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should i purchase the international or USA version of the note 7?

in terms of rooting which version should I purchase? I heard that the USA version has a locked bootloader which means it is not rootable correct? Is it impossible to unlock the bootloader unless Samsung does something or..? I would assume that since people are going so far as to refund their phones instead of waiting for an unlocker to be released if that is even possible.

I'm waiting to buy international version of phone with Xynos Chip and no AT&T bloatware. We will probably get better battery life and faster updates. We will lose HD and Wifi calling but no biggie IMHO.
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martinezma99 said:
I'm waiting to buy international version of phone with Xynos Chip and no AT&T bloatware. We will probably get better battery life and faster updates. We will lose HD and Wifi calling but no biggie IMHO.
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what do you mean we will lose HD?

Scathach said:
what do you mean we will lose HD?
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I think he means Voice over LTE (VoLTE)

also i dont mind waiting for the USA version to have an unlocked bootloader but the question i have is will it be possible? if not i might as well get the international version

Scathach said:
also i dont mind waiting for the USA version to have an unlocked bootloader but the question i have is will it be possible? if not i might as well get the international version
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Chance's of the USA version being Unlocked are slim to none... Even the Canadian version is locked down.

galaxys said:
Chance's of the USA version being Unlocked are slim to none... Even the Canadian version is locked down.
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i'm new to this whole thing so there might be things i dont understand but aren't there a lot of other phones that have locked bootloaders but was still able to be unlocked?

HNIC215 said:
I think he means Voice over LTE (VoLTE)
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Yes, HD Voice is Voice over LTE.
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martinezma99 said:
Yes, HD Voice is Voice over LTE.
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Having done development work in this field, I feel obligated to tell you that's not exactly true. Hd voice consists of two voice codecs - AMR Wideband, and AMR narrowband. These codecs do not explicitly require VoLTE to function. In fact, you can make "HD Voice" calls over 4G HSPA/HSPA+ using the narrowband version of the codec.
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Sounds good to me. Here's AT&T definition of HD voice.
https://www.att.com/esupport/article.html#!/wireless/KM1046244
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martinezma99 said:
Sounds good to me. Here's AT&T definition of HD voice.
https://www.att.com/esupport/article.html#!/wireless/KM1046244
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Yeah everyone dumbs down their definitions for the general public.
Basically, telephony in general has always had an 8khz spectrum width for audio. This was manly due to the fact it's small and low bandwidth. With the advent of 3.5g (hspa/hspa+ and lte) bandwidth is drastically increased. This allows for a doubled (16khz) spectrum width as there's plenty of bandwidth for it.
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martinezma99 said:
Yes, HD Voice is Voice over LTE.
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For AT&T and Verizon, correct. T-Mobile uses HD Voice over their 3G network, and you get better sounding calls when talking to another T-Mobile subscriber (I understand they will eventually bridge HD Voice to other carriers). VoLTE for T-Mobile (Advanced Calling for VZW) allows you to keep your LTE signal while on a call, as opposed to dropping down to 3G.

Scathach said:
also i dont mind waiting for the USA version to have an unlocked bootloader but the question i have is will it be possible? if not i might as well get the international version
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Good question. I heard a rumor that they did some sort of update and locked it?

I have the international variant and it does have VoLTE.
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BozQ said:
I have the international variant and it does have VoLTE.
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What carrier?

louforgiveno said:
What carrier?
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Singapore here. Singtel.

Would love to get international variant if it works with Tmobile.

I can purchase an international version on eBay, there is one currently for 789$ but there is only gold platinum available and the seller ships from NY.... i want to get this but unsure if it is a fake phone or something ><

The Phone may be region locked. Mine (South East Asia) came with a card that says, the Phone needs to be using SEA sim card for the first boot up.

Scathach said:
I can purchase an international version on eBay, there is one currently for 789$ but there is only gold platinum available and the seller ships from NY.... i want to get this but unsure if it is a fake phone or something ><
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I'm in the same boat, $789 seems lucrative, but no warranty so not sure should take that risk or not. I'm waiting for B&H to go on sale at least they provide their own 1 year warranty.

Release date of Note 7 for US unlocked?

Does anyone know when the unlocked variant of Note 7 N930U will be available? I am just not buying a carrier branded one because of a lot of reasons...

I'm keeping close watch on this as well as I want to get the rom from it and install it on my TMO purchased Note 7. It's a good way to debloat and to get updates outside of when TMO says yes or no to them. I can't wait.

