It's advertised as 4300 mah however most of the battery apps are reporting it as 4170 mah. I was curious and went into Settings ->About phone -> Battery information and there's a note mentioning something about 4170 mah. Is Samsung using false advertising ?
Not false advertising, read the text
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I have a pixel 3xl and Google advertised the battery capacity as 3,430mah and all the battery apps are showing the same capacity. Whereas the note is advertised as 4300mah, while all battery apps are reporting as 4170mah.. So regardless of the explanation Samsung put in the settings, I think they are doing false advertisement imo!
Battery is actually great, I don't see why anyone would need the 45w charger.
phaneeswar130 said:
I have a pixel 3xl and Google advertised the battery capacity as 3,430mah and all the battery apps are showing the same capacity. Whereas the note is advertised as 4300mah, while all battery apps are reporting as 4170mah.. So regardless of the explanation Samsung put in the settings, I think they are doing false advertisement imo!
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No you are missing the point - they are saying the average rated capacity is 4300mAh, but they are choosing to show it as 4170mAh for full disclosure. Other manufacturers are just quoting the average rated mAh, while Samsung are going further and also quoting their minimum rated mAh that can be expected.
Maybe it is a safety margin as you never want to fully deplete any lithium class battery. Protecting us from ourselves?
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I'm pretty sure the point here is that Samsung is using big bold numbers on it's own website claiming this is a 4300mah battery. If you have to look for the fine print to get to the lesser truth, it's false advertising.
Since the s8 series, Samsung has limited the maximum charge at the hardware level to about 80%. You don't see it because the stock firmware hides it, displaying 100 instead of 80. However, if you flash another ROM or firmware which doesn't mask it you'll see it limited to 80%.
This is partly how they are getting "longer life" batteries while marketing the s8. Also, you cannot override this. It is a hard limit in the hardware itself.
Yes, it is a 4300mah battery.
phaneeswar130 said:
I have a pixel 3xl and Google advertised the battery capacity as 3,430mah and all the battery apps are showing the same capacity. Whereas the note is advertised as 4300mah, while all battery apps are reporting as 4170mah.. So regardless of the explanation Samsung put in the settings, I think they are doing false advertisement imo!
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You're absolutely right. This looks very like false advertising. It was the same for the note 9 and the S10+. Whatever explanation they try to display, when you said 4300mah, it should be 4300mah.
Pearlblack24 said:
You're absolutely right. This looks very like false advertising. It was the same for the note 9 and the S10+. Whatever explanation they try to display, when you said 4300mah, it should be 4300mah.
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It is 4300mah. But only charged to about 80%. Its not false advertising you are getting what is advertised.
LogicEarth said:
It is 4300mah. But only charged to about 80%. Its not false advertising you are getting what is advertised.
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Lol, that 80% was from if you rooted cause it had to use some sort of engineering kernel it locked it to 80%. I know as I had s8+ and was rooted and was there the whole ride. They assumed people wouldn't use it if battery charge was locked lower was the assumption.
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Lol, that 80% was from if you rooted cause it had to use some sort of engineering kernel it locked it to 80%. I know as I had s8+ and was rooted and was there the whole ride. They assumed people wouldn't use it if battery charge was locked lower was the assumption.
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That 80% was because the rooted firmware did not mask it like the stock does. All the phones since the s8 limit to 80% in hardware that is how they achieved the longer life claims.
The fact the battery is being reported lower than 4300 is a dead give away they are limiting it to about 80% capacity.
Yup it's masked, I just checked against another app
80% of 4300 is 3440, not 4170.
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By the way it's not false advertising. Again, read the fine print. 4300 is the TYPICAL battery size. It says the typical battery size is the average of the battery sizes, and 4170 is the minimum. Means you're could be 4170. Could be 4300. Could be 4500. It's a manufacturing tolerance.
Let's say the average adult male is 5'9", so I tell you the typical adult male driver of any automobile is 5'9". Does that make me a liar when a guy 5'6" tall pulls up in a 1996 Chevy Lumina?
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80% of 4300 is 3440, not 4170.
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If only battery capacities were measured in a linear fashion. They are not.
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If only battery capacities were measured in a linear fashion. They are not.
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But I only think in a linear fashion.
