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Today i see someone succesfully boot Android N on Xperia L. Which is Xperia L has a same proccesor with Redmi 1S (snapdragon 400) Maybe we can port the ROM into our device. What do you guys think about?
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As far as I could gather, yes, it is possible to get Nougat.
Things we will NOT GET, because of the GPU we have are: OpenGL 3.1 / Vulkan. Those two are only embedded in Adreno 400 and upwards.
This would mean that there is a chance for problems with games that might migrate above OpenGL 3.0 (which we have).
As far as I'm aware, the differences between 3.1 and 3.0 are in the addition of new libraries, so if the game needs those new libraries 100% and doesn't offer a fallback option, we won't be able to play them.

FortoszoneID said:
Today i see someone succesfully boot Android N on Xperia L. Which is Xperia L has a same proccesor with Redmi 1S (snapdragon 400) Maybe we can port the ROM into our device. What do you guys think about?
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Xperia L is different but Moto G 2013 is same as our device & CM14 unofficial is out, so we are getting it soon

simuhnck said:
Xperia L is different but Moto G 2013 is same as our device & CM14 unofficial is out, so we are getting it soon
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Yeah i also see cm14 unofficial for Peregrine

hope so

Redmi1s won't get any more
Actually not a problem of xiaomi but of **** Google.
This is Android (and OEMs and Qualcomm) not looking far ahead to support devices. They don’t care about customers. After sale support non-existent.
Why is Apple able to support iPhone 5s (same age as Nexus 5) with iOS 10 and later? Because Apple made it compatible with METAL apk from day 1. Because it has hardware encryption since day 1.
Why is Apple able to support iPhone 5 (4 years old) with iOS 10? Because Apple is willing to!!! IPhone 5 does not support METAL nor does it have ARMv8 chip…yet iPhone 5 is getting iOS 10…minus raise to speak to Siri…it is getting 99% of iOS 10 features.
Remember, major software updates also bring with it security features beyond “monthly patches.”
So, with all the resources of software (Google) and hardware (OEM’s and Qualcomm), Android cannot support Nexu 5 and the likes?! It is like buying a laptop (since most phones cost the same) and can only use it for 2 years. That’s insane!
When will Android community wake up and demand more? Google, OEMs, and Qualcomm will only listen if money talks.
And it is this crap that explains horrible re-sale value of Android flagships!

Why Custom Rom development is totally off??

Almost all custom Roms are not even updated since last year. The custom Rom or Android development for Honor 8 Pro is totally off? Why is that?
Even after oreo release, feels like no one interested.
update: Honor released kernel source for honor 8 pro
https://www.xda-developers.com/honor-8-pro-honor-9-android-oreo-kernel-source/

personally, i feel that this is due to the fact that:
* many are happy for stock ROM
* stock ROM has got a lot of features and options for all sorts of ppl
* in terms of optmisation and efficiency, modern day version of Android don't really drain that much.
* battery tech has improved and we see phones packing bigger battery. so, ppl no longer than concerned abt battery life
* limited user-base -- so ROM developers are better off spending their time on phones with larger user-base, thus getting better feedback and attention

mydragoon said:
personally, i feel that this is due to the fact that:
* many are happy for stock ROM
* stock ROM has got a lot of features and options for all sorts of ppl
* in terms of optmisation and efficiency, modern day version of Android don't really drain that much.
* battery tech has improved and we see phones packing bigger battery. so, ppl no longer than concerned abt battery life
* limited user-base -- so ROM developers are better off spending their time on phones with larger user-base, thus getting better feedback and attention
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You are right, Thanks.
Just After honor ditch us, no chance of Getting future android experience ?

