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Stock Application List - Description and Safe Removal

Here is a list of all the apps that come on stock roms. It's main use will be determining which apps are safe to remove.
Although this is a solid starting point, a lot more information still needs to be added. I am going to need help from other members of the community to complete this.
Please PM me regarding any additions/changes. If anyone wants to become a regular contributor I will happily give them editing rights as well.
I am aware that there is a similar list here. Originally I started adding to that list but sadly I lost interest when some of my entries were deleted. As the OP didn't respond to comments about limiting editing rights I thought I would start fresh.
Always perform nandroid and app backups before deleting any apps. Although I have done this to the best of my ability I cannot guarantee that all the information is 100% accurate.
I personally do a nandroid backup straight after installing a new rom and before I flash anything. I also backup all my user apps and system apps with TB. When I decide to remove an app I first delete it's data, then freeze it. I carry on using the phone for a day or so to test the effects. If everything's good I finally uninstall it.
If you are going to ruthlessly uninstall system apps it is also a good idea to copy the System/App folder to your SD card first. This way, if you need to restore an app you can copy it back from your SD card to the System/App folder with Root Explorer. Remember you will need to first mount as r/w, then copy the app, long press the app to set it's permissions as Owner Read, Owner Write, Group Read, and Others Read, and finally restart.
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Edit: I am not personally maintaining this list anymore. I have made it so that anyone can edit it. If it gets messed up I am sorry, but it won't be my doing as I don't even own an S3 anymore.

Dead Link?

SteveTilsed said:
Dead Link?
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Nope it works for me .
jje

Dead here.

Dead here also....Although work browser may be blocking link will try at home later
Whats the situation with backing/restoring up system apps with TB? I know the process is the same but is there anything I need to be aware of? other than NOT deleteing required apps of course....

Weird that the link is being temperamental. I have changed it slightly in the OP, hopefully it will behave for everyone now. The same new link is here.
rtorbs said:
Whats the situation with backing/restoring up system apps with TB? I know the process is the same but is there anything I need to be aware of? other than NOT deleteing required apps of course....
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I personally do a nandroid before I flash anything. That means I get a fresh nandroid backup every 2 days or so. With regards to TB, I backup all apps (system and user). When I decide to remove an app I first delete it's data, then freeze it. I carry on using the phone for a day or so, and then if everything's good I uninstall it. This is the method I have used in working out whether a lot of apps are safe to remove. Just because I came across no issues in my day or two of testing does not mean no issues exist though.

1234568 said:
I personally do a nandroid before I flash anything. That means I get a fresh nandroid backup every 2 days or so. With regards to TB, I backup all apps (system and user). When I decide to remove an app I first freeze it, carry on using the phone for a day, and then if everything's good I uninstall it.
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Good man, wasnt 100% sure as never normally stick with stock roms in order to have to uninstall, didnt fancy borking up the phone in the first day however.
Ive frozen apps previously but am still always wary about deleting even if no FCs occur cos never totally sure that it wont be required later....
Cheers though for the heads up

1234568 said:
Here is a list of all the apps that come on stock roms. It's main use will be determining which apps are safe to remove.
Although this is a solid starting point, a lot more information still needs to be added. I am going to need help from other members of the community to complete this.
Please PM me regarding any additions/changes. If anyone wants to become a regular contributor I will happily give them editing rights as well.
I am aware that there is a similar list here. Originally I started adding to that list but sadly I lost interest when some of my entries were deleted. As the OP didn't respond to comments about limiting editing rights I thought I would start fresh.
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post already exists buddy and has been made into a sticky
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1634624
Ill copy your list into the sticky spreadsheet - thanks for your efforts

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winwiz said:
post already exists buddy and has been made into a sticky
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1634624
Ill copy your list into the sticky spreadsheet - thanks for your efforts
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Did you read the first post?
1234568 said:
I am aware that there is a similar list here. Originally I started adding to that list but sadly I lost interest when some of my entries were deleted. As the OP didn't respond to comments about limiting editing rights I thought I would start fresh.
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As I clearly explained, I realise a thread already exists. I created a new thread as you didn't respond to users concerns about its open nature. I didn't want to put time into a project just to see it accidentally deleted. Instead it was copied without me even being given credit in your first post. Sigh. At least the community can benefit from it, one way or another.