I read through the replies. I see people say that 4300mAh is the average level, and 4170mAh is the lower boundary of some sort of confidence interval of the battery capacity. Then I am also unlucky since I see 4170 on my 10+ in third party apps. My question is that if too many people see the minimum numbers on their phones, stating that the average capacity is 4300 would be a false advertising.
AccuBattery's estimated battery size fluctuates between 4202 and 4187mah on my note10+ so far. minimum of 4170mah is correct.
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I read through the replies. I see people say that 4300mAh is the average level, and 4170mAh is the lower boundary of some sort of confidence interval of the battery capacity. Then I am also unlucky since I see 4170 on my 10+ in third party apps. My question is that if too many people see the minimum numbers on their phones, stating that the average capacity is 4300 would be a false advertising.
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No it would not be false advertising. You have a 4300mah battery in the phone. What a third party app says is irrelevant, they are incapable of testing the actual capacity of the battery. And as I said before, the battery is only being charged to ~80% which also throws off accuracy of these apps.
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Got this stock thickness battery off of ebay.ph for about 18 USD.
And as you'd expect it's not a true 2500 mAh capacity ... at least that's what Battery Monitor Widget tells me. This should be a decent backup battery. Performance is similar to stock so far since I got it last Saturday (03/24), will have a better feel for it through this week's normal use.
Here's a screenshot :
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I should do a better benchmark starting from a 5% current battery charge, but you get the idea
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Update: While watching a divx movie with the battery at 40% it drains and dies 10 minutes into the movie.
Unreliable.
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Update:
After 3 full charge cycles Battery Monitor Widget now reports the battery to be at 1285 mAh.
I think the calibration is more accurate this time. I no longer get weird behavior of the battery going from ~40% to 0% in an instant.
I'm using MX Video player on SW decoder right now at 21% battery charge. Will do another full discharge and run through the calibration test again to see if the reading is consistent.
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how much mah does "battery monitor widget" says it has?
mety333 said:
how much mah does "battery monitor widget" says it has?
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In the screenshot above it says 1527mAh.
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The capacity shown in software may not be relevant as battery capacity is hardcoded into kernel.
Read Iridaki's posts in this topic for more informations :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1521597
Update: While watching a divx movie with the battery at 40% it drains and dies 10 minutes into the movie.
Unreliable.
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The capacity shown in software may not be relevant as battery capacity is hardcoded into kernel.
Read Iridaki's posts in this topic for more informations :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1521597
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This is true. Extended capacity batteries tend to behave weirdly because of hardcoded capacity amount in the kernel.
EDIT: Mind if I know which app is that?
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This is true. Extended capacity batteries tend to behave weirdly because of hardcoded capacity amount in the kernel.
EDIT: Mind if I know which app is that?
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It's called "Battery Monitor Widget" by developer 3C
From the way it measures mAh, you need a charge of 50% or below, plug it in and from the time it takes to charge to 100% it can calculate the mAh ... strange because i know the way to calculate mAh is to have a steady load discharging the battery. i guess the opposite works too?
I googled exactly that battery and I found a report where someone checked the bettery properly and measured it's capacity (outside the phone)....
It had 1500 mAh like the stock on...
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If the kernel has hardcoded values for the battery capacity
(in which case, it does) no app whatsoever can tell you how much mAh your battery really is.
As I stated in the OP, I have a kernel that can override the values Sony set for the battery and allow the fuel gauge to read the battery capacity.
Anyone interested, let me know!
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BATTERY MONITOR WIDGET CANNOT DISPLAY THE REAL CAPACITY.
Sony had hardcoded the stock mAh value in their kernels. See the thread from which I took the quote for more info.
Although, to be honest, a bigger battery in mAh same size as stock would be MUCH more expensive, so it's most batteries as such are likely fake.
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After 3 full charge cycles Battery Monitor Widget now reports the battery to be at 1285 mAh.
I think the calibration is more accurate this time. I no longer get weird behavior of the battery going from ~40% to 0% in an instant.
I'm using MX Video player on SW decoder right now at 21% battery charge. Will do another full discharge and run through the calibration test again to see if the reading is consistent.
sleepsus said:
Update:
After 3 full charge cycles Battery Monitor Widget now reports the battery to be at 1285 mAh.
