. The only plus is the ambient light sensor without a flat tyre
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LOL own one and then say something..
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LOL own one and then say something..
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Why would owning the watch change any of the facts that he just listed?
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Why would owning the watch change any of the facts that he just listed?
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Naahh, nevermind
I ordered a Huawei Watch from Amazon and had a play, and have sent it back but may buy one again if the prices drop. It was the silver version and I would definitely want the black version. So I am keeping my eye out for deals on those. This watch is about as big as I would want to go, ideally a bit smaller.
I only played for a couple of hours and it seemed ok. The only thing I did notice, but didn't investigate too much, is that even on dim mode some of the watch faces were really bright.
I work nights and would want the watch to be stealthy at night. Is there a way to get the face really dim but still visible or is it a case of having to have the screen off? Hopefully that makes sense!
I also like the look of the LG Style (titanium) which from what I can gather is a bit smaller but has far less features. Is there anything else that might suit my needs? I may also just go for another Gshock for a few years and see how the smartwatches continue to pan out.
huawei watch 1 or zenwatch 3 ????
i love the huawei watch but zenwatch looks promising too !!!!
umair shaikh said:
huawei watch 1 or zenwatch 3 ????
i love the huawei watch but zenwatch looks promising too !!!!
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Zenwatch 3 for the style and new CPU, if you dont need heart rate sensor.
Hwatch is cheaper tho. Its all about preferences.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Asus ZenFone 3 Zoom, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Asus ZenFone 3 Zoom is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I wanted a stable, smooth phone with a super long battery life. This is it!
Coming from the Galaxy Note 3, this phone is an improvement in every way.
Everything except durability.
Just got this phone a few days ago, LOVE IT.
I really like the ZenMotion stuff too, usually I'd have to root to get stuff like that on other devices.
I dumped my old S5 for this phone back in August '17... it's been the best phone that I've owned to date.
Never regretted getting it, I liked the long battery life and it's good photography.
For $300.00 its a Fantastic Device
Coming from a Nexus 5x that broke while out of town on Vacation I swung in to make an emergency replacement purchase @best buy.
It was my 3rd choice as the first two were out of stock. I was just going to pick anything similar in size with capacitive touch buttons. No flagships because I hate them all (Pixel 2 & 2XL, Anything Samsung, too many short comings for today's devices pushing up on the $1000.00 window)
So, being in a hurry I walked out with the Asus Zenfone 3 Zoom which I have never even heard of. I see its marshmallow and I sunk a little but in a few days I was on Oreo. Dang! OK!
Then I read of white line issues so I'm rolling the dice but its a late production model and so far so good since 5/1/2018 of heavy use and several updates.
But.......... Over the 5x - Call quality and signal strength , WiFi reception, and speaker volume screen brightness in the sun all CRUSH the 5x. Battery Life Is Unreal!
I have my complaints over the out dated 5x although they are minor to a degree,
Slower fingerprint reader (sometimes)
Sometimes a back button lag (rarely)
Slippery when carrying naked (I put a Xiaomi Skin on it)
After Oreo if a memory card is inserted the finger print reader gets slower.
This is going to hold me over while I wait for the Pixel 3, I waited for the OnePlus 6, HTC U12 Plus, and am not impressed. But for $300.00 in the Zenphone 3 Zoom I am.
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Coming from a Nexus 5x that broke while out of town on Vacation I swung in to make an emergency replacement purchase @best buy.
It was my 3rd choice as the first two were out of stock. I was just going to pick anything similar in size with capacitive touch buttons. No flagships because I hate them all (Pixel 2 & 2XL, Anything Samsung, too many short comings for today's devices pushing up on the $1000.00 window)
So, being in a hurry I walked out with the Asus Zenfone 3 Zoom which I have never even heard of. I see its marshmallow and I sunk a little but in a few days I was on Oreo. Dang! OK!
Then I read of white line issues so I'm rolling the dice but its a late production model and so far so good since 5/1/2018 of heavy use and several updates.
But.......... Over the 5x - Call quality and signal strength , WiFi reception, and speaker volume screen brightness in the sun all CRUSH the 5x. Battery Life Is Unreal!
