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Will I be able to apply/receive software updates when root enabled?

Will I be able to apply/receive software updates when root enabled? I am worried that I won't be able to apply google updates once root enable, is this an issue? Is there a workaround?
Thanks!
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geocine said:
Will I be able to apply/receive software updates when root enabled? I am worried that I won't be able to apply google updates once root enable, is this an issue? Is there a workaround?
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If you install the simple fix here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44597339#post44597339
You can install future OTAs successfully and keep root.

geocine said:
Will I be able to apply/receive software updates when root enabled? I am worried that I won't be able to apply google updates once root enable, is this an issue? Is there a workaround?
Thanks!
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Just rooting doesn't prevent updates. You just lose root and have to reapply after update.
Custom recovery means you probably need to download the update file and apply it via the recovery instead of the automatic updater.
Changing or removing system files will almost definitely prevent updates being applied.
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gbroon said:
Just rooting doesn't prevent updates. You just lose root and have to reapply after update.
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Actually I was surprised also, but SuperSU does prevent the OTA from completing successfully.
Read the referenced link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44597339#post44597339

I JUST did this. I had TWRP and rooted. I has 15J. Booted my nandroid. Downloaded the 15Q update, restarted to install. TWRP caught the stock image and flashed it.
Then I booted into 15Q. I lost root and TWRP. Flashed over TWRP through fastboot and rooted.
No issues.
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player911 said:
I JUST did this. I had TWRP and rooted. I has 15J. Booted my nandroid. Downloaded the 15Q update, restarted to install. TWRP caught the stock image and flashed it.
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Are you rooted using SuperSU, what version, and can I examine the zip file.

Thanks guys, actually I haven't rooted this device yet. Because I am still reading on stuff here on xda how to do it the right way and the links you posted
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sfhub said:
If you install the simple fix here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44597339#post44597339
You can install future OTAs successfully and keep root.
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hi sfhub, do I need to do
fastboot oem unlock
before doing
fastboot boot twrp.img ?

I've been rooted since day one and gotten ota updates fine.
I use twrp and just make sure to flash supersu each time and call it good. Not a single problem on my end.
Even still if you bork it just flash factory image. It's pretty simple to get out of a pinch. But rooting and ota should work fine as long as you keep stock image. Just reflash supersu each time and you're good to go.
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geocine said:
hi sfhub, do I need to do
fastboot oem unlock
before doing
fastboot boot twrp.img ?
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If you aren't already unlocked then, yes.
Most people will already be unlocked though if they are rooted.
fastboot oem unlock process will force a factory reset for security purposes so backup anything important.

sfhub said:
If you aren't already unlocked then, yes.
Most people will already be unlocked though if they are rooted.
fastboot oem unlock process will force a factory reset for security purposes so backup anything important.
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I haven't rooted my device yet , I am on all stock. Does 'fastboot boot' just loads the twrp image and not flash it?
How will I be able to backup stuff, are there any other options aside from titanium backup that requires root .
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geocine said:
I haven't rooted my device yet , I am on all stock. Does 'fastboot boot' just loads the twrp image and not flash it?
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Yes.
geocine said:
How will I be able to backup stuff, are there any other options aside from titanium backup that requires root .
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There are some backup apps that don't need root, but probably need to restore.
You can also try adb backup, but it may not backup 100% of your stuff.
I'm not the best person to ask on the backup as I always unlock before I do most of the software installs just so I can avoid losing customizations later on.

sfhub said:
Yes.
There are some backup apps that don't need root, but probably need to restore.
You can also try adb backup, but it may not backup 100% of your stuff.
I'm not the best person to ask on the backup as I always unlock before I do most of the software installs just so I can avoid losing customizations later on.
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Thanks, I am currently backing up using adb., a non 100% backup is better than no backup at all. I hate redoing things.