Pls delete

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Did you read the first post?
As I clearly explained, I realise a thread already exists. I created a new thread as you didn't respond to users concerns about its open nature. I didn't want to put time into a project just to see it accidentally deleted. Instead it was copied without me even being given credit in your first post. Sigh. At least the community can benefit from it, one way or another.
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buddy i have given you credit in CELL A1 in the spreadsheet. your name is the first thing people see when they open the spreadsheet. I have also added your name to the post.
with regards to editing rights, I have made it uneditable. If you give me your google details, i'll make you an admin on the spreadsheet. thanks buddy

As I said... a reference in your first post to where you got all the information (i.e. here) would be the decent thing to do.
I'm going to continue updating my spreadsheet for personal use. I just don't trust using one that can be edited by anyone. That's nothing personal to you, its the accidental errors by others that I don't trust. Seeing as that's the case I may as well leave a link to it here on XDA.
Edit: I know this post makes no sense now. This is because winwiz edited the previous post, rather than writing another. Sorry for his noobish ways.

[Q] Getting the most out of Rooting the SM-N910V? Please contribute!

I'm kinda new at this. I know about being able to use backups with TWRP and I know about MW Apps Manager but that's about it. Please make suggestions of how I can improve the experience of using the Note 4.

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I'm kinda new at this. I know about being able to use backups with TWRP and I know about MW Apps Manager but that's about it. Please make suggestions of how I can improve the experience of using the Note 4.
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I'm going to assume that you have already installed the TWRP custom recovery. You probably already know that you have to do that before you can obtain root. Aside from being able to flash custom ROMs, none available right now, there are a number of apps that you can install that do a number of things that you cannot do without root. I'll list a few that I use and what they do but the list is not all encompassing:
--Titanium Backup (root)--a great tool for freezing unwanted apps, backing up apps/data etc
--Greenify--enables you to set user installed apps to "hibernate" a few minutes after you have finished using them. Significantly improves battery life.
--LagFix--an app, when run, that can eliminate "lag" when/if it occurs on the phone most of the time.
--SD Maid--a great file manager app that enables you to control which apps start at power on, enables the user to really clean out cache, duplicate files, orphaned files and compact databases. Saves memory resources and keeps your phone running smooth and clean.
--adaway--as the name implies, keeps those pesky little ads from showing up in apps.
--exposed--a favorite of many users. Enables you to customize a number of settings, notifications etc.
That's the apps I use that can only be run with root. I'm sure some other users will chime in here an provide some other things that root offers.

Thanks , I got root last night
First are there things I should enable or disable to protect root. Is it OK to run the My Verizon app and VZ Protect. Are there any applications that I should not run?

doctor-cool said:
First are there things I should enable or disable to protect root. Is it OK to run the My Verizon app and VZ Protect. Are there any applications that I should not run?
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You can run anything you want, it's not going to hurt root. Root is really only a door, or access, to settings/system files that you wouldn't normally have. Any app that you can run without root can be run safely with root. The opposite is not true. There are a number of apps that cannot be run without root. A good way to find most of the apps that require root is to go to the Play Store and just search for "root apps". There's a bunch out there that you may want to try.
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doctor-cool said:
First are there things I should enable or disable to protect root. Is it OK to run the My Verizon app and VZ Protect. Are there any applications that I should not run?
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The only thing you have to be aware of to protect root is taking an OTA update. Now that you have a custom recovery and root the likely hood that you would be able to find and download an OTA is not likely, but if by chance you receive a notice that an OTA is available do not download and install it. If by chance the phone automatically downloads it and tries to install it, the OTA should fail so you'll be alright.
Be careful not to flash or ODIN a retail firmware. That is probably the biggest warning I can offer. Retail firmware, when flashed, will lock your bootloader. You can flash a modem or a kernel or a recovery, but not the entire firmware .tar md5 file.
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doctor-cool said:
First are there things I should enable or disable to protect root. Is it OK to run the My Verizon app and VZ Protect. Are there any applications that I should not run?
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By the way. Since you are new to root and custom recoveries, the first thing you should do, right now, is do a backup. Power off your phone, go into TWRP recovery (hold down the volume up, home and power buttom all at the same time). Continue to hold them down until you see the TWRP splash screen, then you can let them go. From the on screen menu select backup. Choose which file you want backed up. I recommend you do boot, system, data, modem, EFS and recovery as a minimum. After the backup is complete return to the main menu and select reboot. Do it right now

wifi hotspot
I have already paid for FoxFi and it works great even without root.
But now, how do I get the free wifi hotspot with root What are the advantages of using it?