I think the calibration is more accurate this time. I no longer get weird behavior of the battery going from ~40% to 0% in an instant.
I'm using MX Video player on SW decoder right now at 21% battery charge. Will do another full discharge and run through the calibration test again to see if the reading is consistent.
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Sure, go ahead and disregard what I said above about 1500 mAh battery capacity value being hardcoded in the kernel and Battery Monitor being totally unable to display the real capacity.
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Sure, go ahead and disregard what I said above about 1500 mAh battery capacity value being hardcoded in the kernel and Battery Monitor being totally unable to display the real capacity.
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It's your opinion and I respect it. I don't have to believe it nor do I impose my own opinions upon others.
These are based on my tests and experiences. If you want me to believe in what you say, then go and use a stock kernel and use Battery Monitor Widget on your own extended battery and we can discuss on the same level.
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It's your opinion and I respect it. I don't have to believe it nor do I impose my own opinions upon others.
These are based on my tests and experiences. If you want me to believe in what you say, then go and use a stock kernel and use Battery Monitor Widget on your own extended battery and we can discuss on the same level.
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It's not really an opinion but rather a fact. Any software needs a reference value that will be used to calculate battery status, remainging capacity etc.. Sony hardcoded stock battery capacity into kernel (1500mah). So any battery will show up as a 1500mah one unless you modify and compile a kernel for your battery.
I don't know if there is any kernel for arc/arcs that inquire battery for its real capacity. Maybe FXP cyanogen mod one as it's not based on Sony one.
I don't know if wrong capacity values have influence on battery life though.
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It's your opinion and I respect it. I don't have to believe it nor do I impose my own opinions upon others.
These are based on my tests and experiences. If you want me to believe in what you say, then go and use a stock kernel and use Battery Monitor Widget on your own extended battery and we can discuss on the same level.
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It is not an opinion, it is a FACT.
And if you had read the link I sent you -something I did to HELP you, not criticise you in any way-
you would see that I did experimented A LOT on the subject and I was lucky enough to have Bazoocase
(a developer who introduced the workaround for "fried" battery fuel gauges) help me and explain things to me.
I was only passing on information that is useful, trying to help you because I was in your place not long ago when I bought my external battery.
Your test and experiences are based on false facts given by a 3rd party "universal" android app, not specific either to Sony devices nor Sony kernels.
Sure, hold on to them, I really can't afford to care, but if you actually want to evaluate your extended battery properly, you know where to find me.
my battery kinada messed up so i wanted to buy a new one. I check my local future shop and they only sell 1 oem one but there a difference between their and my official one.
The one that come with my s3 is 3.8 V Li-ion and 7.98Wh
future shop oem battery is 3.7 V Li-ion and 7.40Wh
would the future shop battery harm my phone or less usage?
the link to future shop oem battery
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/prod...spx?path=79c7f70e0b4d9e9448222ce0aede4de1en02
i dont think it will do any harm to your phone, only different are it 'lil less power.
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Shouldn't be a problem...
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what exactly is the 3.7 V Li-ion and 7.40Wh?
higher the better?
Cyberianrazr said:
what exactly is the 3.7 V Li-ion and 7.40Wh?
higher the better?
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If I remember back to my physics times on high school, the battery outputs 3.7 volts and 7.40 watt hours. The stock bring 3.8 volts at 7.98 Wh. Volts deals with something in the resistance I believe so the higher the voltage the more work has to be done to pull charge. Since the stock battery has a rating of 3.8 volts it means that the amount of work the phone would be doing at 3.8 will be pulling out 7.98w per hour if at 3.8v. Now what I find weird is that, phones usually pull about 4volts on a battery under heavy load, this accounts for battery diminishing life after basically, the first charge. So why don't manufacturers put a battery with more voltage? Because the phone will basically fry. Having 4v resistance will allow the phone to pull in so much current that it will fry the phone (or at least some regulator inside the phone which will fry the phone anyway. Even the extended batteries are 3.7 or 3.8 volts. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong (I don't want to run on false info) but from my highschool understanding and my understanding of how phones somewhat work, that's what those numbers mean...sorry for the physics lesson lol
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And by the way. For the millions of people asking why wouldn't ,manufacturers work on new battery. Well there are new battery technology. Its just heck expensive to manufacture them. Lol. Seeing these new battery technologies in the phones would raise the cost of the phones big time. so they are trying to add more capacity but of course that leads to size which also leads to crammed components..
