I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but this is a heads-up that the newly released Pie update for Korea cannot be rolled back. I would be surprised if it doesn't apply to other variants as well.
I saw it in this post by @trouble. in the H930 Pie thread: The update notes include the following:
If you run the update, the security policy will be strengthened and you will not be able to downgrade to the previous version of the software.
So they went ARB1 after all. No more rolling back after this update. I bet that's why they pulled the original Pie update: It always seemed too good to be true that they would leave that barn door open, both because this is the second major OS update and because it's what makes all V30s rootable.
In short: If you care about root, do NOT update with LG Bridge or OTA or the latest KDZ when it comes out. Only update with TWRP flashable zips (which I assume will be harder to make now).
If it was complaints from US carriers that caused the original Pie to be pulled, I bet this was it, not lags or other bugs: No way they would accept another ARB0 update of this phone. In their mind, it's time to kill it and sell some new phones.
Edit: This also has a few other consequences: Once the Pie update is out for your model, you can no longer send it in to LG for repair, as you will get it back with Pie. The same if you replace it through your carrier. And if you buy a V30 on eBay, you want to make sure it doesn't have Pie on it, if you want to be able to root.
So NOW would be the time to buy that V30 for anybody who's been thinking about it!
It seems we may be in luck after all: According to @tech_infinity's post here release notes for the previous update said the same thing, even though the update was actually ARB0.
So fingers crossed. I apologize for crying wolf if it turns out there is none. We'll see when the update actually comes out. I would still say be careful until it's been confirmed. I will be myself.
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It seems we may be in luck after all: According to @tech_infinity's post here release notes for the previous update said the same thing, even though the update was actually ARB0.
So fingers crossed. I apologize for crying wolf if it turns out there is none. We'll see when the update actually comes out. I would still say be careful until it's been confirmed. I will be myself.
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Yeah let's wait and see. If it turns out to be true, then it's a good warning. If it turns out not to be true, you can always edit the thread title.
New owners need to be careful anyway and not just update to most recent firmware, before finding out how to root their phone.
I've seen that so many times over the years -- people get a new phone, IMMEDIATELY update to most recent firmware, THEN come XDA ask how to root their phone. With ARB now incremented, they can't do it. Whereas if they had stayed on the firmware their phone came with, it would have been easy. THEN, update.
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Yeah let's wait and see. If it turns out to be true, then it's a good warning. If it turns out not to be true, you can always edit the thread title.
New owners need to be careful anyway and not just update to most recent firmware, before finding out how to root their phone.
I've seen that so many times over the years -- people get a new phone, update to most recent firmware, THEN come XDA ask how to root their phone. With ARB incremented, you can't do it. Whereasif they had stayed on the firmware they had when they got their phone, it would have been easy.
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Thank you. I agree. Most people don't don't pay attention to ARB and don't realize it's a hard wall once you cross it (fuses blown): Not something we can just work around with a little software tweak.
Looks like we dodged a bullet:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg...-lg-v30-european-market-t3951898/post80127539
Again, I apologize for the premature warning. I am so very glad that I was wrong
Mods: If you see this, feel free to delete the thread. Otherwise I'll just update the title. I'm OK either way.
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Looks like we dodged a bullet:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg...-lg-v30-european-market-t3951898/post80127539
Again, I apologize for the premature warning. I am so very glad that I was wrong
Mods: If you see this, feel free to delete the thread. Otherwise I'll just update the title. I'm OK either way.
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Aah nice. No need for apologies. Better safe than sorry
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If anyone gets this update please let us know! I am currently still on "N910AUCU1ANIE" and have not received the update for "XXU1ANJ4". Look forward to see what positive enhancements this has, have read good comments about the positive impact on battery life.
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-note-4-firmware-update-xxu1anj4-536934/
The update mentioned isn't for the AT&T variant. No word on when we will get our update.
That's for T-Mobile variant
Even if we do get an update, there is no way I am applying it. I want root, and don't want to risk any chance that I might miss it.
At Att pace for updates we wont get it until next year and when we do it will mess our phones up.
raiu said:
At Att pace for updates we wont get it until next year and when we do it will mess our phones up.
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Lol so true
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Even if we do get an update, there is no way I am applying it. I want root, and don't want to risk any chance that I might miss it.