doctor-cool said:
I have already paid for FoxFi and it works great even without root.
But now, how do I get the free wifi hotspot with root What are the advantages of using it?
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I'm not sure, I don't use it. But, if I remember correctly I think you go into settings>more networks>and turn on mobile hotspot. But again, I don't use it so I'm not sure. Have you done your backup yet? It is the only safety net you will have until a developer releases a ROM we can flash. Don't look for Samsung to release any firmware for the Developer Edition...it ain't going to happen. Your backup and TWRP are the ONLY safety net you have right now. I can't emphasize that enough.

jpcalhoun said:
I'm not sure, I don't use it. But, if I remember correctly I think you go into settings>more networks>and turn on mobile hotspot. But again, I don't use it so I'm not sure. Have you done your backup yet? It is the only safety net you will have until a developer releases a ROM we can flash. Don't look for Samsung to release any firmware for the Developer Edition...it ain't going to happen. Your backup and TWRP are the ONLY safety net you have right now. I can't emphasize that enough.
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Thanks ,Yes I did the backups last night before and after root default and complete. I even tested Restoring a backup before I rooted. I hope I got it

doctor-cool said:
Thanks ,Yes I did the backups last night before and after root default and complete. I even tested Restoring a backup before I rooted. I hope I got it
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Outstanding. Didn't want to "harp" on the backup thing, but I've seen so many users root, TWRP and then do something to brick their phone and they didn't have a backup. They were screwed.

Automatic Back Up?
jpcalhoun said:
Outstanding. Didn't want to "harp" on the backup thing, but I've seen so many users root, TWRP and then do something to brick their phone and they didn't have a backup. They were screwed.
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We should probably do a backup on a schedule. Someone could make an app that does a back up automatically on a schedule. I'm going to put Back Up Note 4 on my calender then back it up

doctor-cool said:
We should probably do a backup on a schedule. Someone could make an app that does a back up automatically on a schedule. I'm going to put Back Up Note 4 on my calender then back it up
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It's diffidently a good idea to have a recent backup and the original backup of your stock ROM. The only problem with a lot of backups is keeping straight what backup is what and the amount of space they consume. Memory is cheap I know, but backups can eat up storage real fast, LOL.

Yes. Agree with space but every backup I do, I also have my TWRP folder sync'd to my Dropbox account. So what ever changes are made go their. I also save them on the laptop as well as a thumb drive. Been burned once on my note 3. Now, is there the stock md5 file for the developers edition like on the note 3's?
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GreenGoblin227 said:
Yes. Agree with space but every backup I do, I also have my TWRP folder sync'd to my Dropbox account. So what ever changes are made go their. I also save them on the laptop as well as a thumb drive. Been burned once on my note 3. Now, is there the stock md5 file for the developers edition like on the note 3's?
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No there is not a stock md5 for the DE and there most likely will not be. In the past Samsung has never released a firmware package for their DE phones, not that I have ever seen anyway. What your phone came with is what you got. NO OTAs and no updates of any kind in the future...that's if Samsung behaves like they have in the past. That's why making a good back up of your stock (no root) when you first get recovery is so important. And, making a backup after root of course.

Do you mind me asking how you sync..............
GreenGoblin227 said:
Yes. Agree with space but every backup I do, I also have my TWRP folder sync'd to my Dropbox account. So what ever changes are made go their. I also save them on the laptop as well as a thumb drive. Been burned once on my note 3. Now, is there the stock md5 file for the developers edition like on the note 3's?
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your TWRP folder to your Dropbox account.. Did you transfer the folder to your computer first or can you sync the folder on your phone to DropBox directly ?