sfhub said:
Yes.
There are some backup apps that don't need root, but probably need to restore.
You can also try adb backup, but it may not backup 100% of your stuff.
I'm not the best person to ask on the backup as I always unlock before I do most of the software installs just so I can avoid losing customizations later on.
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While we are it, I just want to ask if it is also possible to bring back the bootloader to a locked state. thanks.

geocine said:
While we are it, I just want to ask if it is also possible to bring back the bootloader to a locked state. thanks.
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Yes, very simple, just type
fastboot oem lock
I would advise against doing so unless you plan to return the unit though, as if you ever need to do stuff to your system (even factory restore) then you'd need to unlock again, which would factory reset again.

sfhub said:
If you install the simple fix here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44597339#post44597339
You can install future OTAs successfully and keep root.
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Here is a post from sfhub
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geocine said:
Here is a post from sfhub
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BTW the author of SuperSU recently implemented the change I made so starting in v1.55 the separate fix is no longer necessary.

sfhub said:
BTW the author of SuperSU recently implemented the change I made so starting in v1.55 the separate fix is no longer necessary.
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The 1.55 update doesn't appear to want to install properly for me from Google Play. Is this an issue of having the OTA fix installed?
Nevermind...i guess i needed to reboot...but, this does beg the question, is there anything related to the OTA fix that needs to be "uninstalled" in general?

The Holocron said:
Nevermind...i guess i needed to reboot...but, this does beg the question, is there anything related to the OTA fix that needs to be "uninstalled" in general?
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No, there is nothing to uninstall. It is very clean.

sfhub said:
BTW the author of SuperSU recently implemented the change I made so starting in v1.55 the separate fix is no longer necessary.
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Is there anything I should do if I already have your fix installed?
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Question about ROOT

Hello,
I'am on rom stock, no custom recovery and bootloader locked.
If I root my OP3, will I still receive rom stock updates and will I still install this updates like before ?
Thanks.

No. if u root you wont get updates
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Uh okay. It's embarassing..
In this case how get update ?

doums_ said:
Uh okay. It's embarassing..
In this case how get update ?
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Via incremental updates, flash it through TWRP recovery

And it's the officials updates ?

Yep, download from the oneplus website and flash
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ptoner said:
Yep, download from the oneplus website and flash
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Ok thanks all !

Sorry to hijack the thread.
Can someone tell me whether you can still use Android pay after you root?
Thanks.
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As long as you don't install xposed I think you are OK.
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Thanks for that ptoner
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doums_ said:
Hello,
I'am on rom stock, no custom recovery and bootloader locked.
If I root my OP3, will I still receive rom stock updates and will I still install this updates like before ?
Thanks.
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You have to unlock the bootloader too. Unblocking the bootloader will wipe your device.
As a rule of thumb, I always unlock bootloader on day one of purchasing my devices. (mostly Nexus or OP so far). This way you avoid potentially losing data.

Or u can download systemless xposed which will allow to turn on and off to use Android pay

Bradl79 said:
Or u can download systemless xposed which will allow to turn on and off to use Android pay
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You'll still have to reboot each time to use it

2x4 said:
You'll still have to reboot each time to use it
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What is the problem with Android pay with rooted device ? (I have never used Android pay and I dont know this app)

doums_ said:
What is the problem with Android pay with rooted device ? (I have never used Android pay and I dont know this app)
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With rooted it can work in certain conditions.
With xposed it cannot if it is active

2x4 said:
With rooted it can work in certain conditions.
With xposed it cannot if it is active
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Ok, and wath is the best way for rooting my device, xposed or traditional way (unlock bootloader, install TWRP and flash root apk ?)

doums_ said:
Ok, and wath is the best way for rooting my device, xposed or traditional way (unlock bootloader, install TWRP and flash root apk ?)
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root (access) is obtained via apps like SuperSU
xposed has nothing to do with root access - it is an additional framework allowing for low level modifications (like amplify, etc)
unlocking bootloader is always the first step, from there you can flash supersu (which is NOT just an APK file).
there's a number of threads about it that can explain it better than i.