Honor left honor 8 pro.
Honor is fully focused on AI based honor view 10, the selected developer were given free honor view 10 handsets for its support and development of rom's in future. Honor has ditched the honor 8 pro.
The developers started working on honor view 10 and developed treble lineage os 15.1 rom based on Oreo 8.1 for kirin 970 devices.
Even the magisk and substrantum support is given for honor view 10.
I think this is my last honor device ??.

mukeshreddy1994 said:
Honor is fully focused on AI based honor view 10, the selected developer were given free honor view 10 handsets for its support and development of rom's in future. Honor has ditched the honor 8 pro.
The developers started working on honor view 10 and developed treble lineage os 15.1 rom based on Oreo 8.1 for kirin 970 devices.
Even the magisk and substrantum support is given for honor view 10.
I think this is my last honor device .
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personally, i dun expect much since honor 8 Pro is a one year old device (using China's V9 as the actual launch). honor already launched a replacement device and if they actually continue to promote older device, then there's something not right with their strategy. so, it's only right that they get support for newer device instead, which is the View 10.
and the Q is... do i need custom rom? nope. i dun think i need it. and do i think it's needed for even View 10? nope... dun think it's needed.
many reasons why i dun think custom rom needed is in my first reply above.

mydragoon said:
personally, i dun expect much since honor 8 Pro is a one year old device (using China's V9 as the actual launch). honor already launched a replacement device and if they actually continue to promote older device, then there's something not right with their strategy. so, it's only right that they get support for newer device instead, which is the View 10.
and the Q is... do i need custom rom? nope. i dun think i need it. and do i think it's needed for even View 10? nope... dun think it's needed.
many reasons why i dun think custom rom needed is in my first reply above.
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I heard yesterday, Honor had removed Kernal sources for Honor 8 pro(or V9)[after its launched] that's a big problem also for custom roms.
Even in their own website the stock firmware is not available, no even it's name.
Stock rom might ne good, but Many people seeks for Future taste of Android. Honor already ditch us, The only way we could have taste Android p or Android Q using custom roms and now that also not possible.
Where as they are making sure Honor view 10 get erd party development supports.

[email protected] said:
I heard yesterday, Honor had removed Kernal sources for Honor 8 pro(or V9)[after its launched] that's a big problem also for custom roms.
Even in their own website the stock firmware is not available, no even it's name.
Stock rom might ne good, but Many people seeks for Future taste of Android. Honor already ditch us, The only way we could have taste Android p or Android Q using custom roms and now that also not possible.
Where as they are making sure Honor view 10 get erd party development supports.
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i bought the honor 8 Pro because it is a good phone. great specs at affordable price. i din get it so i could get the latest version of Android. to me, so long as it works and it's patched (and while it's inconsistent but the updates have been coming from Honor), i'm fine with it.
and based on the above, honor 8 Pro is still a good phone. i don't really care about the latest Android version. what is more important is that i'm using the smartphone for what it can do -- connecting me. and it's doing a great job at that.

mydragoon said:
i bought the honor 8 Pro because it is a good phone. great specs at affordable price. i din get it so i could get the latest version of Android. to me, so long as it works and it's patched (and while it's inconsistent but the updates have been coming from Honor), i'm fine with it.
and based on the above, honor 8 Pro is still a good phone. i don't really care about the latest Android version. what is more important is that i'm using the smartphone for what it can do -- connecting me. and it's doing a great job at that.
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U r right, It will still be a very good phone with good specs nod doubt.
Everyone has their own view.
Some people's like custom development.
And Huawei doing open source for view 10 and removing 8pro(v9)'s kernal sources is really disappointing.

When honor8pro was launched, Huawei/Honor out up a show like this is device is going to get all the required attention and care. Instead they struggled with patches itself. Not even updates, fhey couldn't make working patches.
They looked for market and found one. That's it. US market is unreachable at least for an year or two, so a new strategy is to push as many devices as they can in current markets while lobbying for US market.
Honor tried or picturized a Xiaomi like strategy but went Samsung ish. Hardware wise 8pro is matchless in its tier but then there isn't much you can boast about it on realtime usage. They nerfed battery when some issues started its that bad.
It's a compromise device that has been further compromised. I feel honor is a sinking ship. They're severely dependent on marketing than letting phones prove themselves. They have paid Android authority and even Xda well to keep featuring posts or reviews about their phones. So that neo nerds or spec hungry guys can devour these devices and guys like these are usually the ones that are looked up or called up by less nerdy or less tech literates for their next best phone.
Such fake image doesn't hold long and easily shatters. Just like one plus which promised big things and promised support and longevity unlike google... and then just ditched all that, Honor too promised devices with better specs and better support but well... at this rate honor 10view will bite the dust soon as well, or if things keep going bad for honor/Huawei they might loop back.
Only time will tell. But for now it sure is bleak for Honor8pro. There isn't a way to jump to custom roms either. So when **** hits the cieling this phone will be a glorified remote control.