I use dropsync select the folder and it just does it automatically.
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jpcalhoun said:
I'm going to assume that you have already installed the TWRP custom recovery. You probably already know that you have to do that before you can obtain root. Aside from being able to flash custom ROMs, none available right now, there are a number of apps that you can install that do a number of things that you cannot do without root. I'll list a few that I use and what they do but the list is not all encompassing:
--Titanium Backup (root)--a great tool for freezing unwanted apps, backing up apps/data etc
--Greenify--enables you to set user installed apps to "hibernate" a few minutes after you have finished using them. Significantly improves battery life.
--LagFix--an app, when run, that can eliminate "lag" when/if it occurs on the phone most of the time.
--SD Maid--a great file manager app that enables you to control which apps start at power on, enables the user to really clean out cache, duplicate files, orphaned files and compact databases. Saves memory resources and keeps your phone running smooth and clean.
--adaway--as the name implies, keeps those pesky little ads from showing up in apps.
--exposed--a favorite of many users. Enables you to customize a number of settings, notifications etc.
That's the apps I use that can only be run with root. I'm sure some other users will chime in here an provide some other things that root offers.
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I'm assuming that the Greenify is the one with the leaf?
Is LagFix the purchase version? Is it an app by itself, or does it require exposed?
Do you use the SD Maid Pro Version?
Does the Adaway require exposed as well?
Thanks so much in advance.

Debloater, Lets remove all that Bloatware..

Just getting the word out to everyone. This works without root and makes it super easy for you to remove any Bloatware you would like and fully control it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294

Thank you Sir! :highfive:

PRoot.com said:
Thank you Sir! :highfive:
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Your welcome.

Already discussed in a previous thread. It only allows blocking the Apps. Absolute removal of Apps require Root.

ZPaul2Fresh8 said:
Already discussed in a previous thread. It only allows blocking the Apps. Absolute removal of Apps require Root.
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That's a big deal to a lot of people though. For a lot of people who do not have root and are on KitKat, they can completely block packages on their phone that they otherwise could not. Sure, they allow you to block / disable certain ones on the phone itself, but not anything. This allows them to block any package, Knox included. And sure they could download a script, modify it for their purposes and create another script to unblock and so on and so on. But this maintains nothing and interacts with their device directly. Nothing to maintain and nothing to edit, etc. etc..

Anybody got a list of app that's safe to block. Don't want to cause an endless boot.

here's my complete script I have handy, after testing things and trying a few things without success, my phone many times would automatically erase all data and do a factory reset in the end of my failed experiments. Either that or I'd have to resort to that Odin package someone posted on here to flash back to stock. I think I've flashed my phone using that Odin package around 12 times now after downgrading from the forced updated NK3 back to original. I immediately run this script after enabling Developer options and enabling USB Debugging.
Just right click on the script and Run As Administrator on Vista,Win 7, Win 8 and Win 10.
**Make sure to have the 3 required Adb files to run Adb to communicate with device. I attached those 3 main files which you can extract to c:\windows\system32. This way you can run adb commands from any location on the computer since System32 is included in the environment variables for the OS

saunupe1911 said:
Anybody got a list of app that's safe to block. Don't want to cause an endless boot.
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Jump on the forum thread, I have built in export and import of blocked packages support built in, someone will give you a list.

I Thank you Sir ... that is a nice, clean app that's works well, but I do have one suggestion for an improvement if you are open to it.
I like the fact that it has a filter function, but the filter only works on the name in the apk name, not the package name. It would be really sweet if it would search both areas. :good:

Dimarini said:
I Thank you Sir ... that is a nice, clean app that's works well, but I do have one suggestion for an improvement if you are open to it.
I like the fact that it has a filter function, but the filter only works on the name in the apk name, not the package name. It would be really sweet if it would search both areas. :good:
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Great idea. Consider it done.

gatesjunior said:
Great idea. Consider it done.
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I used it and liked it, I agree with that idea and I'd also like to be able to not have to reload packages after I'm done with the filter, good all around program though.

thanitos said:
I used it and liked it, I agree with that idea and I'd also like to be able to not have to reload packages after I'm done with the filter, good all around program though.
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You can uncheck the filter and it will display the full list again and it will keep your changes you made during filter.

Please start adding comments and questions in the main Xda thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/andr...bloat-t2998294

gatesjunior said:
Please start adding comments and questions in the main Xda thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/andr...bloat-t2998294
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Seems the link you provided is broken (possibly just me, not sure)

JScorpio said:
Seems the link you provided is broken (possibly just me, not sure)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2998294

where have you been my whole life...

