About extending MotoG5 memory with a SD card. - Moto G5 Questions & Answers

Hello all,
I recently installed LineageOS 16 on my MotoG5 and up to now I'm quite happy about it. But I'm foreseeing problems due to memory shortage anytime soon and I would like to prevent it by extending its memory with a SD card. I would like to ask some questions before deciding what to do.
Before this phone I had a LG Optimus L90 in which I installed a CyanogenMod ROM (I don't remember the version anymore). I remember I could move most of my apps to the SD card with a few touches. I thought it would be the same with LineageOS 16, but it doesn't seem so. Does anyone know why? Is that on purpose? I remember I had my L90 rooted, but I decided not to root my MotoG5, at least for now. Could it be a question of rooted/unrooted ?
I saw that I could either: a) use a SD card as a "internal storage"; or b) use some apps like "Link2SD", "Apps2SD" or "FolderMount". Which one would be the best? Do these apps require rooting my device? I read some pages relating that some people had problems with the "internal storage", but it was not clear it applied specifically to a MotoG5 with a LineageOS. I also don't remember this option in the old CyanogenMod...
Which SD card would you recommend? From what I read I should get a SD with fast transfer speeds to increase performance, but I was wondering if there is a hardware cap that would make useless having a SD card with very high transfer speed? I also imagine that the excessive read/write operations on the card would damage it sooner than in a normal use. I was thinking about a SanDisk Extreme 128GB or more. Would it be good enough?
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[Q] [How To] Replacing micro SDcard (rooted)

Hello!
I'm running Eclair on my DEFY, it's rooted via z4root.
I currently hold a 2GB microSD card and, as the volume of the apps is getting higher, I wish to upgrade to a 16GB microSD (a SunDisk one).
But I'm wondering if there's more to do then simply copy the apps to a temporary directory on my pc then fill in the new card.
Anyone has yet upgraded?
--- edit: made a deep search on the forum and find out I need a class 6/8 microSD, then I have to format prior to copy up everything that was on the old microSD.
Anything else should I know?
Cheers,
C*
Nothing special to do.
Just copy your actual SD contents on the new one and Go!
I went from the 2GB for a 8GB like this without any tricks...
etherea said:
--- edit: made a deep search on the forum and find out I need a class 6/8 microSD, then I have to format prior to copy up everything that was on the old microSD.
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Class 6/8 is not needed, my 8GB is a Class2 and it work absolutly fine!
For apps the data rate ofthe SD is not really important, 'cause u'll never load large amount off data each time. And SD card are still very very very slow against RAM.
Flash memory have good random access time, that's much important than data rate.
Good data rate are only for large file transfert from/to an other device (PC, etc)
Last thing: by default le SD is not use for app installation on the defy, they use the 2GB internal memory.
You should use some App2Sd for extend this, and it's better to have Android 2.2 then.
Apps in android 2.1 arent stored on the sd card without a mod available on this phone yet.
Instead it is stored on the 2gb internal memory which should be pleanty for lots of apps
Le_Poilu said:
Nothing special to do.
Just copy your actual SD contents on the new one and Go!
I went from the 2GB for a 8GB like this without any tricks...
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Fine, I thought there were some special "needings", I was stuck to the Motorola A1210 that was a bit tricly because of some apps hidden here and there on the microSD.
Le_Poilu said:
Last thing: by default le SD is not use for app installation on the defy, they use the 2GB internal memory.
You should use some App2Sd for extend this, and it's better to have Android 2.2 then.
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Actually the major part of the apps is installed on the microSD, I've checked several times and the percentage is so parted:
Apps/Things on the microSD 85%
Apps/Things on the Phone 23%
I'm not using any program to move stuff, but I'm intrigued by App2SD.
So thanks again =)
add.thebad said:
Apps in android 2.1 arent stored on the sd card without a mod available on this phone yet.
Instead it is stored on the 2gb internal memory which should be pleanty for lots of apps
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As said in the previous reply, I can see stuff is stored on the microSD mainly..
No just copy the stuff from you old card to the new one. And as for class 6/8 I'm using a class 4 and its fine
etherea=> dont mix apps installation et apps data
The apps files are installed on the internal memory, but every app can use SD (intern or extern, whatever is present on the phone) for store datas.
Think about GPS software. This kind of soft need 1, 2 or more GB for maps storage.
The apps itself is on the "apps" space on the internal memory and all the maps stuff are on SD (intern or extern)
You can use software like diskusages to see what is where
etherea said:
As said in the previous reply, I can see stuff is stored on the microSD mainly..
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Apps are not stored on the sd, however some apps data is.
Well thank you both, I still need to read a lot about the phone and aout Android but your answers did clarify a bit =)
Then, I upgraded to a 8GB SanDisk microSD with no problem.
The only minor issue was a duplicate of a couple of non-vital directories and related data, which were wiped out almost in a second.
Everything's working fine and have now much more space to fill in =)
Thanks everyone for the suggestions and hints!
Guys I'm about to replace my micro sd with Kingston 16gb class 4 but, don't laugh , I cant remove the old one. What do i do? There is a red plastic thingy so i guess it holds it, but do i pull it or what ? Sorry for the dump question.
Deyan_pk said:
Guys I'm about to replace my micro sd with Kingston 16gb class 4 but, don't laugh , I cant remove the old one. What do i do? There is a red plastic thingy so i guess it holds it, but do i pull it or what ? Sorry for the dump question.
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Have you tried to pull it up?
It's a bit hard to get removed, try with a fine stick, I made it using my nails =)