2x4 said:
root (access) is obtained via apps like SuperSU
xposed has nothing to do with root access - it is an additional framework allowing for low level modifications (like amplify, etc)
unlocking bootloader is always the first step, from there you can flash supersu (which is NOT just an APK file).
there's a number of threads about it that can explain it better than i.
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Ok thanks you. I see the threads in OP3 xda forum.
One more question : is the warrantly lost after rooting ?

Google Pay overlay issue?

I am having a hard time finding the culprit for the overlay preventing me from finishing the Google Pay setup. What am I missing? I am on RR.

Have you tried disabling all apps with overlay permissions?

fiffan86 said:
Have you tried disabling all apps with overlay permissions?
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I think so, if I would have known not to install anything with GP it would be much easier now to do.

Scottay5150 said:
I think so, if I would have known not to install anything with GP it would be much easier now to do.
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Are you trying to install google pay while rooted? If so you need to unroot before you install Pay. You will also need to hide Pay from root using magisk hide.
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Scottay5150 said:
I am having a hard time finding the culprit for the overlay preventing me from finishing the Google Pay setup. What am I missing?
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on android P by chance?

uicnren said:
on android P by chance?
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Triscuit said:
Are you trying to install google pay while rooted? If so you need to unroot before you install Pay. You will also need to hide Pay from root using magisk hide.
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I think I installed GP 1st then rooted. I can unroot and see if that is the issue, I know about the hiding in Magisk...

uicnren said:
on android P by chance?
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Negative, RR. How do I unroot?

Scottay5150 said:
Negative, RR. How do I unroot?
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Hit the uninstall button in MM, dirty flash your rom, or run the magisk uninstaller zip :good:

Badger50 said:
Hit the uninstall button in MM, dirty flash your rom, or run the magisk uninstaller zip :good:
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If I run the uninstaller do I have to dirty flash?

Scottay5150 said:
If I run the uninstaller do I have to dirty flash?
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Nope. However, if your just testing to see if your app works without root, I'd dirty flash your rom, then flash twrp again and let it boot up. You won't have root, but all your modules will still be there if you want to root again :good:

Thanks Badger!

Well I disabled all overlays except for Android system because I cannot undo it without root and still having issue with drawing over. Unable to hit the next button after after entering my three digit code and agreeing to the terms and conditions.

Scottay5150 said:
Negative, RR. How do I unroot?
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Flash stock boot.img

relock bootloader

Is there a way to relock bootloader after flashing custom rom. As some app check bootloader as well. Thanks

You relock bootloader with a custom rom you will have a brick on your hands...

orbital_71 said:
Is there a way to relock bootloader after flashing custom rom. As some app check bootloader as well. Thanks
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Nope. Extremely risky let alone stupid. If you want a £1000 paperweight, go right ahead. If they check the bootloader, surely they'd check the flash counter that you just tripped by flashing a custom ROM.
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speedyjay said:
Nope. Extremely risky let alone stupid. If you want a £1000 paperweight, go right ahead. If they check the bootloader, surely they'd check the flash counter that you just tripped by flashing a custom ROM.
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I searched google there is no apps which can help apps from checking bootloader only magisk hide for hiding root. Have u known any apps that can hide bootloader?

orbital_71 said:
Is there a way to relock bootloader after flashing custom rom. As some app check bootloader as well. Thanks
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Magisk should be using resetprop to change the properties to look normal

orbital_71 said:
I searched google there is no apps which can help apps from checking bootloader only magisk hide for hiding root. Have u known any apps that can hide bootloader?
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Magisk resetprop..
It should b setting ro.boot.verifiedbootstate=green ro.boot.warranty_bit=0x0 etc etc to hide the fact bl is unlocked

elliwigy said:
Magisk resetprop..
It should b setting ro.boot.verifiedbootstate=green ro.boot.warranty_bit=0x0 etc etc to hide the fact bl is unlocked
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So in magisk there is setting to do as what u mention or i need to edit build.prop to do it?