Version 3.4 with the enhanced search and the import/export options works awesome. Very nice!

Dimarini said:
Version 3.4 with the enhanced search and the import/export options works awesome. Very nice!
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3.5 just released

Version 3.7 is out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294

broken 4 lollipop 5.01
not working, error dialog attached.
I figured if SD was writable and debloater cleared out the junk I could live without root with the update. I know I can disable some of the apps from the launcher, but there are / were some under 4.4.4 that only debloater could take care of for me. Unable to do that under 5.01.

Very unusual "system data" storage behaviour!

I have a completely stock phone & I was using nova launcher from day one but I turned back to the default launcher today and noticed a strange data in the 'shelf'. It was showing that I have low %age of storage left. At first I thought it must be a bug but then after some time I checked the storage in settings and thereafter confirmed this using the app "DiskUsage".
Could anyone help me out here? Kindly have a look at the screenshot I'm attaching.
In short, System data is using 27.3 GB of storage!!!
I suspect it may be due to the flash that I did some time back when I returned to complete stock from a rooted OnePlus 3. Though I followed the official website instructions.
Thanks guys for reading this message & I know someone out there will know about this as I'm not that lucky to encounter a completely unique bug :good:

GravityDead said:
I have a completely stock phone & I was using nova launcher from day one but I turned back to the default launcher today and noticed a strange data in the 'shelf'. It was showing that I have low %age of storage left. At first I thought it must be a bug but then after some time I checked the storage in settings and thereafter confirmed this using the app "DiskUsage".
Could anyone help me out here? Kindly have a look at the screenshot I'm attaching.
In short, System data is using 27.3 GB of storage!!!
I suspect it may be due to the flash that I did some time back when I returned to complete stock from a rooted OnePlus 3. Though I followed the official website instructions.
Thanks guys for reading this message & I know someone out there will know about this as I'm not that lucky to encounter a completely unique bug :good:
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Latest build should fix this.. If not do a clean install and stay on the latest build. Also if the issue persists try to move to EXT4. F2fs still has loads of weird issues..

Puddi_Puddin said:
Latest build should fix this.. If not do a clean install and stay on the latest build. Also if the issue persists try to move to EXT4. F2fs still has loads of weird issues..
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Well, I got my latest .5 update yesterday and sadly it didn't solve it so I guess I have to format my phone again. Man, that's really a pain in the A. By the way, is this a common occurrence in OnePlus 3 software?
As far as ext and f2fs is concerned, I don't remember manually formatting my phone to f2fs so I guess it was nougat update which did this!
Thanks man!

GravityDead said:
Well, I got my latest .5 update yesterday and sadly it didn't solve it so I guess I have to format my phone again. Man, that's really a pain in the A. By the way, is this a common occurrence in OnePlus 3 software?
As far as ext and f2fs is concerned, I don't remember manually formatting my phone to f2fs so I guess it was nougat update which did this!
Thanks man!
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Don't know... I haven't seen this issue yet..

hmm, I'll wait till the O update for a clean install as setting up few particular apps (mostly banking & two-factor authentication) is really a boring/huge task for me, plus few apps have just NO backup solution like the now-defunct but awesome keyboard Fleksy, Adguard user filters. I really think Android needs a good global backup function to sync basic things like android settings, SMS, Call logs.
Meanwhile, if anyone know a solution which doesn't include formatting the phone, please do tell me !

GravityDead said:
hmm, I'll wait till the O update for a clean install as setting up few particular apps (mostly banking & two-factor authentication) is really a boring/huge task for me, plus few apps have just NO backup solution like the now-defunct but awesome keyboard Fleksy, Adguard user filters. I really think Android needs a good global backup function to sync basic things like android settings, SMS, Call logs.
Meanwhile, if anyone know a solution which doesn't include formatting the phone, please do tell me !
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Mm.. How about the titanium backup feature of using update.zip? Have you tried it?

djrocks said:
Mm.. How about the titanium backup feature of using update.zip? Have you tried it?
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I dont really have a clue about titanium backup. Used it once way back when I had Galaxy Note 1.
I remember, it's UI was very complex and had a big learning curve but despite all this, isn't titanium backup a root only app?