Help with Custom Rom for LG G4 Beat (H735)

Hi Everybody,
My LG G4 BEAT is now a little bit slow.... i have already did what i can do on the current Rom (cleaning, removing apps, clearing cache) - and nothing seems to improve to situation.
i have on it 32 GB micro SDcard, and i save on it everything that can be saved instead on the memory phone, but it is not enough, i have always the same message "not enough space...." when i try to download new Apps or when i'm trying to make Updates.
i figured maybe i'll install a new Rom, and the most important thing is that it will make the phone work faster.
can you recommend me on suitable ROM ? is the first time that i try to do that, so i need some good explanations.
thanks! =)
no bootloader unlock = no recovery = no custom rom
In my experience, custom roms are nearly always faster than stock. And they don't slow down as much as the stock rom. Perosnally I like vanilla android roms with a few tweaks. I find they are the most stable and least prone to slowdown over time. I've used Cyanogenmod in the past and loved it, but there isn't a stable release for the G4. I recommend looking into AOSP-based roms in the Android Development section of this forum. Or you could just do a factory reset, which will make your phone faster. It will still slow down over time, however.
I don't think installing a custom rom will really help your problem with not having enough space. However, installing a rom clears your data partition (this means all apps and the saved data with those apps will be removed. Your personal data like pictures and music will be left untouched.) And that means you'll have plenty of free space!
Have you thought about mounting your SD card as an internal partition instead of a media SD card? This allows the system to use the sd card as if it were an internal sd card, meaning you can install apps to it and stuff. But you will only be able to use your SD card for that phone.
OmnipotentPilot said:
Have you thought about mounting your SD card as an internal partition instead of a media SD card? This allows the system to use the sd card as if it were an internal sd card, meaning you can install apps to it and stuff. But you will only be able to use your SD card for that phone.
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this options is disabled by LG in there firmwares
skdubg said:
this options is disabled by LG in there firmwares
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No it isn't, it's just hidden.
You can partition your SD Card through ADB.
On reddit (Enable adoptable storage on your LG G4 (stock, no root needed)) there is a nice tutorial for the LG G4, but it works exactly the same way for the G4s.
But read the comments, there you get usefull hints, like only use a part of the external SD as adoptable storage.
Since I use this I have more than enough space with my G4s and it's even faster, if your SD Card is fast enough.
If you need any further details don't hesitate to contact me.
if i install twrp no-troot h735 then flash magisk to phone it will be rooted?
Custom Rom ? (LG G4 Beat)
Nope, as long as I saw....and it won't be

[Galaxy S4; LinageOS 14.1] Questions on SD-Card usage for internal memory expansion