In Nutshell, most of us in india got this device with buyback from flipkart, 1st week march that awaited period start. Time to switch back to some soft-support team with decent hardware, ASAP. My bid is back to moto. whats others planning ?
Regards,

sunilnair007 said:
In Nutshell, most of us in india got this device with buyback from flipkart, 1st week march that awaited period start. Time to switch back to some soft-support team with decent hardware, ASAP. My bid is back to moto. whats others planning ?
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I didn't took buyback guarantee ?:crying:

Honor 8 pro is the most neglected so called "Flagship killer" of 2017/18.
Shortly after the release of 8 pro, they had taken down all official firmware sources.
View 10 is view 10 all over the globe. 8 pro is just a 128 GB variant of V9. So it has been completely neglected.
When Honor was questioned as to why firmware sources were removed, they gave a dumb reply saying it was HQ decision and they have least control over it.
This is like being in Apple ecosystem. Very sad to see such a potential device being neglected completely.
Honor has suddenly started focusing on lower budget segment in India after 8 pro's launch. Devices like 9 lite are starting to see updates for Face Unlock and yester year Flagship 8 pro is still with buggy Oreo update which they cannot fix.

amulbaby said:
Honor 8 pro is the most neglected so called "Flagship killer" of 2017/18.
Shortly after the release of 8 pro, they had taken down all official firmware sources.
View 10 is view 10 all over the globe. 8 pro is just a 128 GB variant of V9. So it has been completely neglected.
When Honor was questioned as to why firmware sources were removed, they gave a dumb reply saying it was HQ decision and they have least control over it.
This is like being in Apple ecosystem. Very sad to see such a potential device being neglected completely.
Honor has suddenly started focusing on lower budget segment in India after 8 pro's launch. Devices like 9 lite are starting to see updates for Face Unlock and yester year Flagship 8 pro is still with buggy Oreo update which they cannot fix.
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Honor is a dumb ass!! ?

Go to honor view 10 thread and flash RR OS. Works flawlessly on honor 8 pro. Just some glitches here and there. What custom ROM support do you guys want more?

kumar akarsh said:
Go to honor view 10 thread and flash RR OS. Works flawlessly on honor 8 pro. Just some glitches here and there. What custom ROM support do you guys want more?
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How is it working?
Is it because of project treble support?,

[email protected] said:
How is it working?
Is it because of project treble support?,
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its working quite good for me. yes it is because of treble.

kumar akarsh said:
its working quite good for me. yes it is because of treble.
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Then maybe With a bit of modification developers can port those rom to H8p.
Just No one will be interested:crying:

[email protected] said:
Then maybe With a bit of modification developers can port those rom to H8p.
Just No one will be interested:crying:
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lol. why port an already working ROM. it works like a charm with only few issues:
1. some animations are choppy(doesn't concern me much)
2. no volte(i don't need it)
3. no stock camera(will be added soon)
4. minor graphical glitches. (doesn't affect the overall interface)

kumar akarsh said:
lol. why port an already working ROM. it works like a charm with only few issues:
1. some animations are choppy(doesn't concern me much)
2. no volte(i don't need it)
3. no stock camera(will be added soon)
4. minor graphical glitches. (doesn't affect the overall interface)
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VOLTE is a big concern for me. Atleast in India.
Ok, lets not call it port----, fixing those glitches.
And jst turn of animation scale?, no problem of transitions.

[email protected] said:
VOLTE is a big concern for me. Atleast in India.
Ok, lets not call it port----, fixing those glitches.
And jst turn of animation scale, no problem of transitions.
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next aosp build by oldDroid will be much stable. but volte will take some time. we now have same rates on all operators. switch to some other.