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osmosizzz said:
If I remember back to my physics times on high school, the battery outputs 3.7 volts and 7.40 watt hours. The stock bring 3.8 volts at 7.98 Wh. Volts deals with something in the resistance I believe so the higher the voltage the more work has to be done to pull charge. Since the stock battery has a rating of 3.8 volts it means that the amount of work the phone would be doing at 3.8 will be pulling out 7.98w per hour if at 3.8v. Now what I find weird is that, phones usually pull about 4volts on a battery under heavy load, this accounts for battery diminishing life after basically, the first charge. So why don't manufacturers put a battery with more voltage? Because the phone will basically fry. Having 4v resistance will allow the phone to pull in so much current that it will fry the phone (or at least some regulator inside the phone which will fry the phone anyway. Even the extended batteries are 3.7 or 3.8 volts. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong (I don't want to run on false info) but from my highschool understanding and my understanding of how phones somewhat work, that's what those numbers mean...sorry for the physics lesson lol
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And by the way. For the millions of people asking why wouldn't ,manufacturers work on new battery. Well there are new battery technology. Its just heck expensive to manufacture them. Lol. Seeing these new battery technologies in the phones would raise the cost of the phones big time. so they are trying to add more capacity but of course that leads to size which also leads to crammed components..
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Stop posting nonsense, seriously, every post I see of yours is uneducated banter. Less volts = less strain and wear on the circuitry. Volts is not about resistance, that is OHMS dude. So much for high school "physics" eh ?
To the original poster. If you are having problems with the stock battery it carries a 1 years warranty like the phone. Call samsung and tell them the issue and they will send you one in replacement. You can also score an OEM or Anker battery from eBay for fairly cheap. I recommend the Anker because it has a higher mAh than the stock, is the same thickness, and lasts longer. Hope you find your solution and save a few bucks in the process, $40 is a lot for a battery dude !
I will try contact samsung when they r open after the break. I check out Anker, seem like it better than other. But I prefer OEM. I will try and get the future shop one for 39.99 and try out. If it suck, I just return it
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The only thing that's gonna suck is shelling out $40 for a replacement. Check eBay for an OEM one that has NFC that's how you can tell its real.
Why dont you wait until January 2. Samsung will release 3000 battery..and officially from them. Only add 1-2mm thickness. .
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x1tyme said:
Why dont you wait until January 2. Samsung will release 3000 battery..and officially from them. Only add 1-2mm thickness. .
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How much would it be? I would consider if it add only 1-2mm thickness and 900mAh more
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How much would it be? I would consider if it add only 1-2mm thickness and 900mAh more
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$54. You get new batter cover..and it from Samsung
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http://www.mobilefun.com/37555-genu...ttery-kit-for-galaxy-s3---3000mah---white.htm
and for the blue one (actual size):
It's going from 8.6mm to 11mm for ~42% more power
Okay so I came across this stuff while surfing through and it caught my attention. Supposedly a breakthrough product set to increase the battery life by up to 3 times and also improves recharge time and usage. Now I'm very very skeptical about this and honestly think its a load of crap but who am i to judge. I'm interested to know if any of you have tried it before. Check out the link to their website.
http://www.akkufresh.com/en/
Edit : Here are some of their claims from the official website. You can see the technical jargons they put as well on the site.
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Raises charging ability of the battery
Offers more talk time and a longer stand-by-time
Shortens charging time up to 40% / Reduces the charging frequency
Recovers worn or deteriorated batteries. / Restores the original performance
Installed in seconds
Stops further battery deterioration
Prolongs the total battery life span with up to 200% longer lifetime (total charging cycles)
Protects the battery from electrical variations by regulating and filtering the current
Saves money by delaying the need to purchase new batteries
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Okay so I came across this stuff while surfing through and it caught my attention. Supposedly a breakthrough product set to increase the battery life by up to 3 times and also improves recharge time and usage. Now I'm very very skeptical about this and honestly think its a load of crap but who am i to judge. I'm interested to know if any of you have tried it before. Check out the link to their website.
http://www.akkufresh.com/en/
Edit : Here are some of their claims from the official website. You can see the technical jargons they put as well on the site.