GravityDead said:
I dont really have a clue about titanium backup. Used it once way back when I had Galaxy Note 1.
I remember, it's UI was very complex and had a big learning curve but despite all this, isn't titanium backup a root only app?
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Oh right. It is a root only app... Try using rom settings backup from play store, coupled with sms backup and restore.. Does most of the job

djrocks said:
Oh right. It is a root only app... Try using rom settings backup from play store, coupled with sms backup and restore.. Does most of the job
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Sorry to break it to you but even Rom Settings Backup is root only
but thank you for telling me about this app, may come in handy if I go back to root.
and yes, I did know about the SMS and call log backup, I'm more concerned about the few specific apps like Fleksy keyboard app.
Thank you for your reply.

[Debloat ]What are the Safe Apps/Packages to Remove?

Based on the title itself, what are the list of apps/packages that you guys removed (or can be removed) to debloat Mi A2 Lite?

Theres not that much bloatware in the device. And I think removing a system app will break OTA updates.

Uuuhhh. Welcome to my world. I don't like being tracked all the time by the countless sensors a modern smartphone has. Privacy is utterly important for me (and should be for everyone, but I'm not here to discuss this haha). Also, I hate making it easy to the multimillionaire companies profiting from selling and playing with your privacy. That's why I can't wait for the custom ROMs to start showing.
So, for now I disabled ALL google and all xiaomi apps. All of them except the "phone", "clock" and "carrier services" apps (the first 2 are too delicate for me and I didn't find a trustworthy alternative and I have no idea what the 3rd does, but seems important haha). Everything else, gone. Even "feedback", "PAI" and "Spock". And, of course, I don't have a google account linked to the device.
On the first boot, the phone connects to the internet and downloads a few other Google and Xiaomi apps. I prevented it to do so, so I wouldn't have to disable too many apps. I disabled google play services, play store and device setup (among the other ones) before connecting to internet.
Everything works fine in my phone (only one issue. Some apps rely on google services to show the map image. The image doesn't work while google services are disabled. But you can always enable it if you wanna use it).
Let me know if you have any question of any app/service/whatever you want to disable. I can share the alternative apps I use for the disable Google ones. I must say that most of them work even better.

adriakus said:
Uuuhhh. Welcome to my world. I don't like being tracked all the time by the countless sensors a modern smartphone has. Privacy is utterly important for me (and should be for everyone, but I'm not here to discuss this haha). Also, I hate making it easy to the multimillionaire companies profiting from selling and playing with your privacy. That's why I can't wait for the custom ROMs to start showing.
So, for now I disabled ALL google and all xiaomi apps. All of them except the "phone", "clock" and "carrier services" apps (the first 2 are too delicate for me and I didn't find a trustworthy alternative and I have no idea what the 3rd does, but seems important haha). Everything else, gone. Even "feedback", "PAI" and "Spock". And, of course, I don't have a google account linked to the device.
On the first boot, the phone connects to the internet and downloads a few other Google and Xiaomi apps. I prevented it to do so, so I wouldn't have to disable too many apps. I disabled google play services, play store and device setup (among the other ones) before connecting to internet.
Everything works fine in my phone (only one issue. Some apps rely on google services to show the map image. The image doesn't work while google services are disabled. But you can always enable it if you wanna use it).
Let me know if you have any question of any app/service/whatever you want to disable. I can share the alternative apps I use for the disable Google ones. I must say that most of them work even better.
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That's awesome. I wanted to know your alternatives to some of the system apps. I wanted to uninstall the default file manager of oreo but I can't find the package name from "debloater" magisk module. Also, what are the packages/apps that you uninstalled? Do you mind listing it here?

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is it true?
can anyone check it?
maybe magisk is not causing problems with OTA updates?

fake__knv said:
Theres not that much bloatware in the device. And I think removing a system app will break OTA updates.
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You can uninstall non wanted stuff with the help of ADB without the need of rooting your phone. It doesn't get uninstalled for real, but hidden for the main user profile. Those apps can't run but OTA isn't a problem.
Check it out:
https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
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@adriakus
You can remove carrier services if you removed Google Messages aswell.
"In a nutshell, the Carrier Services app is intended to allow your smart phone to take full advantage of a technology called Rich Communications Services, or RCS.
RCS allows for extra features in the Android Messaging app. The thing is most carriers have their own methods of supporting RCS in place so Google’s app is often redundant."