I have my complaints over the out dated 5x although they are minor to a degree,
Slower fingerprint reader (sometimes)
Sometimes a back button lag (rarely)
Slippery when carrying naked (I put a Xiaomi Skin on it)
After Oreo if a memory card is inserted the finger print reader gets slower.
This is going to hold me over while I wait for the Pixel 3, I waited for the OnePlus 6, HTC U12 Plus, and am not impressed. But for $300.00 in the Zenphone 3 Zoom I am.
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Holy sh*t, great post man. I dont need a zenfone 3 zoom but i kinda want one for the EPIC RUN TIME(Pocketnow review) lol. If its served you well and you really like why would you already consider replacing it with the pixel 3? Just curious..
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No flagships because I hate them all (Pixel 2 & 2XL, Anything Samsung, too many short comings for today's devices pushing up on the $1000.00 window)
This is going to hold me over while I wait for the Pixel 3, I waited for the OnePlus 6, HTC U12 Plus, and am not impressed. But for $300.00 in the Zenphone 3 Zoom I am.
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May I ask you to elaborate a bit further regarding the above statements? I believe I'm missing something, as my interpretation of them currently, is something like if I said, "I hate anything with nuts in it, peanuts, almonds, cashew, ect... I'll never eat anything made with them in it. BTW, since you didn't wanna share yours earlier, can you grab me a king size, Reese's PB cup and an almond Snickers bar, on your way back? I suddenly got the munchies.."
Heh, You lost me too. Update on the Zenfone 3 Zoom, it got wet and the screen and/or digitizer needs to be replaced. It boots to the pin screen but is unresponsive to touches.
The ONLY 2 complaints I have on the device is when you insert an SDCard in the expansion slot the phone developes lag, especially when unlocking via finger print. This is with a Sandisk Ultra. And like most devices these days its slippery to hold.
Keep in mind I am a google android & nexus fan boy since their releases. Wanting to upgrade from the 5x I was let down by the google pixel price hikes and the newer ones with screen burn and color issues and lousy speakers. Seems Google is getting into greed and feature hype marketing. Yes they have a great camera but who cares. Not me anyway. I'm a semi pro photographer and know whats going on there.
Samsung no unlocking boot loader and root and android butchering. Overpriced and form over function as in being slippery, easy to damage glass, and the wrap around screens most of my friends complain about.
The HTC U12, Dahum! What a monster of a great device but for the BUTTONS! The hardware and features in this phone are the max but they committed suicide by button! I have handled one with the so-called button fix and its still less than sure footed. Enough for me to avoid the purchase.
Oneplus 6, Caugh! Ahem! Back Stroke! Choking on a little Crow, I have one now 8GB RAM - 128GB still within the 15 day trial and have been converted. I love this thing so far. The boot-loader is unlocked, rooted via Magisk running EX Kernel. The device is a performance beast with a great camera.
Yes slippery glass, I have a dbrand dragon skin on it that helps a little, not much, but better, I use their flip case on the job and its great, I chose it over the 6t for the rear FPS & HPjack. I have ear bud sets I don't want to abandon although a USB-c set works via enabling OTG in settings.
Yes coming from the 5x most any new phone is going to be a night and day performance experience but now my upgrade dilemma is over.

Question Worth back to Fold 4 from S23U or wait to Fold 5?

Hi everyone.
I am still user Fold 2 from 2 years, before was N9>N20U. Previous year I bought S22U which from 7 months now my girlfriend have and I back to my Fold 2.
I was happy with him but want try again back to Note sereis with S23U.
This is great device, excellent battery life, cameras but from 7 days back to F2 for fun (still good power with S865+ and not bad battery life for me) and back again to S23U is hard. Foldable screen is great feature which I use with pleasure.
S pen use from time to time. I know about s pen and case for it to F4 but I don't have experience with convenience this solution - especially carry in jeans pocket this brick.
Now I don't know what will can do... Wait to 2024 after Fold 5 for good come on the market?
It's hard to me sell only 2 months old S23U.