orbital_71 said:
So in magisk there is setting to do as what u mention or i need to edit build.prop to do it?
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Lol if u dont understand u should probably just wait for an easier method..
Magisk ALREADY does this specifically so apps cant detect it.. ro.boot props cant be added to normal build.prop as they are props passed by the boot loader.. props can do ro. Properties..
Resetprop is a binary that comes with magisk..
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elliwigy said:
Lol if u dont understand u should probably just wait for an easier method..
Magisk ALREADY does this specifically so apps cant detect it.. ro.boot props cant be added to normal build.prop as they are props passed by the boot loader.. props can do ro. Properties..
Resetprop is a binary that comes with magisk..
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OK thank you very much

edit firmware stock

hi all, I would have a question to ask you since you are more experienced than me .. I would like to know if it is possible to modify an original firmware and then install it via odin so that the guarantee is not affected, such as removing system apps that are not needed to nothing and remove that annoying beep that you hear every time you turn up and down the volume ... thanks to all

homer1005 said:
hi all, I would have a question to ask you since you are more experienced than me .. I would like to know if it is possible to modify an original firmware and then install it via odin so that the guarantee is not affected, such as removing system apps that are not needed to nothing and remove that annoying beep that you hear every time you turn up and down the volume ... thanks to all
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no, you need root

homer1005 said:
hi all, I would have a question to ask you since you are more experienced than me .. I would like to know if it is possible to modify an original firmware and then install it via odin so that the guarantee is not affected, such as removing system apps that are not needed to nothing and remove that annoying beep that you hear every time you turn up and down the volume ... thanks to all
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No it won't work. But you can do it and flash it on via twrp and yes you'll need root.
Many ppl has done that and they call it custom rom.
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vash_h said:
No it won't work. But you can do it and flash it on via twrp and yes you'll need root.
Many ppl has done that and they call it custom rom.
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but twrp and custom roms are not yet available right?

homer1005 said:
but twrp and custom roms are not yet available right?
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If you only delete system app only need ROOT , so you have admin rights to delete it
dont need custom roms, use orginal firmware but less apps ;D

dayl1ght said:
If you only delete system app only need ROOT , so you have admin rights to delete it
dont need custom roms, use orginal firmware but less apps ;D
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Yes but with the root lost the warranty and the banking app don't work

homer1005 said:
Yes but with the root lost the warranty and the banking app don't work
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yes, if you root lost the warranty, but with Banking app maybe a fix to hide the root

dayl1ght said:
yes, if you root lost the warranty, but with Banking app maybe a fix to hide the root
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How do it?

homer1005 said:
How do it?
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don't try to root your new device if you don't used to root...
try before with old device because it is dangerous if you don't know how to do

UNIK97122 said:
don't try to root your new device if you don't used to root...
try before with old device because it is dangerous if you don't know how to do
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I says to hide the root for the banking app

homer1005 said:
I says to hide the root for the banking app
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Magisk Manager
but i don't know if it's ok for S20 series:angel:

UNIK97122 said:
Magisk Manager
but i don't know if it's ok for S20 series:angel:
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I'm wait

Actually it depends on the banking app...
For mine, no matter what I try, banking app is not working on my S20. MagiskHide & co... nothing....
A specific xposed module would probably do the job but I don't have coding skills with Xposed.

homer1005 said:
I'm wait
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yes , need a Kernel with bypass service .
if you root get 0x1 = root , 0x0 = no root , with kernel bypass the 0x1 so get root and 0x0 .
only wait and drink tee

dayl1ght said:
yes , need a Kernel with bypass service .
if you root get 0x1 = root , 0x0 = no root , with kernel bypass the 0x1 so get root and 0x0 .
only wait and drink tee
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can you tell me how to do it?