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You might not have a choice. AT&T is known for force pushing updates to phones and without root you can't stop the OTA push service so you don't really have anything to worry about. Unless you disconnect from the network, you'll eventually get the update without a choice. This happened to a lot of people on the Galaxy S4 when they patched loki. Many went to bed to wake up the next morning with there phone rebooted. Some didn't even notice planning to install loki the next day only to find AT&T pushed the patch to there phone unless you remembered to disable OTA service.
I don't know how this will be able to help our situation with locked bootloaders, but I am sure the intelligent among us could somehow use this.
I suppose this would be possible. But I'm pretty sure LG will close that with the next security update (if they can be bothered to issue one, we're still waiting for the February update.)
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I suppose this would be possible. But I'm pretty sure LG will close that with the next security update (if they can be bothered to issue one, we're still waiting for the February update.)
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http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-updates-lg-g3-and-g4-march-security-patch? now I wish H815 would get it. Amazing to see a carrier phone appear to get this first.
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I suppose this would be possible. But I'm pretty sure LG will close that with the next security update (if they can be bothered to issue one, we're still waiting for the February update.)
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Yes, that is true. But the choice of updating is in the hands of the user. I am sure a lot of people want to use MM on their G4 but cannot let go of root. This can/may provide a middle-ground for these people. They can have root and MM, albeit an outdated version, which in my opinion is better than nothing.
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Yes, that is true. But the choice of updating is in the hands of the user. I am sure a lot of people want to use MM on their G4 but cannot let go of root. This can/may provide a middle-ground for these people. They can have root and MM, albeit an outdated version, which in my opinion is better than nothing.
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I agree considering I'm still on LP because I will not let go of my root access. I'm in no rush to upgrade either but it doesn't hurt to not be too left behind compared to my brother
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I agree considering I'm still on LP because I will not let go of my root access. I'm in no rush to upgrade either but it doesn't hurt to not be too left behind compared to my brother
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I was foolish enough to update to MM, I've since stopped using the device completely except for answering calls, and I am really sad about that. With the leather back, curved screen, replaceable battery, and back buttons this is one of my top phones. Yes, I know I can downgrade, but I don't want to be bothered by that. I like the new MM features enough to not downgrade, yet I hate not having root, the ad-blocking, the tweaking of my phone to my liking. I've already decided on not buying any phones except nexus. But sadly I am stuck with this phone till the next nexus comes out.
Hello,
I was wondering if someone with the right skills could do it.
https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2015-1805
In the bug's description it's said that Linux kernels before 3.16 are affected by this, I'm using 20e which runs 3.10.84 so theoretically exploitable.
I work with software development but web/mainframe mainly, anyone with a few hax0r skills willing to work on this?
I would certainly donate for this cause.
Samsung apparently has sent out a final notification to all those enrolled in the Nougat Beta that there will be no more updates and that the beta ends officially on December 30th and that they will attempt to push out the official update to everyone in January. Hope this means they were able to quash all major bugs.
http://www.androidcentral.com/galaxy-s7-and-s7-edge-receive-nougat-update-january
And it is officially Android 7.1.1, at least for those in the US.
Hopefully we get it soon, I would love some Nougat. At this point I prefer to not have to root my phone to get updates because it's a hassle without being able to unlock the bootloader. I was rooted for awhile and IMHO stock runs butter unless you spend hours customizing it. I love debloating but I would prefer a fully unlocked/rooted phone to a partial solution.
I don't have high hopes for when we get this updated because of verizon but we eventually will, about 2 years after everyone else
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Hopefully we get it soon, I would love some Nougat. At this point I prefer to not have to root my phone to get updates because it's a hassle without being able to unlock the bootloader. I was rooted for awhile and IMHO stock runs butter unless you spend hours customizing it. I love debloating but I would prefer a fully unlocked/rooted phone to a partial solution.
I don't have high hopes for when we get this updated because of verizon but we eventually will, about 2 years after everyone else
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I haven't been rooted for over a year. I was on an LG G3 before my S7 and so far, I haven't found a real need to root. Before, I rooted because I used TiBu to backup my apps, but with the G3, they had their own backup utility that worked just like TiBu, but it's only for LG devices.
But with how Google Play uploads settings now, that appears to work just fine for me as well, so at this point, I have no reason to root. Plus, I really love Samsung Pay so I don't want to lose that.
This is the first device I have owned that I have never rooted. No need to. Faster than anything I have ever owned and mine never slows down for my usage. It's the first device that I feel works as intended. I also wasted a few years of my life with this stuff and just don't have the motivation anymore. Especially without an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery, I'd never.