Or maybe don't tired with s23u and replace it for F4?
F2 cover screen is narrow but F4 have little wider and easy use with one hand.
Maybe is here user above both devices and can advice me?
Wait, just in case.
Depends on your local price? I got the Fold4 three weeks ago. Not because I think it is the better device, but because I got it at 50% the price and I highly doubt the new stuff in Fold5 will make it worth double.
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Depends on your local price? I got the Fold4 three weeks ago. Not because I think it is the better device, but because I got it at 50% the price and I highly doubt the new stuff in Fold5 will make it worth double.
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In guarantee shops still almost 3/4 start price for new and 2/3 for outlet so still high in my country like Poland.
My fold 2 2 years ago bought for 55% start price for new.
So thanks for advice. Maybe when I found discount similar to situation with F2, then worth buy it but if not, so easy wait for coming to market F5
Yeah. And perhaps even check out the pixel fold being presented on wednesday? The wider front screen seems nice
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Yeah. And perhaps even check out the pixel fold being presented on wednesday? The wider front screen seems nice
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Yes, good proposal. Unfortunately Pixel fold mybe is intersting but it's not for me because this is first fold from pixel and like usually will be a lot of bugs in for example construction or software.
I need device for work so need rely in my device in every situation.
Moreover I very like samsung Ui, which is for me very intuitive. I had Pixel 4XL and after almost 2 years I don't get used clean android. My last clean was Nexus 4 (but I liked this) and next only Galaxy Note series for today.
In pixel fold front screen looks nice but interal have very thick frames and not look good.
And what most important in Poland pixel series isn't official accessible so are issues with purchase and respect guarantee.
We had issues with Nexus/Pixels not being here in Denmark officially too, for a very long time.
I have used iPhone since 2008, but have had Samsung mobiles at the same time too, ever since Note 1 was released. Didnt enjoy the tiny 3.5” of the iPhones and that is about the same reason I have a Fold now. Apple is just doing everything they can to save money, by selling antiquated hardware…
At some point Samsung decided that Denmark didnt need the Note series anymore, so I more or less stopped buying from them.
My number one issue with Fold4 is the narrow front screen, and that it for that reason unfolds to a square, instead of landscape. But very nice device, besides from that. And yes, I actually think they made the right choice with the cam underneeth the inner screen. Neither screen nor cam is perfect, but a good compromise.
Think you could be right, that first gen folding from Google could have issues. Good point.
I'll be honest. I had the zfold 4 and then tried out the S23U for a couple months. Only two things I loved were the camera setup and the screen size (quite different than the ZF4 outer screen), but overall, I went back to the ZF4 as it provides a better work tool I got quite used to the form factor and the inside display is a treat to use once you learn all the tricks
Thanks for replies. I like S23U, this is great device but overall is booring.
Fold series give me more fun and look difference compare to other devices.
Now I looking for good pricing F4 and still wait for F5.
I need for daily use 2 simcard and sometimes swap my private simcard to old F2 which still have.
I consider buy F3 because is for good price in my country but shapes, especially front screen are very similar to my F2. Only difference is S Pen support and this is too little
I have a F4. Im with Fold since F2. Meanwhile I have tried a couple of ..Pro and ...Ultra devices but like you said all they become boring to me for a couple of days in use. And more important - super uncomfortable because I carry my phone always in the pants pocket. For me the comfort of use is more important than all. Fold is a Transformer. Stage 1 - one hand super friendly. Stage 2 - mutimedia and multitasking beast like no other. I think I cant go back to a bar phone. I have tried with the bests on the market but no chance.
I have both the ZF4 and S23U. The S23U is totally boring next to the ZF4 other than the cameras (which is the only reason I have/keep the S23U). Also, the S23U is super wide and not comfortable to hold (if you have "normal" hands). Even though the S23U has the SD 8 Gen 2, you don't really notice the difference in day to day use. So, ZF4 remains my daily driver, I'm not planning to get the ZF5. If you can swing it, you'll probably be able to trade the S23U for a ZF5 at a great value. Otherwise, get a deeply discounted ZF4 and sell your S23U.

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