Raises charging ability of the battery
Offers more talk time and a longer stand-by-time
Shortens charging time up to 40% / Reduces the charging frequency
Recovers worn or deteriorated batteries. / Restores the original performance
Installed in seconds
Stops further battery deterioration
Prolongs the total battery life span with up to 200% longer lifetime (total charging cycles)
Protects the battery from electrical variations by regulating and filtering the current
Saves money by delaying the need to purchase new batteries
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Looks like a load of bologna.
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Looks like a load of bologna.
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If it were true then I think they have successfully defied one of the most well known laws of physics.
So a sticker on the battery is supposed to do all that? Sigh... The sad thing is some people will actually buy it, and I'm sure some will even swear it works. Probably the same people who bought those stick on antenna boosters from years back. I am slowly but surely losing all faith in humanity.
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So a sticker on the battery is supposed to do all that? Sigh... The sad thing is some people will actually buy it, and I'm sure some will even swear it works. Probably the same people who bought those stick on antenna boosters from years back. I am slowly but surely losing all faith in humanity.
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But, but, but... the infomercial said it would work wonders!
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So a sticker on the battery is supposed to do all that? Sigh... The sad thing is some people will actually buy it, and I'm sure some will even swear it works. Probably the same people who bought those stick on antenna boosters from years back. I am slowly but surely losing all faith in humanity.
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According to that picture, it's not even a sticker on the battery, but on the back of the phone...ridiculous.
Edit: I looked at the site and it is indeed on the battery. Not sure why the iPhone picture looks like that.
I also love this bit "Several charging cycles (5-10) are required for noticeable improvement in battery life"
I haven't laughed out loud at work in a while ....thx!!!!
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According to that picture, it's not even a sticker on the battery, but on the back of the phone...ridiculous.
Edit: I looked at the site and it is indeed on the battery. Not sure why the iPhone picture looks like that.
I also love this bit "Several charging cycles (5-10) are required for noticeable improvement in battery life"
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It's because the iPhone doesn't have a removable battery so you have to put the sticker on the back of the phone instead. That's how amazingly powerful these things are, they work through a metal phone body. This is serious technology guys.
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I am slowly but surely losing all faith in humanity.
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LOL. Here's a quote from Einstein you may have heard:
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
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Comon guys with a website like that its hard not to take em serious at some point
Meme worthy lol.
The sad part is, people will actually buy them and under placebo say it actually does something.
Hello,
I have 4 stickers and I am testing them on the EEE 701 pc battery that has 4 lithium cells. so one stickers for each cell.
they were near to be death, 10 minutes charge. Now the pc does stay on for 1 hour after 5 cycles.
and they're not even covering 80% as they suggest to do.
nanotechnology is something you should never undervalue, and it is the only reason I looked at it and got to test.
I have other 'ancient' lithium battery to test and will do it.
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Hello,
I have 4 stickers and I am testing them on the EEE 701 pc battery that has 4 lithium cells. so one stickers for each cell.
they were near to be death, 10 minutes charge. Now the pc does stay on for 1 hour after 5 cycles.
and they're not even covering 80% as they suggest to do.
nanotechnology is something you should never undervalue, and it is the only reason I looked at it and got to test.
I have other 'ancient' lithium battery to test and will do it.
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Yeah and just because it's supposed "nanotechnology" doesn't mean it does a damn thing. Use your noggin, it's a sticker. Calling it nanotechnology is just an easy marketing trick, just like calling things HD. Ignorant consumers bite, hook, line, and sinker. If this miracle tech was baked INTO the battery, that's one thing, but again, it's just a sticker. Don't you think if it was real that battery manufacturers would have jumped all over it? It's a scam.
Hi all,
I'm using AccuBattery Pro and it shows my phone's battery capacity is at 3106 mAh. I understand this is a 3rd party app and it probably not 100% accurate. I'm curious to know what numbers you are getting. I just want a way to validate Oneplus is indeed giving me a 3300 mAh battery. Is it even possible to do?