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This is the first device I have owned that I have never rooted. No need to. Faster than anything I have ever owned and mine never slows down for my usage. It's the first device that I feel works as intended. I also wasted a few years of my life with this stuff and just don't have the motivation anymore. Especially without an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery, I'd never.
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Agree completely. The root process works well etc but I had to go through xposed and do a lot of tweaks to get it running well for really no gain over what I had stock.
JediDru said:
This is the first device I have owned that I have never rooted. No need to. Faster than anything I have ever owned and mine never slows down for my usage. It's the first device that I feel works as intended. I also wasted a few years of my life with this stuff and just don't have the motivation anymore. Especially without an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery, I'd never.
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I completely agree. The G3 was the first phone I ended up not rooting. I did at first because I was just in that mode of, get a new phone, root, flash a custom ROM. But as I started getting used to a lot of the features, and found that the battery life wasn't bad, coupled with running Greenify in non-root mode, I could make the battery last 1.5 days. So, over the last year of the two years I owned it, I didn't root.
With the S7, no need to root. This is smoothest phone I've had yet. The quality of the phone itself is excellent. So, this phone will not be rooted.
It appears the official Nougat OTA is being pushed out, with beta testers getting it first.
Anyone on here that has gotten the Nougat OTA notification yet? I'm holding off on accepting until I know better on how it performs, etc.
http://www.androidcentral.com/stabl...ing-galaxy-s7-and-s7-edge-starting-beta-users
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It appears the official Nougat OTA is being pushed out, with beta testers getting it first.
Anyone on here that has gotten the Nougat OTA notification yet? I'm holding off on accepting until I know better on how it performs, etc.
http://www.androidcentral.com/stabl...ing-galaxy-s7-and-s7-edge-starting-beta-users
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Nothing on my end yet.
Sent from my SM-G930V using XDA-Developers Legacy app
was there ever a second beta OTA sent out to Verizon testers? I didn't get into the beta but side loaded the only 7.0 beta build OTA that was floating around and my build number is NRD90M.G930VVRU4ZPK4. Was there an update to after that? Trying to figure out if the Nougate beta -> final OTA (assuming someone pulls it) will work on my phone or if I'll need to find the intermediary beta OTAs or else wipe clean and start from scratch.
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was there ever a second beta OTA sent out to Verizon testers? I didn't get into the beta but side loaded the only 7.0 beta build OTA that was floating around and my build number is NRD90M.G930VVRU4ZPK4. Was there an update to after that? Trying to figure out if the Nougate beta -> final OTA (assuming someone pulls it) will work on my phone or if I'll need to find the intermediary beta OTAs or else wipe clean and start from scratch.
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I believe there were only two betas for VZW phones and then they cancelled the beta testing for VZW-based phones. Not sure why. Kind of sucks. Probably Big Red had something to do with it.
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Nothing on my end yet.
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Same here, tried rebooting and checking again a few times and still nothing.
Oh well
I spoke to Verizon about this and they dont know when the update will be out.
SoerenHelmer said:
I spoke to Verizon about this and they dont know when the update will be out.
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Of course they don't. They have to add crapware, disable a bunch of stuff and add backdoors.
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SoerenHelmer said:
I spoke to Verizon about this and they dont know when the update will be out.
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That's their usual response.
I've read US-Based carriers have no ETA yet. Grr.
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I've read US-Based carriers have no ETA yet. Grr.
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I swear searching around the interwebs for information on release dates has at least as much mis-information as looking for information on the election candidates during the election. So much trash.
But I haven't found anyone stating they heard definite dates. I'm thinking it will be late January at this point maybe early Feb before it hits our phones.
i have given up speculating anything that involves verizon. nothing would surprise me.
Take it where its coming from but it looks like some US non-beta testers are starting to see the update. "Unlocked" phones only but still....
http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/19/14321980/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-android-nougat-update
I have an official unlocked US model, but nothing yet. I expect to see the update by the weekend. Crossing fingers.
lickwid said:
I have an official unlocked US model, but nothing yet. I expect to see the update by the weekend. Crossing fingers.
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I believe unlocked models should be getting it before us on Verizon. But, there was a story out that stated OTAs for some reason have stopped being pushed out and Samsung has acknowledged this and is looking into why it happened.
http://www.droidviews.com/samsung-galaxy-s7-android-nougat-problems-firmware-delivery-stops/
Whether the "bug" is in the firmware itself or with the update process that sends out the notifications is not mentioned.