Is Treble Overhyped? Unpopular opinion

Everyone seemed to be pretty excited about the 7x/Mate SE to have treble support. We have oreo and confirmed treble support. But what now? It seems like it doesn't really matter. Not that many roms being ported over. So whats up? Is treble support overhyped?

sfastudent said:
Everyone seemed to be pretty excited about the 7x/Mate SE to have treble support. We have oreo and confirmed treble support. But what now? It seems like it doesn't really matter. Not that many roms being ported over. So whats up? Is treble support overhyped?
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I think Huawei has updated a grand total of 31 phones across all the variants.

sfastudent said:
Everyone seemed to be pretty excited about the 7x/Mate SE to have treble support. We have oreo and confirmed treble support. But what now? It seems like it doesn't really matter. Not that many roms being ported over. So whats up? Is treble support overhyped?
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IMO.. Treble is more "Vendor-Friendly" than "User-Friendly" .
There is so much to dissect when it comes to the 7x.. why has Honor not released Nougat Firmware? this device was announced October of 17' and released December of 17'.. yet nothing.
Why did they *really* pull the bootloader-unlock page..
I'm sure, you'll see the Carbon, Linage, RR ROM's officially ported over eventually.. But you will not see the good old fashion "Developer Support" with the 7x. I mean not just ports but Kernel development.. and to be honest,
That's where you speed increases, better battery life, user-adjustable governors and features come from.. more so than any port is going to afford you.
That's where the 7x and it's Kirin Engine fall short.
Take a look at Moto G5 Plus thread ( I had one of those but @ 5.2 inches I did not like the screen size ) and just look at the development the Snapdragon 625 has gotten.. Even the Snapdragon 636 is already seeing a lot of love.. and seems like the perfect Price / Performance Engine for 2018.
The 7x is a good device.. just not a popular one.

Ported rom Android 9 from official firmware a720s to a520f and a720f?

Is there any expert programmer who can make ported stock rom pie from samsung a720s official firmware,for a520f and a720f?
The hardware of the a720s is the same as the a720f, it's just a matter of who has the time, knowledge and willto make. Because we all want 9 on our phones. .

Alchajmer said:
Is there any expert programmer who can make ported stock rom pie from samsung a720s official firmware,for a520f and a720f?
The hardware of the a720s is the same as the a720f, it's just a matter of who has the time, knowledge and willto make. Because we all want 9 on our phones. .
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Hadesrom is made from an a8 base with a720s fixes in it and is basically identical.

SnowFuhrer said:
Hadesrom is made from an a8 base with a720s fixes in it and is basically identical.
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A8 and a720s are not the same.A8 has Exynos 7885 and a720s Exynos 7880.A8 has 4gb ram, while a720s has 3gb ram.A8 has Mali-G71 GPU while a720s carries Mali-T830MP3.Hardware a720s is identical to a720f.A8 is not nearly as similar in hardware, which is one of the reasons why the Hades rom doesn't work completely without bugs, as much as the programmer tried. After a few days, it slows down. That's why the programmer gave up further updates and closed the thread. I ask, do any of the programmers know how to port rom from a720s for a520f and a720f?

Relax, eventually we will get something

Guys really, you are just so dumb. Having developers around like Corsi or Option58 is a dream for a big part of the XDA community. Imagine that no one is developing for Ax 2017, with what you eventually end? Stock oreo ROM and only it. No Lineage, no Pie, nothing.
Just wanted to remind you that everything related to AOSP is possible thanks to RaymanFX, and you pissed him off a long time ago. I'm ashamed about that part of the community, OP, think a while, just think. Are you sure that you have more knowledge than people making such things? I bet that you ever can't compile LineageOS from sources with a tutorial.
I sorry so much for Corsicanu, he spent an enormous amount of time to deliver you butter smooth stock roms, make the stable pie even possible, release professional kernel and the only thing he received for that is complaining and calling him stupid.
I'm less and less frequent here, thank you to all active or inactive developers for keeping this phone alive, I wish the best for you and remember, you are doing such a great job and there are still people who appreciate it.
Regards.