Hi there,
I recently installed LinageOS to my Galaxy S4 (GTI-9505). Before I used the last stock ROM Samsung provided. Everything seems to run fine and until now I'm very pleased with the new OS on my smartphone.
But I have a question regarding the usage of a SD-card. The phone itself has 16 GB of internal memory. Additionally I have a 16 GB SD-card inserted. AFAIK there are two options on how to use the SD-card with LineageOS.
1. Use it as removable memory for photos, videos, etc.
2. Use it as expansion for the internal memory.
When I use it as figured in No. 1 am I still able to install apps on the SD-card? Just like with the stock rom where you explicitly had to move apps to the SD-card.
What happens when I'm using it as figured in No. 2? At the moment the card doesn't seem to be used that much as I have plenty of internal space. Won't it be used until the internal memory is full? What happens when the SD-card dies while it is used later on? Does that automatically brick my device so that I have to reinstall everything?
Are there any recommendations on that topic? Thank you.
Best regards
willy

Mediapad M2 - SDCard questions

Hi there,
I recently got an M2-802l. I'm already hitting the limits of the internal storage so I've started moving apps to the sdcard I've inserted into the device. I have a few queries about this...
1) what are the best (most compatible) sdcards people are using with their M2's?
2) I'm seeing a little sdcard error icon in the system menu. I've no idea where to check this. It's not appearing (in any obvious location) under storage. (I'm using a Sandisk Extreme pro)
3) If I resolve this sdcard error - is it possible to enable use SD as internal? I can't see the option anywhere. I can set sdcard as default. But I don't think that's the same.
Thanks in advance for any replies!
I am using the SanDisk 200GB SDCard I got from my LG V10 Promotion....working fine so far. As for #2, can you post a screen shot? #3, I am not able to find the enable SD CARD as internal storage. Huawei probably removed it. Might need to flash a custom ROM with Stock Nougat to see that option.
RE : MediaPad M2 - SDCard questions
richfort said:
Hi there,
I recently got an M2-802l. I'm already hitting the limits of the internal storage so I've started moving apps to the sdcard I've inserted into the device. I have a few queries about this...
1) what are the best (most compatible) sdcards people are using with their M2's?
2) I'm seeing a little sdcard error icon in the system menu. I've no idea where to check this. It's not appearing (in any obvious location) under storage. (I'm using a Sandisk Extreme pro)
3) If I resolve this sdcard error - is it possible to enable use SD as internal? I can't see the option anywhere. I can set sdcard as default. But I don't think that's the same.
Thanks in advance for any replies!
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Hello richfort,
Officially these types of SD Cards are compatible with M2 8.0 models :
microSD
microSDHC
microSDXC
with sizes that can vary from the 1-2-4-8 GB up to 256 GB.
I have several noName, Samsung and SanDisk SD cards tested / used on the tablet without any issues so far (Samsung 32GB Evo Plus (SDHC), Samsung 128GB Evo Plus (SDXC), TDK 16GB (SDHC), SanDisk 64GB Ultra (SDXC), Integral 64GB (SDXC), etc..)
You can also use the famous Dual USB 3.0 (OTG or not) Flash Drives, depending on usage and type of activities you do with. Myself, I've never tested those with my tablet.
Concerning, the error you have, try to test another SD-Card, not PRO model, and see it the same happens.
Also, from technical point of view, SD and Internal storage are 2 different type of storage. Never tested neither but maybe the "Secure Folder" might be the answer you're looking for.
Otherwise, I would advise to leave the things as default, just be sure that SD Card is the default storage for all pictures, videos, data, caches, and related activities and needs.
Hope this helps anyhow.
Have a nice day.
Kind Regards.

Install Apps to SD Card on riva

Hi folks.
This has been my biggest complaint since I got this phone. I wasn't bothered that it only had 16 GB memory, because I planned to install apps to the SD card. I didn't imagine that the phone didn't allow it. Now, I can't install any apps unless I delete others.
Can anyone confirm that this is possible with riva using AOSP, or some other OS? To install apps to the SD card? It's the only reason I'm interested in a custom ROM.
Thanks

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