Did anyone else get updated, my phone is not rooted or unlocked. so far update looks sleek, need to explore a lot.
enjoy all.
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Did anyone else get updated, my phone is not rooted or unlocked. so far update looks sleek, need to explore a lot.
enjoy all.
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Mine is updating now but stated "security update will install?"
Looks like the N920AUCS4EQG1 update Nobarb found for all of us and referenced as unreleased a little bit back. (Thank you once again, Nobarb for all your hard work!!)
Probably just another security update. With the S8, S8+ and now the Note 8 forthcoming I can't imagine Samsung throwing us any more bones for our good old Note 5.
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Looks like the N920AUCS4EQG1 update Nobarb found for all of us and referenced as unreleased a little bit back. (Thank you once again, Nobarb for all your hard work!!)
Probably just another security update. With the S8, S8+ and now the Note 8 forthcoming I can't imagine Samsung throwing us any more bones for our good old Note 5.
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well as I said I got Official Nougat, i will post some pics but security enhancements shows as April 13. Im sure ATT rolls these out in phases.
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well as I said I got Official Nougat, i will post some pics but security enhancements shows as April 13. Im sure ATT rolls these out in phases.
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My apologies...I may have misunderstood what you were talking about. I just got an update yesterday and it was the QG1 update which brings in the July 1, 2017 update.
If you are not fully up to that build, keep trying for an update. You might try manually pushing your clock ahead a day if it is restricting you by the time limit.
I also received this new update and installed it. No difference in battery life or performance whatsoever... Just security updates.
Ever since my phone was updated to Nougat, it has been randomly rebooting (sometimes once a week and sometimes twice in 10 minutes). I can still use it fine but I'm honestly getting tired of finding it stuck at the "Enter PIN" (encrypted phone) screen after restarting. So I'm missing important calls without even realizing it when the phone is in my pocket. Anybody else seeing this? Suggestions welcome.
I did a cache wipe at least 10 times now and that didn't help. Don't wish to do a factory reset... It's a pain to setup android the way I like.
Thanks for any help guys.
someone can give me firmware N920AUCS4EQG1, im out side US,pls!
Seriously. Why doesn't LG unlock the bootloader on these phones so that we can get custom updated roms? They're abysmal at releasing updates, and that locked bootloader is the only thing holding us back from having a much better device. My factory unlocked G8 hasn't received a single update since release. This is pathetic.
I advise everyone not to mess around within the options menu of the new update. It's a buggy mess. LG tried to act like they are pushing out updates, instead they released a glitchy crap for OS10. My "2nd display" button doesn't do anything anymore, I'm about to do a factory reset the 3rd time since the update. (Sprint unlocked LG G8). As of now, this phone is unreliable to be used as a daily driver.
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I advise everyone not to mess around within the options menu of the new update. It's a buggy mess. LG tried to act like they are pushing out updates, instead they released a glitchy crap for OS10. My "2nd display" button doesn't do anything anymore, I'm about to do a factory reset the 3rd time since the update. (Sprint unlocked LG G8). As of now, this phone is unreliable to be used as a daily driver.
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Weird. I was on the 20a beta and had 0 bugs other than animations, which I ended up using another app for
antintin said:
Weird. I was on the 20a beta and had 0 bugs other than animations, which I ended up using another app for
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Bro how do I downgrade, so that I get the official update please help me since I have the sprint version too, did you do that? Or are you still in beta 20a
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Bro how do I downgrade, so that I get the official update please help me since I have the sprint version too, did you do that? Or are you still in beta 20a
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I can't update cause it's broken I'm still on pie. Join the LG V50 telegram group to get the updated downgrade guide
While I don't have any comments on this particular issue, it is kind of ridiculous that the community could update the phone to Android 10 almost instantaneously, whereas the lag introduced by phone manufacturer AND phone plan provider results in enormous delays on the order of 6-months to never.
They released the bootloader unlock for the V50 but not the G8 which makes my brain go "???"...
really can't wrap my head around it. They just dodge questions about it too. Stupid company.
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They released the bootloader unlock for the V50 but not the G8 which makes my brain go "???"...
really can't wrap my head around it. They just dodge questions about it too. Stupid company.
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Only for the European v50 anyway which few people have
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Only for the European v50 anyway which few people have
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that's usually the case
I don't have a problem with that because I myself own an G8S, so the European variant of the G8
we'll see what's going to happen (probably nothing, because LG is made of a bunch of id*ots apparantly)