What reasons? If it's because of root, AT&T and Sprint variants have root.

holywhitebread said:
What reasons? If it's because of root, AT&T and Sprint variants have root.
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I've had root on Android phones since the G1 but since the August patch to 6.0.1 it's just become to much of a pain in the ass to keep root and to have Android Pay. So the unlocked version of the rom doesn't come with a majority of Samsungs bloat ... it asks if you want to install the various apps during the first boot and you can say no. It doesn't come with the carrier bloat. These are the reasons. The only reason I've kept root on my Nexus 6P as long as I had was for greenify and with the Note 7 they've basically given that ability to the user without root. Folks have a lot of reasons to keep rooting ... I just don't. The OP might feel differently.

If you want the phone now, get the carrier Note 7 and then Odin flash the OS when Note 7 Unlocked is released.
For example, I bought the S7 Edge through AT&T but was able to Odin flash Unlocked software so phone is identical to unlocked version. I even got OTAs from Samsung directly. No root required and you can flash back to AT&T firmware and build if necessary.
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martinezma99 said:
If you want the phone now, get the carrier Note 7 and then Odin flash the OS when Note 7 Unlocked is released.
For example, I bought the S7 Edge through AT&T but was able to Odin flash Unlocked software so phone is identical to unlocked version. I even got OTAs from Samsung directly. No root required and you can flash back to AT&T firmware and build if necessary.
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But I don't want to root my phone;( I won't be able to use Samsung pay, Knox, secure folder...

I said "no root required". Samsung Pay and Knox work fine.
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martinezma99 said:
I said "no root required". Samsung Pay and Knox work fine.
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Oh wow I didn't know that would work!? Is it because they are exactly identical? I remember that was not possible in the past with Samsung devices...

Yes, identical phones only difference is build and firmware. On AT&T, you lose VoLTe and HD Calling. On T Mobile, you still get wifi calling and VoLTE.
I Odin flashed my AT&T S7 Edge with no issues. No it is unlocked version.
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martinezma99 said:
Yes, identical phones only difference is build and firmware. On AT&T, you lose VoLTe and HD Calling. On T Mobile, you still get wifi calling and VoLTE.
I Odin flashed my AT&T S7 Edge with no issues. No it is unlocked version.
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This is great to know. thanks! Just a bit confusion, by "No it is unlocked version" do you mean that AT&T locked S7 edge converted to sim unlocked phone? Can use different carrier sim by flashing ROM of unlocked version?

krups said:
This is great to know. thanks! Just a bit confusion, by "No it is unlocked version" do you mean that AT&T locked S7 edge converted to sim unlocked phone? Can use different carrier sim by flashing ROM of unlocked version?
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Yes, S7 Edge converted to Sim unlocked US version with no carrier bloatware. Phone can be used with any US carrier. Basically, turning a AT&T S7 Edge into a non carrier phone.
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martinezma99 said:
Yes, S7 Edge converted to Sim unlocked US version with no carrier bloatware. Phone can be used with any US carrier. Basically, turning a AT&T S7 Edge into a non carrier phone.
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Wow, I didn't know that. I was planning to sim-unlock TMobile locked Note 7 via some third party online service, but I guess I will now wait for the official ROM for SM-N930U and flash to SM-N930T. Thanks!
Update: Apparently this is not true. Some research helped me to understand that flashing ROM does not sim-unlock your device.

The Big IF being if Samsung releases a US unlocked version like they did with S7 and S7 Edge.
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Convert T-Mobile variant into international?

does anyone know if it is possible to convert a T-Mobile variant to an international one? or Verizon or any firmware out there?

Please tell me how you are thinking that this would even be remotely possible?
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bkeaver said:
Please tell me how you are thinking that this would even be remotely possible?
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By flashing the factory image for the US unlocked version? That's what we did with the S7.

Not possible. We have different chipsets. Best option would be Canadian unbranded firmware or wait a week or two for the unlocked US firmware
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If you mean exynos then you're SOL. Might be able to flash the US unlocked firmware but that's usually so far behind... I'd have to ask why?

Rydah805 said:
Not possible. We have different chipsets. Best option would be Canadian unbranded firmware or wait a week or two for the unlocked US firmware
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Sorry, I meant the US unlocked version. That's what we did with the S7.

"Network Unlock" App Installed with Android 10 Update

Hi All:
After I updated to Android 10, I noticed an icon for Network Unlock in my app drawer, but it went away soon after the apps were "optimized." It still shows up in my apps settings under "all", but I cannot access it.
I have a AT&T branded N975U running BSL7. Anyone have any idea what this app is or how to access it?
Thanks in advance!