Is there a better battery app I can use? Let me know...Thanks.
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This app is giving you an estimate based on what it thinks your battery is charged to. Because dash charging is different and the battery itself doesn't process its own energy because the wall adapter does, the reported capacity will always be off calibration. Its the same way with my phone on a software based mAh tracker. With my battery tester i have in my garage my capacity is reported as 3300 but my actual capacity is 3221 due to the battery wear. This is my OP5 btw not the 5T.
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This app is giving you an estimate based on what it thinks your battery is charged to. Because dash charging is different and the battery itself doesn't process its own energy because the wall adapter does, the reported capacity will always be off calibration. Its the same way with my phone on a software based mAh tracker. With my battery tester i have in my garage my capacity is reported as 3300 but my actual capacity is 3221 due to the battery wear. This is my OP5 btw not the 5T.
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Thanks. I really appreciate your response and it makes sense based on what you said. I don't know enough about the charging process or to app I'm using to doubt you. I hope you have a good Christmas and New Year. I guess I have nothing to worry about.
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Thanks. I really appreciate your response and it makes sense based on what you said. I don't know enough about the charging process or to app I'm using to doubt you. I hope you have a good Christmas and New Year. I guess I have nothing to worry about.
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If your battery life starts declining significantly such as losing 45 minutes to an hour or around a 8-10% overall idle drain in 24 hours u might have a faulty battery.
OcazPrime said:
If your battery life starts declining significantly such as losing 45 minutes to an hour or around a 8-10% overall idle drain in 24 hours u might have a faulty battery.
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What battery tracker are you using?
minhtluu said:
What battery tracker are you using?
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i just base my battery off of what ive done with the phone since unplugging it and what android reports in the battery chart.
minhtluu said:
Hi all,
I'm using AccuBattery Pro and it shows my phone's battery capacity is at 3106 mAh. I understand this is a 3rd party app and it probably not 100% accurate. I'm curious to know what numbers you are getting. I just want a way to validate Oneplus is indeed giving me a 3300 mAh battery. Is it even possible to do?
Is there a better battery app I can use? Let me know...Thanks.
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Just curious after a month what your AccuBattery stats read now? My Battery Health reading is at 86% ~ 2842 mAh. I have had the phone for about a month and this seems to be troubling if accurate.
azsl1326 said:
Just curious after a month what your AccuBattery stats read now? My Battery Health reading is at 86% ~ 2842 mAh. I have had the phone for about a month and this seems to be troubling if accurate.
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I ended up removing the app because I didn't want to get hung up on numbers. The phone does last me all day so I shouldn't complain. What about you?
minhtluu said:
I ended up removing the app because I didn't want to get hung up on numbers. The phone does last me all day so I shouldn't complain. What about you?
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It does last all day, however, I just don't seem to be getting the SOT numbers that others here are claiming to get. Also, I had a 64gb that I returned for the 128gb version and the first phone seemed to score better on the AccuBattery app than the 128gb version, which leads me to believe there is an inferior battery in the 128gb version.
Hey, I bought Samsung F62 and I am getting paranoid if there is some issue with my battery
1) Can someone try to install this program
Device Info HW - Apps on Google Play
Hardware and software information app for Android devices.
play.google.com
2) turn on the "Use 'charged up to'" option from the settings
3) Restart the APP
4) Go to battery section and check for the "Charged up to" value(after the / (eg if value is 2000/6100 I need 6100))
I am getting ~6100 mAh
which is wayyyyy... lower than advertised 7000 mAh
Thank you so much for your help!
Don't concern yourself.
It's not uncommon for new batteries to show similar results.
When SOT drops to roughly 80% of it's original capacity, replace the battery.
At this point it's considered degraded and needs replacing before it fails. A battery failure can severely damage a phone with little or no warning.
A degraded cell is much more likely to fail.
Any battery swelling is a failure.
I have 2 Note 10+'s and their batteries are supposedly difficult to replace. Not so.
The right tools and techniques make it a relatively simple task. Look at a tear down vid for that model to see how tough it is or isn't.
blackhawk said:
Don't concern yourself.
It's not uncommon for new batteries to show similar results.
When SOT drops to roughly 80% of it's original capacity, replace the battery.