@Alchajmer
1. we have an android 9 port already
2. if you don't like them (I guess you do else you wouldn't open this thread) then feel free to port your own android 9 rom. if you don't know how then search on xda. there a plenty of guides about porting roms.
3 finally read this post please. I hope this will change your opinion about porting A720S to our devices.
And no the progammer did not close his thread because of the A8 port is "slowing down" the performance, he closed it because a lot of people requested (and even keep requesting) an A720s pie based port in his thread (check last posts) like you did here.

Did corsicanu confirmed that a720s rom cant be ported to a520/a720f or you guys are just guessing?
Let the man work when he has time thats it...

Hades rom works fantastic on my a520f. For all his honor. But after a few days everything slows down. Why? I don't know. It's like he's running out of memory. For example, the calculator needs a second or two. So I asked if there was a minimum chance of porting rom to the a520 / 720f from the A720s. I'm not a programmer, but I've been using custom roms for a long time to know if the phones match the hardware, there's a chance for porting. I'm not saying that it has to be tomorrow, but when the developer has time

[Q] Would it even be possible to port Android 12 to the Samsung Galaxy Nexus?

Seeing how even the Samsung Galaxy S II has gotten a port of LineageOS 12, I wondered if there's anything that would prevent the Galaxy Nexus from getting it as well.
A developer already told me privately that it would be theoretically possible and that it would probably be better off with Android Go settings, but I wondered if there could be anything else that might prevent it. Because I see little discussion about this phone and I've seen no Custom Roms that go beyond Android 7.1 Nougat.
As a smartphone of the Nexus line, shouldn't it be even easier to support than something like the Galaxy S II?
I just know that it'd be awesome to see newer Android versions on it, just as with several other older phones that already got them.

Are you serious??? There is no way Galaxy Nexus can run Android 12. Even when this phone run on Android 7.1.2 (latest custom rom) it run poor and gets hot quickly, so i don't think anyone will build any custom rom for this device.

alprtewwqfr said:
Are you serious??? There is no way Galaxy Nexus can run Android 12. Even when this phone run on Android 7.1.2 (latest custom rom) it run poor and gets hot quickly, so i don't think anyone will build any custom rom for this device.
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I'm just curious whether it is possible or not. The Samsung Galaxy S II seems to be able to do it, even though it's still in an early phase.

"As a smartphone of the Nexus line, shouldn't it be even easier to support than something like the Galaxy S II?"
for ti Omap chipset it isnt really easy to port twrp or lineage 19.0
"A developer already told me privately that it would be theoretically possible and that it would probably be better off with Android Go settings,"
no, you don't bringup and you can't make android 12 for this device. remember TI OMAP processors are close source afaik. and android 7 on this device RUNS VERY POORLY. so it's impossible to port a12 on this device, unless you try to port LOS 15.0 first.

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Oreo actually runs way better than Nougat, at least with the holy kernel 3.4.

Can someone port Lineage OS 15.1 for the Galaxy Nexus maguro?

Don't forget, Android 12 (as well as 11, possibly also 10) is 64 bit only.

siealex said:
Don't forget, Android 12 (as well as 11, possibly also 10) is 64 bit only.
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That's not right, we are running A11, A12 and A13 on many other arm chipsets like the Samsung Galaxy S2, Samsung Galaxy S3 and also many others...

Yes, it can be compiled for these chipsets, but will it be compatible with new software?

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Yes, it can be compiled for these chipsets, but will it be compatible with new software?
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Yep, everything seems to work fine .

its theoretically possible, the omap 4460 is armv7 and has over a gig of ram, which are the bare minimum system requirements for running android 12.
however, it would be a major undertaking to port the crusty code over to android 12 AND it would run like garbage, unless someone were to try and speed up that code, which would be a whole other story.
if the community had continued like it had on the galaxy s2, this wouldve already happened, but it didnt for likely many reasons.
im guessing one of those is the lack of mainline linux support, which is because of the SGX540 in this phone.