On my T-mobile version it is under network settings under more connection settings
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jmrubel77 said:
Hi All:
After I updated to Android 10, I noticed an icon for Network Unlock in my app drawer, but it went away soon after the apps were "optimized." It still shows up in my apps settings under "all", but I cannot access it.
I have a AT&T branded N975U running BSL7. Anyone have any idea what this app is or how to access it?
Thanks in advance!
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its on all devices.. its samsung ssu app or samsung sim unlock app.. its not really available to just launch

elliwigy said:
its on all devices.. its samsung ssu app or samsung sim unlock app.. its not really available to just launch
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Any idea what it's for?

elliwigy said:
its on all devices.. its samsung ssu app or samsung sim unlock app.. its not really available to just launch
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I don't see it anywhere on my unbranded, factory unlocked N10+. Android 10 installed:

VICosPhi said:
On my T-mobile version it is under network settings under more connection settings
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Same here. It let me permanently unlock my phone.

Did you have it for longer than 40 days? It says my device is ineligible to be unlocked. I paid it off already but only had it a few weeks.
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rcobourn said:
Same here. It let me permanently unlock my phone.
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That makes a sense, no need for that if am factory unlocked.

VICosPhi said:
Did you have it for longer than 40 days? It says my device is ineligible to be unlocked. I paid it off already but only had it a few weeks.
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I've had it since prerelease, but it's financed, so I'm a bit surprised.

Interesting. Maybe it must cares about being in use for 40+ days on postpaid T-mobile account
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VICosPhi said:
Interesting. Maybe it must cares about being in use for 40+ days on postpaid T-mobile account
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Maybe. I've had my account for 20 years, so maybe they figure I'm not going to fly the coop.

jmrubel77 said:
Any idea what it's for?
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lol for sim unlocking.. just as the name suggests.. theres reference to it in some init files.. theres also some properties that reference it such as ssu.status and ssu.support.. i think theres only 3 carriers that use it from what I saw with TMB and VZW being two of them
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mzsquared said:
I don't see it anywhere on my unbranded, factory unlocked N10+. Android 10 installed:
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lol.. why wpuld it be on a device that comes unlocked from samsung? if its purpose has to do with sim unlocking then i dont see why it would ever be on a factory unlocked variant lol
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rcobourn said:
Same here. It let me permanently unlock my phone.
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tmo has the option in settings.. it uses the unlock app.. before tmb used to have their own app but newer devices its integrated..
it will let u unlock given your device is eligible.. vzw devices however dont have the option since according to vzw after so many days it will be automatically unlocked so no need to include it in settings like tmb does
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VICosPhi said:
Did you have it for longer than 40 days? It says my device is ineligible to be unlocked. I paid it off already but only had it a few weeks.
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im sure theres a time requirement.. most carriers have them.. i would check online for tmb device unlock policies if u want specifics.. every carrier has their unlock policies online.. its the best way to fibd out since most the time ppl on the internet will just tell u wat they believe it is and even reps half the time make stuff up to get you off the phone n dont actually look up the policies.. this is coming from a quality rep for a major carrier lol
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Thanks, yeah I checked in their site and it says device must be fully paid off and active for 40 days for it to be eligible for network unlock.
Also they only let you unlock 2 phones in a year or line of service. What I find interesting is someone was able to unlock One plus 7 pro McLaren within a week of buying it.... Such inconsistencies and mysteries we may never know the answer for[emoji3]
Were you a ROM developer in the past? I recall your username from some guide posted on XDA or ROM for older galaxy phone [emoji846]
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elliwigy said:
lol.. why wpuld it be on a device that comes unlocked from samsung? if its purpose has to do with sim unlocking then i dont see why it would ever be on a factory unlocked variant lol
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I've realized that by myself, see post #8. The app is on my phone anyways(172 KB)

mzsquared said:
I've realized that by myself, see post #8. The app is on my phone anyways(172 KB)
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yes but it doesnt do anything which i also why you dont have the option to unlock

[CTE7] UPDATE released. Screenshot

I am on SprintView attachment 5045787
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hayabusa1300cc said:
I am on SprintView attachment 5045787
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T-mobile... got it this morning as well
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For snapdragon unlocked note 10 plus.

Have you noticed any improvement in the camera department? I've noticed a faster fingerprint recognition and unlock.
I haven't really checked the camera

babbar559 said:
For snapdragon unlocked note 10 plus.
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Who's your carrier? I have the unlocked 10+ and nothing yet
I'm on Verizon

Stevieboy02008 said:
Who's your carrier? I have the unlocked 10+ and nothing yet
I'm on Verizon
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I Don't think carriers do anything for updates on unlocked phones.

babbar559 said:
I Don't think carriers do anything for updates on unlocked phones.
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They actually do. That's why I asked because it depends on the update and the carrier it maybe a day or two later

babbar559 said:
I Don't think carriers do anything for updates on unlocked phones.
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I just got this on my Verizon Note 10+