At this point it's considered degraded and needs replacing before it fails. A battery failure can severely damage a phone with little or no warning.
A degraded cell is much more likely to fail.
Any battery swelling is a failure.
I have 2 Note 10+'s and their batteries are supposedly difficult to replace. Not so.
The right tools and techniques make it a relatively simple task. Look at a tear down vid for that model to see how tough it is or isn't.
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Thank you for your reply
I just bought the Samsung F62 and if there is a battery issue I can get it replaced right away, thats why I want to be 100% sure tht I didnt get a defective battery from the get go.
Shubham0779 said:
Thank you for your reply
I just bought the Samsung F62 and if there is a battery issue I can get it replaced right away, thats why I want to be 100% sure tht I didnt get a defective battery from the get go.
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You're welcome.
Likely not.
If you're getting good SOT I would not worry.
Not knowing it's nominal power usage makes it hard to gauge though.
If it's not running warm it should get good SOT otherwise it may be the battery.
Concersely if running warm than obviously it's using a lot of battery which explains the lower SOT.
Regardless the replacement probably isn't going to be a big deal.
So enjoy the device
Do a Screen Test to check the display.
Check the sensors etc with the app DevChek.
blackhawk said:
You're welcome.
Likely not.
If you're getting good SOT I would not worry.
Not knowing it's nominal power usage makes it hard to gauge though.
If it's not running warm it should get good SOT otherwise it may be the battery.
Concersely if running warm than obviously it's using a lot of battery which explains the lower SOT.
Regardless the replacement probably isn't going to be a big deal.
So enjoy the device
Do a Screen Test to check the display.
Check the sensors etc with the app DevChek.
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I dont think my battery life is as good as it should have been...
I had Poco X3(6000mAh) previously which had better battery life than my current F62.
Can you check out the values in the app I mentioned. It will be a great help. Thanks
Btw I am not the creator of that app and that app doesnt even have adverts so I am not gaining anything except release from my paranoia.
Shubham0779 said:
I dont think my battery life is as good as it should have been...
I had Poco X3(6000mAh) previously which had better battery life than my current F62.
Can you check out the values in the app I mentioned. It will be a great help. Thanks
Btw I am not the creator of that app and that app doesnt even have adverts so I am not gaining anything except release from my paranoia.
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Someone?
Shubham0779 said:
Someone?
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Just checked.
I have 1757/6277.
I have rooted Samsung F62. Let me know, if you need anything else.
Gsc9111 said:
Just checked.
I have 1757/6277.
I have rooted Samsung F62. Let me know, if you need anything else.
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Thank you soooooo... much!
Shubham0779 said:
Hey, I bought Samsung F62 and I am getting paranoid if there is some issue with my battery
1) Can someone try to install this program
Device Info HW - Apps on Google Play
Hardware and software information app for Android devices.
play.google.com
2) turn on the "Use 'charged up to'" option from the settings
3) Restart the APP
4) Go to battery section and check for the "Charged up to" value(after the / (eg if value is 2000/6100 I need 6100))
I am getting ~6100 mAh
which is wayyyyy... lower than advertised 7000 mAh
Thank you so much for your help!
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Actually the battery mah is 6800 but it advertised 7000.
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Actually the battery mah is 6800 but it advertised 7000.
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Also wear is wayyyy... more than what its supposed to be
yess sadly
How many years does Samsung support their phones with spare batteries when you eventually need to replace it or do they expect us to just chuck their latest and greatest phone out and buy a new phone every 2 years, rinse and repeat?
Out of curiosity for everybody that has already rooted are you able to check the following:
1. Possible to disable the power hungry Mongoose cores completely? This is a major source of power drain when not gaming
2. What are the default cpu and gpu governors and their respective governor tunable settings? Please post screenshots from a kernel manager
3. Can you disable schedUtil governor and allow cores to be switched off keeping only the power sipping A55 cores on?
4. How much is your active drain per hour? 10-15%/hour and standby drain per hour? Losing 5-10% every night or do you use greenify etc?
5. Please post your battery usage stats with general use SOT you achieve using GSam or Better Battery Stats which shows deep sleep stats
I have rooted Samsung F62. Let me know, if you need anything else.
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