elvinguitar said:
That's awesome. I wanted to know your alternatives to some of the system apps. I wanted to uninstall the default file manager of oreo but I can't find the package name from "debloater" magisk module. Also, what are the packages/apps that you uninstalled? Do you mind listing it here?
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I've just created this post. I hope you find it useful
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a2-lite/how-to/guide-apps-services-safe-to-disable-t3849263
I'm still working on it. Check in tomorrow and it'll be finished.

adriakus said:
I've just created this post. I hope you find it useful
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a2-lite/how-to/guide-apps-services-safe-to-disable-t3849263
I'm still working on it. Check in tomorrow and it'll be finished.
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Awesome! Thanks for creating this thread. I'll definitely check it out.

krzygaj said:
is it true?
can anyone check it?
maybe magisk is not causing problems with OTA updates?
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I can confirm, touching ANYTHING on system partition (eg. hosts file) will cause OTA issues. Everything should be done systemlessly.

Majaque said:
I can confirm, touching ANYTHING on system partition (eg. hosts file) will cause OTA issues. Everything should be done systemlessly.
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Can Adaway cause problems with OTA updates?

krzygaj said:
Can Adaway cause problems with OTA updates?
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Yes, to prevent it you should turn on "Systemless host" option in Magisk Manager.

Majaque said:
I can confirm, touching ANYTHING on system partition (eg. hosts file) will cause OTA issues. Everything should be done systemlessly.
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Force-disabling a system app affects the system partition? Or it would only affect it if it's unisntalled?

adriakus said:
Force-disabling a system app affects the system partition? Or it would only affect it if it's unisntalled?
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Shouldn't be a problem. If you disable/freeze a system app with for example Titanium Backup and you restore the stock system partition via fastboot afterwards, the disabled app is still disabled. So the conclusion should be that those changes to the app aren't touching the system partition at all and are stored to the data partition instead.
Don't hit me if this isn't the case.

Hi everyone ,Before realize debloat system app like Google maps , youtube, etc will be a problem to apply new OTA , i uninstall some ones with "3C toolbox" making backup before , after that i restore the backups.
The question is , i am ok for apply future OTAs?.
Thanks.

Txatxiquesi said:
Hi everyone ,Before realize debloat system app like Google maps , youtube, etc will be a problem to apply new OTA , i uninstall some ones with "3C toolbox" making backup before , after that i restore the backups.
The question is , i am ok for apply future OTAs?.
Thanks.
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Probably restoring backups of uninstalled apps isn't enough to be OTA ready, better just disable/freeze system stuff. You won't get free space fo to use after uninstalling anyways.

thorin0815 said:
Probably restoring backups of uninstalled apps isn't enough to be OTA ready, better just disable/freeze system stuff. You won't get free space fo to use after uninstalling anyways.
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Ok, thanks , and now what i should do to be OTA ready?.

Txatxiquesi said:
Ok, thanks , and now what i should do to be OTA ready?.
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Reflash system_a and system_b partitions via fastboot.

thorin0815 said:
You can uninstall non wanted stuff with the help of ADB without the need of rooting your phone. It doesn't get uninstalled for real, but hidden for the main user profile. Those apps can't run but OTA isn't a problem.
Check it out:
https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
Edit:
@adriakus
You can remove carrier services if you removed Google Messages aswell.
"In a nutshell, the Carrier Services app is intended to allow your smart phone to take full advantage of a technology called Rich Communications Services, or RCS.
RCS allows for extra features in the Android Messaging app. The thing is most carriers have their own methods of supporting RCS in place so Google’s app is often redundant."
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Have you try to safely uninstall Feedback app? Really don't need it and i'd like to uninstall it without ota's issues

I've uninstalled the Feedback app and received the july's OTA without issues.
I've used this app: https://github.com/Saki-EU/XiaomiADBFastbootTools

Akbhar said:
I've uninstalled the Feedback app and received the july's OTA without issues.
I've used this app: https://github.com/Saki-EU/XiaomiADBFastbootTools
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Ty so much,i've had a quick look and it seems promising.Not so happy about Java,it's needed,but if you promise me you didn't have OTA issues i'll surely use it for my purposes.